Author Topic: is this what i think... smelt?... in ma? (Read 5887 times)

bisceglia · « **on:** Mar 02, 2009, 08:57 AM »

i have no clue what these were. took a couple pics to see if they are indeed smelt. are they?

Fishgill · « **Reply #1 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 09:08 AM »

Yup that's what it is.

fishermantim4 · « **Reply #2 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 09:08 AM »

the mouth looks too small

djb · « **Reply #3 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 09:33 AM »

That's a smelt. We were catching them in Seymour Lake in Vermont last week. We also jigged up several lake trout that had smelt tails sticking out of their mouths. They are good bait for everything, we will jig them up and send them back down on a tilt for lakers. I'll bet if you do the same with them you'd have some luck. Some days the fish hit anything,other days they only want smelts. That's one of the fun challenges of ice fishing. Give it a try. Good Luck.
By the way, did that come from that lake in Orange?

Joser06 · « **Reply #4 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 10:59 AM »

That's not a smelt.

Emerald shiner

http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/vhs/emsh.html

This is a smelt. They are available everywhere here in Maine.

What you have caught may be an emerald shiner or a different type of shiner.

waldojigger · « **Reply #5 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 11:01 AM »

looks like a blue nose shiner

jf5 · « **Reply #6 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 11:08 AM »

DEf not a smelt. Does look like an Emerald...

GrizlyGarou · « **Reply #7 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 11:23 AM »

Quote from: Joser06 link=topic=113093.msg1107785#

This is a smelt. They are available everywhere here in Maine.
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Is that a second dorsal fin on the smelt, or a drop of water touching its back?

bisceglia · « **Reply #8 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 11:31 AM »

Quote from: Joser06 on Mar 02, 2009, 10:59 AM

That's not a smelt.

Emerald shiner
(Image removed from quote.)
http://dnr.wi.gov/fish/vhs/emsh.html

This is a smelt. They are available everywhere here in Maine.
(Image removed from quote.)

What you have caught may be an emerald shiner or a different type of shiner.

it's probably not an emerald shiner. it's kind of hard to see in the pic. but there was a stripe going through the side of that thing and through it's eyes. the mouth was more rounded than a minnow's, kinda like a dace's but smaller. what does a blunt nose minnow look like?

sully12ring · « **Reply #9 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 11:57 AM »

Def not! a smelt. emerald

jimmyclaude · « **Reply #10 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 12:07 PM »

Taste it.... Try some hot sauce 8)

Joser06 · « **Reply #11 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 12:40 PM »

Yeah the tail is wrong to be an emerald shiner. That is an adipose fin on the smelt, similar to the ones catfish and trout have.

bisceglia · « **Reply #12 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 01:15 PM »

what the heck is this thing? it's def. not an emerald.

flaggs · « **Reply #13 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 01:21 PM »

Quote from: jimmyclaude on Mar 02, 2009, 12:07 PM

Taste it.... Try some hot sauce 8)

Bet it taste like Rock Bass

Flaggs!

lenz · « **Reply #14 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 01:22 PM »

alewife?

bisceglia · « **Reply #15 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 01:26 PM »

Quote from: lenz on Mar 02, 2009, 01:22 PM

alewife?

i was in a school of these things. the mouth was just smaller than a size 10 hook. the one in the pic. is about 5.5 in. does this and the last description help narrow it down?

MA bass fishing · « **Reply #16 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 01:39 PM »

Quote from: lenz on Mar 02, 2009, 01:22 PM

alewife?

alewifes nope this is what they look like

JJ · « **Reply #17 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 01:40 PM »

Definitely not an alewife. That is what they sell as a "hunt"; that is the problem they had at Michael's Wholesale Bait, nobody knew exactly what species a hunt is.

jimmyclaude · « **Reply #18 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 01:54 PM »

You guys should do a power point presentation of bait ID.

bisceglia · « **Reply #19 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 02:35 PM »

Quote from: jimmyclaude on Mar 02, 2009, 01:54 PM

You guys should do a power point presentation of bait ID.

not a bad idea... start one jimmy.

reelucky · « **Reply #20 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 02:43 PM »

Quote from: bisceglia on Mar 02, 2009, 01:26 PM

i was in a school of these things.

You didn't even know any of your classmates ?

bisceglia · « **Reply #21 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 05:17 PM »

Quote from: reelucky on Mar 02, 2009, 02:43 PM

You didn't even know any of your classmates ?

i wish there were wise guys like you on this site

makes things alittle more entertaining

capt.shay · « **Reply #22 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 07:37 PM »

It's been a long day and I just took a quick glance BUT,,, I would venture to guess that is a shad rapper. AKA baby shad. Just a quick guess but that looks right for a shad rapper.

THE JIGGER · « **Reply #23 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 08:23 PM »

Quote from: djb on Mar 02, 2009, 09:33 AM

That's a smelt. We were catching them in Seymour Lake in Vermont last week. We also jigged up several lake trout that had smelt tails sticking out of their mouths. They are good bait for everything, we will jig them up and send them back down on a tilt for lakers. I'll bet if you do the same with them you'd have some luck. Some days the fish hit anything,other days they only want smelts. That's one of the fun challenges of ice fishing. Give it a try. Good Luck.
By the way, did that come from that lake in Orange?

If it was a smelt, I think its a no no to have in possesssion for bait in Mass as of 2/28/09.

THE JIGGER · « **Reply #24 on:** Mar 02, 2009, 09:19 PM »

Quote from: bisceglia on Mar 02, 2009, 11:31 AM

it's probably not an emerald shiner. it's kind of hard to see in the pic. but there was a stripe going through the side of that thing and through it's eyes. the mouth was more rounded than a minnow's, kinda like a dace's but smaller. what does a blunt nose minnow look like?

A Blackspot shiner has a black line running from the tail down the center http://gwsphothru the eye and ends at the mouth. CouldBe? Notropis atrocaudalis (blackspot shiner) http://gwsphotos.com/assets/Freshwater%20North%20American.htm

bisceglia · « **Reply #25 on:** Mar 03, 2009, 09:07 AM »

http://fish.dnr.cornell.edu/nyfish/Cyprinidae/mimic_shiner.html

the head of this looks almost identical, except color....the yellow fins realy stuck out when it was in the water....it's head, from the middle of it's eye up was allittle bit darker (i think you can see that in the pic)

FullTmeDad · « **Reply #26 on:** Mar 04, 2009, 08:26 AM »

The mouth makes it look like either a "stoneroller" (steel chub) or this...a "Suckermouth Minnow" which is rare.

FTD

bigbry068 · « **Reply #27 on:** Mar 04, 2009, 05:20 PM »

if you go to the first pic it does look like it has a black stripe down the middle of the body,

ThatsASub · « **Reply #28 on:** Mar 05, 2009, 10:05 AM »

looki like Bait to me

thefinlessbrown2 · « **Reply #29 on:** Mar 05, 2009, 08:30 PM »

alright already its an emerald shiner put it on a hook and catch a real fish so we can talk about that already lol

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