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Title: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: noelaar on Dec 17, 2012, 03:48 PM
Anyone have their insite on what boot would be warmer and hopefully last alittle longer? Looking to buy a boot that will keep me warm in our negatives we get. Please feel free to post what boot you suggest!


Thank you!
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Post by: bigredonice on Dec 17, 2012, 03:50 PM
Rubber insulated boots tend to leak alot less...I've switched over to Muck boots and haven't used anything else since...but then again, my feet don't get cold, so that plays no part in my decision.
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Post by: noelaar on Dec 17, 2012, 03:54 PM
I was looking into a Cabela's Comfort Trac 2,000 gram. The muck is right along the lines of that
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Post by: bigpike8 on Dec 17, 2012, 03:55 PM
i use the arctic sport muck boot.nice for many reasons.my feet dont get cold in them and if its sloppy on top my feet are dry.i do move around alot but have been up on a small lake in indian lake where it was 30 below wind chill and these kept me warm.just my opinion to get these.you will pay for em but they are great.
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Post by: builderone on Dec 17, 2012, 04:05 PM
I have both lacross burleys and artic sport muck boots. When I go outside for extended periods, I always grab the lacross. Good thing is, the muck boots still look new.  ;D
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Post by: slymer83 on Dec 17, 2012, 04:20 PM
Cant go wrong with the Lacrosse Burlys espically when the ice is slushy and wet
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Post by: yankeeangler on Dec 17, 2012, 04:25 PM
I gotta go with the Mucks. I have a 250.00 pair of Rockys I bought for hunting and I have not put them on since I got my Mucks. And I don't even have the Arctic Mucks.
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Post by: adkRoy on Dec 17, 2012, 04:25 PM
go with Mucks!
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Post by: noelaar on Dec 17, 2012, 04:29 PM
What gram insulation do you guys have in your boot?
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Post by: BigSage on Dec 17, 2012, 04:33 PM
I use Muck - Arctic Pro.  Feet will stay warm to -30, and your feet can't get wet!  I WILL NEVER USE ANYTHING ELSE FOR ICE FISHING
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Post by: yankeeangler on Dec 17, 2012, 04:34 PM
What gram insulation do you guys have in your boot?
I wear the Muck Wetlands. The only insulation they have is the neoprene.
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Post by: Fontona19 on Dec 17, 2012, 04:40 PM
Irish Setter Rutmasters here, and they are without a doubt the nicest thing I have ever owned.

Pac boots are warm, but they cant stay submerged without leaking somewhat.
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Post by: octanehi5 on Dec 17, 2012, 04:46 PM
A good ice boot should be rated at -80 to -100. I like the pac boot, they do need to be sealed with bee's wax once a yr.For standing in more water the muck boots would be better. Right tool for the right job
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Post by: filetandrelease on Dec 17, 2012, 04:50 PM
Cant go wrong with the Lacrosse Burlys espically when the ice is slushy and wet

this is what i wear all ice season with an extra felt in the bottom of the boot
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Post by: just_a_beer_man on Dec 17, 2012, 05:22 PM
I've got lacross burlies in 1200 gram. Love em. Getting he wife mucks for Christmas.
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Post by: Edm87 on Dec 17, 2012, 05:32 PM
Muck boots are great. If I didn't destroy them they will last you.  I have had mine for four years. I used these boots through blow downs and clearcuts they still are dry despite the quarter inch tear I put in the exterior of the boot.  Great set of boots that being said I dont have experience with other rubber boots.
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Post by: s10xr on Dec 17, 2012, 05:34 PM
Mickey mouse boots.  I also wear 800 gram read head burly boots on warmer days.
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Post by: stevek on Dec 17, 2012, 05:45 PM
Check out Baffin Impacts. The 8 layer liners are like walking on air and they aren't to heavy at 3.5 lbs each (size 12). They run a size small.
http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000048.htm (http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000048.htm)

(http://img-1.gearbuyer.com/baffin-impact_snow_boot-mens_color_black_p1_.jpg)


The Lacrosse 2000 gram boots are rated to -80*f, the Baffin Impacts are rated to -148*f. I've never worn the heavy insulated rubber boots, but once I wore the Impacts I don't need to. I will end up with a pair of 1200 rubber boots for hunting and warm weather ice fishing. But when it's cold I'll be sporting my Impacts.
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Post by: drowndin dots on Dec 17, 2012, 06:08 PM
Check out Baffin Impacts. The 8 layer liners are like walking on air and they aren't to heavy at 3.5 lbs each (size 12). They run a size small.
http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000048.htm (http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000048.htm)

(http://img-1.gearbuyer.com/baffin-impact_snow_boot-mens_color_black_p1_.jpg)


The Lacrosse 2000 gram boots are rated to -80*f, the Baffin Impacts are rated to -148*f. I've never worn the heavy insulated rubber boots, but once I wore the Impacts I don't need to. I will end up with a pair of 1200 rubber boots for hunting and warm weather ice fishing. But when it's cold I'll be sporting my Impacts.
Baffins rule  :thumbsup:
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Post by: beavercreekoutdoors on Dec 17, 2012, 06:12 PM
For me, it's Mucks 99% of the time.  Can't beat them, in my opinion...
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Post by: Quackstacker14 on Dec 17, 2012, 06:25 PM
I have a pair of the cabelas Saskatchewan PAC boots and they are warm and kept me dry on a day where we were fishing in4" of water on top of the ice last year.....and they r scent lock so if I ever hunt in cold cold weather I'll be warm too.
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Post by: harrops26 on Dec 17, 2012, 06:57 PM
I use 1200 gram burleys. Same pair for two seasons of ice fishing and deer season. Feet never get cold or wet.
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Post by: mpike2day on Dec 17, 2012, 07:16 PM
I just got my cabelas trans alaskans in the mail the other day.  Have not been able to use them yet this year but have heard nothing but good reviews about them.  I upgraded from a pair of 2000 g itiscas from gander mountain. They made my feet sweat and then they would get cold no matter what sock combo I would try. 
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Post by: harrops26 on Dec 17, 2012, 08:38 PM
I just got my cabelas trans alaskans in the mail the other day.  Have not been able to use them yet this year but have heard nothing but good reviews about them.  I upgraded from a pair of 2000 g itiscas from gander mountain. They made my feet sweat and then they would get cold no matter what sock combo I would try.

I wear very thin wool socks so my feet dont sweet. I carry a pair of heavy socks with me in case its extra  cold  but rarely need them
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Post by: Eaglecrg on Dec 17, 2012, 08:52 PM
Ever since they came out with those chemical toe warmers I haven't suffered from cold feet.  I wear a pair of insulated rubber boots, knee high and if it is going to be cold out I just get a pair of the toe warmers, stick them on the top of my wool socks and put the boots on.  No cold feet.  They last a long time and I've never used more that one in a day.  I used to get forced off the deer stand due to cold feet, but haven't had that happen in years now.  You just need to make sure you have a little extra room in the toe of your boot to accomodate them.
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Post by: smj8322 on Dec 17, 2012, 08:54 PM
I've always wore my 1500 gram Alphaburlys and my feet are always warm. However I think I'm gonna get a pair of the artic sport muck boots for this winter ( if it ever shows up). The rubber on my Alphaburlys is in pretty rough shape
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Post by: lazymanfish on Dec 17, 2012, 09:04 PM
Had good luck with the mickey mouse boots. The black or the white ones will work well even in conditions when inches of water are on the ice.
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Post by: BROOKIEGILLY on Dec 17, 2012, 09:49 PM
Love my Mickey Mouse Boots
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Post by: eyehi on Dec 17, 2012, 10:07 PM
Mickey mouse boots have always kept my feet warm and dry and my feet are usually cold....
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Post by: mpike2day on Dec 17, 2012, 10:37 PM
The thing   I didnt like about rubber boots is they dont breath good.  And your feet are only an inch off the ice.  New ones I got have 3 inches beneath feet.  Hopefully soon I will get to try them.
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Post by: noelaar on Dec 18, 2012, 06:42 AM
Thank you all for the information ill be researching all the suggestions! We'll be out there on Christmas the weather is looking good after friday in the ADK  :tipup: :icefish:
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Post by: mike304 on Dec 18, 2012, 08:01 AM
Like many of the others said, you can't beat the Mucks. Not only do I use them for fishing, I wear them for work almost every day. One of the most comfortable boots I have ever owned. I have, on several occasions, had to walk 2-5 miles through the woods wearing them. they are awesome.
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Post by: upstate bass2 on Dec 18, 2012, 08:58 AM
I have had Muck Arctic Sports for 5 years and love them. Light comfortable and warm enough for me.  I have fished in 10'' of  slush all day and stayed warm and dry. You won't regret buying them.  You will wonder how you fished without them.
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Post by: Irish Jigger on Dec 18, 2012, 11:55 AM
I swiched to lacross burlys a couple years ago and I think they work great. The only problem I had was cold creeping in through the sole from standing on the ice so I cut an old felt boot liner and made inserts to help insulate the bottom of my foot. Another thing I noticed is if the walk is tough and my feet sweat they would get cold when I stopped to sit and fish. To remedy that a good pair of polypropelene socks under my wool socks will wick the moisture away.
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Post by: drfhaha123 on Dec 18, 2012, 01:00 PM
MUCKS  awesome,hanksclothing.com best prices
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Post by: namkcolmeh on Dec 18, 2012, 03:25 PM
I have LaCrosse boots also. Work well, but heavy. Muck boots do not work for me even in early bow season. :tipup:
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Post by: hesseltine32 on Dec 18, 2012, 03:49 PM
I have a pair of cabela's inferno pack boots i look them much more them my rubber boots.
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Dec 18, 2012, 03:59 PM
I have been a pacboot guy all my life and love the Baffin Expeditions....   They are great but a little heavy...   I just got a pair of Muck Arctic Pros that i cant wait to try out....  They are 1/3 the weight of the Baffin's...
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Post by: adkwiley on Dec 18, 2012, 06:01 PM
i wear Bogs.  Same thing as mucks for the most part with 100% satisfaction guarantee.  Great customer service.  I complained about teh camp rubbing off one pair i had and they sent me out a brand new pair the next day and let me keep the old ones no questions asked.  I just recently picked up their blaze 1000's rated to -65.  Very light and comfortable as well as waterproof.
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Post by: IceBalls on Dec 18, 2012, 11:15 PM
If you don't mind spending $250  to  $300 or more for a pair of boots.....that's fine   BUT   No matter how much money you spend, you will never find a better pair of boots to keep your feet WARM & DRY  than MICKEY MOUSE BOOTS  (by Bada).
After more than fifty (yes, 50 ) years on the ice, I will never wear any other boot for warmth, comfort, and dryness.

PS....MICKEY MOUSE BOOTS CAN BE BOUGHT FOR ABOUT $35 TO $40 DOLLARS !!!!  Spend the rest of your money on a nice dinner out for you and the wife (or GF).
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Post by: Icefisher40 on Dec 18, 2012, 11:33 PM
Love my Trans Alaskans!
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Post by: trapper2000 on Dec 19, 2012, 05:23 AM
micky mouses  for  me!
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Post by: stripermancl on Dec 19, 2012, 10:17 AM
lacross alpha i had for 6 years now not one problem only use them for iceing there are 130 bucks rated mi 100 below .very good boot pac 
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Post by: PACKERBACKER on Dec 19, 2012, 03:05 PM
I have an old pair of Sorels that were made in Canada and I still use them all the time. You do need to seal them once a year and I've never had them leak. I also have Trans-Alaskas but find them a little hard to walk in. However, they are warm.
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Post by: kb on Dec 19, 2012, 07:22 PM
My feet are always cold. I have a set of LL bean Maine hunting boots that I've had for over 25 years (whew). When I wear them, my feet are warm and toasty.  They are still waterproof despite the fact that I've never treated them.

If they still made them this way, I'd buy another set in a heart beat just to have a back up.

I just picked up some Mickey's and am looking forward to trying them out. I do have a set of 1000g neoprene mucks from dicks that are ok for early bow, but I wouldn't wear them on the ice for an extended time.
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Post by: edddieo on Dec 31, 2012, 07:00 PM
 :-\ can't seem to keep my feet warm. What do you guys wear I can't wear heavy boots bad knee,I've tried muck,rockys,PAC you name it.thanks
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Post by: octanehi5 on Dec 31, 2012, 07:02 PM
wear a comfortable boot with warmers in them
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Post by: rjhulbert on Dec 31, 2012, 07:06 PM
I would say artic mucks but you said you tried mucks I had issues with my feet too but once I got the mucks haven't had issues since once in a while throwing a little foot warmers for the real cold days
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Post by: rgfixit on Dec 31, 2012, 07:10 PM
Cabelas Trans Alaskas.
ave.wt 5.8lbs/pr

Almost too warm and dry. 6 or 7 years on mine this year.

RG
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Post by: rippem on Dec 31, 2012, 07:11 PM
Try the Sorel Glacier boots they are very warm and rated for 100 below I use them and love them
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Post by: Grady95 on Dec 31, 2012, 07:14 PM
Definitely look at the Muck Arctic Boots.  I have a pair of high ones.  Totally waterproof, no laces, good tread, lightweight, easy on & off,  these have really made the difference for me out there.  They're also great for winter tractor work when you're exposed for long periods to wind and cold.
Love 'em!
Grady
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Post by: travis9791 on Dec 31, 2012, 07:19 PM
go on ebay and get yourself a pair of white mickey mouse boots for under 50 dollars. i promise you you will never buy a different boot again. they are the best boots i have ever owned hands down i have turned many people onto these boots and everyone has said they are the best boots they have ever worn. i usually get my boots from alleghany outlet store through ebay. jost got three pairs for my buddies last week
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Post by: kc_ on Dec 31, 2012, 09:28 PM
I have a pair of boots that are rubber bottom and leather tops. They have a foam pull out liner in them. I believe they came from Cabela's. They were very in-expensive and very warm.
kc
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Post by: DeadEyez on Dec 31, 2012, 10:50 PM
Try the new ThermaCell remote controlled heated insoles.
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Post by: travis9791 on Dec 31, 2012, 10:57 PM
the best part about mickeys is that they have no liners it is all rubber on the inside i have fallen in and filled the boots with water and dumped the boots out wiped them with a towel put them on my feet and spent the whole rest of the day outside
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Post by: coachwarner on Dec 31, 2012, 11:22 PM
go on ebay and get yourself a pair of white mickey mouse boots for under 50 dollars. i promise you you will never buy a different boot again. they are the best boots i have ever owned hands down i have turned many people onto these boots and everyone has said they are the best boots they have ever worn. i usually get my boots from alleghany outlet store through ebay. jost got three pairs for my buddies last week
X2
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Post by: Fisher4Life on Dec 31, 2012, 11:28 PM
Sportsman Guide 2400 gram insulated boots, I too had a hard time keeping my feet warm. Keyword - HAD, those boots are awesome
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Post by: michianafisherman on Dec 31, 2012, 11:41 PM
Baffin-impacts. There is no other to solve cold feet. Rated to -148.   Don't buy white or black mickeys If you have cold feet problems already. The mickeys will get you out there, but you won't stay long. So what you can dump water from the boot and keep on fishing. How about the days when it's one of the coldest days of the year? No chance of a wet foot, only super cold toes. The Impacts will make your day more enjoyable.
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Post by: raate on Jan 01, 2013, 12:01 AM
I've tried muck,rockys,PAC you name it.thanks
Tried all those myself...I now wear cabelas trans alaskans. They have a pocket for chemical warmer built right in them, and I have never had to use the warmers.  ;)

Everybody's foot is different, you have to keep trying different boots until you find the ones that work for you.

I found mine.  ;D
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Post by: buckzone101 on Jan 01, 2013, 12:25 AM
cabelas knee high rubber boots 2000 gram thinsulate, or cabelas pac boot 1200 gram is what i wear but i wear a pair of goriga low heel loggers steel toe non insulated all day long working on the rail and my feet are just as warm as my rubber boots, so im not sure im a big help, but i like my pacs and my rubber boots, for fishing both my knees, and 1 hip are messed up and i dont have an issue with those boots.
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Post by: perchpounder97 on Jan 01, 2013, 12:59 AM
I just got the Cabelas Inferno boot and they are just that! These boots keep my feet toasty warm. They seem pretty light but they are bulky. They are pretty wide. The other day I was on the ice for about an hour with these boots slush covered and my feet were super warm. Sounds like you have pretty picky feet though so maybe you should make a day trip to a Cabelas north or south of Ny and try on a bunch of boots and finish your shopping for ice gear   ;)
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Post by: perch@pans on Jan 01, 2013, 05:26 AM
I have been impressed with Muck boot (woody Max) . Never had cold feet in two years of pretty rugged abuse deer hunting and ice fishing. I am over 300lbs and usually destroy boots in a season but these have fared well light comfortable and warm .  Good lugs and traction for mud also but way to warm for bow season though. They are pricey but foot comfort you cannot put a price on.
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Post by: riot609 on Jan 01, 2013, 05:41 AM
NEO's insulated overshoe covers i haven't tried them but know people who swear by them.
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Post by: gil_lunkage on Jan 01, 2013, 07:37 AM
i have used 1500 thinsulate rubber boots for 10 or so years.  may very well be the best investment i evet made.
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Post by: Trakndwg on Jan 01, 2013, 07:57 AM
Military Surplus "Mickey Mouse" or "Bunny" boots. You can get them in any military surplus store or on line for less than $100.00 (sometimes far less). Open the airvalves on the side all the way open. I've been wearing them for nearly 40 years. I've found nothing else like them. 
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Post by: mealworm on Jan 01, 2013, 08:57 AM
predator extremes or inferno boots at cabelas
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Post by: fl18guy on Jan 01, 2013, 09:05 AM
my vote is for predator extremes. Wanted the baffins, but had a couple of gift cards and needed a road trip to cabelas in ct anyway. Tried on the infernos and some of the mucks, but didn't like the feel of the infernos. Looked at the sorels, but they arent made like that used to be.  Besides the extremes were on sale for 129.97 instore only. With coupons and gift cards, cost me under a 90.00. will post a review after first trip out. Have the black mickeys, and thinkin about getting rid of them, just cant remember what size they are. Kept my feet fairly warm, but some of that was probaly due to heater in shanty. I believe the mickeys are size 12. i will check and post in a few.
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Post by: fishmonger on Jan 01, 2013, 09:12 AM
I've been using the same pair of military surplus "bunny boots" for about 10 years. My feet are NEVER cold-and they're cheap compared to alot of other boots. They are a little heavy though...
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Post by: gvoelkl on Jan 01, 2013, 09:20 AM
predator extremes or inferno boots at cabelas
X2. Love my predator extremes.
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Post by: slymer83 on Jan 01, 2013, 09:36 AM
The artic mucks are warm and dry
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Post by: SNAGGER on Jan 01, 2013, 10:04 AM


  mickey mouse boots, there a little clumsy but you'll be warm...  when I'm fishin in a shanty on warmer days, mucks work descent.  my 2 cents...
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Post by: pa ice swimmer on Jan 01, 2013, 10:11 AM
Got those Alpaca socks for ya Shane, might be up tomm. ;)
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Post by: noflagstoday on Jan 01, 2013, 10:17 AM
cabelas infernos!
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Post by: cuetip123 on Jan 01, 2013, 03:00 PM
my money goes to baffin titan-100  they are all rubber with 8 layer inner liner that is removeable. have had a pair for four years and my feet never get cold.cost is about $100.00 but i got mine on sale at philipsons for $60.00.
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Post by: gil_lunkage on Jan 01, 2013, 04:20 PM
rubber thinsulate, more mgs the merrier...
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Post by: TomPico on Jan 01, 2013, 04:53 PM
mickey mouse boots. ebay. thank me later.
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Post by: Madfishwilly on Jan 01, 2013, 04:55 PM
I hunted and ice fished in a pair of Rocky Buckstalkers for 10 years with just a pair of heavy socks. Last year they finally ripped apart so I replaced them with the new rocky pair of rocky deerstalkers 1400 and again just a great boot one pair of smartwools and that's all you need. Last week I was introduced to a pair of Baffin Apex these have to be the best thing I have ever put my feet in just absolutely amazing. I haven't yet had the chance to use on the ice but from all I have seen wearing them around in the snow and cold they are a great buy. They go for 269.00 on baffin.com but I found them on Amazon for around 189.00.
Hope this helps.
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Post by: michianafisherman on Jan 01, 2013, 05:01 PM
It will help some, but not the hardheads who want to wear antique boots. If I won the powerball I would buy everyone on this site some boots from the future.
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Post by: fishmonger on Jan 01, 2013, 06:04 PM
micky mouse/bunny boots rule!
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Post by: adktony on Jan 01, 2013, 06:26 PM
Went in today with my 1000 gram field and stream rubber boots on today with smartwool socks after I wrung the water out of my socks and dumped the water out of my boot I fished all day np
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Post by: DeadEyez on Jan 01, 2013, 06:30 PM
Only prob ive ever had with neoprene or rubber boots is splitting due to lots of walking during ice season.  On oneida some of the guys do a TON of walking and the rubber boots don't hold up too well.
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Post by: MeatHunter737 on Jan 01, 2013, 07:19 PM
mickey mouse boots. ebay. thank me later.

I was looking at this thread and knew I had to replace my red head insulated rubbers... they got some holes in them from hunting in thorns. Anyway just placed my order on eBay for black Mickey mouse boots, shipping included came to $54.77. I told my wife I don't plan to wear them in the woods, just on the ice....can't wait to try them
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Post by: travis9791 on Jan 01, 2013, 07:28 PM
spend 40 bucks on mickeys i promise you you will never buy any other pair of boots again.
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Post by: Murph20 on Jan 01, 2013, 08:01 PM
Once you go Mickey , you dont go back...
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Post by: cporter on Jan 02, 2013, 09:44 AM
My last pair of Lacrosse boots tore open after the first season, so I stepped up my budget a bit and pulled the trigger the Cabellas inferno pac boots. This will be my 3rd season with them, so far my feet have never been cold.   
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Fishing/Ice-Fishing/Ice-Clothing-Footwear|/pc/104793480/c/104735880/sc/110969280/Cabelas-Inferno8482-2000-Pac-Boots-150-Black/731369.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Ffishing-ice-fishing-ice-clothing-footwear%2F_%2FN-1105958%2B4294769875%2FNe-4294769875%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BBRprd731369%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=SBC%3BBRprd731369%3Bcat110969280 (http://www.cabelas.com/product/Fishing/Ice-Fishing/Ice-Clothing-Footwear|/pc/104793480/c/104735880/sc/110969280/Cabelas-Inferno8482-2000-Pac-Boots-150-Black/731369.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Ffishing-ice-fishing-ice-clothing-footwear%2F_%2FN-1105958%2B4294769875%2FNe-4294769875%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BBRprd731369%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=SBC%3BBRprd731369%3Bcat110969280)
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Post by: craigski1980 on Jan 02, 2013, 03:42 PM
I use muck arctics. knee high and warm.
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Post by: TheThinIce on Jan 02, 2013, 04:09 PM
Since I've been wearing my Arctic Pro muck boots my toes haven't been the least bit cold. I have poor circulation in my toes so my feet would feel the cold before anyone else did, no fun! I even have a pair of expensive thermacell heated liners that I have yet to turn on because my feet just haven't gotten cold. They're lightweight enough that I also use them deer hunting in the cold as well. Get them, you'll be glad you did!  ;)
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Post by: JAGER61 on Jan 02, 2013, 04:35 PM
I use muck arctics. knee high and warm.

x 2 !
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Post by: LarryClutch on Jan 02, 2013, 04:39 PM
You just sold me on the Muck artics.  Amazon here I come!
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Post by: VDueslerIV on Jan 02, 2013, 04:44 PM
i think i got me a new pair of mucks to try out this year..so far they have been good..but we'll see how the hardwater treats em..
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Post by: pikepauly on Jan 02, 2013, 05:14 PM
I have the artic sport muck boots, by far the warmest and dryest, git my sock wet putting them on. Put my boots on an they dried themselves out, best boot ever made
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Post by: edddieo on Jan 03, 2013, 08:27 PM
Thanks guys
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Post by: gdfellajay on Jan 04, 2013, 06:19 AM
get the feet warmers at dicks or walmart they last long and work great
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Post by: OutJigginLakers on Jan 05, 2013, 07:39 AM
For the average days I don't think you can go wrong with a pair of Sorels.  They keep your feet dry and they are breathable. If you plan on going the next day the inserts come out and can be dried pretty quickly. For those nasty near zero days Cabela's Trans-Alaska Pac boot.  They are the warmest boot I've ever put on my feet and the 3 inch sole keeps your feet off the ice.
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Post by: riot609 on Jan 05, 2013, 07:46 AM
another good pointer there  ;) keep yr feet off the ice,make a world of difference in how cold they get. I have a piece of 2" think foam padding that's the length of my jet sled and around 12" wide, supper light wight and fists inside along the edge of my gear, that i place down along the edge of the sled after im all set up works good to keep my feet off the ice and also to place things on for those days that the water on top of the ice, also i can place hooks into the edge of it.
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Post by: s10xr on Jan 05, 2013, 07:49 AM
mickey mouse boots.  when im in my shanty sometimes i wear my 800 redheads. 
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Post by: OutJigginLakers on Jan 05, 2013, 07:53 AM
I like a boot with a rubber bottom and leather upper.  They keep your feet dry and let them breath.  My feet sweat a lot and in an all rubber boot my feet get wet and cold.
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Post by: Cusefan78 on Jan 05, 2013, 07:54 AM
I just got sorrel glaciers and love them. Very warm
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Post by: adkmtnman76 on Jan 05, 2013, 11:57 AM
lacrosse ice kings best boots on the market
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Post by: rlejr on Jan 05, 2013, 03:45 PM
I had the same problem till I tried Muck boots with only one pair of socks. On real cold days toe Warner's work great.
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Post by: southpondveh on Jan 05, 2013, 04:25 PM
hey try mickey mouse boots the military cant be wrong. search the net and found new ones for $69 + shipping wore these for years
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Post by: SizeMatters on Jan 05, 2013, 04:44 PM
Cabelas Trans Alaskas.
ave.wt 5.8lbs/pr

Almost too warm and dry. 6 or 7 years on mine this year.

RG
....and I saw them on sale at Cabela's site last week.
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Post by: jiginjumbos on Jan 05, 2013, 05:56 PM
I just got a pair of Baffin Impact boot from gander mt. in Johntown PA ,mark down half price for $79.99 ,how great is that.................. ...
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Post by: gonephishin on Jan 05, 2013, 06:03 PM
http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/70645?feat=pac%20boots-SR0&page=l-l-bean-pac-boots&attrValue_0=Chocolate%20Brown&productId=1155216 (http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/70645?feat=pac%20boots-SR0&page=l-l-bean-pac-boots&attrValue_0=Chocolate%20Brown&productId=1155216)
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Post by: gonephishin on Jan 05, 2013, 06:05 PM
BTW I realize $240 is alot but being a smoker (poor circulation) and genetically lanky as hell.. i get extremely cold feet, easily. These are worth every penny.
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Post by: brycro on Jan 05, 2013, 06:11 PM
I love my mucks.....feet have never been cold in them.  Mickey Mouse boots work too but are bulky and overkill unless it is extremely cold out.  IMHO.  They do keep your feet warm but do not breathe either so you gotta keep dry socks on hand.  do a lot of walking and your feet will sweat stand still all day and they'll be warm, though 
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Post by: older042 on Jan 05, 2013, 06:19 PM
cabelas polar cap pack boot they are great they are even on sale right now for 76.99 cant beat the price and quality you will never have cold feet again
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Post by: TheThinIce on Jan 05, 2013, 06:27 PM
I have bad circulation and always get cold feet first before most do.
Have you tried the Arctic Pro Mucks? The insulation is much more than their base model.  Also make sure you're boots aren't fitting too tight because that will limit good circulation and breathe-ability which are both key to keeping feet warm.
Look into Thermacell foot warmers as well, pricy but nice.
Good luck.
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Post by: jakep138 on Jan 05, 2013, 06:53 PM
Mickeys all day
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Post by: skowalski250 on Jan 06, 2013, 07:33 PM
I wear Northern or LaCrosse, dosent matter which. With a felt insole in the bottom and that keeps my feet warm all day long. But they only last me a year, but i do wear them every day. Also a good pair of wool socks helps.
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Post by: larrylaker on Jan 06, 2013, 07:42 PM
i have  had army mickey mouse boots in the past looking to buy another pair. the price is right and they are warm not great for walking sides of hills hunting but would be great on ice
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Post by: michianafisherman on Jan 06, 2013, 07:52 PM
i have  had army mickey mouse boots in the past looking to buy another pair. the price is right and they are warm not great for walking sides of hills hunting but would be great on ice
Might try the antique store.
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Post by: edddieo on Jan 08, 2013, 09:42 PM
Tthank  guys I will try
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Post by: Griff on Jan 12, 2013, 06:42 AM
A lot of these boots seem to be very bulky. I'm constantly on the move and I'm just not a fan of walking five miles in clogs. Any suggestions for someone like me?
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Post by: fisherman58 on Jan 12, 2013, 06:48 AM
artic pro mucks for me also lite warm and  comfortable
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Post by: WYIfish on Jan 12, 2013, 04:04 PM
mickey mouse boots.  when im in my shanty sometimes i wear my 800 redheads.

Its hard to beat a pair of surplus boots, especially price. Mine must be good to over 30 below easy.  Drawback, 4 lbs each.
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Post by: kb on Jan 14, 2013, 01:54 PM
My feet get very cold in mickeys, I'm thinking of the trans Alaskan or the predators myself.   My feet are almost always cold tho
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Post by: michianafisherman on Jan 14, 2013, 04:49 PM
My feet get very cold in mickeys, I'm thinking of the trans Alaskan or the predators myself.   My feet are almost always cold tho
We must have the same kind of feet. Get the Baffin impacts.
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Post by: Kierran on Jan 18, 2013, 10:13 AM
I'm a Muck Boot fan. I love my Wetlands for spring through fall and they kept me out of jam on sloppy ice last week. That being said, I'm looking for a warmer pair for all around ice fishing. So should I be going with the Arctic Sport or the Arctic Pro? Thanks.
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Post by: kb on Jan 18, 2013, 10:36 AM
I tried a pair of black Mickey's, My feet were still cold. 
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Post by: michianafisherman on Jan 18, 2013, 11:13 AM
I tried a pair of black Mickey's, My feet were still cold.
Hope everyone reads this!!!!!
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Post by: DougC on Jan 18, 2013, 11:33 AM
These things rock, one pair of socks below zero, not moving much, no problems.

Check out Baffin Impacts. The 8 layer liners are like walking on air and they aren't to heavy at 3.5 lbs each (size 12). They run a size small.
http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000048.htm (http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000048.htm)

(http://img-1.gearbuyer.com/baffin-impact_snow_boot-mens_color_black_p1_.jpg)


The Lacrosse 2000 gram boots are rated to -80*f, the Baffin Impacts are rated to -148*f. I've never worn the heavy insulated rubber boots, but once I wore the Impacts I don't need to. I will end up with a pair of 1200 rubber boots for hunting and warm weather ice fishing. But when it's cold I'll be sporting my Impacts.
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Post by: adkmtnman76 on Jan 18, 2013, 11:38 AM
my lacrosse icekings keep you warm and dry nomatter the temps but I also have a pair of rubbers for sloppy warm days. Can't wear the rubbers when its cold my feet freeze in them
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Post by: mpike2day on Jan 18, 2013, 12:00 PM
my lacrosse icekings keep you warm and dry nomatter the temps but I also have a pair of rubbers for sloppy warm days. Can't wear the rubbers when its cold my feet freeze in them
I agree.  With rubber boots feet don't breathe good.  Insulated pac boots with some space between your feet and the ice is the key.   I mostly use kneehighs for hunting.
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Post by: s10xr on Jan 18, 2013, 12:23 PM
Mickey Mouse boots on ebay.  Get the white ones there warmer.  Best boots ever.  dont need to go into the future for something that works awesome.
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Post by: articat on Jan 18, 2013, 03:29 PM
i just use lacross 1200 and my feet get chilled but i started to use styrofoam sheets under my boots and its alot better
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Post by: michianafisherman on Jan 18, 2013, 05:28 PM
Mickey Mouse boots on ebay.  Get the white ones there warmer.  Best boots ever.  dont need to go into the future for something that works awesome.
I wish there was a top gear show on the coldest day of the year and solve this boot issue once and for all! Those outdated Mickey Mouse boots don't stand a chance against my future boots.
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Post by: jiffybill123 on Jan 18, 2013, 05:39 PM
Mucks are where its at
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Post by: Hobo Hilton on Jan 21, 2013, 04:45 PM
Take a look at Irish Setter for Extreme Cold. IRISH SETTER SNOW CLAW XT. The Boots outstanding.
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Post by: flukeman on Jan 21, 2013, 05:34 PM
I'll be wearing my Lacrosse Ice Kings when I am out fishing in the 1 degree morning we will be having on Wednesday. My feet won't even know it's 1 degree out, they are down right toasty. I do have a pair of Lacrosse Alpha Burly's for those real wet days at the end of the season.
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Post by: Lightsimage on Jan 21, 2013, 06:37 PM
Check out Baffin Impacts. The 8 layer liners are like walking on air and they aren't to heavy at 3.5 lbs each (size 12). They run a size small.
http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000048.htm (http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000048.htm)

(http://img-1.gearbuyer.com/baffin-impact_snow_boot-mens_color_black_p1_.jpg)


The Lacrosse 2000 gram boots are rated to -80*f, the Baffin Impacts are rated to -148*f. I've never worn the heavy insulated rubber boots, but once I wore the Impacts I don't need to. I will end up with a pair of 1200 rubber boots for hunting and warm weather ice fishing. But when it's cold I'll be sporting my Impacts.

Buy Baffin, buy the best.
I've got a pair of Baffin Doug Stoup Polars. Same rating -148. Most comfortable, warmest boot I've ever owned.
Yeah, they're going to set you back a few bucks, but aren't your feet worth it?
http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000122.htm (http://www.baffin.com/product-p/40000122.htm)
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Post by: michianafisherman on Jan 21, 2013, 07:48 PM
And cats love them too!

(http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg161/michianiafisherman/IMG_2703.jpg)
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Post by: Hess on Jan 22, 2013, 08:33 AM
Recently purchased my first pair of Muck Artic Sports -- tried a lot of boots over the years -- I am now hooked on the Mucks -- very warm, 100% waterproof and very comfortable to walk and stand in all day on the ice...!
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Post by: kb on Jan 22, 2013, 09:19 AM
I was looking at the Arctic muck boots, and there doesn't seem to be a lot of boot between your feet and the ice.
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Post by: Hess on Jan 22, 2013, 11:18 AM
There is more material than you think -- whatever it is, it does the job -- we were out Sunday standing for 6 hours in that wind, along with the snow squalls -- feet never even began to get cold, or tired/sore from standing -- best price I found is on the sponsor Muck site above -- $129.95 with free shipping...!
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Post by: Steelhead5678 on Jan 22, 2013, 11:10 PM
I've had the same pair of Sorel boots for 20+ years, leather uppers, rubber soles, with the same insulated insert that came with them. Bought em at Dick Sports for about $59 at the time and they are still going strong. Course you can't buy them at that price anymore but the point is that Sorels last, period. I'm reading about these boots that are good to minus 80 degrees, well....I've ice fished when it was minus 8 degrees and not many are going to be out there at those temps so why waste your money on that kind of overkill?
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Post by: drowndin dots on Jan 23, 2013, 06:28 PM

BAFFINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  LIKE WALKING ON A CLOUD AND FEET NEVER GET COLD EVEN ON THE WORST BELOW ZERO DAYS
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Post by: mpike2day on Jan 23, 2013, 07:19 PM
Cabelas trans alaskans. Its like you have warmers inside.  Best boots I have used icefishing so far.
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Post by: Buschfisher on Jan 24, 2013, 06:15 AM
I wear 2000 gram rockys fishing and they are very warm for work I wear muck artic sports and think they would be plenty warm also
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Post by: pikepauly on Jan 24, 2013, 11:54 AM
The article sport muck boots are warm as hell, only need a mid weight sock fir this boot
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Post by: gooners on Jan 25, 2013, 07:13 PM
Hi all, just joined the site. I picked up a pair of military surplus mickey mouse boots on ebay a couple of years ago. If you don't mind some extra weight, they're hard to beat for around 30 bucks for a brand new pair. The black ones are rated to -20 degrees.
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Post by: NY_trout_nut on Jan 25, 2013, 07:52 PM
military mickey mouse boots www.sportsmansguide.co m best boots i ever used for ice fishing they are a little on the heavy side
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Post by: michianafisherman on Jan 26, 2013, 03:37 PM
Just got home from fishing with my friend who has the white mickeys. Fished from 6:30 am to 3:00 pm outside no shanty. His feet got cold and I got him to admit it. He did hang in there and would of stayed longer, or tough it out, but my baffins were good in the mild weather. Regular socks, no sweat or wet feet. Walked around in about three inches of slop from the melting snow but no leaks and my boots are not new. I know I will never convince someone who has used the mickeys their whole life to change now, but I hope to show fellow fisherman that there are better options for cold feet.
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Post by: kyle870 on Jan 27, 2013, 05:46 AM
If you can find apair of white WWII mickey boots get them for what they cost theres nothing out there like them for sitting static on the ice  Wouldnt want to go cross country hiking them  heavy and your feet would get  hot.
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Post by: travis9791 on Jan 27, 2013, 07:18 AM
Just got home from fishing with my friend who has the white mickeys. Fished from 6:30 am to 3:00 pm outside no shanty. His feet got cold and I got him to admit it. He did hang in there and would of stayed longer, or tough it out, but my baffins were good in the mild weather. Regular socks, no sweat or wet feet. Walked around in about three inches of slop from the melting snow but no leaks and my boots are not new. I know I will never convince someone who has used the mickeys their whole life to change now, but I hope to show fellow fisherman that there are better options for cold feet.

180 dollars for baffins. or 30 dollars for mickeys.  hmmmmmmmmm
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Post by: michianafisherman on Jan 27, 2013, 07:48 AM
You can't wear two or three pair of mickeys to keep your feet warm. There are days if I could of put more mickeys on the same foot I would have done it. Price is only what pain you are willing to put up with to save a little cash. Cash for what? A new pole? A new Vex? A new coat? Oh, how bout hundreds of jigs at a buck a piece? The baffins I use only cost 130 online. Size 14. I will say I would tell first timers who aren't very committed to the hobby and only go out a few times a year mickeys will work fine, but not if you go everyday and stay out extended periods of time. If a person simply doesn't have the money is one thing, but to have all the other ice fishing goodies, shanties power augers, etcetera, I don't buy the cost argument.
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Post by: bigsunny on Jan 27, 2013, 08:00 AM
I own the same Baffins, Mickey's and Artic Mucks.  in my opinion the Mickey's are the warmest but also very heavy and awkward.  if I know I'm going to be fishing in a shanty or moving around a lot I wear the mucks.  The mucks are light and warm.  The Baffins are actually my third choice but a very god boot.  I actually like the baffin APEX better, again just my opinion.  This also from many years of working outside in the cold as well.  Field and Stream did an article on Alaskan trappers a couple years ago and many of them stated that they wouldn't leave home without a pair of mickeys........
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Post by: travis9791 on Jan 27, 2013, 01:26 PM
You can't wear two or three pair of mickeys to keep your feet warm. There are days if I could of put more mickeys on the same foot I would have done it. Price is only what pain you are willing to put up with to save a little cash. Cash for what? A new pole? A new Vex? A new coat? Oh, how bout hundreds of jigs at a buck a piece? The baffins I use only cost 130 online. Size 14. I will say I would tell first timers who aren't very committed to the hobby and only go out a few times a year mickeys will work fine, but not if you go everyday and stay out extended periods of time. If a person simply doesn't have the money is one thing, but to have all the other ice fishing goodies, shanties power augers, etcetera, I don't buy the cost argument.

over the last 10 years i have spent many hours on the ice in my white mickeys. I have been out all night and all day in -10 and still NEVER had cold feet. If i did i would gladly spend more on different boots. I have all the ice goodies you speak of. I just don't see spending five times the price on boots if mickeys will do the job. Im sure the baffins are warm but I can  guarantee you baffins won't take the abuse i put them through.  Just look at all the alaska shows they all have mickeys on.
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Post by: michianafisherman on Jan 28, 2013, 05:06 AM
Out all day and night, I would say in a shanty? I also forgot to mention the fact I wear cheap socks in my Baffins. Add that to the cost of the mickeys. Need at least two pair of twenty to thirty dollar socks to keep fishing.

It depends on how you use your boots as to how they perform. They work for some but the posts don't say they had their feet up against the wood stove or over a lantern. I am telling you guys I have used both, outside, no shanty and inside with a shanty. I will admit the mickeys will get you there and back, but there is better without the fuss.
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Post by: kb on Jan 28, 2013, 05:37 AM
Everyones feet are different.  What works for one person, may not work for the next.  I've had cold sweaty feet all my life, then I went through a nasty round of chemo that really messed up my nerves in my feet and hands.  Now I have to wear socks to bed at night to keep them warm.

My next pair will have to have to be roomy enough for a handwarmer in the toe area.  Im thinking about the Cabelas Trans alaska or predator boots.  I hear good things about them and they are on sale right now.

Opinions?
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Post by: FISH2163 on Jan 28, 2013, 04:36 PM
I switch to Muck Arctic Pros about 4 years ago. Great boot and well worth the investment. I use them for everything from snow blowing to ice fishing to playing outside with the kids. If anything, my feet get a little to hot if I'm up and moving around a lot. I've had multiple pairs of Lacrosse Burly Air Grips over the past 20 years and they worked well, but there is a no comparison between them and the Muck Boots. The Muck Boots are light, comfortable, and do a much better job keeping your feet warm.
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Post by: edddieo on Feb 13, 2013, 07:12 AM
 thanks ill try them ;D
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Post by: triskel on Feb 13, 2013, 09:05 AM
I use Kamik.  They have an arctic model which has kept my feet dry and warm.  I use them as well in my deer stand and never had a problem.  There are no laces to  fumble with.  Slip on and slip off.  My yak-trax also fit nicely around them as well.  i have a cabelas pak boot inferno but they are too stiff to be running around chasing flags...great for the woods not the lake.

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Post by: stevek on Feb 13, 2013, 09:13 AM
I used to wear mickys, never got cold feet but they are very heavy and clumsily large. Not to mention if your sock ever slips down they will wear a hole in your leg very fast. I have Baffin Impacts now and would recommend them highly. Not only are they lighter and warmer, they are much more comfortable and that makes a big difference too.
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Post by: Hess on Feb 13, 2013, 09:29 AM
I purchased my first pair of Muck Arctic Pros this year -- been very pleased with them -- fully waterproof, very warm, good support for standing all day and very lightweight -- important if you want to be mobile and do alot of moving around -- no problem running for tip-ups in these boots!  Best price I found was using the Muck link above on Ice Shanty.com -- as you go through the check-out process -- click on online price comparison -- came back with $129.95 with free shipping...!!
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Post by: noelaar on Feb 14, 2013, 08:39 AM
I know this helped me out hopefully its helping everyone else!!
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Post by: kb on Feb 14, 2013, 01:33 PM
I tried mickeys again today because I knew it was going to be wet and sloppy. Again my feet were cold. I guess for some they work, and some they don't.  For the little money I spent on them, I had to give them a try.  I've wasted $40 on a lot less

I might try the arctic pros next.
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Post by: michianafisherman on Feb 14, 2013, 01:39 PM
I tried mickeys again today because I knew it was going to be wet and sloppy. Again my feet were cold. I guess for some they work, and some they don't.  For the little money I spent on them, I had to give them a try.  I've wasted $40 on a lot less

I might try the arctic pros next.
Do the Baffin Impacts one size over your regular and don't look back. Let your enemies borrow your Mickeys.
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Post by: noelaar on Feb 15, 2013, 08:27 AM
I recomend the lacrosse 2000 gram boots a wee bit pricey but you wont regret it one bit!
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Post by: roostertail on Feb 15, 2013, 04:39 PM
Muck Arctic Sport. I've got a pair, but when I bought mine I took a heavy pair of socks with me to try them on so I would be sure to get the proper size, and I love them. When it gets really cold I put a pair of the adhesive backed foot warmers on my socks before putting my boots on. I also never put my boots on until I'm leaving the truck to fish, I have an old stretched out pair of boat shoes that I wear until ready to leave the truck. I bought mine at a local feed store last spring on a close out, they were under $100.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: kb on Feb 15, 2013, 07:01 PM
Good price.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 11, 2013, 03:42 PM
I read this entire thread and did a bunch of reading and here’s what I found out.
The most popular boots are
1.   Muck Boots
2.   Mickey Mouse Boots
3.   Lacrosse Burleys
4.   Baffin Impacts
5.   Cabelas Trans Alaskans
6.   Baffin Impact
7.   Sorels (I picked the “Glaciers” as being at the top of the line)


Here are the specs.

Muck Boots:

Arctic Pro

Professional Extreme-Conditions Sport Boot
All the standard MUCK BOOT™ features plus:
•   Fleece lining
•   Stretch-fit topline binding snugs leg to keep warmth in and cold out
•   8mm CR flex-foam bootie with four-way stretch nylon, 100% waterproof, lightweight and flexible
•   Bob-tracker molded outsole is rugged, aggressive and durable for maximum protection and stability
•   Double reinforcements on the instep, heel and achilles areas
•   2mm thermal foam underlay added to the instep area for additional warmth
•   EVA molded midsole with contoured footbed
•   Reinforced toe
•   Added toe protection with a wrap-up bumper
•   Comfort range of -60° F to 40°F 

Mickey Mouse Boots:

World-renowned "Mickey Boots" are 100% rubber with thick wool insulation all around.Add in an insulating air pocket, all sandwiched between the layers of rubber.
Presto! Warmth rated to -20°F! Rugged nylon laces go through the second eyelet twice to lock your foot in place. Gusseted tongue, heel wedge accepts ski or snowshoe bindings.
The interior is nylon lined for easy on / off. High-traction soles and heels, and double-thick rubber in all wear areas. Built-in altitude air valve pressurizes the Boot when our troops are airborne. It's a handy feature... if you parachute in to watch penguins. Each approx. 11 1/2"h., 53 ozs. Condition: brand new, army surplus, never issued.



LaCrosse® 18" Burly® Rubber Boots

The 100% waterproof, ozone-resistant rubber construction is proven to be reliable in demanding environments. Nylon-net lining with AgION™ antimicrobial protection. Removable EVA footbed. Fiberglass shank. Contoured ankle-fit design. Cam-Loc™ buckle adjustment accommodates all calf sizes and keeps moisture out. Polymeric Foam Insulation. Air-grip outsole. Imported.
Height: 18".
Average weight: 5.3 lbs./pair.




 
Cabela's Trans-Alaska™ III Pac Boot

From the Iditarod trail to the treestand, these boots have proven they are true cold-weather performers. A 13mm Texel® removable liner reflects heat inward to minimize loss. Beneath that, the Moisture Trap footbed wicks away perspiration and condensation. A 1/2" layer of EVA foam, coupled with the nylon-covered Phylon midsole, puts 3" of cold-blocking material between your feet and the ground. The tough, flexible vamps are protected by a triple-layer, abrasion-resistant toe guard, and the rubber toe cap ensures longer wear. These boots have a reflective, lightweight waterproof shell with lightweight, reflective nylon shafts. Radiantex™ reflective coating. The 8" liner allows for pants inside the boots, and the rip-stop nylon gaiter has a cord-locked drawcord to keep out snow. They're easy to tighten, thanks to a one-pull ball bearing lacing system. Inside, a heat pack pocket allows you to insert toe warmer heat packs.
Height: 15".
Average weight: 5.8 lbs./pair.



Baffin Impact:
RATING -100°C/-148°F
BASE Integrated Arctic Flex rubber base
INSOLE Waffle sole and reflective “air bubble” underfoot
OUTSOLE Premium polar rubber
LINER 8-layer inner boot system with Thermaplush
UPPERS Timberwolf leather and Diamond-Lite insulated nylon



Sorel Glacier:

This durable, weather-defying boot is perfect for keeping feet warm, dry and protected in deep snow and extreme cold; in addition to a waterproof rubber shell, it features a water and wind resistant upper, built-in gaiter and removable 13mm ThermoPlus™ felt inner boot.


Construction:

Durable water and wind resistant PU backed synthetic textile upper
Built-in gaiter with barrel lock closure system
Removable 13mm ThermoPlus™ felt InnerBoot
25mm bonded felt frost plug
Removable 13mm Sorel Meltdown Midsole™
Handcrafted waterproof vulcanized rubber shell
Sorel AeroTrac™ non-loading outsole
Shaft Height: 16 in / 40.6 cm
Weight: 42 oz / 1191 g
Sorel rated: -100° fahrenheit / -73° celsius
Imported

Fabric:

UPPER
PU backed synthetic textile
LINING
13mm Thermoplus felt
MIDSOLE
13mm Sorel Meltdown Midsole
SHELL
Vulcanized rubber
OUTSOLE
Sorel AeroTrac

Conclusions:

An ice fishing boot should be completely waterproof, warm, and comfortable.  Not all of these boots are completely waterproof and of those that are completely waterproof, due to design flaws, they will not stay waterproof.  Of those that are completely waterproof, not all of them are comfortable. 
From looking at all the specs. and reading the reviews it comes down to the Muck and Baffin Boots.  The Baffin Boots appear to be more comfortable, however the Muck Boots appear to be the more durable.
   
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: raate on Mar 11, 2013, 09:01 PM
I read this entire thread and did a bunch of reading and here’s what I found out.
The most popular boots are
1.   Muck Boots
2.   Mickey Mouse Boots
3.   Lacrosse Burleys
4.   Baffin Impacts
5.   Cabelas Trans Alaskans
6.   Baffin Impact
7.   Sorels

Conclusions:

An ice fishing boot should be completely waterproof, warm, and comfortable.    ;D  Not all of these boots are completely waterproof and of those that are completely waterproof, due to design flaws, they will not stay waterproof.  Of those that are completely waterproof, not all of them are comfortable. 
From looking at all the specs. and reading the reviews it comes down to the Muck and Baffin Boots.  The Baffin Boots appear to be more comfortable, however the Muck Boots appear to be the more durable.
   
Read all the reviews you want!

Now go out and buy and wear out each of those boots on your feet...like some of us have.

Then you will realize there was one,  that was perfect for your foot.

Your foot, is different than MY foot.

My foot is perfect for the Trans Alaskans.  ;)
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: kb on Mar 11, 2013, 09:36 PM
I picked up the Muck Arctic Pro and like the convince of the slip on, but still wonder how warm they will be when it gets cold again.

I got a good deal locally and figured what the heck. 

My toes were cool even though it was only mid 20's that morning.  I re-read the tags on the boots, and realized that they read for ACTIVE warmth.  I guess they won't be too good for late season deer hunting in the stand.   For walking and moving they'll be warm.

Ill keep them for a back up pair, but not my main wears.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 12, 2013, 04:12 AM
Read all the reviews you want!

Now go out and buy and wear out each of those boots on your feet...like some of us have.

Then you will realize there was one,  that was perfect for your foot.

Your foot, is different than MY foot.

My foot is perfect for the Trans Alaskans.  ;)
I posted this for myself and others to compare specifications.
Since I can't possibly buy and wear every type of boot listed above, I can only rely on research and opinions. 
Remember, that all of the above boots, and some not listed, are first rate boots. 
Most of the people that posted here listed only the positive aspects of their boots. 
I am hoping to get feedback from the same people as to how long their boots stayed waterproof, how long they lasted, and how they performed.  Just like the post directly above this one. 
Apropos of that, I bought the Sorel Alpha Pac boots three years ago.  They were waterproof for two years, then due to poor design, they are no longer.  Don't buy them.


Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: kb on Mar 12, 2013, 05:21 AM
I also tried the black Mickeys. Not good for me.

My toes were cold on warmish days. They are big and clunky as well.

They don't come up too far, and my pants ended up getting wet from snow and slush.   

Not too comfortable either (for me).  Glad I didn't pay allot for them.  If anyone local wants a set real cheap,  PM me for the size and we can set something up.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 12, 2013, 04:02 PM
Read all the reviews you want!

Now go out and buy and wear out each of those boots on your feet...like some of us have.

Then you will realize there was one,  that was perfect for your foot.

Your foot, is different than MY foot.

My foot is perfect for the Trans Alaskans.  ;)
By the way, how long have you had the Trans Alaskans and are they still waterproof?

And I just noticed that the Baffin Impact specs. don't say that they're waterproof.  Anybody know if they are and how long they stay that way?   
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: mpike2day on Mar 12, 2013, 06:42 PM
+1 on trans alaskans. Warmest boots I have ever wore.  Cabelas has lifetime warranty also.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 13, 2013, 03:44 AM
+1 on trans alaskans. Warmest boots I have ever wore.  Cabelas has lifetime warranty also.
How long have you had them and are they still waterproof?
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: mpike2day on Mar 13, 2013, 06:27 AM
One season and yes still waterproof. Lifetime warranty.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 13, 2013, 03:29 PM
One season and yes still waterproof. Lifetime warranty.
They look like a great boot.  A lifetime warranty is all good, but like my old mechanic used to say, "Sure, Craftsman tools have a lifetime warranty, but I can't be bothered with taking back.  I buy tools that are going to last."   
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: mpike2day on Mar 13, 2013, 03:47 PM
Personal opinion. I like craftsman.  And cabelas is awesome with returns.  Good luck with whatever you try.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: kb on Mar 13, 2013, 04:39 PM
My next set will be the preditor extremes or the trans alaska's.

I also like craftsman tools.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Whopper Stopper on Mar 13, 2013, 05:40 PM
What a thread !

      WS
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: raate on Mar 13, 2013, 09:00 PM
By the way, how long have you had the Trans Alaskans and are they still waterproof?

On my second pair...First pair I wore three seasons, they were still waterproof, EXCEPT...I wore a hole on top of the boot in the laces from constant rubbing in the snowmobile stirup...  My fault.

On my second pair now for two seasons... @) Still waterproof. I still wear the first pair if it is not slushy or, if I am taking the machine. no sense in ruining another pair the same way.  ;)

I loved the Alpha Burlys...my ankles didn't...I have scars from walking too many miles in them, and one beaver chew will rip a hole so fast in them ... :'(

Mickeys were never comfortable for me. Warm, yes, waterproof? Only as high as they are.

Mucks were waterproof and warm..NOT comfortable. I gave mine to a guy I didn't like. He loves them!  >:D

Baffins did alright for me...kept me warm, dry as toast,(can't remember deep slushing in them though..)  wrong design for my foot to be comfortable , again...  My son is wearing them now that he grew into them!

Sorels were not tall enough to wade through the local slush, and BOTTOM of my feet got cold in them....We stand on ice all day...you need insulation UNDER your foot, like the Trans Alaskans HAVE.  ;) ;D Most boots will keep you warm to and from a shanty with a floor... ::)

If you use your boots, you are going to have to replace them....Not happy with the last pair you wore out...try a different kind! Then you find the one that works best for your foot, and your style of use.

I refuse to hike without a broken in pair of Asolo 520 GTX's......If they still made Longitudes, I would be wearing them. If I knew they were going to stop making Longitudes...I would have bought 20 pair and stashed them!

Other hikers have their favs as well...

It all depends on YOUR FOOT....your foot is different shape and arch then the next guys...Not every "good" boot is good for everybody. You need to find what is good for you.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 14, 2013, 04:02 AM
On my second pair...First pair I wore three seasons, they were still waterproof, EXCEPT...I wore a hole on top of the boot in the laces from constant rubbing in the snowmobile stirup...  My fault.

On my second pair now for two seasons... @) Still waterproof. I still wear the first pair if it is not slushy or, if I am taking the machine. no sense in ruining another pair the same way.  ;)

I loved the Alpha Burlys...my ankles didn't...I have scars from walking too many miles in them, and one beaver chew will rip a hole so fast in them ... :'(

Mickeys were never comfortable for me. Warm, yes, waterproof? Only as high as they are.

Mucks were waterproof and warm..NOT comfortable. I gave mine to a guy I didn't like. He loves them!  >:D

Baffins did alright for me...kept me warm, dry as toast,(can't remember deep slushing in them though..)  wrong design for my foot to be comfortable , again...  My son is wearing them now that he grew into them!

Sorels were not tall enough to wade through the local slush, and BOTTOM of my feet got cold in them....We stand on ice all day...you need insulation UNDER your foot, like the Trans Alaskans HAVE.  ;) ;D Most boots will keep you warm to and from a shanty with a floor... ::)

If you use your boots, you are going to have to replace them....Not happy with the last pair you wore out...try a different kind! Then you find the one that works best for your foot, and your style of use.

I refuse to hike without a broken in pair of Asolo 520 GTX's......If they still made Longitudes, I would be wearing them. If I knew they were going to stop making Longitudes...I would have bought 20 pair and stashed them!

Other hikers have their favs as well...

It all depends on YOUR FOOT....your foot is different shape and arch then the next guys...Not every "good" boot is good for everybody. You need to find what is good for you.
Now that's what I call research and analysis.  Those are the sort of reviews that we need.

Barring the fact that everybody's feet are different, a "good" boot should be long lasting, in addition to comfortable, warm, and waterproof.
When I read about a guy that says he's worn the same boots for 30 years (5 or 10 should be enough), I want to know what kind of boots he's wearing, and what he's using them for.               
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: raate on Mar 14, 2013, 06:12 AM
Now that's what I call research and analysis.  Those are the sort of reviews that we need.

Barring the fact that everybody's feet are different, a "good" boot should be long lasting, in addition to comfortable, warm, and waterproof.
When I read about a guy that says he's worn the same boots for 30 years (5 or 10 should be enough), I want to know what kind of boots he's wearing, and what he's using them for.             
He must watch a ton of television and spend all his fishing time on the internet..... :P


 ;D

The Sorels I owned were NOT 15 inches tall either.... ::) I thought I still had them buried in a closet here somewhere, I just went and looked for them so I could measure them....the wife must have throw them out.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 14, 2013, 03:30 PM
He must watch a ton of television and spend all his fishing time on the internet..... :P


 ;D

The Sorels I owned were NOT 15 inches tall either.... ::) I thought I still had them buried in a closet here somewhere, I just went and looked for them so I could measure them....the wife must have throw them out.
Back in the day, all the boots were Pac boots with leather uppers.  Mink oil or bee's wax them and you were good to go.  And they lasted a long, long time.
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Post by: WalleyeTom on Mar 15, 2013, 04:51 PM
I like my $30.00 Baffin with felt liner.  Fit good and keep "my" feet warm and dry.   

You guys from NY kill me with all the talk about - 40, -60, -100 boots.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: BobOlink on Mar 16, 2013, 10:28 AM
x2 on the Trans Alaskens, Going on 5 yrs now and still warm and dry.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 16, 2013, 10:39 AM
I like my $30.00 Baffin with felt liner.  Fit good and keep "my" feet warm and dry.   

You guys from NY kill me with all the talk about - 40, -60, -100 boots.
How long have you had the Baffin's and are they still waterproof?

Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: WalleyeTom on Mar 17, 2013, 08:55 AM
I wear the Baffins for ice fishing, hunting,  quading and walking the dog.  I wear out a pair about every 2 years.   Usually I get a cut in the side or across the top of the toe, then they are tossed out.  They are worn about every day from Oct. thru to April.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: michianafisherman on Mar 17, 2013, 08:48 PM
I don't understand why guys seam to wear out boots faster than others? Perhaps we should make boot users show pictures of there work shoes and see if its things like walking on the sides of their feet. If it is something like the side of the tennis shoe is broken? Might be not so much a difference in feet as much the way each of us walk on our own two feet. The way we may drag or not pick up our feet when we walk. Or while standing, to let our feet roll to the side. The amount of weight may make the biggest problem with pack boots. Smashing the liner and not to mention the ankle support not built into this type of boot. So what I am saying for everyone, is that reading all this boot chit chat is hard to figure, but more than feet are not the same.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 18, 2013, 03:56 AM
I don't understand why guys seam to wear out boots faster than others? Perhaps we should make boot users show pictures of there work shoes and see if its things like walking on the sides of their feet. If it is something like the side of the tennis shoe is broken? Might be not so much a difference in feet as much the way each of us walk on our own two feet. The way we may drag or not pick up our feet when we walk. Or while standing, to let our feet roll to the side. The amount of weight may make the biggest problem with pack boots. Smashing the liner and not to mention the ankle support not built into this type of boot. So what I am saying for everyone, is that reading all this boot chit chat is hard to figure, but more than feet are not the same.
Barring an accident, such as a cut in the boot from an auger or a beaver chewing on it, wear-out will occur due to the amount of use, the type of foot, or poor design. 
What we need on this thread is to weed out poorly designed boots, and find well designed boots.
If you've had boots that wore out ahead of their time due to poor design, lets hear about it.
If your boots are holding up due to good design (i.e., stayed waterproof, and the seams and material kept their integrity) lets hear about it. 

The Sorels Alpha Tracs are poorly designed, and destined to fail.
       
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: kb on Mar 18, 2013, 04:03 AM
If you wear a boot every day, it's going to wear out faster then if you only wear it on the weekends when you hunt or fish.  I wear work boots everyday for work, and the soles are shot in a years time.  My fishing/hunting boots are 20+ years old, and are just getting around to needing to be replaced.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: raate on Mar 18, 2013, 07:26 AM
If you wear a boot every day, it's going to wear out faster then if you only wear it on the weekends when you hunt or fish.  I wear work boots everyday for work, and the soles are shot in a years time.  My fishing/hunting boots are 20+ years old, and are just getting around to needing to be replaced.
;) You are correct.  I fish just about every day... ;D

Two seasons of ice fishing for me, is equivalent to 20 seasons for some guys .  @)

In the summer I go through two pair of Perry Docksiders every charter season...12-14 hours a day being wet, they don't last as long as the ones worn by weekend warriors sitting at the dock.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 18, 2013, 03:25 PM
Stay focused.  Which ice fishing boots stay waterproof, are warm, comfortable, and long lasting?

Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: raate on Mar 18, 2013, 04:27 PM
Stay focused.  Which ice fishing boots stay waterproof, are warm, comfortable, and long lasting?
These ones?  ::)

1.   Muck Boots
2.   Mickey Mouse Boots
3.   Lacrosse Burleys
4.   Baffin Impacts
5.   Cabelas Trans Alaskans
6.   Baffin Impact
7.   Sorels (I picked the “Glaciers” as being at the top of the line)
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: perch@pans on Mar 18, 2013, 07:26 PM
Here is my extra .02 cents I am 6' 345lbs and wear a size 14 eeee I buy boots that fit before any type of loyalty. That being said most boots last maybe a season hunting and icefishing . I destroy boots!!!  Tried on a pair of the boots with the "extra " give to put on  knelt down and the calf seam just separated! I have had this pair of Muck Boot Woody Max  for two seasons and have NEVER had a lighter warmer more supportive and comfortable boot ever hands down!  180 $ made me balk for "pack" boots but well worth it. I have worked in Lacrosse side buckles,   lace ups and many commercial boots and shoes always 6 months max Red wings wolverines etc .  These particular boots are   Just too hot for early bow season and summer.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: michianafisherman on Mar 18, 2013, 08:22 PM
If you wear a boot every day, it's going to wear out faster then if you only wear it on the weekends when you hunt or fish.  I wear work boots everyday for work, and the soles are shot in a years time.  My fishing/hunting boots are 20+ years old, and are just getting around to needing to be replaced.
I have work boots over three years old. I use Danner workman. I am in a factory and walk from end to end of the 50,000 square foot. Over, under, you name it, my boots get used. I am six foot 200 lbs and I walk correctly. I know this because I check the bottoms of my shoes for wear. Something my dad would kick me in the hind end if I walked funny in front of him when I was a kid. Thanks dad!
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Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 19, 2013, 03:50 AM
...Tried on a pair of the boots with the "extra " give to put on  knelt down and the calf seam just separated!
Which boots were those?
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 19, 2013, 03:52 AM
These ones?  ::)

1.   Muck Boots
2.   Mickey Mouse Boots
3.   Lacrosse Burleys
4.   Baffin Impacts
5.   Cabelas Trans Alaskans
6.   Baffin Impact
7.   Sorels (I picked the “Glaciers” as being at the top of the line)
And if you've worn all of the above, or some of them, which ones are the longest lasting, while staying waterproof in your opinion? 
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: Grumpyoldman on Mar 19, 2013, 03:55 AM
I have work boots over three years old. I use Danner workman. I am in a factory and walk from end to end of the 50,000 square foot. Over, under, you name it, my boots get used. I am six foot 200 lbs and I walk correctly. I know this because I check the bottoms of my shoes for wear. Something my dad would kick me in the hind end if I walked funny in front of him when I was a kid. Thanks dad!
I need a pair of work boots and I'm going to remember that.  Dad's have strange ways, I know, I am one.   
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Post by: kb on Mar 19, 2013, 06:07 AM
Ill check out Danners next time, but I walk in concrete/blacktop/stone allot and it wears soles really down quickly. 

Thanks
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Post by: dairyman on Mar 19, 2013, 11:16 AM
I , for one would not wear a set of sorrels.  I had a pair many years ago and my feet were always cold.  Right now I have a set of the white bunny boots.  I think I paid $60 for them and they have been good to me.  I did buy a pair of ice cleats to put on the bottom for early ice and that helped tremendously
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Post by: raate on Mar 19, 2013, 06:35 PM
And if you've worn all of the above, or some of them, which ones are the longest lasting, while staying waterproof in your opinion?
Cabelas Trans Alaskans...
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Post by: mpike2day on Mar 19, 2013, 10:11 PM
The best.
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Post by: Nosaj on Nov 11, 2013, 08:22 PM
I had a pair of low end Sorrels for 18 yrs and finally wore out the sole.  The last 2 years I have bought a pair of Kamiks  and Sorrels and have pierced the rubber toes on one pair and cut the toe on the other.  I did not notice when I did the damage on either pair.  The rubber on my old Sorrels was much thicker and damage resistant.

What boots have a tough toe.  I was thinking the Infernos..

Any thoughts?
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Post by: Nosaj on Nov 12, 2013, 09:15 AM
Does anyone have experience with the Cabela's Polar Cap boots?

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=749361&destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct.jsp%3FproductId%3D1217229%26type%3Dproduct%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26searchPath%3D%252Fcatalog%252Fsearch.cmd%253Fform_state%253DsearchForm%2526N%253D0%2526fsch%253Dtrue%2526Ntk%253DAllProducts%2526Ntt%253Dpreadator%252Bboots%2526x%253D-806%2526y%253D-51%2526WTz_l%253DHeader%25253BSearch-All%252BProducts%26Ntt%3Dpreadator%2Bboots%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&WTz_l=YMAL%3BIK-813749
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Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Nov 12, 2013, 02:43 PM
mickeys black or white last me the longest with being waterproof and no liner to wear out.ive had them over 6 years so far. my lacrosse ice kings cracked after 2 years. my ithasca boots have lasted but the liners are junk along with not being very waterproof.after my next pair of mickeys I might try some mucks.
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Post by: Grumpyoldman on Nov 13, 2013, 01:52 PM
Does anyone have experience with the Cabela's Polar Cap boots?

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=749361&destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct.jsp%3FproductId%3D1217229%26type%3Dproduct%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26searchPath%3D%252Fcatalog%252Fsearch.cmd%253Fform_state%253DsearchForm%2526N%253D0%2526fsch%253Dtrue%2526Ntk%253DAllProducts%2526Ntt%253Dpreadator%252Bboots%2526x%253D-806%2526y%253D-51%2526WTz_l%253DHeader%25253BSearch-All%252BProducts%26Ntt%3Dpreadator%2Bboots%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&WTz_l=YMAL%3BIK-813749
I haven't tried the boots in question.  It has been pointed out on another thread that Cabela's is not good with boot returns.   
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Post by: Nosaj on Nov 13, 2013, 06:52 PM
I think this is going to be a purchase I do not make on line....at least not until I try some on in person

Thanks for all your research

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Post by: Grumpyoldman on Nov 14, 2013, 09:24 AM
The guarantee on the boots is not an online shopping issue.  The Cabela's guarantee is for the lifetime of the product.  Cabela's determines how long that lifetime will be.  In the post entitled "Don't buy Cabela's", the gentleman returned his $80 boots to Cabela's within 2 years (?) due to stitching coming loose.  They offered him $40 for them, he spoke up and they offered $60 in gift certificate.  That's a poor "lifetime" guarantee.

We don't expect boots to last a lifetime, but we don't accept their falling apart within two years unless we wear and beat them so much that they fall apart. 
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Post by: Nosaj on Nov 14, 2013, 10:50 AM
That is good to know.

Thanks
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Post by: Burtess on Nov 23, 2013, 07:58 PM
I am wearing either Kamik Ultralight Pack boots (same as Oslo) and Baffin Titan's.
Both are rated to -100F.
With lots of water on the ice I wear the Titans, lots of walking I wear the Kamiks.
Both are very warm in all conditions I have encountered.

Burt :)
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Post by: BlueDuck on Nov 24, 2013, 10:08 AM
I have read all the threads and am surprised there has been no mention of Steger Mukluks.  I have had a pair for 25 years and love them.  Light as your bedroom slippers and warm.  I discovered them when I ran sled dogs 25-30 years ago.  They are made by Will Steger's wife Patti.  Will went to the north pole by dog team back in the day, so they should know a thing or two about warm boots. 
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Post by: slamminsam on Dec 04, 2013, 06:50 PM
Baffin titans...not pretty, little bulky, but dry andWARM...guaranteed !!!  I have the coldest feet in the world and these are the only ones  that worked for me.  You can get them for under 100$
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Post by: big scott on Dec 13, 2013, 04:35 PM
read all the reviews .... I've had mickey's for years, uncomfortable as hell. I've worn sorels for years now, but they are not waterproof when standing in 6-8" of water and slush, and my feet on occasion have been cold.... this year I bought an Eskimo 949i, but I am in the market for knew boots also.
Today I went to the local Sam's to try on and compare the Mucks/AlphaBurley's ...

-The Muck's don't appear to be very rugged but were very comfortable, and I worry about the neoprene where it meets the rubber that it's waiting to blow apart.

-The AlphaBurley's went on much easier and felt good but the width wasn't enough which hurt the side of feet while walking around the store...unfortunately the store didn't  have the next size larger .....

I still have yet to decide, but i'm leaning towards the lacrosse.
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Post by: mpike2day on Dec 13, 2013, 04:39 PM
The nice thing about PACs is your feet will breath better. Rubber boots don't breath good and your feet stay wet when you sweat. 
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Post by: Buschfisher on Dec 31, 2013, 06:45 AM
bought the muck arctic pros this year and wear them every day for work and am going to wear them fishing plenty warm and comfortable actually little to warm for work
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Post by: WYIfish on Dec 07, 2014, 08:16 PM
mickeys black or white last me the longest with being waterproof and no liner to wear out.ive had them over 6 years so far. my lacrosse ice kings cracked after 2 years. my ithasca boots have lasted but the liners are junk along with not being very waterproof.after my next pair of mickeys I might try some mucks.

I have had my black mickies for 22 years (what'd he say?). They weigh a ton, but are warm and I can stand in slush all day long.  With the ATV, I never walk much so the weight isn't so important standing around catching fish. I bought them for $40, a bargain for the years of use.

If they get wet in side at the end of the day, put dry rice or dry wheat in over night. Works like a champ.

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Post by: icebucketjohn on Dec 19, 2014, 12:43 PM
DON'T BUY COLUMBIA BOOTS!

Whatever your boot decision, never purchase boots by COLUMBIA.  I purchased a pair of Columbia Bugabootoo's a couple of years back. They failed shortly after my purchase where the rubber separated from the leather uppers.  I sent them back for Warranty repair and/or replacement.  They sent them back stating in a few words: "Tough Luck".,. no warrany authorized.

They didn attempt to make it right or an alternative solution... Discount coupon on another pair, etc.

Since then, I havent purchased one darn thing that has the Columbia Logo.

I DON'T RECOMMEND COLUMBIA PRODUCTS AT ALL., ESPECIALLY THEIR FOOTWEAR.
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Post by: mpike2day on Dec 23, 2014, 11:36 AM
Cabelas trans Alaskans are the warmest ones to date for me. And your feed won't feel wet like with rubber knee high boots.
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Post by: italianice77 on Dec 27, 2014, 09:25 AM
look, i'v worn pac boots and mickey's they are good IF..you don't plan on moving alot and they are heavy if you got alot of snow, as far as someone saying they breath better than rubbers i don't think so...,if you have cotton socks you are gonna sweat and get cold. You gotta have a good sock, one that doesn't hold your sweat(a wool blend or under armour type) As far as comfort and warmth goes, and you can use them for deer hunting too, Rubber insulated is the way to go.
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Post by: BASSQUATCH on Jan 16, 2015, 12:50 PM
perhaps this thread is too old ::) i will see if i get any members to join a new thread.
just read the entire post. Still not sure which way to go. Baffin titans, too warm, feet sweat, cold toes. Muck arctic pro , less sweating, still cold toes. Uhg
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Post by: fisherman58 on Jan 16, 2015, 12:58 PM
i read this from the beginning,, i had to temp seal my old conquest sorels  finally started leaking last seasons slush .. i like them still only 400grams thinsulate but i use hand warmers ..i'.m a 10.5 and 11.5 fit perfect ..enough room to move my toes with a good blend wool sock cushion wicking high tec sock i guess ..cabelas got them for 16.00 ,, any way aquasealed where the rubber meets the leather last season..this weekend ,,i had brand new cabela trans alaskan size 11  boots i thought i was  going to use but out of the box they felt so tight , i said no way and put them back in the truck..luckily i brought along my old pair of sorel conquests on this outing too. Sorels seem okay for now..aquaseal is amazing sealant for emergencies like waders rubber boots,so far to date still waterproof and feels like a durable bond. I called Cabelas and they said they will honor return with no chanrge for return shipping. I was looking at the inferno 2000 on sale 127.00 but afraid to order size 11 knowing the transalaskans 11 was so tight.. I do not think  i want to risk ordering size 12 knowing my foot size is 10.5 ..  ??? i guess i will call Cabelas and find out what they may offer.. i know shoebuy and zappos has pac boots with free both way shipping policy. I guess it is how you tell them.. exchanges they usually charge unless the product is defective or made defective(including sizes no true to fit)

the trans alskans are great only wear mine when its below 0 alot of boot to lug around(heavy)
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Post by: mpike2day on Jan 30, 2015, 08:51 AM
I have the trans Alaskans in size 12. My not size is 10.5 and 11's were to tight. The 12s fit great with one set of nice socks.  Its hard to find creepers that will fit so I put hex head screws in the bottom and they work awesome.
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Post by: carcus1 on Feb 03, 2015, 06:26 AM
Baffin titans are the best ice fishing boot period, I have arctic mucks, acton adventurers, sorel pack boots, and the titans stand out, super comfort all day, easy drying even if you don't have a boot dryer, easy on and off, real rubber, only con is they are huge in the calf area so your pants my not fit over them, I have striker bibs, they fit over, buddy has AA they also fit over
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Post by: Smelt Head 47 on Feb 03, 2015, 08:53 AM
What gram insulation do you guys have in your boot?
I have 800 gram, which are plenty for me just got to wear the right socks so your feet don't sweat.
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Post by: mpike2day on Feb 03, 2015, 02:39 PM
#1 for me cabelas trans Alaskans.  Little bulky but not too heavy. Best boot I have tried to date. Feet used to get cold not anymore.
Title: Re: Rubber insulated boots vs. Pac boot please help!
Post by: mpike2day on Feb 03, 2015, 04:18 PM
And with rubber feet sweat and doesn't evaporate.
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Post by: mpike2day on Feb 03, 2015, 07:18 PM
yes but if that is what you got and you want to insure warm toes, just toss a handwarmer in before you go out..also wear only one quality long pair of merino blend pac boot socks..they are designed to help with sweaty feet  but, the warmers should suffice all day no matter. I would of coarse go with a felt boot slip on with rubber during really slush conditions .. my Baffin hunters are rated minus 70 but are totally water proof.. I would toss in hand warmers if I planned standing in ice slush all day.
Cabelas trans Alaskans don't need any hand warmer hey are that warm. They have 3" between your feet and the ice. This help a lot. Never used the Baffin's. All I know is knee highs for me don't cut it ice fishing, hand warmer or not.  Plus who wants to use a footwarmers evertime you fish? 
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Post by: willisdotcom on Feb 07, 2015, 04:53 AM
after a really bad experience with a higher dollar pair of pac boots only lasting me half of a season if that(rubber shredded and cracked all over), and customer service telling me it was my fault, i kept putting shoe goo on them until i decided what boots i was going to order next.  i did the shoe goo for about a month and it only lasted a few outings on the ice before leaking again.

 i was walking through walmart to get more goo when i happened to see some clearance boots for 30 bux that i figured would get me through the rest of the season and retire the pac boots hassle.  well that was 2009 or 10 and i am still wearing those 30 dollar boots and they are warm and holding up good still.  i will wear them until they fall apart and then i will get some baffin titans.  when i got them i had googled them and found that they were actually exactly same as some other higher dollar brand boot, but i can no longer remember what brand it was.  they have herman survivors 1000g thinsulate and i think are rated to -40 or so.  i even wear them in spring and fall walking in water fishing and they have never leaked at all.  it is not very often you get a good pair of shoes or boots from walmart, but these seem to be the odd ball that will last.  i will say that the tags on them are all wacky though, mine say 12 on them on some parts and 11 on others and 1 spot says 13.  i usually wear a 12 or 13 depending on brand.  i saw the odd tags when i bought them and made sure they were same length and fit right before i actually paid for them.  they fit perfect , but i really don't have a clue which of the size tags were right, but again they fit perfect so i didnt care.  i went back to get a second pair the next day, but they sold out.  they were all the same size that they had left so figured a spare pair couldnt hurt at that price.  this is a link to the boots i just found online for reference.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mens-1000g-Thinsulate-Hunting-Fishing-Camo-Wellies-Snow-Rain-Wellington-Boots-/261321869588
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Post by: 1moslab on Mar 02, 2015, 09:28 AM
I have the muck muckmaster ,its comfortable but it is hard to get pants over.if I am standing in the snow for 15 min I feel the cold I would say they are comparable to sneakers.they are rated for -20 which is a absolute joke.i do not have the slightly heavier ones rated for -60 .after over 10 years of leak free warm feet performance my cabelas pack boat,i think the predator,have developed cankles and need replaced.not sure if I will go cabelas again or try the lacrosse ice kings.i cant imagine buying boots that I had to put handwarmers in
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Post by: Gills-only on Mar 02, 2015, 12:17 PM
I have the muck muckmaster ,its comfortable but it is hard to get pants over.if I am standing in the snow for 15 min I feel the cold I would say they are comparable to sneakers.they are rated for -20 which is a absolute joke.i do not have the slightly heavier ones rated for -60 .after over 10 years of leak free warm feet performance my cabelas pack boat,i think the predator,have developed cankles and need replaced.not sure if I will go cabelas again or try the lacrosse ice kings.i cant imagine buying boots that I had to put handwarmers in
      Do you put your pants outside your boots?  I tuck pants inside boot, then zip striker bibs over the outside of everything!
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Post by: 1moslab on Mar 02, 2015, 01:29 PM
I bought them to run around when snow is on the ground.i could never were them ice fishing.last time we had a 2 hr drive so I wore them to drive and my feet were freezing.now these are not the arctic pros but they are not warm at all.
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Post by: 08megacab on Mar 02, 2015, 05:49 PM
I have the Arctic Pros and was out on the ice all day Saturday. They never got cold but they did sweat a little on the walk out and the walk way in. Not saying that Muck boots are for everyone because their not. I put my pant legs inside to keep from the water getting to them, but I also tried them on the outside and a pain in the butt to pull down around.......
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Post by: 9huskies on Nov 06, 2015, 06:41 PM
      Do you put your pants outside your boots?  I tuck pants inside boot, then zip striker bibs over the outside of everything!
I don't wear street clothes under my bibs, just a base layer and fleece mid layer. My bibs and jacket are uninsulated Gore-Tex.
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Post by: 52isntbigenough on Nov 19, 2015, 10:48 AM
This is sorta a tough one because different areas in the country see different conditions.  I primarily fish NE Wis and we get a healthy dose of snow with slush under it, but we get a solid helping of bitter cold. The rubber boots, I've used Muck are great for seasonal days. My go to boots are LaCrosse Hunt Pac Extremes. 2000Gs and waterproof. I got them for less than 40.00 and have never looked back.

(http://i.imgur.com/hrSK3A6.jpg)
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Post by: iceman260 on Nov 29, 2015, 01:46 PM
Use to use sorel high artics toasty warm but not waterproof bulky and hard to walk in on snow. Switched to muck artic pro's warm and dry easy to walk in.
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Post by: Uncle Al on Dec 20, 2015, 07:22 AM
I've worn the same pair of sorels for 35 years, can't bring myself to give them up. Have never had cold feet. Mink oil rubbed on them once or twice a winter kept them in excellent shape. The soles have disappeared and now I have hex head metal screws in there, and the heels for traction. They are a PITA to walk in, so I only wear them when on the snowmobile, which is the only way I go fishing. I wear regular insulated boots in the truck and change them when I get to the spots I fish. Forgot to change them one time last winter and couldn't figure out why my feet were cold, then I saw that I had the regular boots on. I don't know what to buy because of all the variety that's out there. Maybe the sorels will last a few more years.
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Post by: Rustyfa on Dec 26, 2015, 09:22 AM
How do the Muck Artic Pros fit?  I'm a 10.5 or 11 depending on the shoe.
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Post by: hardwater diehard on Dec 26, 2015, 09:29 AM
How do the Muck Artic Pros fit?  I'm a 10.5 or 11 depending on the shoe.

Fairly true to size...I would suggest two things go to a local retailer to test your size with the other Muck models with your sock/liner set up and/or order a size larger ...I  like to wear a liner and a wool sock ...a size larger will give you more layering options ..love my mucks ...slip on/off and are warm.
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Post by: Rustyfa on Dec 26, 2015, 02:48 PM
Thank you