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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Ice Fishing Safety => Topic started by: draketrutta on Jan 04, 2011, 09:16 AM
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Put this together with a Dollar Tree 100foot soft nylon rope and a used detergent bottle filled 1/3 with very sudsy water.
Extra care was taken to wrap rope with no chance of knottage when/if it is called to action.
Total Investment = $1.06.
Life Saving Potential = Priceless
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mqwMWqeJqGg/TSM426aRluI/AAAAAAAAAY4/gk84xlXkxY4/THROW%20ROPE.jpg)
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Very kool ! I made something similar with a 2 liter pop bottle. I put a couple inches of rock salt it in for a little weight for throwing. Glued the top on and tied 100 ft. of 1/4 inch nylon rope to it. Throws and floats great and ALL my buddies know i carry it !
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I've tried similar items like this on dry land without much success. Problem is no matter how hard you try to keep the rope from tangling when you throw it, it tangles. Whats even worse is the time it takes to retrieve the rope, recoil it and try again "if" you miss. It can take a lot of time when seconds count. With a throw bag the rope is smaller, floating, not tangled from being in the bottom of the sled and easy to throw. If you miss you just jamb the rope back in the bag as it's retrieved and re-throw. I carry one on my sled and my boy has one on his pack. We also practice throwing once or twice a year (usually when fishing is bad). Lots of brands out there and most are reasonably priced (some less than $15.00). http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000VW17E/ref=asc_df_B0000VW17E1394601?smid=A2YLYLTN75J8LR&tag=dealtmp5800-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B0000VW17E (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0000VW17E/ref=asc_df_B0000VW17E1394601?smid=A2YLYLTN75J8LR&tag=dealtmp5800-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395105&creativeASIN=B0000VW17E)
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I picked up the boat fender for $6 and 100' of rope for $3 at Wally World. It throws out the 100' with ease and doesn't tangle bad. If needed I believe it would work great without getting to close to the bad Ice.
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk176/Fish4all/100_1039.jpg)
(http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk176/Fish4all/100_1045.jpg)
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Nice job.
About the only improvement would be to replace that stiff nylon rope (which will curl up and get tangled in cold temps). The soft rope I used is very slick and will stay that way if kept dry in a gear box until it is needed.
I agree that I could have bought a throwing device made specifically for this purpose.
But I like redneck engineering projects, and I know I can toss/lob my bottle accurately, and I'm sure a drowning man will not be offended if I rescued him "on the cheap" ;D
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Drake I meant no disrespect towards your throwing device. Just posting a picture of mine. Anything to possibly Fish another day. Be Safe
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no problem man, it's all good stuff.
actually, after a couple of beers one night, I thought about using my ex-wife as the flotation device.
But, the last time I saw her she had dropped alot of weight and is no longer buoyant....
....hmmmm, now that she is leaner & meaner - she would make a great depth-finder... ;D
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Hi Guys, the throwing devices are both great but the rope is the most important. The nylon rope once it gets wet will be hard to handle and will start to sink as SOON as it gets WET. The Yellow Polypropylene will remain floating allowing the victim to grab it anywhere along it's length that is close to them. Just a comment from a Retired Naval Chief, have fun fishing and BE SAFE.
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Welcome to the Shanty biggary99 , Glad to have ya aboard ! Good call on the poly, I spent the 17 bucks and got the coast guard approved throwing device ! fits on the dash of the sled and I have deployed it in under 30 seconds ! Getting it back in the toss bag is a different matter ! :blink: :roflmao:
P.S. Chief, Thanks for your service !
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Hmmm...I will have to check to see if my polypropylene rope will float.
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made mine from a swimming pool lane buoy[red/white] with 50 feet of rope always with me on the ice
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Guys,
Having spent years training military personnel for drown pr offing and private sector for aquatic emergencies I'd like to offer a few tips .
1. Stand on the rope ( seen many people throw the whole thing out )
2. Never throw at the victim throw past ( gives you 2 Chane's one going out one coming back )
3. Softball underhand works best
4. Practice practice practice !! Knowing what to do will help you remain calm !
All of the above mentioned items will work in an emergency but having a plan is most important !
It's funny I was just talking to some friends about this over dinner and I have a throw bag on my shack outside next to the door and a second I carry on my shoulder when I'm
walking out and back .
With the ice coming so late this year I hope no one takes a chance ! Let's all be safe and look out for one another!
Taking a basic CPR/first aid course is never a bad idea !
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I store all of my rope in bags, I have one in boat raft and ice sled. It comes out easy and no knots and can throw them around 40 feet. Easy to make, also comes in handy when spuding
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/adrenjunkey/bag2.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/adrenjunkey/bag1.jpg)
(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p296/adrenjunkey/bag.jpg)
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Stuff sacks are the way to go. I like the photo above. Not sure I like the rope. But if i'm in the water just throw it!
We have stuff sacks for tech rescue and ice rescue. they are very easy to load and to throw. Like it was said before, anchor the rope, step on it, have someone else hold. Just don't let it out of your control. Practice, practice. Think throwing a jug with rope is easy and accurate? It may be, but when you have a guy begging to not die is not the time to practice.
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A lariat works great too! Just imagine the guys head sticking up through the water as a steers heals! ;D
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I did two things a tad different. At the "tag" end (pulling end) I tied an oversized boline. I can step on it, and once the throw is completed.....and hopefully successful, I pull it up around my waist to pull with. This eliminate rope slippage through my gloves or cold hands. I also use a "ring" type float. I do this because the victim will be ultra cold, and have almost no strength. If they can get an arm through the ring, they'll have more leverage to hold on rather than trying to hold onto a roap or "sausage shaped" float with cold useless hands. Just my $.02
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Well, it's that thin ice time of year again so I thought I might describe my throw rope. About 50' of 3/8 nylon, boat fender on the throwing end, 8" grapple hook on the other. The fender is just like everyone else's, throws easy, floats and has a loop for the victim to put his hands/arms in. The grapple has sharp points and will dig into the ice with one kick, or hook in a hole to anchor the pulling end. It's a good handle to pull on, and God forbid it's ever needed, might fish someone out who's unconcious or goes under.
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I have in my rope collection water ski rope that floats with built in eyes
on each end that works for me boat bumpers work real good also
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These are all great ideas, thanks for posting guys! If anyone else can add to these ideas and/or post pictures it would be great!
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Maybe I missed it above? I did not see a BOWLINE-LOOP on the same end as the Throw-Device! ???
Yes it is best to have a Boweline-Loop on both ends for pulling reasons stated above. If I had 1 to 3 minutes of strength as the recueee, best to get bowline-loop overhead and under arms! Nothing would be worse than seeing rescueee not have strength to hold device or device slips and re-throw as he slips forever :( Hate to be so graphic but hey we are all BIG BOYS and need a wake up slap of reality sometimes). GODBLESS & FISH-SAFE :)
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i use a water-keeled duck decoy for my throw rope, had an extra one hanging around. strung the line through the keel, then tied a loop about 2 ft up for an extra hand hold.
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I have 40' of 1/2 nylon with a 12-14'' piece of 1 1/4'' pvc tied in a loop at one end; looks like a toe rope for water skiing. Keeps the end open so an arm can fit through and provides weight for tossing. Also have a loop tied to the other end for maintaining possession. Probably will do some practice tomorrow, and I agree with the underhand delivery, at least for me. Stay safe all!
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I have always taken a rope with me ice fishing. I must admit that after reading these posts, I do not know if my rope floats. I also do not have anything tied to the end for throwing. The tips about throwing underhand and standing on the rope are excellent. Thank you guys!!
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There a lot of good info here. I will be making a throw before my next trip.
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This should be turned into a sticky. Many excellent ideas.
WS
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50' of soft polyester anchor rope with a rubber keel roller on one end of a loop for weight in tossing distance.
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Lots of good advice, makes a person think. Thanks for getting the wheels turning! :clap:
WS
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Good Idea/
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Lots of good ideas here.
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My plan is to use a commercial bag with with a 5-6mm climbing rope. Idea is to connect a small bouy on one end for weight/float and to use a (real) carbiner to clip the other end to the rack on the snowmobile. If the machine ever goes through I can us it as a recovery rope ;).
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Glad to see more safety awareness than in the past. I have always used the life ring attached to fifty feet of floating line and fortunately have never needed it. One thing I do differently, I have a pair of floating spike handles tucked under a rubber band on the ring as well as another set on the opposite end strapped to a bowline loop. If the victim has enough strength to use the spikes it makes rescue easier, plus the extra set means I can get the bowline over me and use the spikes to crawl away with power.
Be safe!
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Good point frogmaster I will make a bigger loop on my throwable. Be Safe.
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An excellent way to help someone else in distress, but it won't do you a bit of good if you're out on the ice by yourself and there's no one to throw it to you! Wear your own floatation and don't depend on someone else to save you, plan ahead to save yourself!!!
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This should be turned into a sticky. Many excellent ideas.
WS
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Also, instead of something that floats on the end it should have a big loop instead. People that have been in frigid water for 10 minutes or more are too weak to hold on to a rope to be pulled out of the water. The loop should be big enough so the person can put it over his head and under each arm so the loop pulls on the upper body underneath the armpits.
Like shown in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gOW8ZaYqHA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gOW8ZaYqHA)
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Thanks for the reminder and all the excellent ideas... Now I'm going to make mine... Thanks
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Thanks for the reminder and all the excellent ideas... Now I'm going to make mine... Thanks
Use a floating rope with a big loop on the end and you can't go wrong!
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Read up on and practice throwing a split coil. With practice; you can retrieve, coil and get full deployment of a 50' throw line in under a minute.