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Canada => Ice Fishing Alberta CA => Topic started by: big Monkey on Jan 03, 2009, 12:30 PM
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The Marmish Verticle Fishing System is seriously a joke and a bad investment to get into. It reminds me of
the old Rapala plastic rods but even worse. For $15 to $25 you can easily buy a more durable rod and reel with an actual drag and ability to catch more fish. Infact your probably even better off to make your own, cut out a peice of spruce Plywood 3/8 -width 12" to 18"-length, put notches in each end, rap your line and
you got a much more durable investment that costs a lot less.
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I use a Marmish everytime I fish for Perch or Trout and always have great results. I have had mine for over five years now and almost looks llike new. The tip on the end of the rod lets you detect even the smallest or bites. I don't think that the Marmish rod was designed to be used for big fish, and i don't think you are supposed to use the reel for brining up fish. It does had a drap feature, be it a crude on but it works very well on smaller fish. Even fishing for whites can be a blast with the marmish.
Pick one up and try it you might be supprised at what you can feel and what you can see hitting your hook.
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I bought a Quantium 24" Panfish rod it works really well, plus it has a drag in case that accidental pike takes
you for a ride. I paid $26 for this rod, I seen a Marmish at Fishing Hole for $25, its obvious you dont
get what you pay for, do the math its a Poor Investment thats all I got to say!
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you have obviously not tried one then, I have landed large pike on 4lb test as well as burbot. Awesome little rods for sight fishing whites as well as perch. The lures that go with the system are top notch as well. i wouldn't hit the ice with out it.
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Wow Big monkey Have you ever held one ?? ??? They do have drag in them, and the thing i love most about them is that they fit in my coat pocket. :laugh: Try that with a reg rod like you have. A bad investment my arse :P
Try one before you talk smack ::)
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My buddy caught a 17 lb pike on a Marmish. My marmish rods have won me alot of money at derbies. Some like them and some don't but usually the guys that don't like them have never tried them ;)
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Why would you want to put a rod in your pocket, you could do that with a spool of line, a regular fishing
rod is obviously a lot better for the quality and materials you get for your dollar. The Marmish must have a great drag, what a plastic back wind, you can get a drag like that on a stick or spool and put the stick in your pocket, and with the money you didnt wayste on a Marmish you could spend it on something a lot more worth your while, you could buy all kinds of good hooks.
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Your right, a wooden stick has to be the ticket.Way better drag than the Marmish and a superior drag on the stick. stick to what you like, the longer rods do have their ;D place. No question there.
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Yes exactly my point Marmish is junk I am glad u get the picture, that even unraveling a stick is a better investment than the Marmish Vertical Fishing System.
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I'll tell you what Big Monkey, I need a new one soon you can have my old one then you can see what we are talking about. ;)
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The marmish rod is an essential tool for any ice fisherman. It has the ability to land twice the amount of fish if not more compared to a rod. I don't leave home without it!
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Going to have to pick one up and try it just to see what all the fuss is about, can you use normal lures with it or do you have to buy their brand? There must be ones that work best for this type of rig!?
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You can put whatever you want on it, I just don't recomend anything too heavy.
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I got a Marmish for xmas this year and I love it. Haven't tried it for larger species yet but wouldn't hesitate to. Also it does say in the instructions not to use the reel to pull in the fish.
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I have two of them. So many times I out fish the guys that they want to try one. When the bite is light, the Marmish extendable tip will signal the slightest nibble.
No doubt this, seriously a joke and a bad investment thingy has proven itself. Next question they ask is where can I buy one?
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I have tried them, but still prefer the rod and reel, mostly because of the drag system. I have found you can get the same kind of sensitivity with an 18" rod and a spring bobber or a properly weighted slip bobber (with line slide underwater). The rod and reel is more universal IMO for other species as well. Obviosly there are lots of guys that like the Marmish, and that is all that really matters, as you always catch more fish, when you are using equipment you have confidence in.
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Yeah its obvious a rod and reel is a lot better than a Marmish, I am glad some one finally woke
up to reality. I wouldn't want that pile of junk if you gave me a new one I got lots of good rod and
reels.
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For 25 bucks you get the most sensitive fishing device on the market. I use rods when im chasing walleye and pike and stuff because i use heavy jigs but for perch, whites and trout it cannot be beat. You need to have some finesse when fishing with these units, cant just yard the fish in. I bought one when they came out about 6 years ago and caught alot more fish with them. Instead of staring down the hole to see if a fish is gonna bite you can fish more mobile like and you can detect super light bites. I usually have 2 on me at least when im going for perch whites or trout because they are that darn effective. To each their own but these things are good if you take a bit of time to use them.
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Yeah its obvious a rod and reel is a lot better than a Marmish, I am glad some one finally woke
up to reality. I wouldn't want that pile of junk if you gave me a new one I got lots of good rod and
reels.
So you won't even try it? ITS FREE.
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I don't have one yet, but I am about to order one. I fish a portable shack and the advantages to the smaller rod are obvious... No brainer. Without trying one yet, the shorter rod means you can fish closer to the hole instead of having to put yourself against the back of your shelter to get a 24 inch pole over the hole. Secondly... the strike indicator is adjustable and highly sensitive, meaning you can detect the smallest bites, and lastly the ability to place several in your pocket eliminating the need to haul your bucket of poles out there will undoubtably clear out the clutter in a confined area. The landing of fish without a reel is the only disadvantage I can see, but people are claiming it's not that big a deal. Pulling in more fish sounds like a hell of a deal to me. If it doesn't work out it sounds like there are plenty of folks looking for one, and unloading it shouldn't be tough.
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I would like to try one in my shanty. looks great because it is short. not much room in the shappels for setting the hook. I allways hit the flap for the window. I have a couple of short ht poles they work but I am always game to try something new. ;D
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when you hand line the fish up you just cant yard it up throwing line every where. All you need to do is set the hook, pull up some line, set the marmish down and start piling the line up in a small neat pile. Since all the line goes on top of eachother if the fish makes a run it pulls it off the pile and doesnt tangle. Simple really. Dont you have to do the same thing with a stick? :o
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For 25 bucks you get the most sensitive fishing device on the market. I use rods when im chasing walleye and pike and stuff because i use heavy jigs but for perch, whites and trout it cannot be beat. You need to have some finesse when fishing with these units, cant just yard the fish in. I bought one when they came out about 6 years ago and caught alot more fish with them. Instead of staring down the hole to see if a fish is gonna bite you can fish more mobile like and you can detect super light bites. I usually have 2 on me at least when im going for perch whites or trout because they are that darn effective. To each their own but these things are good if you take a bit of time to use them.
FOR $25 YOU CAN BUY YOURSELF A REAL ROD,WITH A REAL DRAG, WITH REAL RESULTS , INFACT YOU COULD PROBABLY
GET A LOT BETTER ROD FOR $15 DOLLARS OR LESS.
USE COMMON SENSE PEOPLE NOT NON SENSE AND COMMERCIALISM, THIS PRODUCT IS A FRAUD!
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I know some people who love them and are very effective with them. As with every tool there are specific applications for specific tools. I think that if you look at the history, and no I haven't, but I'd wager you that these tools were designed for the type of fishing they do over there. If you stop and think about it, unlike tournaments here in the states where heaviest weight/longest length typically win, most of the tournaments that are held over there are won by catching the smallest fish you can. So it would stand to reason that these fishing outfits are perfect for the application.
Now I am not saying you won't or can't catch large fish with them. It is just that it is a tool designed for a specific purpose and teasing up pannies with it is right along those lines.
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FOR $25 YOU CAN BUY YOURSELF A REAL ROD,WITH A REAL DRAG, WITH REAL RESULTS , INFACT YOU COULD PROBABLY
GET A LOT BETTER ROD FOR $15 DOLLARS OR LESS.
USE COMMON SENSE PEOPLE NOT NON SENSE AND COMMERCIALISM, THIS PRODUCT IS A FRAUD!
I don't agree.
I tried Marmish rod this Saturday. I've caught 5 crappies. Bite was deadly slow. On what you call REAL ROD ( St. Crox Premium 28" in my case ) I did not feel a single bite at all.
Even I love my St. Crox also it's for bigger and more active fish not for subttle bites.
Your words sound unprofessional at all because you did not even tried to use Marmish rods.
Sensitivity of Marmish rod, bite indicator and jigs as a system is unbeatable. If you are around Toronto we can go to ice I'll prove it to you.
Igor
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I was not going to get in on this thread, as there appears to be no reasoning with this Big Monkey. The only thing abvious about this thread is that Monkey has never held a marmish and needs to calm down a little.
Why the hate? what could make you so angry about the marmish product? I own a few and have had great results, no it;s not for everyone and not for all situtations, but when the bite is tuff I break mine out.
If you hate somthing to support your claim other then jsut saying it is junk and complaining about the price, then maybe some people will listen to you..
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I wasn't going to argue either, it sounds to me like big monkey has a huge chip for Marmish, and that's OK. I hate my Pak Shack 3. It's a pain in the a$$ in the slightest bit of wind, and I have a heckuva time trying to get it back in the bag with my frozen fingers. With that being said, there may be folks out there that love their Pak Shacks. I hope you do... I have no hate for the company, their product is perfect on a non windy day, and lastly that is only "MY" opinion. Unfortunately in Nebraska we don't get too many non windy days. This criticism is based on my "OWNING THE PRODUCT AND USING IT"!!!! At least be reasonable... Come on big monkey, are you really going to turn down a free marmish and refuse to try it??? Hey partner send it to me, I'll use it, and give an unbiased review based on a legitimate trial. IN CONCLUSION... for those of you ice fishers that build homes, or are hobby wood workers, or maybe into cabinet making and finishing type woodwork... don't ever buy a finishing hammer, or a tack hammer!!! You're an idiot if you do!!!! I own a sledgehammer that cost me $30.00 and the solid construction of this hammer versus my finishing hammer is astonishing. WORSE YET... the finishing hammer was fifteen bucks more. I feel like a moron!!! ....Just a fun little poke... trying to prove a point... don't beat me up to bad!!
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ITS FREE ( and it's in good condition ) I just want to give it a good retirement home home. I'll even pay shipping.
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i,ll take it. never tried one but i did not think i could catch whitefish with treble hooks either.lol . i will knock it or not after i try it for perch.
i am in calgary.
let me know.
orv.
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i,ll take it. never tried one but i did not think i could catch whitefish with treble hooks either.lol . i will knock it or not after i try it for perch.
i am in calgary.
let me know.
orv.
Sorry ORV :-\ : I want Big Monkey to have it. He needs one, he just doesnt know it.
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I've seen the Marmish rods in the store, but never used one. My understanding is that beyond their small size, the main attraction is the sensitivity. If this is so, I'm wondering is there any real sensitivity difference between a Marmish and a spring bobber? I've used those for finicky perch and they show the tiniest little bump(as shown by watching on the AquaV screen). Also, the spring bobber can be used on any rod. I'm not trying to be difficult, but am I missing something?
WoW
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Its not just the sensitivity guys its also that important thing called presentation. Try vibrating a lure on your spring bobber.....its just not the same. I'm glad everyone doesn't like them because if everyone had one I would have a harder time winning so many fishing derbies ;)
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Just because you dont like it doesnt mean its a piece of crap. Stubbourn uninformed people can say all they want and rant and rave on the internet, and no one can stop them. One person doesnt like them out of about ten or so who replied to this thread. Use your rod if you want, if it makes you happy great that is awesome but personal preference doesnt make it crap. I dont like Molson Canadian beer, lots people do, just because i dont like it doesnt mean its garbage. If you dont want to learn how to use the marmish thats great, its just not crap.
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Just because you dont like it doesnt mean its a piece of crap. Stubbourn uninformed people can say all they want and rant and rave on the internet, and no one can stop them. One person doesnt like them out of about ten or so who replied to this thread. Use your rod if you want, if it makes you happy great that is awesome but personal preference doesnt make it crap. I dont like Molson Canadian beer, lots people do, just because i dont like it doesnt mean its garbage. If you dont want to learn how to use the marmish thats great, its just not crap.
I went to the French River to my in-laws cabin this summer for fishing and failed to cash in my life savings to properly supply myself with beer. I would have drank zima's up there if somebody had any!!! Isn't not liking Molson in Canada a cardinal sin??? Sorry I got off topic. I tend to agree with you, I hope I didn't upset anybody that religiously uses a Pak Shak. I think that Big Monkey just want's to liven up a thread... No Worries... we still get to fish, no matter what darn pole you use!!!
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For the guys that do use this system and have luck with it... do you use their lures or others, what do you find works best for you, and if you are using their lures do you bait them and with what, they seem pretty small!
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I use their lures, Custom Jigs and Spins lures, fiskas and a bunch of others, whatever is working. The mid size and large size of marmish lures is what i use most but if the fish get finicky i use the smallest size. Tip with 1-3 maggots and your laughing.
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For the guys that do use this system and have luck with it... do you use their lures or others
I use marmish lures with the rod for the most part...the lures are weighted to work with the different tips and they are decent shapes...but they dont hold up well with pliers.
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Im ganna wager a guess that Monkey was out fishing with someone that had a marmish. Its OK to watch your buddy pull in fish while you get the skunk. Were here for you brother.
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Marmish has not created anything here, people have been pulling fish up by hand for generations, the Simplicity that you say Marmish offers has been around as long as ice fishing has been around, using a notched stick, spool with bare fingers, or spring bobbers on light tackle rods, will catch you just as much fish if not more than a Marmish, it all depends on the Variables of the day, its not always the technology its the fisherman/technique. I know people who went from sticks to regular rods and reels and basically make the same argument as you obsessed Marmish fans, they prefer the simplicity and easy handling of something simpler and feel more comfortable that they can pull out more fish, and i've seen many people fishing with sticks, that out fish people using rods and reels, and i've seen it the other way around. My argument is for $2.00 worth of plastic materials Marmish is making a killing of a profit when charging $25.00, if u want something simple and small that fits in your pocket for pulling and hand fighting fish you can probably make your own for a lot less than Marmish charges for a Reused Technology that’s been around for years.
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Marmish has not created anything here, people have been pulling fish up by hand for generations, the Simplicity that you say Marmish offers has been around as long as ice fishing has been around, using a notched stick, spool with bare fingers, or spring bobbers on light tackle rods, will catch you just as much fish if not more than a Marmish, it all depends on the Variables of the day, its not always the technology its the fisherman/technique. I know people who went from sticks to regular rods and reels and basically make the same argument as you obsessed Marmish fans, they prefer the simplicity and easy handling of something simpler and feel more comfortable that they can pull out more fish, and i've seen many people fishing with sticks, that out fish people using rods and reels, and i've seen it the other way around. My argument is for $2.00 worth of plastic materials Marmish is making a killing of a profit when charging $25.00, if u want something simple and small that fits in your pocket for pulling and hand fighting fish you can probably make your own for a lot less than Marmish charges for a Reused Technology that’s been around for years.
LOL monkey it probaby costs around 5 dollars to make. Then the company that sells it and transportation probably add another 10 to that. So they probably make less then 10. I dealt u could make anything close to it without spending aleast 4-5 hours. Also if u study the marmish system there is a easy way to palm drag it with it. Lol monkey your 25 dollar ice fishing combos are ussually junk anyhow. Considering a decent reel with drag cost around 40 bucks alone. I did'nt use marmish at all i did'nt like it but i know they do work and they do have a palm drag system.
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Well guys you forced my hand, I hate taking sides so I figured why not buy the darn thing and see for myself, either it will be GREAT, or a rip off, or good some times, not good others and go with all the rest of my ice fishing stuff...lol
I could not find one in town, fishing hole said they had six on order but didn't know when they were showing up, so i ordered them direct from Marmish with some lures.... all good so far, paid $12 dollars shipping and their located in Edmonton same as me, so that's sorta a rip... so that should make you all happy so far shipping was a rip off so big monkey was right about the expense thing, just have to wait and see if it catches anything too see about the rest of ya! Will keep you posted!
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The only problem I have about hand over hand with the line in a shanty would be tangle and getting a knot. ???
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Marmish fisherman know why its a great finesse fishing system and that its downsizing abilities, presentation and ability to pick up on even the lightest of bites is second to none. Your right Monkeyman it does seem to have a steep price when you look at what you get in size and what its made up of BUT why would you argue its results when fished properly? $25 for something thats going to give me the edge catching fish on those days when the fish aren't aggressive and are hard to catch, Ill take two please. My fingers are callused to all hell from working and Ill bet the Marmish can show me things my over worked fingers cant when its -25 out.
Your argument about not getting what you pay for does not hold much if any merit in my eyes, by that mentality you shouldn't buy a Rapala for $7 you should buy a tub of minnows for $3, you get more. You shouldn't spend $11 for Fireline you should spend $3 for 500yrdsvof house brand mono you get more and they are the same thing.
Unless you try the product all you can and will ever do is speculate on its worth.
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I find it never matters what I am using to fish for perch....I stick to my Grandpa's #1 Rule:
"NO, No, Ryan....Just let the line hang over your finger...you'll feel the little buggers".
if the "tug" back, is huge...then I pick up the rod...and let the drag do the work.
I have a Marmish VFS. It is alright, for what it is intended to do IMO. I am ALWAYS trying to use my fingers, so it or any other type of rods "indication" isn't that important. Then again I have never tip up'd for perch either...and I saw that the other day...
to each his own, huh?
Good PERCHIN' all!
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LOL monkey it probaby costs around 5 dollars to make. Then the company that sells it and transportation probably add ...
Yeah i didn't say it costs 2 dollars for Marmish to make there Verticle Fishing system, i said its got $2.00 worth of plastic in it, please read next timebefore you start typing stuff. Manufacturing costs and Materials equals 5 dollars okay so 2 dollars and some of materials and 2 dollars in some for labour about, good estimate huh i used your theory. What ever makes u happy, they still make a killing of a profit on it compared to a high quality Rod and Reel. When comes down to purchasing High Quality rods and reels you just got to do a little bit of home work some rods and reels for $25 are junk, I've seen some junky looking rods at Walmart , I seen a rapala rod and reel that was pretty much falling apart, those guys make lures but they sure cant make Rods and Reels. But for the most part Rod and Reels for the $25 range are a deceint buy, a better buy than a Marmish, if you know where to shop places like Fishing Hole and what to look for in a rod and reel You can still buy a deceint rod and reel for $25, or just buy a rod and attach that $40 dollar reel you use in the summer for casting, it will work well my son it will work well. :)
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LOL monkey it probaby costs around 5 dollars to make. Then the company that sells it and transportation probably add ...
Yeah i didn't say it costs 2 dollars for Marmish to make there Verticle Fishing system, i said its got $2.00 worth of plastic in it, please read next timebefore you start typing stuff. Manufacturing costs and Materials equals 5 dollars okay so 2 dollars and some of materials and 2 dollars in some for labour about, good estimate huh i used your theory. What ever makes u happy, they still make a killing of a profit on it compared to a high quality Rod and Reel. When comes down to purchasing High Quality rods and reels you just got to do a little bit of home work some rods and reels for $25 are junk, I've seen some junky looking rods at Walmart , I seen a rapala rod and reel that was pretty much falling apart, those guys make lures but they sure cant make Rods and Reels. But for the most part Rod and Reels for the $25 range are a deceint buy, a better buy than a Marmish, if you know where to shop places like Fishing Hole and what to look for in a rod and reel You can still buy a deceint rod and reel for $25, or just buy a rod and attach that $40 dollar reel you use in the summer for casting, it will work well my son it will work well. :)
Jeez big monkey... I think somebody needs a hug!!!
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I wasn't going to get involved, but here goes with a quick business lesson.
-There may be only $2 (or $5) worth of plastic involved in the rods, the cost comes from the overhead of operating a business. You've got at least 3 different molded plastic parts in the rod, each requiring a separate mold. Each mold can run from $10,000 to probably close to $50,000, as it's a big chunk of alloy steel, intricately machined and hand polished. Now you have to either contract someone to mold the parts in large runs ( more parts = cheaper price per piece) or buy the molding machine yourself which can run for more than $100,000 for an industrial grade one. Now you've got a whole lot of money invested in a bunch of plastic parts that you have to assemble into rods and try and sell, just to get your money back. Not to mention advertising costs (sponsoring a site like this can't be cheap!) and the fact that these guys need to make some profit to pay the bills, investors, and invest in development for future products, not to mention make some money themselves, after all, they are businessmen and have to eat like the rest of us! Now suddenly the $2 rod is worth a lot more. Given that it's priced right in line with any of a dozen other designs available in any sporting goods store, I think that's quite a feat. This thread does have a bright side, it re-brought this rod to my attention and I actually took a much closer look at it, and have decided to buy 2 for me and the girlfriend. I'll let you know how they work when I get them!
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That is the only thing i use for trout and whitefishing. If you have a small lure with little weight it can detect bottom. It can also detect a tiny bite or even when the fish hits it. A good little rod to have if you need space and are packing light. Not to mention I caught my biggest burbot on it, 9.5 pounds. I have also caught many pike on it.
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That is the only thing i use for trout and whitefishing. If you have a small lure with little weight it can detect bottom. It can also detect a tiny bite or even when the fish hits it. A good little rod to have if you need space and are packing light. Not to mention I caught my biggest burbot on it, 9.5 pounds. I have also caught many pike on it.
What pound test do you have on it? I always carry my marmish a 6" hand auger and a couple hooks in the truck in case I come across a good looking place to fish. But I am always affraid that the 2lb test I have on won't cut it for some of the bigger fish, like pike, walley, or burbot. I would feel much better with maybe something in the 6-12lb test.
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its all about finesse . you might get more break offs but you will catch way more fish.
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I've caught a few 4-5lb pike on 8lb test on my old jigging rod, and most of the time the drag would freeze solid, as well as plenty of trout and even some perch. It seems to be a good compromise of strength without being too thick.
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Hmm Ok Spend $20.00 on a Marmish. Yes I'm sure it did only cost $5.00 to make... Can I make it for $5.00? Nope. Wouldn't want to try. Yes It's very simple, No bearing, no bushings to wear out.
On the other hand you can buy a descent ice rod for what $15.00 Gander mountain rods are about that I call them descent-Good rods. A Jippo ice real $15.00. To get the same sensitivity and good spring bobber $4.00. The ice rod you wont have issues with, the spring bobber will be ok unless you close the car door on it. Now the Jippo rear with its aluminum can frame, plastic bearings and bushings.
For a hardcore ice fisherman who gets out religiously ( I don't) Will probably get a season or 2 out of the real before it starts getting sloppy, or binds. So you already spent $35.00 on a conventional set up, and possibly have to keep spending another $15.00 every year or 2. I know no big deal, I wouldn't cry over it, nor will I stop using a conventional set up.
For the hardcore and a Mamrish, there are no moving parts. Its small enough to be carried with you at all times. Nothing to wear out. The sensitivity and the ability to give your bait the unique presentation only a Marmish or similar rod can give you. The spring bobber is exceptional on the Marmish. Would I purposely fish for Pike with it, ehhh I dunno. But I also wouldn't purposely fish for pike on my conventional UL set up either.
People really miss the point on what the beauty of this set up is. When the bite is really slammin, it really doesn't matter, cuz the fish will bite regardless. But when your not getting hit on conventional set ups, just think of this. EVEN with your slightest of a jiggle from the reel seat, that may only be moved 1/8th of an inch, by the time it gets to the end of the rod it turns into an inch or 1.5". May not sound like much, but natural insect prey doesn't jiggle that fast,they flutter in place. If you jiggle a Marmish rod 1/8th of an inch at the end of the tiny rod tip, you may get 1/4 -1/2" of movement on the jig, giving the bait a swimming in place motion. This makes a neutral or negative fish come take the bait, more often then something moving more aggressively.
So does Marmish make money off their product? Sure. Aren't they allowed to? I don't see them listed as a charitable organization. Most companies out there are started to MAKE MONEY!!! you know buy low sell high. So is that being a fraud. No.
Is Marmish the only way to go to get the same response? Can you get the same response with a conventional rod and reel?
Just go out buy a reel seat, for you hard core quality guys go buy a St.Criox rod blank. Cut off 2/3rds of the rod and attach the spring bobber. Now you'll have a reel on a 8-10" rod. Would have been easier just to buy the Mamrish.
I just bought my first one this year. My buddies giggled at me. short rod jokes flying everywhere. But who caught the fish? I did. Everyone else said they would see the fish come up and leave, when the fish were actually either not convinced to take it, or hitting so light they couldn't feel it. Where i could. I was sold, and no one cracks jokes anymore when I break it out. Now they know I'm not fooling around.lol.
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If you think it's too expensive don't buy it. Lots of other replys provided some good reasons to have one. I'm hard core, I hit hardwater every weekend. I have more gear than any reasonably sane person should have and I have a couple of Marmish rods. Work good. Too bad you don't want one, they work alright on lots of species.
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I have 6lb test on it. It is thin enough. We caught upwards of 40 whitefish and almost all were caught on the marmish.
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Yes I am glad you finally get it, The Marmish is Simply not worth it compared to the quality,
and materials you get in a Rod and Reel for the same price range. Please dont hug Marmish
the Thieves dont need a hug.
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Big Monkey... you're killin me!!! I've never met someone who was so pi$$ed off about a pole that they never have used!!! I have a mickey mouse (LITERALLY A MICKEY MOUSE BRAND) kids pole at home that was literally a piece of garbage. I was irritated with my purchase, but oh well the kid I was took fishing had a ball and since the reel was junk, he just crappie poled the little bluegills all day. If somebody else wanted to get a Disney pole, I would certainly advise against it, but that's on them, and I certainly wouldn't spend "days" on a website making sure I was upsetting anybody who successfully used a Disney pole!!!. I don't understand why you get so much pleasure from bagging on the Marmish. How are the Marmish guys thieves... Do you drive??? unless it's a car that you built from scraps of lumber and old lawnmower wheels, and is gravity driven, you were ripped off!!! You lose like 15% value the second you drive it off the lot... where does it go???? And now we get to bail out the motor industry. Take your anger to the General Motors website :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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He's a troll boys. Trolling for ice fisherman and from the looks of it is way over his limit! ::) Let's just stop feeding him.
Poor little guy probably lives in his parents basement, eatin' cheez whiz an watching Star Trek. ;D If you are a real ice fisherman monkey why don't you just go fishn'.
For the rest of us (me included) let's quit feeding the troll.
I'm going fishing. See you's at Gull.
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He's a troll boys. Trolling for ice fisherman and from the looks of it is way over his limit! ::) Let's just stop feeding him.
Poor little guy probably lives in his parents basement, eatin' cheez whiz an watching Star Trek. ;D If you are a real ice fisherman monkey why don't you just go fishn'.
For the rest of us (me included) let's quit feeding the troll.
I'm going fishing. See you's at Gull.
I was hoping my comment wouldn't irritate any of the fine employees of the General Motor Corp., it's not their fault, but I'm calling you out on the cheese whiz!!!! I happen to love that stuff!!! And... original Star Trek was good stuff!!! Either big Monkey fishes alone, not by choice, or he is a brilliant marketing whiz working for Marmish!!!! He has been responsible for so many of those things being sold that Marmish should just send him one. I'm done now!!!
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I just got back in from a morning fishing. My 7 year old and me were fishing in 6' of water, watching the burbot play with our jig/smelts. caught a couple and my son asked if he could try the Marmish. I set him up with a 1/4 oz jig and a gulp shad, dropped it and the Burbot took off. 30 seconds later he says "Dad this isn't a burbot" I look down his hole and there is the snout of a pike nosing his bait. He jigged a few times and the fish inhaled his lure. He played it like I had told him and he got it up to the hole but I had to lead it up. Nose to tail measured 29". These "toy" rods sure made me a proud papa this morning.
Cheers
Dan.
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can not wait til my lil guy is old enough to get out with me.
sounds like a groovy day!!!!
. o 0(man, look at the growth in this thread?>)
. o 0(wonder if i would get as many posts, If I asked for someone to take me for whites...and actually teach me something.
good luck all!!
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well just an update .....
decided to buy one of these things cause of all the chatter, and figured the only way to really know if its for me is to try one... all the local places were sold out so i ordered one on line, and payed 12 dollars for shipping only to later find out their in the same city as i am, Edmonton. The website says 4 to 8 days shipping in Canada, well its been 7 days and still no Marmish in my mailbox. So far way overpaid for shipping and if it does not show up tomorrow, than they really wont be on my plus side. So far not too impressed and i haven't even tried it yet! lol
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feel free to give me the rod you dont like. i'll pick it up or pay for shipping.
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I picked mine up a week ago at wss,
I like it so far - pretty good little system -
probally going to go pick up a few more,
do you guys fish with different hooks than the marmish hooks?
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I use wire worms all the time with mine, as well as tiny ratso jigs for perch
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well my marmish rod and lures showed up right on ten days, but cant be too hard on them , i guess they were having problems with paypal and the computer. Got a call from the owner saying he was sorry, so cant be to hard on the guy... now all that's left is to take it out for a test drive.
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i use alot of different hooks on them, from size 7 len thompsons to little jigs. Its all good, you just have to adjust the spring bobber.
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bought 1 this morning , give it a try this weekend . let you know
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marmish is making a fair bit on this thread alone...
i seen one at the fishin hole today but it seemed like a bit too much money.
i would rather hand bomb em with a spool...way more sensitive and cheaper
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Yes a Spool would be a lot better choice than paying $25 for cheap plastic rod.
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I bet monkey drives a dodge!!!
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This is the sad part of todays society people ask advice here and no one responds or they leave a friendly greeting and want to reach out and no one replies, but some guy who has a negative opinion on a product gets weeks of replies. People focus more on fishing and on the social aspect of fishing than on this weak thread debating black vs,white you say it's black I say it's white nothing will change that opinion so why try.
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marmish is making a fair bit on this thread alone...
i seen one at the fishin hole today but it seemed like a bit too much money.
i would rather hand bomb em with a spool...way more sensitive and cheaper
that is exactly what I thought, until I tired one...
I dont mind hand bombin with the spool - but when you do rig up a marmish - things tend to go a little smoother, alot less messing around.
price is steep, but the unit works good, keeps things simple and clean and if you do rig up a few you do really have no down time.
I dont know havent caught many fish with this thing yet but so far it is worth the money to me...
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This is the sad part of todays society people ask advice here and no one responds or they leave a friendly greeting and want to reach out and no one replies, but some guy who has a negative opinion on a product gets weeks of replies. People focus more on fishing and on the social aspect of fishing than on this weak thread debating black vs,white you say it's black I say it's white nothing will change that opinion so why try.
Well said.
Actually I find the Alberta Forum here on Ice Shanty pretty decent. You should visit the Alberta Outdoorsman board if you want to see nothing but debating black vs white. I wish it wasn't so but it seems to be human nature.
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You can complain about whatever Marmish is selling, but you can deny that for small fish like perch russian mormish and small, sport type fishing rods are unbeatable. I can bet I would outfish any other system at least 5:1 in good perch lake. Especially marmish advantage is obvious when fish is not active and you need to provoke them to bite. Here is little example what marmish system can do in couple hours in Midnapore lake where there is no limit for perch;)... good luck beating it with anything else.
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nice mess of perch
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A private lake.....ha ha ha.
I'd put anything against the marmish....if I knew I could pull those numbers out of a private lake....regardless of how "picky" the fish might be.
At least the website made it look like you had to gain access to the "community" lake and pay access fees if you are a "resident".
nice bunch of perch though...
And I know..I know...(yeah yeah)....when they are picky ...they are picky...esp in a lake like that....(ha ha ha).
I Wonder how many go in there every year? Must be doing quite well...for NO LIMIT?
I'd take a spool of line and a few hooks and put that up against the marmish...at a lake like that....WONDER how well I would do?
Already commented on the Marmish. Don't love it, Don't hate it...like anything else it hap it's role...
Good luck!!
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I'd take a spool of line and a few hooks and put that up against the marmish...at a lake like that....WONDER how well I would do?
not great I will tell you... like 3 to 100;)... some guy fishing like you with bobber and big hook and probably 10lbs line had 3 perch total same day few metres away from me... he couldn't understand what the hell I am doing pulling them out like that...And please stop that crap about it being community lake - it is same perch in the end.
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WHAT A POST in reply...
SOME GUY LIKE ME? WEAK.
Well I was asking questions, and wondering what that communtiy lake might be like
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...you were saying you would BET that you could outfish any other system...I replied.
Sorry if you took my post as a dig at you or your opinions....BUT COME ON!
"not great I will tell you" - you have no idea , I might do very well....other people can fish too you know!!
...(yeah the confidence of someone that shoots someone else down...when they have no clue about them.....GREAT!!)
well, I am not retarded...so NO I don't use 10lb line, fishing for perch...that WAS A DIG.
I was not making a dig at you, so RELAX!!!
I will not post about your community lake anymore...sorry to ruin your day...lol
. o 0(the same fish..yeah in species...but when you have little pressure, and no limit..and thousands and thousands in a lake...I really wonder if the habits are the same)...
I am done conversing with you.
. o 0(weak)
GO OILERS!!!
Good luck!
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Thats it, I'm buying one....,aybe they should send Monkey some commission.....actuall y maybe he's the owner....hmmmm..lol
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WHAT A POST in reply...
SOME GUY LIKE ME? WEAK.
Well I was asking questions, and wondering what that communtiy lake might be like
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...you were saying you would BET that you could outfish any other system...I replied.
Sorry if you took my post as a dig at you or your opinions....BUT COME ON!
"not great I will tell you" - you have no idea , I might do very well....other people can fish too you know!!
...(yeah the confidence of someone that shoots someone else down...when they have no clue about them.....GREAT!!)
well, I am not retarded...so NO I don't use 10lb line, fishing for perch...that WAS A DIG.
I was not making a dig at you, so RELAX!!!
I will not post about your community lake anymore...sorry to ruin your day...lol
. o 0(the same fish..yeah in species...but when you have little pressure, and no limit..and thousands and thousands in a lake...I really wonder if the habits are the same)...
I am done conversing with you.
. o 0(weak)
GO OILERS!!!
Good luck!
well, you made it sound like it is so easy to catch perch in comminuty lake that anybody can do same like I showed in my picture. When truth is nobody does that, well unless they using marmish!!! You think there are thousands of them and they are hungry and will bite on anything? LOL. Come and try, lets make a little derby and we will see. Or even better lets go to any natural good perch lake ok?
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"not great I will tell you" - you have no idea , I might do very well....other people can fish too you know!!
well, you said I would put a "spool of line with couple hooks vs marmish" so simple logic - if you fish LIKE THAT you will not do very well;). Good luck proving me wrong!
I wonder how many ice fishing derbies you won fishing that way? For example I won quite a few and placed in top 3 many times when back in Europe in perch fishing derbies, so I know what it takes to catch large amounts of perch in short time and I know that nobody fishing with "spool of line and hooks" can come even close to amounts you can get using proper marmish system.
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Yeah so Marmish is still a joke good to know.
:tipup:
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GO OILERS!!!
Good luck!
****censored word****in eh ryan
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You know all these rods and different lines and lures are all a joke!! All you need is the basics and you will catch fish if you know what your doing!! I find the best thing is a paint stick with a notch in each end works better then any of that other crap! Stick with the simple stuff.
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I find the best thing is a paint stick with a notch in each end works better then any of that other crap! Stick with the simple stuff.
Spoken like a true Canadian ;D STUCK IN THE STONE AGE.
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LOL,
just had to end it off right walleyewhisperer!!
good luck guys!!
Hope the weather picks up.
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so i wanted to check out this thing, bought one and broke it within 15 minutes. its a good......acually great idea, but it has major design flaws and i dont think it is worth the money untill its improved.
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ahahaha take that marmish...,how did it break not one of them tent/tip-up down the hole pike!!!!!!lol
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went to put line on it and the hinge is made of thin plastic. then there is the tip eyelet, since its busted i might as well see what else needs improvment and u know i easly pulled the line thru the tips eyelet. it needs a hardplastic grommet in there. i taped it up and put a piece of a wire insulator in the tip and taped that, and im gonna try it fishing now lol.
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So its good to hear that The Marmish Verticle Fishing System Is Still A JOKE.
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I have never used the Marmish rods, I feel that my regular jiggin stick with spining reel is the mort efficient and effective. Realize though that Marmish is a site sponsor!!
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Mr. Big Monkey.... I just got one, and used it and I stated in an earlier post that when I got it I would give an honest and fair review of it. Again... I own and use one so my opinion means at least 100% more than yours. It is really frustrating to me and others that there is no reasonable explanation for the amount of joy you are receiving by bashing a product that you not only have never used but for whatever reason refuse to even try!!! At least give us a reason. Help us to understand. You don't owe us an explanation, but continuing to negatively preach about this product with no baseline experience with one really is a discredit to your character. I'd like to think that we are all here to make friends and share good information. Anyhow... I agree with beergut. The hinge on the reel of this product is one major design flaw. You really do have to be careful so as not to flex it too much, it "APPEARS" to be flimsy. The hinge was never opened and was already gray showing stress. On the plus side, I was amazed at the amount of thought that went into the actual design of the rest of the pole. It is simple and compact yet has some cool features that beat the old spool and stick type outfits I have used in the past. The spring bobber is absolutely one of the best on the market. I was pulling at least two or three fish to my buddy's one fish on a regular basis. You have to hand bomb the line after hookup, so obviously best suited for shallow water applications. Not to say you couldn't fish in deeper water with it, but it presents a challenge. I love it for jigging for trout and panfish and am very happy with the purchase. There you go... unbiased opinion from a user.
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Sounds like a P.O.S to me ???
Why would you even want to try something like this?????????
Just cut a willow-limb and tie a string to it.....much more sophisticated 8)
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Ok Marmish We know you read this, give us some light on this hinge deal. Also how about something for deeper water fishing. This is what I would like in the shanty.
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He must be a Democrat
If a Republican doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy on...e.
If a Democrat doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
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I laugh at marmish rods and the people that used them for years,By the way money marmish style rods have been around for just about as long
as sticks... :icefish: That was until I was fishing at a little pond and could not get a bite another fisherman was fishing about 50 ft away with a marmish rod ....lolol right.... after he limited out and left.....WHAT! I tried his hole still nothing, I started talking to a few people about marmish style rods and found out that it is not only the rod but the way you use it. You can send vibrations down the line to the jig that you just cant do with other rods.
So you guessed it I bought one now i'm no expert but i have had some luck with it,I still use my regular rods but if the fish don't want to cooperate then i dig it out and some times it saves the day.............far from a joke
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Funny this topic popped up today... Just picked up another marmish rod...
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I guess this necropost is gonna grow legs... I used a Marmish on Sat night fishing crappies.
It was a TOUGH bite to say the least.
Final tally, me 13 fish.... Guy next to me with a really high end rod, 4.... We were in 50 feet of water too, it was still worth it. I love them.
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I own one I haven't really used it much yet but I have out fished everyone around me when I use it. Before I got my marmish I wasn't to sure about them. But I am a marmish guy now.
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Bought a Marmish rod this year too. just haven't had a chance to try it out yet. Might head out to Burnstick Friday or Chain Lakes. Haven't decided yet. Does anyone put a maggot on the end of the Marmish fishing lure? or do you fish it bare? :tipup: :icefish:
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I have always used it bare
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I have had success bare and tipped with a maggot, but I prefer to tip with the maggot. it looks good on there, with the action the spring bobber adds it looks like a little tail twitching and it drives the perch nuts.
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Have used Marmish for the past 3 Years , works very well for me on Whites and other FISh in shallower waters
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In reading through this old post, it reminded me of a marketing guy who once told me that when you go to the hardware store to buy a drill, it is not really a drill that you want, but a hole. Marmish & St. Croix are just different drills in that regard. If Marmish catches more fish for whatever reason, then it is "better". My experience with shallow perch, crappie and gills certainly supports that. My only complaint with the Marmish is that I would love to be able to use it 50-60 ft down where the whitefish are found around here. Hard to do with no good way to keep all that hand-retrieved line from tangling when fishing inside a one-man flipover on a windy day.
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marmish is the god send for whites.
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marmish is the god send for whites.
I agree
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Buy a quality ice rod and you will feel the same ultra lite bites that the Marmish rod detects.
Then put on a decent reel with a; drag and that 20 plus pounder is not going to be a problem
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Buy a quality ice rod and you will feel the same ultra lite bites that the Marmish rod detects.
Then put on a decent reel with a; drag and that 20 plus pounder is not going to be a problem
I respectfully disagree. Why would you use a 20lbs setup for whitefish? Some guys could play a whole round with a putter and you can hammer with a wrench. A versatile tool is often good to get you by, but a specialty tool gets the job done.
Guys who target whites don't anticipate 20 pound fish when using #16 wire worms etc...anyways.
Not trying to be a jerk or negative in anyway.
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6lb braided line and you are set for that large fish that may just decide it wants a taste of your offering.
You wind up hand balming the thing in with that set up so why bother. Just use a line with your wireworm save yourself a few bucks.
Also do not want to sound negative but I think the subject heading hits the nail on the head.
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You could do what I do and attach a marmish bite indicator to one or two of your ice rods. I do prefer reeling em up to hand lining.
I just set the rod across my lap and tickle up a bite. reel em up and get the hook back in the water ASAP. I have attached st croix indicators to a few rods as well but The marmish bite indicators have a larger range of adjustability from tiny micro jigs to decent size perch and walleye spoons. I never did like hand lining so I won't use a tipup either. I will use a jawjacker or home made slammer for my deadstick. Like one of my buddies always says using a tipup for fishing is like using a snare to hunt moose. J/K to each his own have fun out there.
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I thought they were a joke too until I tried one; now I never leave home without it lol. They do have limitations & you can't toss them around like you can a hearty little graphite rod but they are great little tools. Fishing side-by-side with people using traditional rods (while perch fishing anyway), I can easily detect twice as many light takes with the Marmish. I know you can attach a strike indicator or even a Marmish tip to a rod but the difference seems to be the overall length of the device you are using; even with a Marmish tip a traditional rod is too long to keep it from jiggling or quivering whereas the Marmish rod is short enough to keep almost dead still.
This is important because I have fished several times for perch in Southern Alberta when even the jumbos were biting soooo light, the only way you could tell they were taking was the indicator tip would slowly go from slightly hanging, to sitting straight out neutral with no weight on the line indicating a perch had sucked in the jig & was just sitting there. I have never been able to detect that with a hand line or held a 18"-26" rod still enough ,indicator or not, to notice when it happens consistantly.
Marmish rods will never replace jigging rods, nor should they, but they are a heck of a great tool to have in the arsenal!