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Offline Kevin23

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Re: What is this
« Reply #30 on: Jan 19, 2009, 12:13 PM »
I don't think the green sunfish would have a mouth as big as that, though.  I also think the fin pattern goes against the green sunfish more & fits the rock bass or warmouth more.  Another thought.  If the color pattern is changed, who's to say the pigment/coloration of the eye wouldn't change as well.

What are you talking about? It looks exactly like a green sunfish. I have caught 1000's of them some being over 10" long. 
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Re: What is this
« Reply #31 on: Jan 19, 2009, 01:59 PM »
Green Sunfish, good flathead bait!!

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Re: What is this
« Reply #32 on: Jan 19, 2009, 03:46 PM »
We call them Rubber Tails or Brim.  Depending on the clarity of water the edge of there fins can be bright yellow.  They have a smallmouth bass head with a bluegill body.  They make there spawning beds right beside the bluegills.  Yes they are good catfish bait.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #33 on: Jan 19, 2009, 09:34 PM »
I thought the green sunfish but the mouth was way to big and the pectoral fins are too close to the gill plate. Not a rock bass or a warmouth eyes were not red. Jurys still out

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Re: What is this
« Reply #34 on: Jan 20, 2009, 06:54 AM »
Case closed.... It's a green sunfish.  Go check your local bait shop and take a look they'll have a tank of them during open water.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #35 on: Jan 20, 2009, 11:19 AM »
Not a green sunfish. I have caugh hundreds of those. like I said earlier mouth way to big and the pectoral fins are not even close to the gill plates.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #36 on: Jan 20, 2009, 11:24 AM »
Bluegill and bass cant cross... Try again.

Maybe not in the wild but it's been done in a petri dish. Very low survival upon hatch.

Looks like a green sunfish to me but the pic could be better. 
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Re: What is this
« Reply #37 on: Jan 20, 2009, 12:15 PM »
Not a green sunfish. I have caugh hundreds of those. like I said earlier mouth way to big and the pectoral fins are not even close to the gill plates.

Green sunnies have rather large mouths, can't see fins that well. You should have frozen this hybrid alien fish for future examination........  You might have a fish named after you!!   ;D

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Re: What is this
« Reply #38 on: Jan 20, 2009, 02:50 PM »
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Quote from: MelroseHawkins on Jan 19, 2009, 12:58 PM
I don't think the green sunfish would have a mouth as big as that, though.  I also think the fin pattern goes against the green sunfish more & fits the rock bass or warmouth more.  Another thought.  If the color pattern is changed, who's to say the pigment/coloration of the eye wouldn't change as well.


What are you talking about? It looks exactly like a green sunfish. I have caught 1000's of them some being over 10" lon



You would think after catching 1000's of them, you would notice the mouth.  :)   There is no sunfish with a mouth that large.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #39 on: Jan 20, 2009, 03:11 PM »
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Quote from: MelroseHawkins on Jan 19, 2009, 12:58 PM
I don't think the green sunfish would have a mouth as big as that, though.  I also think the fin pattern goes against the green sunfish more & fits the rock bass or warmouth more.  Another thought.  If the color pattern is changed, who's to say the pigment/coloration of the eye wouldn't change as well.


What are you talking about? It looks exactly like a green sunfish. I have caught 1000's of them some being over 10" lon



You would think after catching 1000's of them, you would notice the mouth.  :)   There is no sunfish with a mouth that large.
Do an image search on yahoo for green sunfish, you will find plenty of examples of the large mouth.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #40 on: Jan 20, 2009, 03:34 PM »
I have caught them with mouths big enough to hit a rapala DT10.
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Re: What is this
« Reply #41 on: Jan 20, 2009, 04:04 PM »
Green Sunfish Picture

Green Sunfish are found throughout the Mississippi Drainage. Green sunfish can grow to two pounds but most are less than a pound. They have been widely introduced outside of their natural range. Most often caught when fishing for other bream (sunfish).

Green Sunfish can be distinguished from other sunfish by the bluish-green with emerald and yellow reflections, with a white or yellow belly. The Green Sunfish does not have as deeply compressed a body as most other sunfish ( bream ), its body more closely resembles that of the google-eye / warmouth. The mouth is also much larger than most other sunfish and the gill flap is dark with a white to yellow edge. Sometimes there are several black vertical bars on the sides and usually there is a black spot at the rear of the dorsal fin.


Found this on a site.  I may have to surrender.  I'm man enough if I do.  Going to check around for some more. Could it be an albino green sunfish?


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Re: What is this
« Reply #42 on: Jan 20, 2009, 04:06 PM »
I would have to say it is a green sunfish. Not a warmouth. Not a hybrid.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #43 on: Jan 21, 2009, 01:42 PM »
"Could it be an albino green sunfish?

Your kidding right?  ;D

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Re: What is this
« Reply #44 on: Jan 21, 2009, 03:39 PM »
About as much as you wanting to drive on Brinker Lake which one could literally skip a stone across. To those interested, see George Wyth thread for a chuckle.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #45 on: Jan 21, 2009, 03:56 PM »
Across a 134 acre lake??  Evidently I'm not the only one that does not have your super human powers of stone skipping and sled pulling. I won't even get into your scientific knowledge of the albino green sunfish.... :laugh: :laugh:

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Re: What is this
« Reply #46 on: Jan 21, 2009, 04:32 PM »
"134 acre lake??" 


Nuff said!!!!   134 acres.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #47 on: Jan 21, 2009, 04:52 PM »
"134 acre lake??" 


Nuff said!!!!   134 acres.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #48 on: Jan 21, 2009, 11:09 PM »
Across a 134 acre lake??  Evidently I'm not the only one that does not have your super human powers of stone skipping and sled pulling. I won't even get into your scientific knowledge of the albino green sunfish.... :laugh: :laugh:

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Re: What is this
« Reply #49 on: Jan 22, 2009, 07:34 AM »

I caught this little guy last night on George Wyth....  Look Familiar??

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Re: What is this
« Reply #50 on: Jan 22, 2009, 08:37 AM »
Yes it does!  That solves that. I bet you got a chuckle when that came up the hole.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #51 on: Jan 22, 2009, 08:45 AM »
Yeah I did!!! Had to get a picture of him   :o

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Re: What is this
« Reply #52 on: Jan 22, 2009, 10:02 AM »
another vote for Green Sunfish, and yes, they do have BIG MOUTHS.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #53 on: Jan 22, 2009, 10:17 AM »
Thats good stuff. We will call it a green sunfish. The one in the first picture was caught at Aquabi.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #54 on: Jan 22, 2009, 10:26 AM »
A few older pics of green sunnies ive caught a few years back.  Cant really see their mouths but they are quite large compared to a gill's mouth.  Both these greenies were at or slightly above 9" and one of them was caught on a tip up and it ate a whole minnow.






Rawfish,

Did the fish that you caught have a red semicircle on the outside of the black ear flap?  If that is the case the fish you have might of been a redear since they are in that lake too.  I cant really see from the picture but if there was a bit of red on the black gill flap then it would have been a redear.


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Re: What is this
« Reply #55 on: Jan 22, 2009, 10:40 AM »
Thats good stuff. We will call it a green sunfish. The one in the first picture was caught at Aquabi.
                                                             He must of knew we were talking about him  :laugh:

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Re: What is this
« Reply #56 on: Jan 22, 2009, 03:23 PM »
A few older pics of green sunnies ive caught a few years back.  Cant really see their mouths but they are quite large compared to a gill's mouth.  Both these greenies were at or slightly above 9" and one of them was caught on a tip up and it ate a whole minnow.

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Rawfish,

Did the fish that you caught have a red semicircle on the outside of the black ear flap?  If that is the case the fish you have might of been a redear since they are in that lake too.  I cant really see from the picture but if there was a bit of red on the black gill flap then it would have been a redear.



Both of those were blugill/green sunfish hybrids. You can tell by the pattern on the body. A true blue sunfish will have horizontal markings and no odd ball markings like in those 2 pictures. The second one you can definatly tell it is a hybrid right away. Had to look back at the first one.
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Re: What is this
« Reply #57 on: Jan 23, 2009, 07:16 AM »
Thats good stuff. We will call it a green sunfish. The one in the first picture was caught at Aquabi.


i fish ahquabi regularly in the spring and summer, fly fish for gils early and crappie almost the rest of the time. i have only caught one of those in the 3 years i have been down there...

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Re: What is this
« Reply #58 on: Jan 23, 2009, 10:27 AM »
The fish pictured bove are not the same thing the are way too tall.

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Re: What is this
« Reply #59 on: Jan 23, 2009, 03:29 PM »
The fish pictured bove are not the same thing the are way too tall.

Those were not the same thing. Those were hybrids not green sunfish.
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