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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #30 on: Dec 20, 2020, 11:07 PM »
I fish for fun not to eat...
 
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #31 on: Dec 21, 2020, 02:08 AM »
I typically only fish for Lake Trout through the ice.  Very seldom do I keep one.  For me, I am after a PB ever time I fish.  Obviously, it doesn't always happen but that is what drive me to fish along with being outside and taking it all in.  Lake Trout in my area are "managed" but the fishery has taken a beating.  Given that the trout I catch can be 15-25 years old, and I'm not starving, I release them.  I fish every weekend and I would like to see the fishery continue for generations to come.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #32 on: Dec 21, 2020, 05:01 AM »
I spend a lot of hours in my dark/spear house every year.

Most days I don't even bring the spear, for me it's the enjoyment of watching the fish. Almost every year I see fish in the 20# class come to my decoy and eventually leave, it never gets old.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #33 on: Dec 21, 2020, 05:19 AM »
And I'm good with frozen fish. The secret? 2 dont's...over rinse too long after cleaning and NEVER soak in salt water. Zip lock freezer bags 3/4 full of water...burp the air...into the freezer. Re-rinse a little after thawing. Good for about a year. Never had a complaint from those I gave to or fixed for.

Same here. Never had an issue.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #34 on: Dec 21, 2020, 05:27 AM »
A guy from Colorado sends me this picture of about 13 trout between 10-14Ē. He tells me that is was his buddy out there and his buddy sent him a picture, and he was sharing this picture with everyone??? Thoughts? So... I explained to him that itís always fortunate for the one guy whoís knows all the rules for them not to apply to him.

In my opinion, if your going to catch it to eat it, play by the rules. Yes it is annoying when your having a great day on the water, but conservation and not over harvesting a lake it just as important. CO has the worst influx of people and the reservoirs are suffering big time from all of these people, not playing by the rules.

Just my opinion on catch and release

I have to put my faith in harvest numbers being set by the biologist in charge of the bodies of water, as to over harvest. When people are not following those regulations then they are breaking a law and thats not anything that I am endorsing.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #35 on: Dec 21, 2020, 05:31 AM »
I spend a lot of hours in my dark/spear house every year.

Most days I don't even bring the spear, for me it's the enjoyment of watching the fish. Almost every year I see fish in the 20# class come to my decoy and eventually leave, it never gets old.

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Never done this BUT... I could see why you do that. It does sound cool :)

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #36 on: Dec 21, 2020, 06:12 AM »
I spend a lot of hours in my dark/spear house every year.

Most days I don't even bring the spear, for me it's the enjoyment of watching the fish. Almost every year I see fish in the 20# class come to my decoy and eventually leave, it never gets old.

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Makes me really miss fishing from a spear house. I never speared much, but angling from one was always a good time... like watching an aquarium.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #37 on: Dec 21, 2020, 06:26 AM »
Yes spearing is great.although ive never seen a huge northern in the hole I decided when i first started to pass on all the trophies and spear the eaters.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #38 on: Dec 21, 2020, 08:00 AM »
I catch and release most my fish typically, I really only eat fish during the hard water season,  we cook our fish generally right as it comes out of the hole. My daughter enjoys eating fish more than I, for her its about catching a fish to eat she hates going home empty handed!

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #39 on: Dec 21, 2020, 08:47 AM »
A limit of panfish does not go a long way in this household.i got to fight the heathens off to get a few fish in my belly!!lol when my kid was younger i could get by with 15 fish but now the wife and kid love fish and we eat a limit of fish for dinner easily.

We eat a lot of fish also. add in 3 of my kids and 4 grand children and a limit doesn't go far. everyone like to come over when I mention I am making fish. I also do a lot of selective harvest only keep certain size fish along with rotating lakes so not to over pressure fish in any one lake.
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #40 on: Dec 21, 2020, 10:25 AM »
I know guys who fill their freezers with stocked trout every spring.  Then a week before deer season they throw out all the trout to "make room for venison".

A week before trout season they throw out all the venison to "make room for trout".

I don't fish or hunt with idiots like that...
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #41 on: Dec 21, 2020, 10:30 AM »
I know guys who fill their freezers with stocked trout every spring.  Then a week before deer season they throw out all the trout to "make room for venison".

A week before trout season they throw out all the venison to "make room for trout".

I don't fish or hunt with idiots like that...

Sounds like an enormous waste. Perhaps they give it to friends/relatives or at least a food program.
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #42 on: Dec 21, 2020, 10:31 AM »
Drummer, I couldnít agree with you more. This is a definite violation of the regulations, (unless there were several others fishing with him), and should be addressed. Itís people like that who take more than theyíre entitled to, and deplete the resources. I hate hearing that!

For me... What dude, shows other dudes, pictures of fish he buddy dude caught?... Has it really come down to this?
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #43 on: Dec 21, 2020, 03:45 PM »
I know guys who fill their freezers with stocked trout every spring.  Then a week before deer season they throw out all the trout to "make room for venison".

A week before trout season they throw out all the venison to "make room for trout".

I love deer hunting and could shoot a dozen if I wanted to but we can only eat 4 a year, so thats all we shoot.
Fish? .... I can eat everything we catch in one day, any day. We stop fishing when we catch a limit or catch enough to eat + 2 meals in the freezer.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #44 on: Dec 21, 2020, 03:47 PM »
Sounds like an enormous waste. Perhaps they give it to friends/relatives or at least a food program.

Agreed whole heatedly.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #45 on: Dec 21, 2020, 04:15 PM »
I can understand releasing fish.  Especially if you fish a lot.  But, I only fish 2 or 3 times a week.  We only eat fish once or twice a week.  However, even if I limit out when I go, I'm not going to throw the fish back. 
So if I understand you correctly, you are hereby openly admitting that you are taking home more fish than you are allowed (more than your legal limit)?
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #46 on: Dec 21, 2020, 06:04 PM »
So if I understand you correctly, you are hereby openly admitting that you are taking home more fish than you are allowed (more than your legal limit)?

I went back to read the original post, the whole post and nothing but the post, and that's what it came across as... SNITCH..... are you saying that if you catch your limit - youll continue to keep fish because you give them to other people who don't fish?  what are you sayin!!!!!!?
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #47 on: Dec 21, 2020, 06:49 PM »
I donít find fish that has been frozen to taste nearly as good as fresh fish. So I only keep what I can eat that or next day, subject to limits rules. All the rest are released.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #48 on: Dec 21, 2020, 06:50 PM »
I went back to read the original post, the whole post and nothing but the post, and that's what it came across as... SNITCH..... are you saying that if you catch your limit - youll continue to keep fish because you give them to other people who don't fish?  what are you sayin!!!!!!?
Funny...
I read the post (the whole post) and didnt see that he was saying that at all.
Maybe I am wrong but I always understand that (when reading) a persons mind interprets what is said to that persons state of mind at the time. ;)

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #49 on: Dec 21, 2020, 06:59 PM »
Here's my take:

For the most part those folks fish ALOT. AND often they catch fish. I know the "fill the freezer" mentality. Usta be there. Then, sure enough, every coupla years I'd find some freezer burned hunk(s) of fish jammed in back or the bottom not fit for human consumption so it would get pitched. Can't feed it to the pets, good as I am, they don't know how to look out for any stray bones. My new personal rules became if I've got two meals in the freezer it's C&R unless I'm eating that catch fresh in the next 24 hours. Just me.

Additionally, there are possession limits. That's the total amount of fish you can have in your possession at any given time. In WI it's one daily bag limit plus that same amount in your fridge, freezer, cooler. where ever. That means if the daily bag limit for walleyes is 5, I can catch 5 walleyes and take 'em home. I can do that again tomorrow too. BUT if I put 'em all in the freezer and I go fishing again I would be violating to keep any of my walleye catch.
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Back to the celebrity anglers: Since they have reputations to maintain how would that look if they not only catch fish but a ticket for violating whatever at where ever? Not so hot. So C&R is really necessary for lots of those folks. Of course they promote C&R as well and yep, it's sound silly to folks like us that have time where we struggle to catch fish with any regularity. But we're not them.

I got hollered at for keeping a 22" walleye during the spawning run one year. "You're killing millions of walleyes!" It was the only fish we caught all weekend and we only made the one trip that year. Sure, I was the bad guy but it was ONE FISH. C&R is a slippery slope both for folks that do or don't. Usually I just try and mind my own business. If someone doesn't like it I consider that their problem.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #50 on: Dec 21, 2020, 07:34 PM »
I watch a lot of ice fishing videos on Youtube and I see a LOT of catch and release videos.
Jen and I are always sitting there asking each other why. I mean... It wouldn't even occur to us, unless they were not keepers or were breeders.

But all the time, we are seeing eaters being tossed all day long and none kept too many time.
We just dont get it.

Anyone here that can explain this to me, I would listen with an open mind but I honestly just dont get it.


I'll never understand it I fish so I can eat them a whole lot cheaper than buying fish.
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #51 on: Dec 22, 2020, 08:51 AM »

I'll never understand it I fish so I can eat them a whole lot cheaper than buying fish.

Now that is very debatable.

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« Reply #52 on: Dec 22, 2020, 09:06 AM »
Now that is very debatable.

In fact, cheap fish is a VERY tough sell, even with ice fishing. Add softwater and $50,000 boats and the fish at the supermarket becomes a very good deal.

Then, there is the cost of a pound of venison to consider, fully amortized...on second thought, let's not.
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #53 on: Dec 22, 2020, 09:08 AM »
Now that is very debatable.

That's the same logic I use on my wife for why I have to hunt so much.  "We're saving so much money by killing our own food!"  We just don't talk about the gear/ gas/ time involved...

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #54 on: Dec 22, 2020, 09:17 AM »
In fact, cheap fish is a VERY tough sell, even with ice fishing. Add softwater and $50,000 boats and the fish at the supermarket becomes a very good deal.

Then, there is the cost of a pound of venison to consider, fully amortized...on second thought, let's not.

I own a $600 boat I bought 3 years ago. I have maybe $1000 in ice fishing gear. I fish 5-7 days a week during the winter. I try to limit everytime and I take kids out as well so I'm the end I think fishing and hunting is alot cheaper then buying fish at the store or beef. Not to mention the look my my kids faces when we are crushing the fish PRICELESS
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #55 on: Dec 22, 2020, 09:26 AM »
I saw possession limits mentioned a few times. They do vary widely by state so make sure you check it. Not just in what the number is but what actually applies to the limit. In some states, fish you have at your home in your freezer count towards that limit. In others, its only fish you have with you in the field or in transport and fish in your freezer at home do not count. Idaho is that way for example. We have a 3X the daily limit for possession but fish at home in your freezer on your property do not apply to that limit.

I catch and release exclusively during the spring-summer-fall. I am mostly fly fishing and hiking up and down a river or up to a mountain lake so I just don't bother with it. When ice fishing, I used to always keep limits of trout and kokanee and would keep every decent sized fish of crappie, perch, bluegill, etc. But after having some long nights of cleaning, and struggling to get it all eaten in a decent time frame, I have scaled back a bit. I don't keep limits of trout anymore but will keep a few here and there depending on the quality of the fish and what I have at home (I also raise rainbow trout for a living so I can get a box of fillets pretty much anytime). I have gotten more selective on the panfish only keeping certain size fish and imposing self limits on numbers. I just enjoy fishing a lot so while being able to keep some fish is nice, its not the be all end all for me.

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #56 on: Dec 22, 2020, 10:11 AM »
You want to know what is real madness? Using smelt for bait. I will bet you ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS you will never catch anything using smelt that will taste better than the smelt itself. MADNESS I TELL YOU!
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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #57 on: Dec 22, 2020, 10:25 AM »

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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #58 on: Dec 22, 2020, 10:32 AM »
In fact, cheap fish is a VERY tough sell, even with ice fishing. Add softwater and $50,000 boats and the fish at the supermarket becomes a very good deal.

Then, there is the cost of a pound of venison to consider, fully amortized...on second thought, let's not.


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Re: Catch & Release ... WHO & WHY?
« Reply #59 on: Dec 22, 2020, 10:54 AM »
I have to put my faith in harvest numbers being set by the biologist in charge of the bodies of water, as to over harvest. When people are not following those regulations then they are breaking a law and thats not anything that I am endorsing.



The Atlantic Cod fishery did, too.

The same people who say this are out badmouthing them for lowering deer numbers and the same folks that are complaining about how the fishing isnít as good as it used to be.

Iím not objecting to keeping fish, just saying that keeping everything you catch and being admittedly clueless to the purpose of C&R is a problem in and of itself.

 



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