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Offline ice dawg

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Another one on the way out
« on: Oct 15, 2007, 09:02 AM »
I know this has been brought up before, but one of our local mom and pop bait shops is closing at the end of the month. The sad part of it is that it has been a bait shop for thirty years and the person that is buying it just buys property for speculation. It will probably be torn down or dust sit there empty. The people that owned it previously made a living off of it and the person that sold it is losing money all the time. It's just another case of sportsmen and Sportswomen needing to support their small locally owned stores. I did what I could, but one person doesn't buy enough equipment to keep a store going. We all need to keep these guys going if we can. I think that the owners of these stores need to understand what their customers want to buy also. Just my .02.
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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #1 on: Oct 15, 2007, 09:04 AM »
I know this has been brought up before, but one of our local mom and pop bait shops is closing at the end of the month. The sad part of it is that it has been a bait shop for thirty years and the person that is buying it just buys property for speculation. It will probably be torn down or dust sit there empty. The people that owned it previously made a living off of it and the person that sold it is losing money all the time. It's just another case of sportsmen and Sportswomen needing to support their small locally owned stores. I did what I could, but one person doesn't buy enough equipment to keep a store going. We all need to keep these guys going if we can. I think that the owners of these stores need to understand what their customers want to buy also. Just my .02.
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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #2 on: Oct 15, 2007, 09:18 AM »
It is very sad. I have got to drive twenty miles to buy bait. I would be more than happy to spend more so I wouldn't have to drive so far. bear

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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #3 on: Oct 15, 2007, 09:52 AM »
Around us in Pa you have Cabelas, Gander, and Walmart beating the pants off of Ma Pas. That is the downside to getting the big guys in!
We still have two Ma Pa bait stores and we do support them.

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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #4 on: Oct 15, 2007, 10:49 AM »
i haven't bought anythingfrom a walmart in years. i boycott the place.
the only time i go in there is to use the restroom. thats all they'll ever get out of me.
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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #5 on: Oct 15, 2007, 12:40 PM »
I always support my local merchants even if it means paying more. Usually the service is better as is the quality. I only go to Wally World if I absolutely have to. Because once the little guys are gone it will be only the big guys left. This kinda angers off my girlfriend but she will get over it. ;D Besides a person spends have his time just trying to find something.

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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #6 on: Oct 15, 2007, 01:47 PM »
Big companies come in and depress wages and depress customers with workers that dont know jack or dont care because they get payed minimum wage.  Wal Mart is like a communist regime in my opinion........How are people supposed to find decent jobs where they have a chance to work their way up the ladder?  That sorry to say doesnt happen anymore you dont get raised or promoted anylonger you dont like your job they fire you and hire someone else in a second......  Only way to make a living now is with a stupid piece of paper and half the people that have them dont have common sense skills or are c**ky jackasses.  The greed in this country sickens me........When standard oil got too big and had a monopoly on everything the government stepped in and broke them up......  This should happen with Wal-Mart but Wal-Mart is based around greed and greed is what flys in our current goverment.........Peop le in political office have blood on their hands,blood of the common worker.  10 Yrs from now everyone will have to move to china to get a job...........

Our founding fathers are rolling in their graves! >:(

is saving 10 or 20 cents worth your job? or your fellow americans job? THINK ABOUT IT!!!!
KEEP YOUR JOBS.............BUY LOCAL!!!!!!

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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #7 on: Oct 15, 2007, 01:58 PM »
is saving 10 or 20 cents worth your job? or your fellow americans job? THINK ABOUT IT!!!!
KEEP YOUR JOBS.............BUY LOCAL!!!!!!

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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #8 on: Oct 15, 2007, 03:33 PM »
My local bait store closed down also. Not because of economics, but the owner was in and out of the hospital due to poor health, and couldn't handle it any more. Thats why I had to turn to the pet shop to get my wax worms and grubs. I now have to get my shinner minnows at bait stores near Lake Erie and bring them home and freeze them for ice fishing use. I posted previously that I tried feeder goldfish but I was desperate at the time. I don't do that any more.

I , like a lot of people, am stuck in the job loop also. I work for a company that operates similar to wal mart.
I am in lower management. I do a great job, according to them, and they offered me a promotion. I asked all the basic questions and finally asked about the wage. The terminal managers response was, "I figured that you could do it for the same pay your making now". I was a little stunned, but not too much, as I am very familiar with their track record. I responded by saying, "You want me to take on double the responsibility, double the aggravation and stress, for the same pay as I'm making now? Your out of your mind!" I could get away with this as I know the terminal manager pretty well and I know that the decision came higher up on the ladder, and I told him so.

Not only does management at this company get paid less then half of the union employees, we had our health insurance raised three times. I now pay double the insurance cost of the union people because the contract has them locked in at the old rate. I say, good for them. I wish management could have a union, but its not helping me in the least. It actually hurt me because within two weeks of the final negotiations of the current contract, more money started coming out of my pocket. Management used to get bonuses for doing a good job. Thats gone too. I will get out of there when something better comes along but for now I will just have to deal with it.

Now to the wal mart thing. I, like so many others, are stuck in the wal mart loop.  So I have to save every penny I can, and unfortunately, that means I have to shop at places like wal mart(notice how I use lower case letters every time because thats how I feel about it). Everybody's standard of living
is dropping to the socialist level because of the free trade agreement. Even though it was signed into law by bill clinton, george bush(again lower case letters for both) is trying to make it worse as in the following article.

This is from the Public Citizen:......www.citizen.org/trade/nafta/
NAFTA promoters - including many of the world's largest corporations - promised it would create hundreds of thousands of new high-wage U.S. jobs, raise living standards in the U.S., Mexico and Canada, improve environmental conditions and transform Mexico from a poor developing country into a booming new market for U.S. exports.

Why such divergent views? NAFTA was a radical experiment - never before had a merger of three nations with such radically different levels of development been attempted. Plus, until NAFTA, “trade” agreements only dealt with cutting tariffs and lifting quotas to set the terms of trade in goods between countries. But NAFTA contained 900 pages of one-size-fits-all rules to which each nation was required to conform all of its domestic laws - regardless of whether voters and their democratically-elected representatives had previously rejected the very same policies in Congress, state legislatures or city councils.

NAFTA requires limits on the safety and inspection of meat sold in our grocery stores; new patent rules that raised medicine prices; constraints on your local government’s ability to zone against sprawl or toxic industries; and elimination of preferences for spending your tax dollars on U.S.-made products or locally-grown food. In fact, calling NAFTA a “trade” agreement is misleading, NAFTA is really an investment agreement. Its core provisions grant foreign investors a remarkable set of new rights and privileges that promote relocation abroad of factories and jobs and the privatization and deregulation of essential services, such as water, energy and health care.

Remarkably, many of NAFTA’s most passionate boosters in Congress and among economists never read the agreement. They made their pie-in-the-sky promises of NAFTA benefits based on trade theory and ideological prejudice for anything with the term “free trade” attached to it.

Now, over a decade later, the time for conjecture and promises is over: the data are in and they clearly show the damage NAFTA has wrought for millions of people in the U.S., Mexico and Canada. Thankfully, the failed NAFTA model - a watered down version of which is also contained in the World Trade Organization (WTO) - is merely one among many options.

Throughout the world, people suffering with the consequences of this disastrous experiment are organizing to demand the better world we know is possible - but we face a race against time. The same interests who got us into NAFTA are pushing to expand it to include 31 more countries in Central and South America through the proposed Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA). In 2005, Congress voted to extend NAFTA to five Central American countries through the Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA), and the Bush administration is now looking to add Peru and Colombia to the list as well.
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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #9 on: Oct 16, 2007, 10:09 AM »
I guess I have to agree with IceholeFisherman about being in the Walmart loop. One thing I have noticed as I visit different forums is that there are more and more people expressing their displeasure as to not finding items made in the USA or Canada. The owner of one of our local baitshops goes as far as to not buy products that aren't made in North America if at all possible. I think that there are enough people that are angered by products being manufactured elsewhere that we may change something if we just voice our displeasure. Many times I find myself asking an employee at Menards, Kmart or Walmart if there is nothing made in the USA or Canada anymore. I walked out of Menards one day because I couldn't find a table saw that was made in USA. I went to Sears because I thought Craftsman would be made in the USA. Wrong again. The model that I wanted was made in China also. If you want a USA or Canada made product express your opinion to someone in a store or do as I do and email the corporate office and tell them what is on my mind. I can't be the only one that is sick of an inferior product that has to be exchanged three times to get one that will do what it is advertised to do. It seems like everything that I buy from a big box store has to be exchanged because it is either missing parts or was damaged in shipment. A big shock came to me when I wanted to buy a tuner with a CD player for my home. I told the people in the appliance store that I wanted a good quality unit that is made in the USA. They gave me a puzzled look and said there are none. I bought a foreign made stereo because I had no other choice. State your opinion whenever you get the chance. >:(
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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #10 on: Oct 16, 2007, 11:44 AM »
I try to buy from my local bait store as much as possible but the owner always seems to be upset that I interrupt him from watching TV when I walk in.  The guy has a great selection and good prices but the service is poor.  The one time that he seemed happy to see me was when I asked about buying a gas auger and he though I was going to spend some money.

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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #11 on: Oct 16, 2007, 01:41 PM »
before we bash all big box places  how many places you have to get your gear???  how many of you buy off the internet???    sometime you have no choice   before walmart in aroostook county   you really had nothing    had Ames   closed   had zayres   closed  Grossmans closed     all this prior to wallyworld   wally world  has kept prices alot lower  We now have a LOWES   great prices  compaired to what they used to be up here   Local hardware had us by the gonads   17 bucks plus for a lousy sheet of 7/16ths osb    Yes I shop big box stores.  every week I'm at one   I will continue to too   Keep my prices low   show me a selection  you get my business   if ya cant    Hello internet I'm bitter yes   I could move but chose not to  politicians made it hard for this neck of the woods  by closing the base  ultimately who ever has the quality  and the best price wins
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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #12 on: Oct 16, 2007, 05:39 PM »
before we bash all big box places  how many places you have to get your gear???  how many of you buy off the internet???    sometime you have no choice   before walmart in aroostook county   you really had nothing    had Ames   closed   had zayres   closed  Grossmans closed     all this prior to wallyworld   wally world  has kept prices alot lower  We now have a LOWES   great prices  compaired to what they used to be up here   Local hardware had us by the gonads   17 bucks plus for a lousy sheet of 7/16ths osb    Yes I shop big box stores.  every week I'm at one   I will continue to too   Keep my prices low   show me a selection  you get my business   if ya cant    Hello internet I'm bitter yes   I could move but chose not to  politicians made it hard for this neck of the woods  by closing the base  ultimately who ever has the quality  and the best price wins



Sometimes a person is just plain between a rock and a hard place and has to do what he can for himself. It sounds like you are there.  Just so ya make it on the ice this winter. I went to the bait shop today and bought a bunch of ice jigs and other things from him today. The poor guy is too young too retire and his knees are in really bad shap. I wish him the best in the future.
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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #13 on: Oct 16, 2007, 05:48 PM »
well like mainehazmt said i suggest buying his bait tank if you can, itl help him out and itl help you out too

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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #14 on: Oct 18, 2007, 12:35 AM »
i try to buy most of my stuff at baitshops even if its a lil more money, i just dont like supporting big chain stores and seeing local shops closed. if im at walmart i might buy a hook or two but nothing big, i could of got my 2 fishfinders $20 cheaper at canadian tire but i went to one of the local shops and bought them because they actually demonstrate each unit your looking at so you can see what your getting. the only time i hit the big stores for fishing supplies is at the end of open water and then again at the end of the ice season because of the dirt cheap prices.

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Re: Another one on the way out
« Reply #15 on: Oct 18, 2007, 08:23 AM »
Where I live the local sporting goods shops tend to be robber barons!  I buy some stuff from Wally World, for example 150yard spool of Fireline 11.99 at wally world, local shops 14.99-17.99!  That's a huge difference!  For me that is the difference in having the money to buy bait or not!

I'm torn on the whole buy local thing!  I have been burned by my friendly neighborhood "Local" many more times than I have the big stores.  Around here the local merchants have no concept of customer service, or the idea of making it right!

I still buy most of my stuff from local shops but when I know I can save a bunch on particular items I have no qualms with buying from a big box store...


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