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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Ice Fishing Transportation => Topic started by: bart on Oct 24, 2010, 05:13 PM
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I recently purchased a snowmobile, 10' Artic Cat F570. I plan on a Auger rack up front off of the Sport Bumper. Also I plan on carry my ProTrap on a rack behind the seat. Any advice, do's and don'ts, and pics of your mods would be greatly appreciated.
I also purchased a 12' Triton covered trailer, I plan on having the whole arrangement(sled,auger,trap) left in place so I can pull on and off the trailer without having to unloading or loading everything every time in doing so.
Again any information would be greatly appreciated. Bart
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Looks like a great sled, and that sport bumper should be plenty strong to mount an auger too.
I'd like to come up with a similar setup for my Tundra, but don't quite have the necessary fabrication equipment yet. One thing to remember when you make a front mounted auger rack, is to make sure the rack clears the hood when opening, or make the whole rack easily removable for when you're checking the oil. Also, try and keep the auger as close to the centerline of the front suspension, this will distribute the weight better and prevent any issues with ski pressure and steering effort.
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i tried for a long time to figure out how to build a front rack. We have all seen the one Genz uses on a Bear Cat but it is produced for him and not commerically produced. Here is the best one I found but the guy had some machine shop skills. needed to cut some of the cowling to mount it properly.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/ravinerat/other%20stuff/auger.jpg)
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I tried the "Sewer pipe" which worked ok but the pipe cracked and broke. The cold temps were hard on it. I fashoned it after this one here.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/ravinerat/other%20stuff/carrier.jpg)
Here is one like your thinking of. It is inexpensive to make but the bumper could take a beating and crack with the weight. I have seen a few break the front bumper carrying a Jiffy 3 hp.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/ravinerat/other%20stuff/familypics067.jpg)
So after thinking long and hard I built a rear mount for my Tundra. I have no fabrication skills. I just cut everything with a hacksaw and bolted it together. It works great. I do have a few little things to fix to get the bugs out of it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/ravinerat/Skidoo/DSC00196.jpg)
Hope some of these ideas help you get started.
RR
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Here is a few closer up pics of the rack Bart. I just read you were looking for them in another post.
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RR
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I just picked up the sled today! The sport bumper does seem solid for a auger rack. Never gave a thought to weight distribution or clearance for removing the hood. The speed rack is not doable as a trap rack for the rear, basically junk. The tunnel rail system seem nice though.
RR, you seem like a guy that has done it all with auger racks! Do you have closeup pics of the last rack, looks pretty good for a guy with no fabrication skills. I thinking of incorporating #1 and #3 with the last one?
I do have a hitch but as for the sled rack I want it on a rack off the ice. When I picked it up the sled today, after inspecting the speed rack and tunnel rail I odered extra pins and studs for a sled rack to work with the tunnel rail? Maybe, it maybe a little too much of a challenge?
Thanks for the info and ideas!
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Nice! is that velcro straps that hold the auger on the motor end? Great design, removed you would ever now it was on there.
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That's the Mad Dog auger rack, it's two velcro straps on the handles and a rubber fork and bungee on the auger bit. I had the same one on the back of my old quad (now waiting for me to build a similar rack on my machine) and it works great.
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The Mad Dog is a great holder and sure made things simple. I actually have no experience making auger racks except for the sewer pipe one. I thought long and hard. Gathered info from all over the net. Talked to the guy with the Green Grandtouring. I really didn't want to cut into the tunnel and add reinforcement. His was by far the nicest. The weight of the motor really puts alot of stress on the holder. You need something to support the power head or you could bend your shaft. Once you get going down the ice there can be lots of up and down movement of the power head depeending on ice conditions. It's all trial and error to find out what works. My design actually took me two seasons to figure it out while sitting on the ice. One day it just came to me. I have no heat exchangers under my tunnel so drilling into the cargo area was no big deal. You still have to watch the weight and stress on the cargo area as it is only rated for 50 lbs and can break.
There are some other things you could do. For the race Cains Quest some have had front racks made for gear and stuff. I'll post some of the pics I have of those sleds when I get home tonight. Some times it doesn't cost that much to have something custom made compared to all the money you spend on trial and error.
RR
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Hee is the pics I was talking about. They beef up their sleds for this race in Labrador. Tehy have a certian amount of gear they have to carry. I would guess it would cost less than $200 to make some of this stuff. You just need the idea and their are lots of small welding shops who could do the job. I have a few friends who would like nothing better than to practice their welding skills on my projects at my cost.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/ravinerat/Skidoo/post-4301-1198246291-1.jpg)
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RR
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A little over the top, but maybe not? I do want to carry a shovel along and the tow strap. Thanks again for the info/pics.
I also dropped the seat off at an auto upholsterer to shorten the seat(remove the rear portion) to make more room for the ProTrap. Once I get it back I can start planning on how to make the rack for it, until then I'll be consentrating on the auger rack.
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Can you post a pic of your sled? It would help with ideas. There is a system out there called Ryan's Rack. Think it may be for a quad. Why not tow your trap? it's what I have always done.
RR
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Bart -
Check out this thread http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=153822.msg1504603#msg1504603 (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=153822.msg1504603#msg1504603).
It may give you some ideas (or not).
MD
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Lots of good ideas there.
RR
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Finally I got some pics, I was waiting for the seat to get back. I had the seat altered to allow more room for the Shelter. Someone on another site had pics of a "L" shape rack. I really like the "L" rack idea! I'm thinking of trying to adapt that type of rack to the Tunnel Rails.
I had the track studded and a hitch in case a need to have a Otter Sled in tow also.
The Sport Bumper in the front is where I plan on working off of with an auger rack? I have a 8" Nils power auger, It's pretty long. I have some concerns of the length and the Sport Bumper being narrow? How much overhang is too much? And is supporting the power head(engine) necessary?
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this is what I did to my sled at the end of last season right before the Orr trip.
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg274/juano29/sledmod005.jpg)
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For the 500.00 I have in to the Sled and the mod's it works great.
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juan arellano, I like your shelter rack, quality all the way. As far as the auger rack, I only considered to mount the auger over the hood, yours sitting further out front has me rethinking a few things. Do you have more pics showing how the auger rack is mounted to the sled or how the auger engine is secured to the rack? Thanks for the pics and the great ideas!
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what I did is made a better bumper and mounted it to the bumper. the powerhead sits in the rack snug and them i strap it down.
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I forgot to say that I will take the sled 50 to 60 mph across the lake and have never lost anything.
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Nice sled Bart. There are tons of things you can do with that now the seat is shorter. Are the heat exchangers under the tunnel or the running boards?
Nice set up you got Juan. Does the trap placed that high change the triangle of stability much. How about crossing pressure cracks. We basicly have to jump them here.
The reason I ran my Auger length wise was for accessing the back lakes on narrow trails. If it were across the front of the back it may be too wide for some of the lakes I get into.
RR
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Nice sled Bart. There are tons of things you can do with that now the seat is shorter. Are the heat exchangers under the tunnel or the running boards?
Heat exchangers? I'm new to snowmobiles, I don't have a clue? I do know it is fan cooled and there is nothing under the running boards. I plan on incorporate the tunnel rail system for securing the shelter rack, just as Artic Cat uses it for other accessories.
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Liquid cooled sleds have aluminum coolers (Heat Exchangers) mounted in the tunnel or running boards to cool the engine by contact with the snow thrown up by the track, they do the same thing as the radiator in your car. Fan cooled sleds like yours just use a fan driven off the crank shaft and shroud to cool the engine, much simpler and keeps the weight down.
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CMMahy, Thanks for the info. I was told fan-cooled engine would be better for sleds on ice often, any opinion on that or advice with the fan-cooled sled while on ice?
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Yes, for the most part, fan cooled sleds are better as ice fishing machines, especially in low snow situations. About the only time it's better to have a liquid cooled machine is when there's lots of deep snow and slush, and the temperatures are well above zero. A liquid cooled machine will remain cool, using the loose snow/slush being thrown around inside the tunnel for cooling, but a fan cooled sled can over heat due to the higher air temps and large load on the engine from trying to power through the slush.
On the flip side, on a cold day with little to no loose snow on the lake, the fan cooled sled will run like a champ, but the liquid cooled sled will start to overheat. I've run my studded, fan cooled Tundra on almost glare ice last season several times, and the only issue was the lack of snow to lubricate the sliders. Any of my old liquid cooled machines would have overheated before I got to my fishing spot.
I'm sure you'll be very happy with the new sled!
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thanks for the info, it's a great help.
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cmmahy is bang on. I have run both liquid and fan and my liquid would always over heat in low snow condiitions. Even driving from patch to patch of snow really didn't help. You also need the speed in the liquid to throw the snow up on the heat exchangers. The old fan cooled can run slow and still keep cool providing the temps are cool. The only reason I was asking about the exchangers is I have seen people drill holes in their tunnel and right through the exchangers. A costly mistake. Your sled will do you fine for icefishing. So why to you want to put it up on a rack instead of tow it? Lets see some pics when you get your setup done.
RR
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I want a rack to reduce wear on the tub and it is suppose to be better for the equipment being carried in the tub. Also and the main reason is, I plan to have everything loaded(shelter and auger) on the sled and able to drive on and off the trailer without all the loading and unloading everytime. That's the plan anyway?
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With a good pair of runners on the bottom there is no wear on the tub. My tub just pulls of of the truck, attach the bar with two pins and away I go. I can be rough on the gear but I have gotten around that with rod cases and my Vex usually rides on the sled with me.
RR
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Yes, for the most part, fan cooled sleds are better as ice fishing machines, especially in low snow situations. About the only time it's better to have a liquid cooled machine is when there's lots of deep snow and slush, and the temperatures are well above zero. A liquid cooled machine will remain cool, using the loose snow/slush being thrown around inside the tunnel for cooling, but a fan cooled sled can over heat due to the higher air temps and large load on the engine from trying to power through the slush.
On the flip side, on a cold day with little to no loose snow on the lake, the fan cooled sled will run like a champ, but the liquid cooled sled will start to overheat. I've run my studded, fan cooled Tundra on almost glare ice last season several times, and the only issue was the lack of snow to lubricate the sliders. Any of my old liquid cooled machines would have overheated before I got to my fishing spot.
I'm sure you'll be very happy with the new sled!
I read earlier on another thread about, scratchers? I was thinking of getting them for lubricating the sliders? Can they help some on cooling a fan-cooled engine?
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No, all they do is kick up ice chips and a bit of snow onto the track sliders and cooling fins on the heat exchangers or under the tunnel and/or under the side foot rests for the liquid cooled motors. The engine mounted fan takes care of air cooled motors, never had any problems with the small sled I had. The do help on the sliders on any machine.
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No, all they do is kick up ice chips and a bit of snow onto the track sliders and cooling fins on the heat exchangers or under the tunnel and/or under the side foot rests for the liquid cooled motors. The engine mounted fan takes care of air cooled motors, never had any problems with the small sled I had. The do help on the sliders on any machine.
Exactly! I'll probably be installing a set on my sled as well, depending on how much snow we get in the next month or so.
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Those are some good ideas! I also just got myself a snowmobile for my ice travels. Juan, I really like that auger setup...I may have to contact you to check that out, looks really nice.
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CMMahy and Fisherman1, Thanks again for the info, you guys are great! I'll be getting scratchers for the sliders...
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I have ice scratchers on my sled but rarely have to use them. They do help in liow snow conditions. You really have to remember to disengague them before going in reverse.
RR
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What style do you have mounted on your sled? I'm debating between the running board mounted ones, or the new cable style ones from Yamaha with the replaceable carbide tips, and mounting them on my belly pan.
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Mine mount on the running boards. Kind of expensive for what they are. I saw a video for some new type of scratchers. It is basicly a nut and bolt in the rear of your ski. You drill a whole at the back of your ski. Drop a bolt down through and add a bolt and washer from the underside of the ski to hold it on. So the head of the bolt is on the top of the ski. The video shows it working great. It is an inexpensive way I would do it next time especially if I were just running the lakes/ice.
RR
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I had seen the bolt method, but I'm not sure they'll work on my sled at the slow speeds I travel.
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I think your right that at slow speed there may not be enough snow/ice kicked up. An inexpensive way to find out though.
RR
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An inexpensive way to find out though.
Very true, odds are I'll give it a shot and see how well it performs.
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My shelter rack is completed! Also added windshield storage bag and RAM GPS mount. Kinda stalled on the auger rack, which is next.
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That looks like a great setup! :thumbsup: :tipup:
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Bart -
Does your trailer close with the rack on?
Also, a word of warning, don't make your auger rack too tall. ;)
I really like being able to transport my auger on the rack in the trailer.
MD
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Mainedog, So far all fits in with the trailer closed up. Like you I want to have the auger on board all closed up. I want to be able to drive on/drive off all loaded for the ice. I plan on the auger rack working off the front bumper. I'm also placing another tie down in the center of the trailer to accommodate the auger loaded on the sled.
Thanks again to everyone for sharing their experience and information, it was a great help with design and planning. A little stalled on the auger rack, any ideas? One question I do have, should the auger be supported at the handle and the chuck(engine/auger connection) or is just at the chuck sufficient support for the engine end of the auger?
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When you say chuck, you mean the very end of the bit?
If so, I've heard that's a bad idea. It puts too much stress on the gears, etc.
when bouncing around. You need to support the motor some how.
I only put the motor on when going slow, short distances--once at the fishing
location.
MD
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The chuck is where the auger is attached to the engine, same as a drill bit is placed in a drill.
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Nice Rig! Looks like you need some ski slides and a track mat for your trailer? Your studs and carbides will tear that floor up pretty quick.
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Looks Great!
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looks pretty asome so far. The more support for your auger the less chance of bending the shaft. The more comfortable you get with the gear on the faster you'll go. It can really get quite bumpy.
RR
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I got the scratchers on, should help on the bare ice. Ski slides and track mat as JIMC ND recommended are next, thanks again all for sharing their advice and experience.
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Ski slides and track mat are in place, a thanks out to JIMC ND. The auger rack may have to be a warmer weather project...
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That is one sweet setup Bart!
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First problems with the reverse, then speedometer, a Safety Alert Notice...
Yesterday I finally had the Safety Alert Notice(A-arm bracket)corrected? after three weeks. The speedometer was also replaced.
Today it wouldn't start, the Starter is shot. A new one is ordered and maybe in next week. So much for a reliable machine...
BASED ON MY EXPRIENCE MY ADVICE STANDS, DON'T BUY ARTIC CAT!
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Sorry to hear that Bart, after you've spent so much time getting this thing all set up, and I'm sure considerable excitement. That's pretty bad for a brand new sled to have all those problems. Hope it gets fixed and this is the last of the headaches.....cuz that is still a sweet setup for ice fishing!
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First time on the ice today, it's the cat's a$$. Can't wait to get an auger rack on the front bumper, a little spot for the scoop, shovel and flasher outside of the shanty too...
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Fantastic!
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Sorry to hear about your sled issues. Two of the three new sleds I have purchased, I have had "issues" with the first year. Once those issues were worked out, the sleds were very reliable. Hope this holds for you. Once you get a sled set up to your liking, it can really make fishing more enjoyable and productive.
MD
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I finally got the Auger Rack done. I also added a bait bucket bracket, there's one on each side. I am hoping to find a small/taller bucket that will fill one bracket, for the scoop and a couple of rods. It all tucks in well in the trailer, can't wait to get her on the ice!
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That looks slick! Nice work! Brian
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Great set up. How well does that stud pattern work on bare ice? I've been researching them for my new sled, but don't have enough cash to do every row like is suggested. I might be able to swing every other row like you did. I'm going to get the same scratchers, I know I'd end up ruining the old style going into reverse without lifting them.
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Wow, great setup. Wish that I could get something going like that.
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Very nice Bart.
Please post some pics that show how the rack is mounted to the sled.
Can you still open the hood on the sled with the rack on it?
MD
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Thats one sweet setup you have there!
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VERY nice!!! :tipup:
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stevek, the guy at the dealership installed the studs. He said it would be fine as long as did not gun it real hard from a stand still. Not a problem for me, I ride it like an old man.
As far as the scratchers, the same reason, it would have been only a matter of time before I ruined the other type.
Mainedog, The four uprights and the cross beam that make up the rack are welded to a stock sport bumper that is installed as recommended. The hood pops right off, no problems.
An accessible area for a rod holder and the flasher.
Thanks all, bart
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Great job Bart. I've been following your project with intrest. My T570 uses the same chassis yours does and I was wondering about the bumper being strong enough to mount an auger on. Beautiful work.
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Thanks for the reply, I'll be riding mine about the same way. I may get the same stud pattern in mine this year and add the other half when I have more cash. Good luck this year, great job on the rig.
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Thanks for the reply, I'll be riding mine about the same way. I may get the same stud pattern in mine this year and add the other half when I have more cash. Good luck this year, great job on the rig.
No problem.
A lot of nice people on this site have done the same for me, actually have helped with the mods and have educated me alot about snowmobiles.
Thanks again to all, bart
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Just ordered a fresh battery and a battery tender to extend the life of the new battery. Ordering a tank bag this week also, still working on a rod holder.
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Finally got my sled on the ice, mechanically everything went well without a single hitch! First it started, with a turn of the key... I added a Lowerance Mark 4 with the Navionics chip which is pretty nice and used the scratchers. Had the stud pattern completed too. Fish-wise I got skunked, but still a nice day on the ice.
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Looking good Bart! I'm giving some serious thought to trying to get my Fish Trap up off the ground like yours after my last trip. We had some deep snow and slush to get though before running 8 miles down a lake through 18" of loose snow, and I found my trusty Tundra just didn't quite have the power to drag the Fish Trap. Definitely a project for the off-season though.
Thanks for sharing!
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After watching a few guys dragging their Fish Traps and seeing some with damage, I'm glad mine is off the ground.
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience, you have been a great help to me!
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Looks like a good setup. Have fun with it. Happy trails.... D Hutt
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Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience, you have been a great help to me!
My pleasure Bart, that's what this site is for after all! :tipup:
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that is a real nice set up you have there sir
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vtshantyman, thanks.
I'm currently working on a rod holder...
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Everything has been operating well. The rod holders and a bucket bracket didn't get done last year, this year hoping to get them done. I want to get a larger sled for tip-up excursions and possibly a wireless winch, just in case. The sled and trailer gets a thorough cleaning and the preventive maintenance at the end of this season. PLEASE NOTE: rigid tow bar and helmet! ;D
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I just bought a snow mobile and would like to see more mods with pictures any post would help Thanks
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I did a little reorganization of my pictures on photobucket.com, must have cancelled all my pics?
I had the seat shortened
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Tow hitch and studs
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Shanty Rack
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Auger Rack
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Ice Scratchers
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Centered the trailer mount, track pad and ski tracks(double sled trailer). Added track pad to the right side for better footing for myself.
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It all fits loaded in the trailer. Note: the bait bucket holder, one on each side.
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Its been working great on the ice, also note the Lowerance Mark 4, GPS/ Fish Finder with Navonics chip.
Good luck with your project, looking forward to pics too!
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Bart .. seen your pictures in your past posts...what a great job and inspiration to others ...I have a Yamaha Kodiak I put a Shappell ATV shelter rack on the rear rack on last year and a file crate mounted to the front ....holds a 5 gal bucket for the bait bucket and my tip up hole covers ...my auger rests atop the front rack with Kolpin rubber gun grips. .its great to have a dedicated place for everything that secure ...
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That's a really sweet set up Bart!! Well done! :clap:
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That's a great set up and good looking snowmobile.
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I did a little reorganization of my pictures on photobucket.com, must have cancelled all my pics?
I had the seat shortened
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Tow hitch and studs
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Shanty Rack
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Auger Rack
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Sled/P1010020.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Sled/P1010020.jpg.html)
Ice Scratchers
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Sled/P1010064.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Sled/P1010064.jpg.html)
Centered the trailer mount, track pad and ski tracks(double sled trailer). Added track pad to the right side for better footing for myself.
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Sled/P1010003.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Sled/P1010003.jpg.html)
It all fits loaded in the trailer. Note: the bait bucket holder, one on each side.
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Sled/P1010028-1.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Sled/P1010028-1.jpg.html)
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Ice%20fishing/P1010039_zpsb1ba2aaa.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Ice%20fishing/P1010039_zpsb1ba2aaa.jpg.html)
Its been working great on the ice, also note the Lowerance Mark 4, GPS/ Fish Finder with Navonics chip.
Good luck with your project, looking forward to pics too!
What are the ice scracher things for on your rear suspention?
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This may shed some light on it http://www.snowmobile.com/products/product-test-ice-scratchers-for-flatlanders-1711.html
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They scratch at packed snow and ice to throw ice and snow on the track to help keep sliders lubricated.
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Ice%20fishing/P1010048_zps0d6e04f2.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Ice%20fishing/P1010048_zps0d6e04f2.jpg.html)
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This may shed some light on it http://www.snowmobile.com/products/product-test-ice-scratchers-for-flatlanders-1711.html
Thanks H.D. That is a pretty cool. Even though I rode snomobiles for 30+ years now, i have never saw anything like that before. Thanks for posting that!
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They scratch at packed snow and ice to throw ice and snow on the track to keep sliders lubricated.
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Ice%20fishing/P1010048_zps0d6e04f2.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Ice%20fishing/P1010048_zps0d6e04f2.jpg.html)
Thank you also Bart. I think i might have to look into a set of those. We usually have plenty of snow and slush on the lakes in northern Wisconsin, but ive smelled that nasty smell of melting slides before. ;D
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Nice setup Bart thanks for posting it looks like I have some good ideas from you guys for my artic cat sled
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(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Ice%20fishing/P1010039_zpsb1ba2aaa.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Ice%20fishing/P1010039_zpsb1ba2aaa.jpg.html)
Its been working great on the ice, also note the Lowerance Mark 4, GPS/ Fish Finder with Navonics chip.
Good luck with your project, looking forward to pics too!
Bart--I'm curious, why the shack rack when you're already pulling at least one sled (I presume the Otter is for storage and is not a shack)? Wouldn't it have been easier/less expensive just to daisy chain your sleds at that point? Alternatively, wouldn't the Clam hold items that you have in your storage sled to keep from having to drag a sled?
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About 90% of the time I don't have the Otter sled in tow. I only use that sled when doing a little tip-up fishing for Northern Pike and Lake Trout. I guess my equipment runneth over... ;D
Seriously, I have done with and without the Otter sled setting up tip ups, but... I usually trace out a contour or area I want to set up the tip-ups with the snowmobile using the GPS with the Navionics. Then with the Otter loaded with everything I need to set up the tip-ups, I go from one location too another. It's convenient, lighter, more quiet and lets the area settle down quicker. Having the shanty up on the sled is simply better for the tub and equipment.
The hitch is handy too, you might catch me towing someone else's equipment from time to time... ;)
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About 90% of the time I don't have the Otter sled in tow. I only use that sled when doing a little tip-up fishing for Northern Pike and Lake Trout. I guess my equipment runneth over... ;D
Seriously, I have done with and without the Otter sled setting up tip ups, but... I usually trace out a contour or area I want to set up the tip-ups with the snowmobile using the GPS with the Navionics. Then with the Otter loaded with everything I need to set up the tip-ups, I go from one location too another. It's convenient, lighter, more quiet and lets the area settle down quicker. Having the shanty up on the sled is simply better for the tub and equipment.
The hitch is handy too, you might catch me towing someone else's equipment from time to time... ;)
Gotcha. Makes sense.
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Definitely like me if I pulled everything I have I would look like a train LOL ;D
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Just wondering where you got the rear rack that attaches to the rails?
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I designed the Shelter rack and had it made by a Fabricator, the same with the auger rack.
Tmac, don't be afraid to ask, there were a lot of awesome members that helped me with my project. Good luck with your project and keep us posted!
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Are those just hitch pins you used to secure the two together?
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I designed the rack to mount with the existing tunnel rail system that came with the sled. The pins are stock, they came with the Arctic Cat Tunnel Rails, I think I did have to order a couple of extras? It has been working well.
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Saw this and thought I post it here as I didn't want to start a new thread/topic
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That is a pretty good set up. I want to do a similar video on my set up, ice just hasn't cooperated long enough yet. Thanks for sharing!
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I finally got the rod holders finished. I also added a tank bag, re-enforced it to support a flasher.
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Sled/P6200023_zpsehhh9np1.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Sled/P6200023_zpsehhh9np1.jpg.html)
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Sled/P6200028_zps28mwxlui.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Sled/P6200028_zps28mwxlui.jpg.html)
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg22/bart607/Sled/P6220014_zpsmdcqjxmb.jpg) (http://s244.photobucket.com/user/bart607/media/Sled/P6220014_zpsmdcqjxmb.jpg.html)
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Very nice set up Bart makes you look like a professional ice fisherman. Dave Genz better watch his back.
Steve
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Very nice set up Bart makes you look like a professional ice fisherman. Dave Genz better watch his back.
Steve
Thanks, Steve! I don't trail ride, it is strictly an ice fishing machine.
Mr. Genz is pretty much safe, his legacy will be insurmountable. And unlike me, he knows how to catch fish! ;D
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Bart I think both of us would be better ice fishermen if we could spend the time out on the ice that Mr. Genz does each year. ;D :whistle:
Steve
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I just heard photobucket restored pictures, I had to check...
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Still needs some modifications but the jist of it is complete. Made out of an old ladder tree stand and had my boss weld the front rack. Not gonna win any beauty contests but she's functional!
https://ibb.co/kdXKBL
https://ibb.co/eG0T5f
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Still working on it, but this is the first draft. Since I don't have a metal shop, I use baltic birch plywood, glue, screws, and varnish. Since this photo I have added a holster for the slush scoop in easy reach, one for my knot tier, and for my eyeball remover. I don't use a shelter, and this is everything I need to chase perch on Lake Cascade. The Tundra has a prefect recess to hold my phone and a power brick so I can run Navionics and navigate with lake maps.
(https://i.postimg.cc/v4FgP5Qs/fish-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4FgP5Qs)
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looks good :o go with what u can work with , wood is light strong readily available and easy to work with . nice setup