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Offline sodakdave

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Ice chisel / spud weight
« on: Dec 04, 2017, 11:06 PM »
What is an acceptable weight for an ice chisel to function properly to check the ice thickness?

I was at the store the other day and took a look at the Eskimo 2-piece chisel. It seems really heavy. I just can't imagine myself pounding the ice with it every step during my walk out. I wouldn't have an arm left to fish with by the time I got to a spot.

I can also see going too far the other way, where a chisel wouldn't be heavy enough to really be effective.

Where's the happy medium?

I know the Eskimo chisel is only 11 lbs, and as dead weight that's not an issue, but lifting and pounding every step or two would be (for me).

On the other hand, something like the Cabela's brand chisel is only 6 lbs. Light enough that I can see myself using it over a long distance, but is it heavy enough to be effective?

Thoughts?

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #1 on: Dec 04, 2017, 11:22 PM »
You just have to understand the capabilities of the tool in your hand...

Pounds per square inch has everything to do with it..

A simple piece of rebar sharpened like a pencil can tell you a lot...

Sometimes it might be more about hardness, than how thick, I've been on 2ft I felt lucky to make it back from..

Also, a tool for checking safety, and one for cutting actual fishing holes could be entirely different...

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #2 on: Dec 04, 2017, 11:26 PM »
I'm not going to be using it for cutting holes, just for safety. I got one with a staggered tooth pattern because I figured that would be more effective than a 2" wide piece of flat still.

I'm probably overthinking it (as I am known to do).

Just bash the ice a few times and get a feel for how much it takes out per hit and go with that.

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #3 on: Dec 06, 2017, 06:22 AM »
I don't think weight is the issue. I use a spud bar to check not only the thickness of the ice, but the quality and tone of the ice. Like Ice Scratcher said, 2 feet of ice can be as sketchy as 2 inches of black ice. The important thing to remember is ice thickness varies, and other factors like your weight and how much gear you're toting are all factors in how safe you are. If it don't feel right, IT AIN'T!
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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #4 on: Dec 06, 2017, 07:03 AM »
I would suggest an economy one piece chisel ..weigh between 4.5-5.5 lbs..heavy enough to get the job done and light enough to bring every outing ...one piece means no parts to lose .Eskimo ..Frabill ..Mills Fleet Farm have versions that you can find online with discounts and sales ...$20-$25.

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=2581713&type=product&WT.z_btnclk=YMAL-2581713&WT.z_pg_ref=prd1083142

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #5 on: Dec 06, 2017, 07:22 AM »
I would suggest an economy one piece chisel ..weigh between 4.5-5.5 lbs..heavy enough to get the job done and light enough to bring every outing ...one piece means no parts to lose .Eskimo ..Frabill ..Mills Fleet Farm have versions that you can find online with discounts and sales ...$20-$25.


I ended up getting the Cabela's one piece at 6 lbs. Now to just get striker to ship my suit and I'll be set.

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #6 on: Dec 06, 2017, 07:35 AM »
My home made spud weighs in at 4lbs. Wouldn't want any more than that or I might not use it. I used a hollow piece of common pipe, then pressed in a 1 foot piece of solid round on the business end with a chisel point ground on. On the handle end I used tool wrap to protect my hand from the cold metal. Finished it of with a piece of rope for a wrist sling. The trouble with using rebar is that it has no spine stiffness. Like an arrow good spine stiffness gives you good penetration. Last winter I made a few extras for my fishing buds, now I just let these guys go first. LOL.









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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #7 on: Dec 06, 2017, 07:46 AM »

I retired my old green monster due to a weakened shoulder , I ended up buying a economy redneck chisel 4.5 lbs , I thought about using my home made probing bar that I used for many years of construction work but Im retired and so is it , it is what ice scratcher  described , long as you have something to use
     

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #8 on: Dec 06, 2017, 07:48 AM »
I ended up getting the Cabela's one piece at 6 lbs. Now to just get striker to ship my suit and I'll be set.

Nice ...little practice to get use to the sound of the thud ...
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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #9 on: Dec 14, 2017, 08:38 AM »
My home made spud weighs in at 4lbs. Wouldn't want any more than that or I might not use it. I used a hollow piece of common pipe, then pressed in a 1 foot piece of solid round on the business end with a chisel point ground on. On the handle end I used tool wrap to protect my hand from the cold metal. Finished it of with a piece of rope for a wrist sling. The trouble with using rebar is that it has no spine stiffness. Like an arrow good spine stiffness gives you good penetration. Last winter I made a few extras for my fishing buds, now I just let these guys go first. LOL.







Where do you get tool wrap?

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #10 on: Dec 14, 2017, 09:39 AM »
I made one out of 1 inch rebar and a piece of spring steel for the blade. It's right around 8 pounds. Makes for quick work cleaning up holes and if that thing doesn't break the ice I know I'm good to go.
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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #11 on: Dec 14, 2017, 10:41 AM »
 The tool wrap was something a guy gave me. Stretchy rubberized stuff that electrical workers use on their tools to prevent accidental contact with live circuits.

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #12 on: Dec 14, 2017, 11:18 AM »
Probably F4 tape (or similar), the stuff is pretty amazing
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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #13 on: Dec 14, 2017, 11:20 AM »
I wonder is something like regrip would work

https://re-grip.com/

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #14 on: Dec 14, 2017, 11:28 AM »
 That looks like it would work great. When I slap projects like this together I try and use stuff I have on hand. Zero cost is a good goal. But that re-grip stuff would make your spud a Pro model!

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #15 on: Dec 14, 2017, 11:30 AM »
A few of my friends and I have the Eskimo Economy Chisel which only weighs  4 1/2 pounds to check for safe ice and it works very well and doesn't beat you up.  They're a one piece design and cost about $20.  The only thing you have to add is a lanyard in case it breaks through the ice you don't loose it, I made one out of an old shoe lace.

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Re: Ice chisel / spud weight
« Reply #16 on: Today at 06:53 AM »
I have at least 4 different Spuds and each has gotten lighter and more compact the more I fish.  The old ones are close to 20lbs long steel bars that are relegated to prying out big rocks and tree stumps in the summer.  The Eskimo chisel / hammer thing looks useful though right now I have a 4ft pipe threaded to a solid steel end about 6lbs.  I like being able to unscrew the handle so all fits nice in the sled.
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