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In my flame king kit, says not to leave 20# tank upside down for more than i think 10 minutes at a time
Recalled as the brass where screwed into tank was not tight, replaced or paid back owners. I’m still waiting for mine. I had one good one and one bad. I been using the good one and love it , easy to fill. Supposed to start selling them again shortly !!
In another thread I had posted how I couldn't find the Flame King kit for refilling the 1 lb canisters and I decided to make my own. This is just what I did and I'm not suggesting anyone else should.I ordered three parts online. A hose, a shut off valve and a 1 lb canister adapter. The hose is 20" long with one end that goes to the large tank and the other is a male 1/4" threaded NPT. The brass ball valve is a double female 1/4" NPT that is rated for gas and water. The canister adapter is a male 1/4" NPT and female for the canister. I simply put it together using a gas and water rated sealant on the threads.(Image removed from quote.)The next thing I did was to get a schrader valve tool and alter it to work on the pressure relief valve. I removed the pressure relief valve to see exactly what it is and decide how I wanted to relieve pressure while filling. Most people seem to be pulling up on the pin in the valve to relieve canister pressure. This is a safe method as the valve pressure is pre set at the factory and you don't want to alter it. Tool(Image removed from quote.) Pressure Relief Valve(Image removed from quote.) I decided to go another route. I took 4 new, untouched canisters and decided to see how consistent the depth of the valve sat in the canister. I know it would go by spring pressure (not depth) to give the valve the correct resistance or pressure to release. I seated the tool on the first canisters valve and marked it. I compared that to the other three canisters and they were identical. I now had a depth gauge for proper spring tension. I set everything up on my WorkMate. The large tank on top with the hose attached and the smaller 1 lb sat perfectly on the foot rest. I opened the valve on the large tank leaving the ball valve on the hose closed. I opened the pressure relief valve slightly and then opened the ball valve. I opened the pressure relief valve until I heard pressure releasing. The 1 lb tank took about a minute or so to fill. When I saw liquid coming from the relief valve I closed the ball valve and then the pressure relief valve. I removed the canister from the hose. I checked the valve height. Then I weighed it. I did 4 canisters today and it worked great. Also all the canisters came within tenths of an oz of full. If the Flame King kit were available I probably would have just purchased that but this worked great and was easy to work with.(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)(Image removed from quote.)
Esox,Great post and great info. Thanks. Just a follow-up question on the topic.It seems that the Flame King refillable kit would have exactly the same concerns as the system designed by Lone Wolf. As I understand it, the Flame King is certified and approved as "safe."Does the "special valve" on the Flame King somehow eliminate the problems you describe?
seems as tho you could clean them out by removing the pressure relief valve and shoot air in it at the fill port keeping the relief port facing down. you could also add some thin oil and cover the walls and rinse that out too.
Good idea but it wouldn't work. If I remember correctly when I removed the PRV it sat in what I'll call a tube with a hole at the bottom. If you look at the picture of the PRV the stem on the bottom appeared to go through the hole and the "O" ring sealed against the bottom of the tube. I don't know how it is on the fill valve. I cannot check as I don't have any empties .. all my bottles have been filled already.
yep i see it now that you pointed it out. thanks. might be able to go the other way around.
Jay, Home Depot has the kits and the tanks.https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinder-with-Refill-Kit-YSN1LBKT/305539519https://www.homedepot.com/p/Flame-King-1-lb-Refillable-Propane-Cylinder-YSN164/305539511I expect them to come down in price as time goes on, but can’t say for sure.DN
The only thing right in your posting "may" be the 600 WOG valve. The Type 1 hose assembly and the fact you are transferring "liquid" propane inside a building (garage) will not remove your liability if an incident should arise by you or any individual who followed what you show in your post (remember children read these posts too).Key facts about propane;1) It is a colorless,tasteless, odorless gas that has an odorant added to it. 2) Odorant can fade and will not leave the tank at the same rate as propane hence, why low & empty tanks stink more.3) Propane is heavier than air and can accumulate in explosive quantities inside buildings and low areas4) It only takes 3 milli-joules of static energy to ignite propane 5) It takes 6 milli-joules for you to feel the spark.6) It can be explosive in the correct concentrations and conditions.7) Propane has an expansion rate of 270 which means; 1 gallon of liquid equals 270 gallons of burnable vapor From The National Fire Prevention Association (almost all states and local governments use their codes as law) http://nfpa.libsyn.com/food-truck-fire-and-life-safety A 20-gallon tank of propane which is equivalent to 170 sticks of dynamite with its explosive capability. (170 divided by 20 equals the potential equivalent of 8.5 sticks in of dynamite in a 1 pound cylinder) From PHSMA (The Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration is a United States Department of Transportation agency that now regulates DOT 39 cylinders)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2_GhyAw3vM&feature=youtu.beNanny State laws are not designed to protect you from yourself, they are in place to protect others from you!