thanks again, guys. here on the edge of the ice belt most shops don,t get a lot of new stuff in so they,ll not be stuck with lots of inventory after season, ,n, i like to ,speriment with the things i see on here ,n, IDO. found a lure at FF last year in feb. that was the catsazz for perch on leech lake. looked all over but cant find more ,n, in other sizes anywhere, so i want to get the jump on these, ,n, stock up for me ,n, the boy. it was the last one in the u.s. apperantly. thank god i didn,t lose it to a pike, so, i do have one for this season. wire