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Title: otsego lake
Post by: shmob on Jan 13, 2011, 05:19 PM
have not seen any post on or about Otsego lake cooperstown.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: snelly on Jan 13, 2011, 05:33 PM
probabally because there is nothing to report unless you want the swimming conditions
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: adkRoy on Jan 13, 2011, 06:31 PM
Check out the NY reports and conditions board:

][http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=13665.20] (http://[http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=13665.20)
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 13, 2011, 06:39 PM
The north half froze over last Thursday. The remainder froze Monday night. On Tuesday I tried to fish it off Glimmerglass (too scary!), about 3 inches of ice, 3 Mile Point had about 1 1/2 inches. We had about 8 inches of snow Wednesday. I can't imagine that it made much ice Wednesday night. We had lake effect (2-3") and brisk winds today, with a high of about 19 (it was 7 degrees this morning). It is 11 degrees right now and a low of around 5-6 tonight. If some of the snow blew off there <MAY> be areas of safe ice on the north end. I plan on checking it tomorrow and I will report in the NY Reports and Conditions forum:

 http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=13665.0

BIGJim223
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: JAGER61 on Jan 13, 2011, 07:45 PM
Hey Big Jim:  Thanks for the detailed and informative posts!  Ever get the scoop on using sleds out of Glimmerglass?  I sent the NYS Park Authority and email today posing the question but so far no reply.  How much snow cover is on the lake right now? 

Thanks- Mike
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: matthewwood25 on Jan 13, 2011, 09:17 PM
hey jager when we gonna hook up and do a little fishing
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BCSHANTY on Jan 14, 2011, 02:54 AM
Hey Big Jim:  Thanks for the detailed and informative posts!  Ever get the scoop on using sleds out of Glimmerglass?  I sent the NYS Park Authority and email today posing the question but so far no reply.  How much snow cover is on the lake right now? 

Thanks- Mike
Hey Mike! Hows  your head?  Any word on Glenida yet?
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 14, 2011, 06:26 PM
Hey Big Jim:  Thanks for the detailed and informative posts!  Ever get the scoop on using sleds out of Glimmerglass?  I sent the NYS Park Authority and email today posing the question but so far no reply.  How much snow cover is on the lake right now? 

Thanks- Mike

Mike: I didn't get there today, dang work got in my way until 5pm! I did see a guy and his dog out fishing just north of 5 Mile Point this morning around 10am. Had  tip ups set in a line out in 50-60 FOW. Nobody was out at 3 Mile Point at that time. I hope to get out off of Glimmerglass in the morning. I will stop in the park office and check on the snowmobile situation, and post later tomorrow.
Stay safe out there!

BIGJim223
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: JAGER61 on Jan 14, 2011, 09:18 PM
Mike: I didn't get there today, dang work got in my way until 5pm! I did see a guy and his dog out fishing just north of 5 Mile Point this morning around 10am. Had  tip ups set in a line out in 50-60 FOW. Nobody was out at 3 Mile Point at that time. I hope to get out off of Glimmerglass in the morning. I will stop in the park office and check on the snowmobile situation, and post later tomorrow.
Stay safe out there!

BIGJim223

Thanks a bunch Jim!

Mike
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 15, 2011, 11:06 AM
OK! Here's the deal on snowmobiles/ATV's in Glimmerglass. NO riding on Park lands~BUT~ you can park in the West Lot, unload, and access the lake. All machines must be registered/insured, and helmets must be worn. Park closes at dark, you must be out by dark. This info is directly from the park office, this morning. They highly recommended waiting until the ice get thicker!

  No one out there fishing this morning, that surprised me, there was somebody at 3 MIle Point that had tip ups out, though I was in a hurry and didn't stop. They must have been in their vehicle, as there was no one out on the ice, just a string of tip ups fairly close to shore. I am <trying> to get out for later this afternoon, see what happens...

BIGJim223

 
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: Adirondackhunter on Jan 16, 2011, 01:51 PM
Bigjim,

Before I say this I want you to know that I am glad to see some people on here try to help everyone else out. I think it is great.

I can't believe the Debbie downers haven't started harassing ou about posting information on here, especially on an extremely competitive lake like Otsego!

Can't wit to get out there myself! My jig pole has been feeling neglected.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: bassinbrian_on_ice on Jan 16, 2011, 02:57 PM
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Bigjim,
Before I say this I want you to know that I am glad to see some people on here try to help everyone else out. I think it is great.

DITTO  :bow: :clap:



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I can't believe the Debbie downers haven't started harassing ou about posting information on here,

DITTO ... And funny  :roflmao:



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Can't wit to get out there myself! My jig pole has been feeling neglected

DITTO  :woot:
 :icefish:
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: gitthegaff on Jan 16, 2011, 05:54 PM
Ditto! with me too !  Keep the posts coming on Otsego.  Thanks Paul
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 16, 2011, 10:12 PM
  "quote"  I can't believe the Debbie downers haven't started harassing you about posting information on here,


Let's see here.....I gave info on ice thickness and warned it was scary.  9.2 miles of lake, 1 mile wide, I checked 2 places that have access. I hope I didn't give away anyone's secret spot! Some of my best fish are caught in the middle of Glimmerglass's West Parking Lot! If your good you won't even have to get out of your ride.......

Next.... I gave requested info on sled/ATV access in Glimmerglass State Park. Anyone could pick up a phone and call the park for the same inf. Here's the # (607) 547-8662  I just happen to live next door. So much for that state secret! It's out! 

Oh yeah, don't forget that I was asked how much snow was on the lake and what the temperature was.... big deal!

Anyone want to know where they keep all the big Lakers and browns in Otsego???? HINT! Not in the West Parking Lot! How about the price of gas at the local stations? I have all the top secret 411! Just ask........

I must have been mistaken when I thought this site was all about SHARING information.
    Some history:
 I have been fishing (ICE and liquid) for give or take 52 years, 47 of them within 7 miles of Glimmerglass SP, well before Glimmerglass was even proposed. Owned my first boat on Otsego when I was 13 years old (13th birthday present), and my father had a boat on the lake well before I was born, and up to the day he passed on.

So pi$$ on "The Debbie Downers" if I gave to much info! Hate to give away any info on "their" lake.

To all that would like some honest answers to their questions on Otsego, I will gladly answer them to the best of my ability. Just ask!

BIGJim223

Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: rondog on Jan 17, 2011, 04:57 AM
BIGjim223
  I live about 100 miles from Otsego and fish it summer and winter,The information you have posted is great
 Thank you!!
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: Adirondackhunter on Jan 17, 2011, 01:10 PM
  "quote"  I can't believe the Debbie downers haven't started harassing you about posting information on here,


Let's see here.....I gave info on ice thickness and warned it was scary.  9.2 miles of lake, 1 mile wide, I checked 2 places that have access. I hope I didn't give away anyone's secret spot! Some of my best fish are caught in the middle of Glimmerglass's West Parking Lot! If your good you won't even have to get out of your ride.......

Next.... I gave requested info on sled/ATV access in Glimmerglass State Park. Anyone could pick up a phone and call the park for the same inf. Here's the # (607) 547-8662  I just happen to live next door. So much for that state secret! It's out! 

Oh yeah, don't forget that I was asked how much snow was on the lake and what the temperature was.... big deal!

Anyone want to know where they keep all the big Lakers and browns in Otsego???? HINT! Not in the West Parking Lot! How about the price of gas at the local stations? I have all the top secret 411! Just ask........

I must have been mistaken when I thought this site was all about SHARING information.
    Some history:
 I have been fishing (ICE and liquid) for give or take 52 years, 47 of them within 7 miles of Glimmerglass SP, well before Glimmerglass was even proposed. Owned my first boat on Otsego when I was 13 years old (13th birthday present), and my father had a boat on the lake well before I was born, and up to the day he passed on.

So pi$$ on "The Debbie Downers" if I gave to much info! Hate to give away any info on "their" lake.

To all that would like some honest answers to their questions on Otsego, I will gladly answer them to the best of my ability. Just ask!

BIGJim223



Damn straight. I wish I had. Info last year before I drove out there and there was open water!
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 17, 2011, 02:21 PM
HOW THICK IS THE ICE ON 3 MILE POINT ]
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: hot tuna on Jan 17, 2011, 02:40 PM
I thank you for the great info.. knowing about lake conditions , safety and general information is what I always like to see posted. While I don't fish there I do think you are providing a great service and help.. Keep them coming.  someday I may take a ride out and your info will be helpful..
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: adksavage on Jan 17, 2011, 02:56 PM
Thanks BigJim, The info that you have been giving has been great. :thumbsup: We are all excited to get over and hit those lakers. And your info has kept us excitable types a little dryer. Again the info you give is very appreciated. :clap: :clap: :clap:
 By the way fisdhing in the middle of the parking lot was awesome. :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: I won't tell a soul. :whistle: :roflmao:
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 17, 2011, 05:58 PM
HOW THICK IS THE ICE ON 3 MILE POINT ]

On Sunday some friends of mine spent the better part of the day at 3 Mile. They told me that there was 3-4 inches out maybe 150 yards, the next hole they drilled out a bit further, the auger went through in 1 1/2 turns! They said maybe 1 1/2-2 inches. They backed right off towards shore. They warned some other fishermen going out that way, they drilled a hole and went right back toward shore.

   I had -7 degrees here this morning, and a high of about 16, today. Expected to get to 30-32 on Tuesday, 2-4 inches of snow and some icy sleet forecast.

Adksavage:  Shhhhhhh! Keep it down about fishing the West Lot! Did you limit out??? ;) ;D

BIGJim223
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: Baitfisher on Jan 17, 2011, 07:02 PM
I saw someone off 3 mile today. Not very far though.

I hate this type of freeze up. Better hope for a melt down of the snow layer and a hard freeze to fuse things together! A questionable base layer under snow makes things tricky.  :-\

Over night lows in the single digits later in the week will help.

Marbled ice with a thin base layer will be something to remember later in the season!  ;)
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 17, 2011, 07:49 PM
were is some hot spots for lakers
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 18, 2011, 06:40 AM
were could i find some lake trout on the lake and big perch  
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: edddieo on Jan 18, 2011, 07:52 AM
  silly .get out and find them do you honestly think we would put you in a fish bowl. come on down put some time in have som fun [hint] look for people dont ask silly questions
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: adkRoy on Jan 18, 2011, 07:57 AM
were could i find some lake trout on the lake and big perch  

My advice is go out of glimmerglass state park, head south on the lake about a half mile and head towards the village. that's for lakers. They run deep. Perch will be more shallow. Stay in the bay by the state park for them.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 18, 2011, 08:13 AM
were could i find some lake trout on the lake and big perch  

What adkRoy ^^^ said! Be prepared to fish 140 feet of water.

BIGJim223
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: buffoonus on Jan 18, 2011, 08:20 AM
BigJim, I have followed your posts and can tell you are quite knowledgeable about the lake. Although I don't post much I do spend alot of time on here reading. I was wondering about your impressions for perch on Otsego. I use to run tip ups many years ago on Otsego and had a lot of fun chasing lakers but then the perch bug hit me. I have been hooked ever since. I usually hit Candarago once or twice a year and then make a trip to Chaumont or Sandy Pond. I just thought maybe I should try Otsego for Perch...it is closer for me since I am a local from the Oneonta area....anyway...any comments or thoughts about Perch in Otsego...
Thanks.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: adkRoy on Jan 18, 2011, 08:31 AM
I have caught some big perch out of otsego....they really like icicles on tip-ups. in 10-20 fow.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 18, 2011, 09:31 AM
how thick is it near glimmerglass might go this wekkend
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 18, 2011, 10:14 AM
BigJim, I have followed your posts and can tell you are quite knowledgeable about the lake. Although I don't post much I do spend alot of time on here reading. I was wondering about your impressions for perch on Otsego. I use to run tip ups many years ago on Otsego and had a lot of fun chasing lakers but then the perch bug hit me. I have been hooked ever since. I usually hit Candarago once or twice a year and then make a trip to Chaumont or Sandy Pond. I just thought maybe I should try Otsego for Perch...it is closer for me since I am a local from the Oneonta area....anyway...any comments or thoughts about Perch in Otsego...
Thanks.

I have caught some nice perch in Otsego, but seldom fish for them anymore. I caught a couple 12 inchers this fall while SM Bass fishing, quite a surprise! Especially since I was throwing a size 7 or 9 Rapala!
  When I did target them through the ice, I mostly used tip ups with small creek chubs and icicles. And always did the best in the north west corner of the lake off Public Landing. It is mostly a mud bottom with a few left over weed patches, here and there. Though I would think most anywhere in 12-30 FOW you will find some. The flats down around Cooperstown should be a good bet also, maybe Rat Cove, just south of 3 Mile.

Good luck, I am heading out to find someplace to fish right now!

BIGJim223
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 18, 2011, 11:03 AM
thanks for the help
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 18, 2011, 05:44 PM
bigjim223 did you catch anything ice fishing ???
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 18, 2011, 07:31 PM
By the time I got loaded up, it was pouring rain! 21 degrees and it froze to everything! Never even left the drive way, though I did let my truck warm up- 25 minutes and still had thick ice on the windows! Rained hard for about3 hours, then changed over to sleet for a couple hours. Everything around here is ice coated. My dogs won't even leave the house, too slippery out there!

Just can't catch a break on the weather...... :(

BIGJim223
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 18, 2011, 08:24 PM
should be better on the weekend
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: adksavage on Jan 19, 2011, 07:13 AM
BigJim... Sorry you didn't get out yesterday. What a terrible day it turned out to be. They are saying it's going to get really cold over the weekend. Below zero. Hope things lock up good and you get out. :clap: Looking at trying your lake this Sunday. We'll keep an eye out for ya!
I'll be dragging my Otter lodge out and there will be a couple clam shanty's... drop on by!
Oh by the way, thanks for the west lot tip. :bow: :bow: You can limit right out on "Rock" bass.  :thumbsup: :roflmao: :roflmao:
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 19, 2011, 08:18 PM
been there a cople times on the lake were is the west lot :tipup:
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: adkRoy on Jan 19, 2011, 08:20 PM
been there a cople times on the lake were is the west lot :tipup:

In Glimmerglass state park, it is the lot all the way at the end of the road, before the hill to the Hyde house.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: northernmaddness on Jan 19, 2011, 08:32 PM
ive been following most of these post because i live in herkimer and have been to glimmerglass many of times in the summer. Bigjim u do a great job with the info on this lake. Was wondering what i might catch fishing the bay off glimmerglass not to far out? any info would be a big help. Also wouldnt mind meeting some of u guys up there for a little get 2gether to meet some new fishermen
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: adkRoy on Jan 19, 2011, 08:34 PM
You'll catch perch and if you set your tip up just below the ice, an occasional brown trout.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: Baitfisher on Jan 21, 2011, 09:11 PM
Was wondering what i might catch fishing the bay off glimmerglass not to far out?

Perch, Pickerel, Brown Trout, Small Mouth Bass, Maybe a Landlocked Salmon or......... ::) That's the great thing about Otsego........ you never know.

I used to jig up great big Spottail Shiner's in the Bay on Perch jigs and use them on tip ups for Browns and Salmon. The same with Smelt off of the Fill.

Be careful out there. Still early for this lake anymore!
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 22, 2011, 06:56 PM
what depth off glimmerglass do you have to fish for lake trout :icefish: :tipup:
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: o2rmk800 on Jan 22, 2011, 07:02 PM
takes a long walk out of glimmerglass to get to deeper water, but i'm saying you can't get lakers in the shallows. ;)
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Jan 23, 2011, 01:20 PM
anybody catching any lakers at 3 mile point
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: o2rmk800 on Jan 23, 2011, 01:37 PM
probably if they can stay on top of the ice..... ::)
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 23, 2011, 07:21 PM
anybody catching any lakers at 3 mile point

Nope!


   Another fisherman went through today, though! caught himself with his arm pits, dragged himself out somehow. My buddy (who was fishing way in from where this happened) said the guy left his bucket, tip ups, tackle, and a 12 pack sitting out there and told my buddy it was all his if he wanted it! He said he wasn't going out there, not worth it.
My friend was fishing in 120 FOW and marking fish on the bottom, but could not get them to bite. He also had a run of fish in the 30 foot depth, they would not bite either. He's going to the north end tomorrow!
Check the Conditions Board to read about my trip this morning.

BIGJim223
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: o2rmk800 on Jan 23, 2011, 07:24 PM
I don't want to sound like an a** but seems as if the village needs to close the gate to 3 mile before someone goes in and doesn't come out!
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: lakearch on Jan 26, 2011, 08:27 AM

WENT OUT LAST SUNDAY MORNING AND NO ONE WAS THERE. MINUS 2 AT 6:30. I FISHED OTSEGO SINCE IT WAS OPEN ALL YEAR AND BECAUSE OF THE SNOW IT IS NOT SAFE ICE.  WAS NOT GOING TO BE THE FIRST PERSON OUT BUT DID CUT A FEW HOLES 50 FEET OUT AND GOT ABOUT 4 INCHES.  NOT FOR ME. MAYBE THIS WEEKEND.
PS   THE STATE SHOULD POST SOME SIGNS.  WOULD BE GREAT.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: shmob on Jan 26, 2011, 03:52 PM
ice is about 2 inches of  black with 3 inches of snow,some slush areas.left off north end headed to 100 foot of water.no fish on vex.picked up some perch near shore about 5 inch long.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: Shannon Nichols on Jan 27, 2011, 02:36 PM
Just got back from 3 mile point what a mess. About 50ft out there was plenty of ice 4 inches but alot of water on top with the snow. Then i got about 50 yards out and my foot went through the snow then water then thin ice right into open water. I could feel more ice beaking as i was running off the lake. lost my box of spoons. the ice looks solid in the coves, but i want lakers. We need some colder weather before the ice is safe. Looks like its back to millbrook for rainbows!!
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: edddieo on Jan 27, 2011, 05:14 PM
 :tipup: :tipup: :tipup: :o :o ;D ;D your in the wrong spot :icefish: :icefish: :whistle: :whistle:
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: stringer01 on Jan 29, 2011, 06:08 PM
another guy through today off three mile thickness seems to vary quite a bit  put a rant on conditions board just hate to see someone get hurt and i know ice is never totally safe just wish i didnt see kids out quite yet use your heads guys  the kids prolly have the advantage they dont weigh as much stay on top !!!
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: mlake4 on Jan 30, 2011, 12:17 PM
I am 6 foot 4 and 315Lbs and i went out on 3 mile on thursday, scariest time ive ever been on the ice, my friends went in to his knees and hes about 230Lbs... will not be goin back for atleast a week and a half :o
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Jan 30, 2011, 01:35 PM
I am 6 foot 4 and 315Lbs and i went out on 3 mile on thursday, scariest time ive ever been on the ice, my friends went in to his knees and hes about 230Lbs... will not be goin back for atleast a week and a half :o

Glad you guys are OK! You won't see me out there until it freezes way better, if it ever does!

BIGJim223
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: Snowrd on Jan 30, 2011, 02:42 PM
Why do we need goverment to get involved to tell people that ice is dangerous?
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: irotter on Jan 30, 2011, 03:36 PM
i think the fish will wait, not worth a life. be safe
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: fishingPole on Jan 30, 2011, 05:26 PM
I would hope that ice fishermen were intelligent enough to understand lakes such as the deeper the lake the longer it takes to freeze (example OTSEGO), underwater springs that cause thin ice, being aware that streams entering lakes cause thin ice etc...  No, we don't need more laws in NY State, we're regulated to death as it is, just read the fishing regulations for NY to see what I'm saying.  What we do need is for everybody to be educated enough to do their homework in advance and be responsible for their own actions...  geez, must be my age here that makes me want to preach...  :-\
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: shmob on Jan 30, 2011, 07:10 PM
back from otsego today sunday.first day i have been skunked this season.ice will not get any better with that snow,slush cover on two -three inches of good ice.a man told me today he seen a guy loose his wheeler in the north end yesterday.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: Baitfisher on Jan 30, 2011, 08:28 PM
Anybody who's not familiar with this lake or didn't see the freeze pattern aka "what parts froze up first", would be well advised to read Big Jim's posts in their entirety. He has given the best reports that I have seen for Otsego.

This lake is no Gilly pond, you make a mistake out here it could well be your last  :nono:
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: stringer01 on Jan 30, 2011, 08:28 PM
well you guys need to stay sharp lake is deep and has a lot of springs stay on top
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: Shannon Nichols on Jan 31, 2011, 08:38 AM
I knew i was not the only wet foot if anyone was in the parking lot sat about 6am you seen the guy that went all the way and was freezing before our eyes. First hole i drilled was scary. i did manage to land a 28 inch pig, but then while pulling a tip op out at the end of the day i started to fall through again had to roll away. How do i upload my photo's? I do have a pic of a record laker from otsego from 2005 that still holds the record under my name. 
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: ship of fools on Jan 31, 2011, 08:42 AM
Seems like it might be a good idea to stay away from 3 mile after multiple people have gone in...  over and over... it's almost a daily thing  ::)
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: mlake4 on Feb 02, 2011, 02:08 PM
if anyone goes out to 3 mile today can you please post ice thickness and how much snow is on the ice after the storm last night??? :tipup: :tipup:
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: wish4fish on Feb 03, 2011, 05:30 AM
Well it seems like you are shooting odds or evens, whether or not you will take a swim or not when going out off three mile.  The bait guy says better than 12 guys have gone in within the last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: BIGJim223 on Feb 03, 2011, 07:18 AM
What he ^^^^^ said!

BIGJim223
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Feb 03, 2011, 01:59 PM
what is the ice thickness at glimerglass
Title: Re: otsego lake
Post by: eduard on Feb 23, 2011, 08:25 PM
were can i find some perch and at what depth