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I forgot to mention, ive tried a lot of things and it has been made very aware to me that my odds increase heavily on presentations in the water and jig size.1) I know it can take some time to hit bottom with a smaller jig and minnow with a stand off but its worth the wait, the fish are much more eager to mouth the bait and move off with the lighter jig dangling down, 90% of the time you'll catch them with the stand off hook.2) On keyhole we can use 6 lines, I have 2 hooks on each (that's 12 presentations) I use them all with auto-set releases on my poles that I fabricated myself. definitely worth it!