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i seem to be losing the big one right at the hole they come in easy then when you get them to the hole they seem to lay flat along ice surface and are hard to get nose pointed up hole? Any ideas would help
Gaff them in the bottom lip and pull them up. If you have a gaff with a barb on it file off the barb so you don't hurt the fish and make sure you stay away from the gills.
x2 Is gaffing pike a regional thing. I grew up in south east wisconsin and was taught how to gaff as soon as I was taugh how to run a tip up 6 or 7 years old. I moved to the other side of the state and I don't know if I have seen a gaff besides mine.