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Four Americans fined for over-fishing on Rice Lake
Peterborough This Week
Four American residents have been fined $11,900 for fishing offenses on Rice Lake.
On Jan. 12, Daniel Lee Arp and William John Hilinski, both of Erin, Tennessee, and Joseph Paul Hilinski and Robert William Hilinski, both of Glenshaw, Pennsylvania, pleaded guilty to having an over-limit of fish and packaging fish in a way that they could not be easily counted. Each was fined $2,475 for the over-limit and $500 for improper packaging. Each man is also banned from angling in Ontario for three years. The fish and a cooler were forfeited to the Crown.
The incident took place on June 25 when MNR officers were inspecting anglers leaving cottages in the Rice Lake area.
The four men were stopped and their vehicle was found to have a large cooler attached to it. In the cooler, conservation officers found multiple bags of frozen fish, most marked bass and walleye. Officers suspected an over-limit of walleye and seized the cooler and its contents. Once the contents were defrosted, officers counted 49 walleye. This was an over-limit of 33 fish as the men could only possess four walleye each.
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Its these kind of lowlife scumbags thats hurting both the fishi populations and the entire sport.Hope they don't let the scumbags do a plea deal. Should have conficated everyting they had. Good job to the Ontario MNR Officers.
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Wow, what color were they using?
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Expensive trip boys....like the 3 year banning penalty....nice touch!! :clap: :thumbsup:
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$11,900 ........hmmmmmmm...... .Canadian or American :-\
Rg
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$11,900 and they kept the cooler.friggen canadians
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I wonder how many days they were fishing.
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I wonder how they thought this was even acceptable. How would one explain this to their child, their boss at work, or their friends and neighbors?
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Probably allowed to have one days limit in possession and they nailed there azzes on their way home with a few bags of fish.
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The story doesnt say how long they were there?
They were staying in a cottage. Doesnt sound like a day trip to me.. The fish (all 49) were frozen solid, to the point where they needed to be thawed to be counted. 4 dudes at 4 fish per day could put 48 fish in that cooler in a 3 day weekend trip.. Is it possible they miscounted by 1.. Sure is...
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wow, kinda tough limits... does that mean that if they stayed at a lodge and fished for a week, that they could only keep 4 walleye each for the entire week? Maybe they were thinking that they could keep 4 fish each per day. Oh well, doesn't matter since they pleaded guilty. Pay up boys, it's a costly mistake. I guess it makes sense to know what the limits are and to stick to them.
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Not stiff enough of a penalty in my opinion. I wouldn't allow them back for at least 5 years.
Of course we don't remember the old times when people were really penalized for their actions. We have gotten ""civilized"". but people would be hanged for stealing horses or killing someone. Since those days are gone people think they can get away with anything. If there is a law against something it has been broken over and over and over again.
On a second offense of breaking any law people should have harsh penalties.
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We use to camp at a place on Rice Lake years ago. Normally at the end of August during the algae bloom. Never caught a walleye though. We would buy a CONSERVATION license as it was cheaper. The license states 3 per day and 3 IN POSESSION!!!!!! After 1 week I could only take 3 home but caught and kept if eaten 18. Never saw the DNR all the times there but I wasn't breaking the law. ALSO if someone not driving were to drink a beer on the boat on the water they could get ticketed for an open container.
Kim :tipup: :icefish:
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Sounds like an honest mistake to me. None of them were local, and possibly their first time there. Doesnt make it right, but dont think we should chop any hands off for it.
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Know the rules and regulations. No excuses!
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Sounds like an honest mistake to me. None of them were local, and possibly their first time there. Doesnt make it right, but dont think we should chop any hands off for it.
Read the last paragraph closer. They mislabelled fish packages, over limit 33 fish..... We hear of this sort of thing up here all the time. Scum trying to get away with something, their fine is a slap on the wrist.
"The four men were stopped and their vehicle was found to have a large cooler attached to it. In the cooler, conservation officers found multiple bags of frozen fish, most marked bass and walleye. Officers suspected an over-limit of walleye and seized the cooler and its contents. Once the contents were defrosted, officers counted 49 walleye. This was an over-limit of 33 fish as the men could only possess four walleye each."
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The story doesnt say how long they were there?
They were staying in a cottage. Doesnt sound like a day trip to me.. The fish (all 49) were frozen solid, to the point where they needed to be thawed to be counted. 4 dudes at 4 fish per day could put 48 fish in that cooler in a 3 day weekend trip.. Is it possible they miscounted by 1.. Sure is...
It doesn't matter how long they were there...It is a 4 fish limit per person in possession.....We used to fly into Canada frequently and you could only bring home a days limit...It's the same for Simcoe...We eat some nice fish dinners while we are there and are happy to bring a limit home...
It sounds like they didn't leave the skins on like you are suppose to...
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Doesn't really matter how long the ban is. In my experience, those who are willing to flaunt the limit laws are usually willing to chance fishing without a license during the ban as well.
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Know the rules and regulations. No excuses!
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boy you google it and there is a big problem up there with poaching.they should crack down hard on it with both the americans that go up there and do it and all the Canadians doing it.
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boy you google it and there is a big problem up there with poaching.they should crack down hard on it with both the americans that go up there and do it and all the Canadians doing it.
I go to Canada every season for ice fishing, had a fish cop check us before that had a dog trained to sniff out fish. Guess the locals hid the whitefish in the snow and that's what the dogs for according to the fish cop. Funny part we where fishing in a blizzard and the fish cop got lost and checked on us twice in 1/2 hr. Had a special enclosed sled for the dog getting pulled by the snowmobile. Been pulled over before also by the fish cops checking our limits, they see those US tags and think it's an easy ticket.
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Read the last paragraph closer. They mislabelled fish packages, over limit 33 fish..... We hear of this sort of thing up here all the time. Scum trying to get away with something, their fine is a slap on the wrist.
Not saying it was right. Canada's reg. are clearly written in the reg. book you get when buying a license.One day limit in possession and to leave skin on for id purposes.No were do I see in the last paragraph does it say they miss labeled packages.Just says labeled Bass and Walleye.It's very possible they had Bass in there possession also.
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Yep, if they Knew the regs and limits then it's a good bust. Same thing happens here in PA during the hunting seasons. Guys used to come from out of state to hunt illegally in PA because the fines were less than our non-residential tags were... and our non-res tags aren't that expensive. They jacked up some fines, but not enough. It's still cheaper to poach. >:(
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2 types of licenses Sportmen bigger limits.....Conservatio n smalier limits ...slot limits... you have to watch...
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$11,900 and they kept the cooler.friggen canadians
That's funny! ;D
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IMO they shouldn't be allowed a license again. It isn't difficult to obey the bag/possession limit. Once you catch the limit, you stop. Pretty simple. The fine also seemed a little light. Hopefully the fine money goes directly to help maintain the fishery.
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Wow, what color were they using?
;D Following for color
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;D Following for color
I did chuckle when I read this...Well done.
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That's horrible! Hate to see people abusing their awesome rights to ice fish.
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I fish Rice Lake twice a year and really makes me mad when people do that. Iit makes American's look greedy and not repsect the rules of the Country you are in. I think they should be banned from fishing in Canada the rest of there life. Not sure why anyone would do that.
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I don't care where they where from,taking more than allowed and get caught you pay the price,ignorance is no excuse.
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I completely agree we don't need some bad Americans going up there and poaching when they are having such a problem with their own countrymen poaching.
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Not near harsh enough !!!
Life time ban from Ontario and
should have taken the vehicle as well !
Always plead ignorance when caught eh !!!!!
I never surprises me when a looser commits a crime people try and rationalize why !!!!
They bought licences, should have known the limits and followed them !
Criminals . Period !
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For those confused. I'm not sure how it works in your states or provinces, but in Ontario, there is a daily limit and a possession limit. The possession limit is usually double your daily limit. If they had consumed fish on the trip, then those fish obviously are no longer in your possession.
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That's horrible! Hate to see people abusing their awesome rights to ice fish.
Not sure how much ice fishing happens on Rice lake in June...my guess would be zero
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Chute82,
I saw that one too. Probably thinking North Pole. Good Catch..........
Kim :tipup:
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For those confused. I'm not sure how it works in your states or provinces, but in Ontario, there is a daily limit and a possession limit. The possession limit is usually double your daily limit. If they had consumed fish on the trip, then those fish obviously are no longer in your possession.
The bold underlined part is in most cases incorrect.
In most cases the possession limit is your daily limit.
This can very on where fish were caught and in some rare incidences it is 2 times the daily limit. Perch is a good example where your possession limit is twice your daily limit in most cases. For walleye the provincial limit is six but they can not exceed any fish from a zone above the daily limit where the limit is less than six fish. For example although you can have 6 walleye in possession in Ontario no more than 4 (sport fishing license) can from Zone 17 (where Rice lake is).
Even though the provincial limits may exceed your daily limit (possession or daily) in some zones you can not exceed your possession or daily limit with fish from the same area.
This may seem confusing to some but fully reading the Provincial Regulations should clear this up.
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I love threads like this. One pops up on pretty much every fishing board at least once a year. Everyone loses their minds, "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS", "$12,000 isn't enough", "How can they face their family", "What scumbags". Yet post a thread inquiring about how to get into Canada after a DUI and you'll get a bunch of sympathetic responses. A DUI is $700 and you lose your license for six months, a speeding ticket is a couple hundred and you get docked some points. I know people who aren't here anymore because of drunk driving and speeding, how many people do you know who are dead from some idiots overbagging?
A little perspective goes a long way.
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Yet post a thread inquiring about how to get into Canada after a DUI and you'll get a bunch of sympathetic responses. A DUI is $700 and you lose your license for six months, a speeding ticket is a couple hundred and you get docked some points.
And in Canada DUI is a criminal offense.
"A little perspective goes a long way".
Also consider it in the other direction.
Getting into the US with a Canadian DUI can be next to impossible.
First off as it's a criminal offense so getting a passport is greatly restricted.
Even with a pardon for a Canadian DUI the US doesn't recognize the Canadian pardon.
Far more than a one sided argument that extra restrictions are be placed on US citizens.
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I love threads like this. One pops up on pretty much every fishing board at least once a year. Everyone loses their minds, "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS", "$12,000 isn't enough", "How can they face their family", "What scumbags". Yet post a thread inquiring about how to get into Canada after a DUI and you'll get a bunch of sympathetic responses. A DUI is $700 and you lose your license for six months, a speeding ticket is a couple hundred and you get docked some points. I know people who aren't here anymore because of drunk driving and speeding, how many people do you know who are dead from some idiots overbagging?
A little perspective goes a long way.
So you think these guy's were unjustly fined? Just because one thing is worst then the other this should be forgotten? A crime is a crime. I really think all crimes should have harsher penalties. There wouldn't be as many crimes if they were. I think a person that litters the countryside should spend some time in a jail. OK go ahead and say it. That is too harsh. Maybe we should just make them clean it up and give them a participation ribbon.
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I think the fines were appropriate for the crime.i would be surprised if they did it again knowing they could get caught.i think taking their vehicle is just ridiculous then they would have to stay in Canada and keep eating your walleye :o ::) ::)
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If they got caught way over their limit this time, how many other times have they done it? It is not overreacting when you are can't respect the rules that govern the fishing industry and hopefully allow plenty of fish for future generations. If you break them, then I don't think losing your license for the rest of your life is going too far. If you don't have severe consequences, then a lot of people would do it, thus no the fish could be depleted. What amazes me is how people don't respect nature and the rules that govern it. Stick with what happened and don't compare it something outside of that.
I love threads like this. One pops up on pretty much every fishing board at least once a year. Everyone loses their minds, "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS", "$12,000 isn't enough", "How can they face their family", "What scumbags". Yet post a thread inquiring about how to get into Canada after a DUI and you'll get a bunch of sympathetic responses. A DUI is $700 and you lose your license for six months, a speeding ticket is a couple hundred and you get docked some points. I know people who aren't here anymore because of drunk driving and speeding, how many people do you know who are dead from some idiots overbagging?
A little perspective goes a long way.
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Absolutely DVB !
Most of us have been taught to follow the rules from a very young age, you would think that as adults participating in a sport that is a privilege not a rite, they should know full well what was right from wrong .
And isn't it convenient to cry ignorance when caught !
I have seen enough poaching and reported more than a few to the MNR and it just boils my blood to read other sportsmen trying to make excuses for these criminals.
They are not only making all Americans and fishermen in general look bad but they are intentional depleting a resource that is not theirs for the taking !
There's no excuse !
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Not stiff enough of a penalty in my opinion. I wouldn't allow them back for at least 5 years.
Of course we don't remember the old times when people were really penalized for their actions. We have gotten ""civilized"". but people would be hanged for stealing horses or killing someone. Since those days are gone people think they can get away with anything. If there is a law against something it has been broken over and over and over again.
On a second offense of breaking any law people should have harsh penalties.
In Minnesota the penalties for overfishing are an absolute joke, the restitution is like $5 per fish or something ridiculously low. Glad Canada actually takes that stuff seriously.
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Amen to hitting them hard. When they PURPOSELYmarked the baggies a different species of fish then they knew they were illegal. Even if you fish for pan fish up there you still have to leave some skin on to identify it. People actually would drive from the Midwest to fish all week long to take home 500 plus fish, which were legal.....
Kim :tipup: :icefish:
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glad they caught the scumbags
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Stuff like this really brings out the keyboard warriors.
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Read the last paragraph closer. They mislabelled fish packages, over limit 33 fish..... We hear of this sort of thing up here all the time. Scum trying to get away with something, their fine is a slap on the wrist.
A 3,000$ fine for 8 extra fish is a slap on the wrist? There must be gold in them there walleye!!
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Holy cow, you guys are ruthless. :o I think they are totally in the wrong in this case, and they sure paid for it. You guys saying its easy to stay within the law, get real. I would bet I break a law every single time I step out the door. We are so over regulated there is no possible way not to. I try my absolute best to stay within the law, and not because of the possible fines, but because I am a decent human being with a strong moral compass.
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they should have mailed them to themselves back home at the end of each day. problem solved.
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It is easy to stay within the law, you just do it! Quit making excuses for inappropriate/illegal behavior. And quit blaming the govt for all your problems when you break the law. Probably 99% of laws are on the books because someone couldn't do the right thing on their own.
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Sounds like an honest mistake . We should flood Ontario with all the left wing nut cases from Hollywood .
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And in Canada DUI is a criminal offense.
"A little perspective goes a long way".
Also consider it in the other direction.
Getting into the US with a Canadian DUI can be next to impossible.
First off as it's a criminal offense so getting a passport is greatly restricted.
Even with a pardon for a Canadian DUI the US doesn't recognize the Canadian pardon.
Far more than a one sided argument that extra restrictions are be placed on US citizens.
FYI. Its the other way around. A Canadian with a DUI can travel to the US with little issue as long as they are truthful upon inspection. Other Criminal Offences its very hard.
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FYI. Its the other way around. A Canadian with a DUI can travel to the US with little issue as long as they are truthful upon inspection. Other Criminal Offences its very hard.
I seen that not to be the case at all.
With a Canadian DUI (criminal record) you are not eligible for a passport.
No passport = no entry.
How long ago did you witness this?
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Sounds like an honest mistake . We should flood Ontario with all the left wing nut cases from Hollywood .
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Some states have tough laws though, like cheek meat counts as a seperate fish,..... that is just plain mean
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Next time those guys should stop in Indiana and bluegill fish instead. They could keep all they catch...be that 10 or 10,000 .
By the way, I'm all for a limit on bluegill in Indiana....just can't get the IDNR to do anything, but say "we are looking into it"
Paul
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Still no color used being reported? ;)
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Works for me :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Also ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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Try reading the Minnesota fishing regulations book. Just that alone is enough to make your head spin. The regulations are not worth it, keep your rights in Indiana.
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Daily bag limits & possession limits are a pretty easy concept. These guys knew what they were doing, fine was appropriate.
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The regulations are absolutely worth it. Otherwise we wouldn't have any fish left to catch at all. Duh. smh
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Try reading the Minnesota fishing regulations book. Just that alone is enough to make your head spin. The regulations are not worth it, keep your rights in Indiana.
Head spin? Seems pretty simple to me. Never had any trouble staying legal.
In my experience, the same fisherman who are clearly breaking the law and who claim they can't understand to regs are really just too lazy to look at them.
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Are you kidding me? They change every year, and I read the regulations book multiple times a year. Just from a pike fishing perspective. You can use suckers bought from a bait store, but last year I saw something about suckers over 10" you need to have a receipt. I don't see it now, but it may or may not be buried in the fine print. If you trap your own bait you can only use them on that lake, but wait, minnows are most easily trapped in streams. So if your favorite lake doesn't have a stream you are SOL. If you have suckers over 12" they have to be alive. What am I supposed to take all my bait one by one and measure them? You can readily use a single hook and play the the balancing act of a missed fish vs a gut hooked one. One year you could use a treble hook as long as it had a spinner above it, but then you couldn't. Now you can use any hooks, but only up to three, and they can't be more than 9" apart. That's right, every commercial quick strike rig currently made is illegal in the state of Minnesota. According the the regulations a quickstrike rig has to have leads 4.5" or shorter to be under the 9" maximum. Who's business is it what rig you use anyway, especially when its a redundant law when you can't use multiple baited hooks on a line anyway? Daily limit of 3 pike seems reasonable until you realize the state is littered with lakes of which have their own special regulations. And what ever happened to splitting the state into 3 areas and making central MN a limit of 10? Was that last year? You can set out tip ups, but they have to be within 200'. So if you set out multiple are you breaking the law when you go to catch a fish? And that's just ice fishing. Bringing a boat into it and you start talking about rules that are 15 years too late. I've seen multiple times last year guys get turned away at launches for having rainwater in their boat.
Trust me, you break a law every time you walk out that door, go to work, go fishing, heck you can't even legally build a shed in this state without jumping through hoops.
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Head spin? Seems pretty simple to me. Never had any trouble staying legal.
In my experience, the same fisherman who are clearly breaking the law and who claim they can't understand to regs are really just too lazy to look at them.
I disagree. I think those people are the ones that look for ways to cheat the system. THey know what is legal and act like they don't.
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Your absolutely rite Lefty !
I'm nominating them for the Golden Globes !
Actors !!
Definitely not sportsmen !
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Wow, what color were they using
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We had this happen with a bunch of doctors and lawyers from New York.
They came to fish the famous Kenai River in Alaska.
Day one they had 33 or 36 red salmon over their limit. And they did not even posses fishing licenses.
Next day same place and they got caught again 30 some fish over their limit and still didn't have fishing licenses.
These guys were actually caught while still fishing on the river. Who knows when they would have stopped fishing.
It's a shame whenever people cannot follow the rules as in the end this hurts us all by destroying our fisheries.
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We had this happen with a bunch of doctors and lawyers from New York.
They came to fish the famous Kenai River in Alaska.
Day one they had 33 or 36 red salmon over their limit. And they did not even posses fishing licenses.
Next day same place and they got caught again 30 some fish over their limit and still didn't have fishing licenses.
These guys were actually caught while still fishing on the river. Who knows when they would have stopped fishing.
It's a shame whenever people cannot follow the rules as in the end this hurts us all by destroying our fisheries.
. I was up there (Kenai river) in late 70's and I think limit was one fish a day if I remember right!!
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Maybe if it the rules are to hard to follow you should stop participating in the sport, since its a self regulating system till your caught !
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Completley agree. If you don't understand the rules - then ask the MNR or in Ohio ODNR. Not that hard to follow and you only have yourself to blame if you don't understand them and brake the law.
Maybe if it the rules are to hard to follow you should stop participating in the sport, since its a self regulating system till your caught !
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Are you kidding me? They change every year, and I read the regulations book multiple times a year. Just from a pike fishing perspective. You can use suckers bought from a bait store, but last year I saw something about suckers over 10" you need to have a receipt. I don't see it now, but it may or may not be buried in the fine print. If you trap your own bait you can only use them on that lake, but wait, minnows are most easily trapped in streams. So if your favorite lake doesn't have a stream you are SOL. If you have suckers over 12" they have to be alive. What am I supposed to take all my bait one by one and measure them? You can readily use a single hook and play the the balancing act of a missed fish vs a gut hooked one. One year you could use a treble hook as long as it had a spinner above it, but then you couldn't. Now you can use any hooks, but only up to three, and they can't be more than 9" apart. That's right, every commercial quick strike rig currently made is illegal in the state of Minnesota. According the the regulations a quickstrike rig has to have leads 4.5" or shorter to be under the 9" maximum. Who's business is it what rig you use anyway, especially when its a redundant law when you can't use multiple baited hooks on a line anyway? Daily limit of 3 pike seems reasonable until you realize the state is littered with lakes of which have their own special regulations. And what ever happened to splitting the state into 3 areas and making central MN a limit of 10? Was that last year? You can set out tip ups, but they have to be within 200'. So if you set out multiple are you breaking the law when you go to catch a fish? And that's just ice fishing. Bringing a boat into it and you start talking about rules that are 15 years too late. I've seen multiple times last year guys get turned away at launches for having rainwater in their boat.
Trust me, you break a law every time you walk out that door, go to work, go fishing, heck you can't even legally build a shed in this state without jumping through hoops.
Those were proposed pike zones...
You can't think of any way to set your tipups within 200'of each other? Really? ???
It feels like you're trying too hard to confuse yourself by really simple rules. Looking through an alphabetized list to see if there are special regulations for a lake isn't that difficult shouldn't be challenging for an adult...
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Are you sure it's 200'of each other or is it you can't be more then 200' from.Here in Ontario you have to be within 197' with an unobstructed view.
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. I was up there (Kenai river) in late 70's and I think limit was one fish a day if I remember right!!
That was most likely King salmon.
Reds have been at 3 per day forever.
It jumps to 6 per day when they reach their escapement goals.
Either way 30+ fish over the limit anywhere is blatant disregard for the law.
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Try reading the Minnesota fishing regulations book. Just that alone is enough to make your head spin. The regulations are not worth it, keep your rights in Indiana.
Please stay out of Alaska.
If those simple Minnesota regs make your head spin ours will kill you instantly.
Seriously we have rivers where the regs differ for each section of the river.
Some areas are fly fishing only where your gap between point and shank cannot exceed 3/8" and must be a "fly".
If you put a bead on your line it must be able to slide freely down your entire line or be pegged within iirc 1/2" of your hook.
Fish intended for release cannot be removed from the water.
Some areas allow snagged fish to be kept. Others do not.
There's a lot of confusing regs. But a few extra minutes with the regs book and they're really not that hard to figure out.
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With some of the regulations I've read here....it's no wonder this is a dying sport. Too many variables.
Reminded me of the great "portable shanty identification" debate in Indiana...3" block letters on my one man flip over...would take over 150" of space. Some CO's said it was a law....others didn't.
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So what did the MNR do with the 49 perfectly edible walleye...
Seems like an easy solution to this though...clean fish before freezing and transporting them. Duh.
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Are you sure it's 200'of each other or is it you can't be more then 200' from.Here in Ontario you have to be within 197' with an unobstructed view.
He was saying he couldn't walk to his tip up to catch a fish because he would then be more than 200' from his other tip up. If you put each one on opposite sides of you and 200' away as he is suggesting, then when you walk towards one of them you would be more than 200' from the other one and then be in violation of the law. The logical solution would be to put them 100' on either side of you if you insist on having them as far apart as you legally can.
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So what did the MNR do with the 49 perfectly edible walleye...
Seems like an easy solution to this though...clean fish before freezing and transporting them. Duh.
Here in Alaska they donate the fish to a local food bank or other charity. Not sure what the MNR does.
The easy solution is staying within your legal transport limits in Canada(or anywhere else)!
The law apparently says the fillets must be left whole skin on so they can easily determine how many fish there are.
Cleaning the fish before freezing and transporting especially if their over your limit isn't going to make them any less illegal.
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That's harsh. Turned out to be an expensive fishing trip.
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The MN regulations do not change that much year to year. The changes are highly publicized. One of the first sections in the new reg books is a what's new synopsis.
From the 2016 (current) regulations:
"How far away can I go from my lines?
You must remain within sight of your line. If you’re using a tip-up (a device with spooled line and a
flag that pops up to indicate when a fish bites) you need to be within 200 feet. "
Seems pretty simple. Stay within 200'. Your farthest can be no farther than 200' apart. What is hard about that? Maybe someone needs to head over to the area of the forum where the grumps gather.
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BINGO !!!!!
Well said sir !
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The MN regulations do not change that much year to year. The changes are highly publicized. One of the first sections in the new reg books is a what's new synopsis.
From the 2016 (current) regulations:
"How far away can I go from my lines?
You must remain within sight of your line. If you’re using a tip-up (a device with spooled line and a
flag that pops up to indicate when a fish bites) you need to be within 200 feet. "
Seems pretty simple. Stay within 200'. Your farthest can be no farther than 200' apart. What is hard about that? Maybe someone needs to head over to the area of the forum where the grumps gather.
Amen. But for the sake of everybody else, maybe we move the fight to the MN section?
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The MN regulations do not change that much year to year. The changes are highly publicized. One of the first sections in the new reg books is a what's new synopsis.
From the 2016 (current) regulations:
"How far away can I go from my lines?
You must remain within sight of your line. If you’re using a tip-up (a device with spooled line and a
flag that pops up to indicate when a fish bites) you need to be within 200 feet. "
Seems pretty simple. Stay within 200'. Your farthest can be no farther than 200' apart. What is hard about that? Maybe someone needs to head over to the area of the forum where the grumps gather.
Been to Zipple Bay a few times for pre-spawn pike. We go up with 10-12 guys and it never fails that somebody get's tagged for being too far out. MN doesn't fool around with this.
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I think the point is well established that these criminals are in our midst and that the rest of us law abiding sportsmen and woman should not let them bring the rest of us down with them by shear guilt by association !!
The original offence happened tin Ontario, Canada .
So why move to the MN board ?
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I think the point is well established that these criminals are in our midst and that the rest of us law abiding sportsmen and woman should not let them bring the rest of us down with them by shear guilt by association !!
The original offence happened tin Ontario, Canada .
So why move to the MN board ?
If we wanted to continue discussing the finer points of the MN regs.
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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I used to travel up to Hay Bay, Ontario when I was younger and the Walleye fishing was truly unbelievable. Over the years due to poaching and overbagging the walleye population has deteriorated immensely. This happens all over, on the water & in the woods, by all kinds of people- Americans, Canadians, whatever. Some people are just going to do what they are set out to do and it's a shame.
Now... let's get back to what's really important here-
What color where they using??
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Perfect!! I'm still waiting for the color they used as well!!!
Mike
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Sensationalism: the use of exciting or shocking stories or language at the expense of accuracy, in order to provoke public interest or excitement. Titles/Headlines like 33 walleye over limit generate a lot more attention then if we took each criminal offense on its own. Which would be 8 walleye over the limit by fisherman or 4 fisherman each charged with 8 walleye over the limit (I know there is one more walleye). Here is my point using catchy titles/headlines like this does not help the sport of fishing or hunting.
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Poaching and taking over your limit hurt the sports more than sensationalism, not to mention some of the calloused attitudes toward such offenses.