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Vermont => Ice Fishing Vermont => Topic started by: vtbuckrulrss on Dec 24, 2012, 10:42 AM
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Whatever happened to cutting holes and dropping a line/ tip up in, giving it a bit, then moving if you haven't a bite? I know this is similar to deer hunting with trail cams, but really, hasn't it turned fishing into a video game? I don't have any electronics, not sure if I ever want to. What is more important, fishing for the sake of fishing, or HAVING to catch a fish to make you feel good about your time spent on the ice? As long as I am out there, I am happy, catching something is just a bonus.
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i dont, seems like a waste of 500 bucks, or however much they are. id rather spend that kinda money on like a striker ice float suit.
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Choice is yours, I wont go without mine. Then again I like to go out and catch not just fish.
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Or on a nice shanty! Portable or hardsided, that would buy something decent.
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Choice is yours, I wont go without mine. Then again I like to go out and catch not just fish.
I guess I liken it to some types of hunting.. once you have successfully fished an area, you know that a good percent of the time the fish will either be there, or they won't. If they won't, then I don't go back. With that in mind, what would be the reason to buy the electronics? Call me old fashion, I guess.
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Does everyone fish with electronics? Nope, only the smart ones! Haha I'm kidding, but in all seriousness, you don't have to spend 500 to get a tool that will gaurentee you find fish. You can spend $200 for one that will help you more than anything you've ever bought. Having a flasher makes ice fishing much more exciting and as long as your willing to be mobile it will gaurentee you don't get skunked.
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I just started using a vex last year and I catch many more fish with it. I have always had fun ice fishing,now I just have more fun catching more, reading and watching fish react to my jig. I won't speak to all the pros of using a vex but I certainly won't fish without it. To each his or her own.
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I have a sounder and a camera, I don't always pull them out and use. I almost always use a sounder on new waters. It is a great tool and time saver, but I catch plenty of fish with out it...
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I guess I liken it to some types of hunting.. once you have successfully fished an area, you know that a good percent of the time the fish will either be there, or they won't. If they won't, then I don't go back. With that in mind, what would be the reason to buy the electronics? Call me old fashion, I guess.
Electronics will tell you if there are fish below you in an instant,that way you can stay or leave an area without having to unknowingly wait while jigging. Drill an area out and walk around checking each hole,then jig the one with fish.
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ok, so it's a matter of convenience for some. Would/could you ever fish without having them by your side? It just seems like it would take away from the experience a bit. When fishing becomes like more of a job than fun, it's time to hang up the jig stick.
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I guess I liken it to some types of hunting.. once you have successfully fished an area, you know that a good percent of the time the fish will either be there, or they won't. If they won't, then I don't go back. With that in mind, what would be the reason to buy the electronics? Call me old fashion, I guess.
I'm sure it depends on the lakes that you fish, to put it in a little more perspective. The lakes I mainly fish have little structure and the fish do not seem to relate to what little there is in the ice season, these lakes are big mud bowls of a relatively similar depth within a few feet in the main basin(137,700 acres 30 miles by 10 miles). Without electronics and drilling sometimes over a hundred holes per outing you would be lucky if you ever caught a fish the whole season. The fish schools roam the vast open water following bait, you can catch them here one day and may find a school a half mile or 2 miles away the next day. We try to have a group of 3 or 4 of us spread out with 50 yards between us and we keep drilling and checking for fish with our electronics until we find some.
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I fished over thirty years without electronics. I can assure you that you won't find me on the ice without at least my Vexilar ever again.
:tipup:
NBG
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I prefer to use one when fishing for perch and eyes , but to each their own
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i wouldn't go out there with out my vex i fish allot for money and to catch fish. yes it great being out there and having fun but there nothing like pulling fish in one after another not only that it take out the guessing game were they are. as for hunting take a track and go until you get him
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Vex for me.
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The only way i'd be fishing without my electronics is if i'd never used one before. After watching a guy using one, and him allowing me to WATCH him using it, i'll never intentionally go out again without mine. Truth be told, you dont know what you're missing until you try one.
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Just tracked my order through UPS and my new Lowrance Elite 4x should be on my doorstep in a few hours!
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I don't find them very useful in real shallow water (<5') but in deep water looking for suspended fish they're a must. So nice to watch your jig/bait and stop it at the right depth.
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I use my vex pretty much every day unless I'm sight fishing!
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Already have a shanty, Arctic armor, and everything else I want, so now I have a brand new lx-7 under the tree, Just waiting on some safe ice to try it out on!!!!
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Some people JUST MAY ENJOY fishing with electronics.. I know I do.
Maybe, just maybe, every person's vision of what they want to get out of ice fishing is different? We don't question why people fish without flashers.. So why question why some people prefer fishing with one?
"Don't knock it 'till you try it."- Anonymous
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I dont use them at this time just because i dont jig much.I go for walleyes all the time and have for 47 years this year but,i will purchase a underwater camera just so i can see if theres any around.I do jig when i have jacks set up and i won't tell you that i will never buy a vexillar because i'd probably be telling a lie.When you get older it seems like the right thing to do.I will be doing more jigging too this year after i learn a few tricks from fish hounds.
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3yrs ago a few old guys were on this pond when we showed up. I grabbed the power auger and started punching a grid of holes. My son, 8 at the time starts going through checking holes stopping and fishing the ones with active fish and throwing keepers on the ice. In a half hour he had probably caught 30 fish. Between the three of them I saw them ice ONE. Mind you we aren't but 20' from them as this is the local spot. They picked up and left.
2yrs ago I went to a lake and was the only sole there. then this kid about 13 or 14 shows up on a bicycle with a rod in his back pack. He had no auger or spud. H e walks around looking for holes he can open with the heal of his boot. He saw me using my Marcum hole hopping and catching fish so he came over and we talked fishing and I showed him how electronics are used and iced a few gills while he watched.
He seemed like a good kid and was very respectful. I walked up to the truck and got my spare flasher and let him use it for the afternoon. His day probably went from a few fish day to hole hopping fun and catching fish day.
Enjoyment of icefishing is different for everyone. I enjoy my icefishing days well into summer with fish frys.
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After you use one you will find it is just as important as your auger. When I started many moons ago, 70's. we didn't have them and we caught plenty of fish, but when we jumped on to the band wagon it was so cool to watch your jig go down to the spot as the fish came up and then concentrate on the jiggy bob just tip over slightly and Bang a fish one you may never have know was there. Or drop your flasher lure down the hole and jig it a few times and see the perch come in from surounding areas and then sit there till you hit the perfect wiggle to draw them into the jig. They really allow you to catch those fish you never would have known were there or the ones that may have been a bit shy. Not for everyone I guess, but I like to have enough fish on the ice at the end of the day for the hot oil and the fish tacos to follow.
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I,m no techie believe me! Put off electronics quite a while. Now with vexilar i know what i leave with the hole. Hoppin you can pic on active fish and leave reluctant ones. At least i know if they are there or passing through and can change presentations when active fish decline.
I find it useful,similar to soft water,it can take more than just finding them! If nothing else it helps where to fish. Sometimes that alone is worth it.
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to not use one is insane...its like not using scent control while deer hunting.
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To each their own, but you won't often catch me out without mine!
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VEX :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :icefish:
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I hate to even admit this, but if my battery goes dead or flasher stops working I pack up and leave. I usually carry a spare in my truck now so I only have to travel back to shore but unless I can sight fish I wont fish without a flasher or camera. Just the way it is for me, I don't expect or want everyone to be like me, this is totally a personal choice for everyone. I love to be out fishing but I love it better if i am catching fish. I rarely keep fish for myself anymore, if somebody is along that wants them they can have them, otherwise back down the hole they go.
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I'm always fishing new lakes and always exploring new areas in lakes I've fished regularly. I couldn't do it with out my flashers, I won't fish with it out them.
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I don't have one... I'd like one, but have to gather the funds first...
I have no doubt that I'd still do a lot of perching with wooden sticks and big sinkers, but I would like to have one for panfishing and jigging walleyes.
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I hate to even admit this, but if my battery goes dead or flasher stops working I pack up and leave. I usually carry a spare in my truck now so I only have to travel back to shore but unless I can sight fish I wont fish without a flasher or camera. Just the way it is for me, I don't expect or want everyone to be like me, this is totally a personal choice for everyone. I love to be out fishing but I love it better if i am catching fish. I rarely keep fish for myself anymore, if somebody is along that wants them they can have them, otherwise back down the hole they go.
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i always have an extra battery in the truck now. once you fish with one..you never want to fish "blind" again.
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i want one as well a marcum showdown 5.6 ........
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i don't own one, but i want one. the only thing i have to say about them is don't complain about the smaller lakes and ponds being over fished in the next few years when everybody has one
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to not use one is insane...its like not using scent control while deer hunting.
You have to be a young guy, lol. A whole lot of deer were shot long before scent control, and a heck of a lot of fish have been caught through the ice pre-electronics.
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You have to be a young guy, lol. A whole lot of deer were shot long before scent control, and a heck of a lot of fish have been caught through the ice pre-electronics.
But I'm willing to bet a whole heck of a lot more have been shot with scent killer, and I can't fathom how many more fish have been caught with the help of electronics.
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You have to be a young guy, lol. A whole lot of deer were shot long before scent control, and a heck of a lot of fish have been caught through the ice pre-electronics.
How many deer did you get this yr and when was the last time you caught anything decent on the ice Pat ?
;)
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Just the one deer that I had time for, and the last time I iced anything nice was before the kids were born. That's been a full time job since their mom died seven years ago at the ages of 3 and 5.
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You have to be a young guy, lol. A whole lot of deer were shot long before scent control, and a heck of a lot of fish have been caught through the ice pre-electronics.
I really hope your not trying to call me out on deer hunting...but to think scent control doesnt make you a more successful hunter...well...proof is in the pudding. or should i say my wall? i will be confident on this one ( not cocky) id consider having 7 racked bucks on the wall, 32 deer total at age of 24 says something for scent control and dedication. but what do i know?
I can post pictures all day... A flasher is just as crucial as scent control....
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I can post pictures all day... A flasher is just as crucial as scent control in my eyes....i guess scent control doesnt work either!?!? ???
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But I'm willing to bet a whole heck of a lot more have been shot with scent killer, and I can't fathom how many more fish have been caught with the help of electronics.
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Sounds like someone is jealous they dont have electronics...
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Screw you guys! I'm going to start using a flasher for bow hunting and scent killer when I'm chasing perch! ;D
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Sounds like someone is jealous they dont have electronics...
Nope, absolutely not. I have fished with a buddy who had electronics. Didn't interest me.
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Nope, absolutely not. I have fished with a buddy who had electronics. Didn't interest me.
it doesnt interest you to catch more fish? lets meet up for a day, you can use my unit...when you catch more fish, I WILL make you a believer...literally it ten-folds your catch. I just dont get how you cannot want to catch more fish!?
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Not quite, but almost everybody ;D, to me electronics keeps me more mobile I know right away how deep the water is , and if anything is down there. Electronics will not make the fish bite but you will know if they are there!
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lmfao wheres camo ninjas comments now lol lmfaooo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I really hope your not trying to call me out on deer hunting...but to think scent control doesnt make you a more successful hunter...well...proof is in the pudding. or should i say my wall? i will be confident on this one ( not cocky) id consider having 7 racked bucks on the wall, 32 deer total at age of 24 says something for scent control and dedication. but what do i know?
I can post pictures all day... A flasher is just as crucial as scent control....
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/hmoncrief06/Editedbuck.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/hmoncrief06/2_2012090295165629.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/hmoncrief06/73155_507824868931_120000546_30242155_1510056_n.jpg),
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/hmoncrief06/DSC03645.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/hmoncrief06/hunting09003.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/hmoncrief06/buckarroo.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/hmoncrief06/doe08.jpg)
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w75/hmoncrief06/expanded.jpg)
I can post pictures all day... A flasher is just as crucial as scent control in my eyes....i guess scent control doesnt work either!?!? ???
bahahahahaa i bet he ate his words after that and nice deer by the way
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Thanks buddy!...i work hard for them..and i get quite lucky ;D
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I have electronics and would use if I could figure the dam thing out. I do feel the fish camera is kind of a pain to lug around. The hummingbird 45 is a nice looking thing but makes no sense to me. Of course I shoud spend more time with it trying to figure it out than shouting at it and threating to push it down the hole
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congrats on the animals. don't turn this into the pissing contest that it isn't. I own the same set of clothes as what you have on, yet still hunt into the wind, whether I have those clothes on or not. you guys are twisting things around. all I am saying is that doing it old school works fine too. the electronics just aren't for me and was curious as to have prevalent their use was.
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I got a flasher middle of last season. Took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to use it and the rest is history. I won't go on the ice without it now. Do I think I catch more fish? Probably. Do I catch 10 times more? No. I don't use it because it's a magic way to catch thousands of fish. I use it because it's fun. It adds another dimension to fishing that you wouldn't understand until you use one for a few hours.
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congrats on the animals. don't turn this into the pissing contest that it isn't. I own the same set of clothes as what you have on, yet still hunt into the wind, whether I have those clothes on or not. you guys are twisting things around. all I am saying is that doing it old school works fine too. the electronics just aren't for me and was curious as to have prevalent their use was.
No, you started the pissing match by claiming flashers take away from the experience of ice fishing. You then proceeded to say that ice fishing is more of a job with a flasher.. ::)
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Plenty of people fish without electronics, but most of them aren't cruising the web on fishing forums.
FYI, the guy with the smallest nozzle usually wins the peeing contest ;).
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:blink: :sick: OK! OK! Back to the original question. I've ice fished 3 states for decades and during the last few years it seems as if about 20% of those on the ice were using electronics. When I am tipups fishing I like to use one jigging while waiting for a flag. I'm sure that if I only fished tipups I wouldn't invest in a flasher. A good lake map would do fine. I don't need electronics to show me fish at locations that I have fished for many years but I love the idea of having a flasher when I'm on a brand new pond.
Now that I'm retired I can't afford any new gizmos so I hope my flasher outlives me. On the other hand I'm a deer hunter who loves to sit up against a sunny oak tree and watch the birds and squirrels. I'm not sure how much deer hunting and ice fishing have in common?
I am sure that a flasher is a super way to get the kids out of the house and on the ice. I'm afraid they all need some high tech gizmo to get them excited at the beginning.
Dick
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:blink: :sick: OK! OK! Back to the original question. I've ice fished 3 states for decades and during the last few years it seems as if about 20% of those on the ice were using electronics. When I am tipups fishing I like to use one jigging while waiting for a flag. I'm sure that if I only fished tipups I wouldn't invest in a flasher. A good lake map would do fine. I don't need electronics to show me fish at locations that I have fished for many years but I love the idea of having a flasher when I'm on a brand new pond.
Now that I'm retired I can't afford any new gizmos so I hope my flasher outlives me. On the other hand I'm a deer hunter who loves to sit up against a sunny oak tree and watch the birds and squirrels. I'm not sure how much deer hunting and ice fishing have in common?
I am sure that a flasher is a super way to get the kids out of the house and on the ice. I'm afraid they all need some high tech gizmo to get them excited at the beginning.
Dick
I guess we (people with flashers) don't see what's wrong with using one to interest a kid into ice fishing. As long as they're ice fishing, and not dealing drugs, boozing, and knocking up the neighbors daughter it's worth it.
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No, you started the pissing match by claiming flashers take away from the experience of ice fishing. You then proceeded to say that ice fishing is more of a job with a flasher.. ::)
Never said that it took away from anything. If you choose to use them, fine. I don't. The original question simply asked how many people do, because I am surprised reading others post's , and viewing their pics, just how many guys do.
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ok, so it's a matter of convenience for some. Would/could you ever fish without having them by your side? It just seems like it would take away from the experience a bit. When fishing becomes like more of a job than fun, it's time to hang up the jig stick.
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hmm, ok. still stand by my statement, they just aren't for me.
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i never used sent lock clothes always was taught to hunt the wind and was taught to track im old school on that but i still shoot 3-5 deer every year vt nh but they don't come easy i work for them and hunt every day of the season. them are some nice pic . some people say 10% of the hunters shoot 90% of the deer mabey were just blessed :) as for my vex would not go out with out it .as for fishing out the ponds they say a pike has to be 20 years old to reach 15 pounds i know every year 2 come out of carmi that big and bigger :)
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I use my camera when setting up tipups. It allows me to put my bait right where I want it in relationship to the structure I am fishing. Takes the guess work out of finding the tops/edges of weed beds, condition of weeds, lips of drop offs, rock piles, and other isolated structure. Gives me confidence that every tipup in the spread is being fished as productive as possible.
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hmm, ok. still stand by my statement, they just aren't for me.
I respect your opinion. However, I have more fun while using a flasher. I also have put WAY more fillets in the freezer than I ever would have without one.
It's nice to go out and catch a hundred fish a morning.
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:blink: :sick: OK! OK! Back to the original question. I've ice fished 3 states for decades and during the last few years it seems as if about 20% of those on the ice were using electronics. When I am tipups fishing I like to use one jigging while waiting for a flag. I'm sure that if I only fished tipups I wouldn't invest in a flasher. A good lake map would do fine. I don't need electronics to show me fish at locations that I have fished for many years but I love the idea of having a flasher when I'm on a brand new pond.
Now that I'm retired I can't afford any new gizmos so I hope my flasher outlives me. On the other hand I'm a deer hunter who loves to sit up against a sunny oak tree and watch the birds and squirrels. I'm not sure how much deer hunting and ice fishing have in common?
I am sure that a flasher is a super way to get the kids out of the house and on the ice. I'm afraid they all need some high tech gizmo to get them excited at the beginning.
Dick
There's nothing wrong with either way of fishing. I spent years watching tip-ups with a beer in my hand, and had a great time doing it. Now I find it more fun to play with the flasher or sonar. As long as it's legal I have no problem with how anyone fishes.
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I bought a vexilar double vision last year and it one the best investments i ever made . You truly do get a better understanding of fish behavior , when you have a unit like this.