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jpohlic

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7x8 shanty build
« on: Nov 20, 2017, 10:26 AM »
I spent the weekend building a 7x8 shanty. Got most of it done on Saturday but then spent 4 hours Sunday morning in the hospital getting my eye flushed. Note to self - wear your safety glasses for EVERY cut, not just most of them. Sunday afternoon we finished framing and started insulating. Still a bit of insulating left to do (I'm using R6 rigid insulation), decide where the holes go, and a bit of door hardware/door handle, maybe a couple hours work for next weekend.

Anyway, my goal was something that could fish 4, sleep 2, with room for a table and woodstove, and fit on the back of a truck. The shanty is a truck camper style, 7x8, with minimal framing, just enough to hold the plywood together. It's glued and screwed and surprisingly solid. The floor was built with (3) 4x4 treated timbers with 1/8" puckboard on the bottom and a sheet of 5/8 treated plywood on top. Everything else was built with (10) sheets of 3/8" spruce plywood with (17) 2x2's for framing and a 2x4 ridge beam. Weight is estimated at about 475-500 pounds, it slides on the shop floor quite easily by hand and I can lift the end up to shove blocking underneath.

I'm hoping to find a base and post for an RV style table that I can drop down for a bed at the back end, as well as adding a folding extension to one bench for another bed on the side. Also undecided on what to put on the roof, maybe metal?

Here's a rendering of the design as well as a few pics of the progress.









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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #1 on: Nov 20, 2017, 02:22 PM »
Sweet looking shack !! keep us in the loop we love shack porn  ;D. oh yeah safety glasses definately been down that road a couple times

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #2 on: Nov 23, 2017, 07:07 AM »
Sweet shack!  I love the "Musroom" design, it really makes great use of the floor space.  I built mine 6' wide because I had a few ft wide pieces of ply laying around.  Looking back 7ft may have been better to lay down sideways for sleeping. It turns out 6ft wide was better for my trailer anyway I guess, it just overhangs the side rail of the trailer just a bit and looks like it is supposed to be there, 7ft would have stuck out and made more wind resistance.  Do you plan to paint the outside or maybe varnish it?  I had a stack of left over metal roofing to use on mine but if I didn't have it already I would have coated the plywood in clear woodglue and laid camouflage bed sheets in the wet glue, let it dry, then helmsman that sucker.... BOOM. Last forever!  Great built keep the pics coming! P.S. I did the same thing to my eye during my build....One cut without safety's and that was it....

jpohlic

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #3 on: Nov 23, 2017, 02:24 PM »
I picked up a can of Thompsons Timber Oil Water seal in Walnut color. Should look really good and give it a bit of protection from the elements.

Also today I picked up a Coleman 40 watt solar panel with controller for less than $100!! I threw a couple 12v LED light fixtures in the cart and a roll of wire so my lighting needs should be taken care of, just need to grab a 12v fuse panel. The 12v deep cycle battery for my trolling motor has found a new winter home in my shack.

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #4 on: Nov 23, 2017, 06:37 PM »
I have use cabot Australian timber oil b4 and had great results. It looks great topped with some helmsman..  I built a picnic table out of regular pine lumber ten years ago with two coats of helmsman it still looks great!  Sweet deal you got on that solar panel and controller! 

jpohlic

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #5 on: Nov 26, 2017, 08:31 AM »
More progress yesterday - got the insulation finished, installed some eye bolts for securing to the ice, a door self closing spring and a hasp for the padlock, and stained the outside. Still some work left to do next weekend...










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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #6 on: Nov 27, 2017, 04:45 PM »
Looking good!!!!

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #7 on: Nov 29, 2017, 10:58 AM »
What is the estimated cost of this house as a finished project? I am researching building my own house and am looking for a larger house while keeping the cost down. Hard to do but I am patience :-)

jpohlic

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #8 on: Nov 29, 2017, 03:22 PM »
What is the estimated cost of this house as a finished project?

Depends on the price of plywood in your area. As built just the structure used:
(3) 4x4 treated skids
(1) 5/8" treated plywood
(10) 3/8" standard spruce plywood
(19) 2x2x8' lumber
(1) 2x4x8' lumber
The lumber was approx $300 CDN

I also used:
(3) large tubes PL premium
(300) 1 1/2" wood screws
(100) 2 1/2" wood screws
(30) 3/4" wood screws
(1) 4x8 sheet of 1/8" puckboard
(10) sheets of 1 1/2" rigid insulation
(3) hinges
(1) hasp and padlock
(1) door return spring
Some of this I already had, some was purchased.

I estimate I have $700 into it not including the lights/wiring/solar panel/woodstove.

I'm drawing a set of construction drawings with a detailed material and cut list. It should hopefully be done by the end of the year

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #9 on: Nov 29, 2017, 04:10 PM »
Thank you for sharing! I am always so curious how much people are able to create their concepts/ideas from. It's also interesting to see that a rendering from the 50's estimated a similar project and 5 hours build time and $25. LOL.

jpohlic

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #10 on: Dec 02, 2017, 09:38 PM »
Thank you for sharing! I am always so curious how much people are able to create their concepts/ideas from. It's also interesting to see that a rendering from the 50's estimated a similar project and 5 hours build time and $25. LOL.

If I was to build it again 5 hours is probably accurate for framing it. $25... I wish!

jpohlic

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #11 on: Dec 02, 2017, 10:06 PM »
Got a bit more done today.

Installed the solar panel, wiring, and lights. Just need to install the battery and the elec system is done.








Then I built a fold down bed. It's 54" wide and 87" long, made of 3/4" plywood with a cleat along each seat and a removable center support.








Then I added some eyebolts in 2 opposite corners for hanging a hammock for an afternoon nap when I don't feel like folding down the bed.



And I topped off the roof peak with some blueskin to keep the water out until I install some metal roofing... maybe next year.

I'm waiting for my catch covers to be delivered so I can drill the holes, and then I also need to install the wood stove. I would have done that today but I bought 6" pipe while my old stove uses 5". Doh.

Also I have some 3/4" plywood left over so I'm going to build a fold down table that attaches to the underside of the bed. Then maybe a shelf or two inside and out and I think it will be done! It's taken a lot more time than I anticipated, especially installing the rigid insulation. Looking forward to getting it on the ice!!!

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #12 on: Dec 06, 2017, 05:54 PM »
Looks good, maybe I missed it on above discussions, but how do you get in into the ice and then back onto the truck/trailer?

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #13 on: Dec 06, 2017, 09:10 PM »
How much does it weigh?  Looks good. As some else asked, load and unload?

jpohlic

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #14 on: Dec 07, 2017, 09:01 AM »
Going by the specs from the home depot website, the weight of just the shanty wood/insulation is probably around 475-500 lbs. I'm not sure how accurate those specs are, I think it might be lighter than that. I can slide it easily on the shop floor and by pushing on the top of the door frame I can lift that end. At the back I ran a wire rope through the skids to pull it and also to use for lifting to put blocks underneath.

I also added a 3/4" plywood bed that adds about 25 pounds, wood stove is about 70 pounds, deep cycle battery is 66 pounds, plus I'm going to add a 3/4" plywood table that's about 10 pounds - so a total of around 650 pounds.

I have a tilt deck trailer that will be easy to load with a hand winch and will probably just anchor the shanty down and pull the trailer ahead to unload.

If I need to load it on my truck I'd use some ramps and winch it up/down. I'm not sure if I'll ever have to put it on the truck but I wanted it to fit just in case.

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Re: 7x8 shanty build
« Reply #15 on: Dec 10, 2017, 07:54 PM »
Worked on the shack for a few hours today. Got the folding table built, installed the battery, installed 3 of the 4 catch covers, built a base for the wood stove and got most of the interior heat shield done.








 



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