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Wyoming => Ice Fishing Wyoming => Topic started by: David Sawyer on Jan 26, 2015, 10:48 AM
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Been doing well on keyhole this winter
This 30" lifetimer is going on the wall.
Released a 26" also and keeping the eaters.
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Here is all the pics so far this year, I've got a pretty interesting method on catching them...
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Well lets hear it!
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Great job! Sounds like your doing better then most
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It's quite the slick method, I'll submit more pics after work and explain it, today!
Check this post later today and I'll get you dialed in on limiting out on keyhole.
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Hopefully this video turns out, you'll want to watch it
I'm running anywhere on the lake where there's no people
1) 28-41 feet seems best
2) any bottom changes nearby help, points, ridges that drop steep
3) glow jig (red/pink seems best) tipped with minnow head.
4) !!** Attach a "standoff hook" 1 ft above your jig, VERY important, it catches 90% of the fish, the glow jig just strikes their curiosity. Tip the standoff with a live minnow. (I'll attach a pic of the rig)
5) it is important to charge glow with high lumen light or black light, you really want it shining
6) best bite is from sun down on horizon to 9am, pressure and moon phase don't seem to matter as much but clouds and overcast produce 20-30 fish versus 10-20 fish on clear days
7) drill all your holes and run a line at 30 to 35 ft with your auto sets.
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This was Friday night / west arm, we threw back 6 decent hens.
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Here's the 26" I released
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I agree, thanks for sharing those tips. looks a lot like I fish with the 2 hood set up. Using just minnow heads or whole minnows?
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That's pretty cool. What size of stand off hooks do you use?
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Yeah, I try to toss some of the skinny ones back if I can get my son to reel them up slow enough. If they don't immediately haul to bottom. I grab'em and eat'em.
Ill try to start getting pics of the Hens Im throwing back, but I like to get em back in as soon as possible.
The stand off hooks are something I used to use for jigging lake trout, you can buy a 44 pc kit online; Search: "Walleye Stand out hook Kit" Youll find it, Comes in 4 assorted hook sizes, 12,10,8,6 I think.
The two mid sizes are doing best depending on minnow size.
Im using a Head on the Jig and a 2-3 incher on the stand-off, I tried larger minnows and got plenty of bites but it seems I lose more bait and get less hook-ups.
Early Ice, was on a mid-lake ridge in the westa arm with a small isliand ridge that came up to 28' It was hot for a while, but the fish moved off for now.....
Lateley ive been out of Hobo Point on a 30-34' drop shelf to 40' picking up mostly bucks that seem to be staging quite early with this warm weather we have had the last few days, Ill hit the island again in a couple weeks then back to the shelf in 24' during late ice to try for a mounter female
I have no problem sharing, everyone can park right next to me if they want...theres plenty of eaters....and the method I use seems to be fine tuned, id be happy to share more, and if anyone comes to keyhole, id be happy to share the methods, thanks
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I forgot to mention, ive tried a lot of things and it has been made very aware to me that my odds increase heavily on presentations in the water and jig size.
1) I know it can take some time to hit bottom with a smaller jig and minnow with a stand off but its worth the wait, the fish are much more eager to mouth the bait and move off with the lighter jig dangling down, 90% of the time you'll catch them with the stand off hook.
2) On keyhole we can use 6 lines, I have 2 hooks on each (that's 12 presentations) I use them all with auto-set releases on my poles that I fabricated myself. definitely worth it!
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I forgot to mention, ive tried a lot of things and it has been made very aware to me that my odds increase heavily on presentations in the water and jig size.
1) I know it can take some time to hit bottom with a smaller jig and minnow with a stand off but its worth the wait, the fish are much more eager to mouth the bait and move off with the lighter jig dangling down, 90% of the time you'll catch them with the stand off hook.
2) On keyhole we can use 6 lines, I have 2 hooks on each (that's 12 presentations) I use them all with auto-set releases on my poles that I fabricated myself. definitely worth it!
Hate to break it to you, but using 2 hooks per line is against the law. Thats 6 hooks too many. Just got off phone with
Game & Fish
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Wow! Thanks for the heads up. That it a very interesting topic, I searched the regulations again and numerous times in the past and have only found that 6 lines can be used in my location during ice up. Nowhere have I found in the regulations how many hooks per line can be used. I would be interested to see where this law or definition is stated?
In the meantime, Ill switch my Jigs out for Glow Bell weights! Most all the eyes are caught on the standout hook anyways, I just need the glow to get their attention.
Thanks Again
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Oh Ya! I just found it in the "Special Ice Fishing Provisions" Section. They really should add that little bit of info to the regs you pick up at the store or make it more noticeable?
Nonetheless..Easy fix and much thanks on catching that for me
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It says in the Wyoming Fishing regulations on Page 6:
Except as otherwise provided, fish shall be taken or fished for with a maximum of two rods or poles, with lines and hooks attached and the angler in attendance. No line may have more than three (3) single hooked devices attached. it is legal to use hand lines, set lines, poles, or tip ups when fishing thru the ice and the angler is in attendance..
So if I read that right. You can have 3 hooks per line!!!!!
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the regs used to read, when using more that 2 rods each rod could only have one hook but the 2015 regs say unless otherwise provided each line shall have no more than 3 hooking devises. that said i would keep using your set up. if ever ticketed you have the regs to prove you've been fishing legally. its b.s to expect everyone to know the laws if its not in the reg. just my opinion
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before i could even type someone else thought the same thing
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Yeah what I posted came right out of the Game and Fish's 2014-2015 Regulations: So yeah 3 hooks are permitted per line in their booklet????
And under the special Ice fishing regulations: You may fish with up to 6 Lines on special waters under the ice fishing regulations.
6 lines with up to 3 hooks.
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the regs used to say more than 2 line, 1 hook per line. ive talked to lots of game wardens and more times then not they had to look in the booklets to check so even they dont really know
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by the way david awesome job on the fish and gear and thanks for sharing
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I heard the new Reg's were out with amendments from just a couple weeks ago, im gonna have to go pick up a copy. Which page did you find that on Elkhntr?
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Nice fish my friend. My brother and I were thinking about coming up this weekend. Have anymore pointers? We have fished keyhole in the summer but are yet to ice fish it. Are you going to be out there this coming weekend? If so would you mind if we met up and got a few pointers from you?
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ya he is right. 6 poles. numerous hooks per line.
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I'll be there Friday night/evening.
It's a 3/4 mile across lake
Get me on email and I'll meet you sometime Friday
I'll be there till 9am
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You guys are correct. Waters under the Special Ice Fishing Provisions, you may use up to 6 lines and up to 3 hooked devices. Waters not under the provision are still 2 rods and up to 3 hooked devices per rod. The old regulation was based on hooked devices, with no more than 6 (i.e., a water not under the provision, 2 lines up to 3 hooks for a total of 6 hooks, or under the provision up to 6 lines with one hook for a total of 6 hooks). I had to look this one up and unbeknownst to me, this reg was actually eliminated starting in the 2012 fishing year. Hope this helps and sorry that we aren't very good at letting folks know exactly what has changed.
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Thank you WGF FISHBio
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Here are pics of the setup I've been using. I saw some pics of some homemade stuff and designed my own system with many alteration to perfect this one.
I welded up 6 of these, there is a lag bolt on the bottom. You can use the t-handle to sink em into the ice, but I prefer attaching my electric drill to the top.
I call them my "fish-n-buddy's" because it's like having 6 guys out there with me!
No jigging needed for the walleye, the minnow on the stand out hook does all the work keeping my glowing jig moving a bit.
If anyone knows how to patent these things... I'd like some royalties!!
When the trigger releases it puts that standout clean through the top lip, all I need to do is walk over and reel the fish in.....my 7yr old son just leaves the pole in the holder and reels...lol
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Newbie here, Decided to join after trying to get into ice fishing for the last couple years and mostly just getting more fresh air than fish. Awesome pics. Hoping to hit Keyhole more in the future, and I sure appreciate the tips. Hope I can share a few pics of my own after I get the fishing figured out a little more.
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Thanks for the pictures and instructions. I will be building a few of these this weekend. It is people like you that make this site great and it gives me reason to believe that there is always a new trick to help us catch a few more fish.
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Thanks for sharing and nice fish. :o
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Thank you David.
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Well it looks like Smitty is known for the SmittySled, and this setup should be known as the 'Sawyer Rig'? Nice trigger release David! :tipup:
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I also have a few other tricks up my sleeve......You know how them eye's are notorious for spitting out the gear and running off with the bait...Well: They don't do that anymore!
This stuff is called egg yarn, and it does NOT come out of a Walleye's mouth very easy..
Just tip the Jig with a head, The "stand-out" hook with a live minnow, Recharge your glow and sink it to their kitchen!
Some Good Reasons to use this set-up:
1) It works....
2) It sticks to fish teeth, especially walleye and pike
3) When the fish Inhales, it aligns the bait & Hook properly in the mouth for an excellent hook-set
4) It appears that something is eating the live minnow, and Walleye hate predators eating their food!
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Ive looked into it. The "Yarn" has been used on steelhead corkys for years for the exact same reason, because the steelhead running up river to spawn primarily kill the bait and spit it out with no intention of eating it...all they want is to kill any predator that might harm their spawn...as they move up river.
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I'm from Wyo.live in MT. now ask people up here info on walleye & they are a bunch of smart asses. Keep up good sportsmans info fellow Wyo sportsman
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Well slap me silly and brake out the deep fryer. Why does Keyhole have to be so far away from Evanston.
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I will you give you credit on the smartasses part, as there does seem to be quite a few. You must give us Montana boys a chance as not all of us are that way.
Good job on sharing the good information and I don't see why it wouldn't work anywhere there are walleyes!
Keep up the good work!
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Interesting as it may seem..There on Keyhole
Everyone Ive talked to local so far has told me how hard Keyhole has been to fish for walleye, this year and in the past.
Im good friends with a very well known guy who sells Fat-Head Minnows out of Gillette..He said "your the only one I know who is nailing them hard," I told Him Ive been catching them from sun up to sun down all night long - Steady...He added...."your literally the only guy catching them at night....aint nobody catching them,"
Ive been all over the lake this year, It seems any shelf I find in 30-40 ft of water is holding eyes at night, there are still several spots near the dam that I haven't got to yet.
Just west of the dam there are a couple super steep drops to 60+ ft. Ive always nailed the 30" fish there the most..suspended at 35-40' within 10 ft from the wall....The fishing there is slow, but when you hit one its a dandy....
Since I already have a wall hanger, ive been concentrating on the spots holding mostly Bucks this year, and to help some of the guys here on the easy fish to learn all the tactics I can pass along.
If you want a wall hanger....Its a great spot and not many folks fish it...nor do they fish them suspended...
But fathom that...if you drop a camera down there...the baitfish come through along that wall in the warmest depth they can find about every 15-20 minutes by the hundreds and the Hens sit about 10-15 ft under them (depending on water clarity (as low as they can get and still see them from below-with them eyes, they can see the baitfish from a good lick without spooking them until they split the school).....when a school comes through they come up and hammer them, pick up the scraps then sink below again waiting for more sparklies to appear...seems like they do a good job running the smaller eyes and males off because I rarely catch an eater size eye there.
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Would you look at that! Theres even some decent Channel Cats on Keyhole, Sometimes it dosnt hurt..when the fishing is slow (if it ever is)___Walk out the the 45ft plus shelf and drop some garbage to bottom, at least you have a great chance of bringing home a catfish...I leave it 100' from the shack with my auto set and put bells on it. They usually go off atleast once during the trip.
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That's a darn good question there "gem city"
If I attempted to tell you I would be lying
They didn't appear to be crappie....more slender, definitely not perch.
I'm getting one of the recordable type cameras, I'll be sure to tape them with a better quality camera, now u got me on a mission!
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David, just wanted to say "thanks" again, for sharing your methods. Awesome pics! Keep fishing and the best to you and family!
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One more question for ya Mr. Sawyer, what kind of baitfish are you seeing coming through? Crappies?
Looks to me that there are shiners and shad in Keyhole as baitfish. Here is some info to help out
https://wgfd.wyo.gov/web2011/news-1002136.aspx
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Great post, good info, nice pics!
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I'm curious what percentage of hook ups do you get with your hook setter? Are there many missed fished or do you hook most of them? Also, does the wind ever give you any trouble setting them off? Good job and thanks for sharing. I'd still be careful driving on that part of the lake as the other day I found a spot with only 7 inches.
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nitro
Percentage is extremely high for hookups, my son loses more because he doesn't ensure a double set.
For the most part, if the fish hits the standout hook, he ends up on the ice.
The set is very strong on those walmart fiberglass rods, I absolutely will not recommend a standard light action ice rod! I've lost a lot if fish figuring that one out!
Also ....most of the time you can walk to the rod without much of a rush, the rod keeps them on for a good while.
I also have a very strict rule on minnow size, I hook it from behind the dorsal and up through the front of the dorsal.....I don't care for having minnow any more than half inch beyond the stand out hook or the smaller males will set the rod and take the bait.
Wind can get to about 20 before I start having issues with false sets, it's not a problem at all, I like a light set, but it's easily adjusted with a bend if the trigger wire.
With the length of the trigger, it is no more pressure than a bobber
The wind can blow it side to side pretty good and you can mess with it pretty good, it literally takes a downward drop on the trigger to release..... Since the entire unit moves in unison with the wind.....I rarely have a concern
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How does this work with your holes freezing up at night
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Not much you can do with freezing holes, I built the system so that the trigger dangles in the air after a release, wd40 works pretty good on the triggers
I walk to each set every 15 minutes, clean the hole and recharge the glow jig... It's a little work but worth the hook ups to recharge the jig versus not to !
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Even with a frozen hole, I still get a good hookset, it's the work of the pole to keep the fish on till you get to the rod that can be a a downfall with a frozen hole. Ice in the hole is ok..., on super cold nights, just walk around and keep them busted out, then scoop them out.
Generally, if I reel up and charge the every 15 minutes, the holes stay clean enough and I usually have a fish on by the time I hit my 6th rod.
***every 5-10 minutes I lift the bait about 2ft and drop it, just to keep the minnow active, to entice the curiosity of a nearby fish, and if the jig is behind structure from a nearby fish...it gets thier attention.
THIS HELPS A LOT!
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So, i heard a rumor and was shown some pics from a fella the other day that two guys caught and KEPT almost 40 walleye fishing the north shore near deer creek. You wouldnt be a part of that would ya dave? I ask because the pic i seen looks alot like the one you posted.
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Not me, I fish the west arm south of deer creek, not north shore.
Your always welcome to join me, everyone else does.
Nobody goes home with more than their limit or I don't fish with them.
All my pics are legitimate and I can name every fella who claims possession of thier fish in everyone of my pics.
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Just gotta ask. No harm no foul. :)
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I'll be out there Friday night with several fellas if your interested, look for a black light...it's on every 15 minutes to charge my baits.
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Good stuff. On the standout hook, how do you hook the minnow? Dorsal back to front, or something different? Also, is that jig 3/8 oz. Or 1/2? Thanks!
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The jig in the pic is 3/8 but now I use 1/4 or less
Hook the minnow in behind dorsal an up in front if dorsal so that it is in line with the hook, use a 2" minnow so the head is no more than maybe half inch beyond the hook.
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X2 On the Good Stuff !!!
I placed an order for some standout's last night . Heck, it can't hurt,as slow as it is over here in the west side of the state.
Hold to your line David, I appreciate your info. ;) :tipup:
Wyo Ice
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The standout hooks will greatly increase your hookups! You made the right choice..I stand behind everything I say!
I'm headed out with 6 of us tomorrow, hopefully I'll have a 36 fish photo to share Saturday!
Haven't been out with this many guys yet, so it should be a blast....
Anyone else on keyhole tomorrow night is welcome to track us down and join in the all nighter festivities
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One word :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Headed out this morning to check conditions my daughter wants to fish Saturday
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You are probably not the only one catching fish, my question would be why are you keeping all those small fish?
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Thanks for the idea about the standout hook. I will be giving it a try tonight at Deaver reservior on a couple of Jawjackers.
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You are probably not the only one catching fish, my question would be why are you keeping all those small fish?
If you look above at another Sawyer post in the thread Cargo, I believe he states if the walleye looks like it isn't going to go back down the hole and survive, he'll keep it rather than having it die.
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Ya, that's correct
I catch a lot more than in the pics, I try to fight them up slowly if they feel small. But if I have any doubts the fish won't survive it goes in my limit.
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I've hit some decent perch on that bottom jig, one of these days I might finally hook a 2 lb perch to go on the wall!
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We hooked a few nicer ones another 10 ft deeper from where we fished previously. Thanks for the info and the help. Had a good time. Maybe it will be better next time. None the less thats fishing and we had fun. Stay in touch.
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David,
On your yarn rig, do you catch more on the live minnow with the yarn, or on the jig head part?
thanks,
jmarti1
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Jmarti1
I have not used the yarn rig much lately, but what I like to do is put it on the bottom Jig, I take a Jig MOLD hook with the widest gap possible and attach my own split shot to the rig according to the size of minnow heads im using and the depth im fishing. after attaching the split shot to the hook, I attach a one inch strip of yarn (glow yarn seems to work well or anything other than green, it absolutely can not look like seaweed) Tie it on next to the split shot in the center of the bundle. when you let go it turns into a ball, then trim the ball so that it bareley covers around the split shot, you can also attach the bundle of yarn within the crimp of the split shot.
One thing for certain...It works well some days..and other days the fish wont touch it.
I generally use it when im looking for smaller eater size fish....they are the ones that tend to nibble and exhale in the blink of an EYE!
when im hitting bigger fish..I do not use it...In my own personal speculation, if a bigger fish is going to inhale my bait...I should not need yarn to help, then again, there are just some(MOST) days that the bigger SMARTER fish can be super finicky and the most plain & natural presentation keeps their simple minds on a simple natural meal.
Hope that helps
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Below is a pic of my Saturday Stringer
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I had to be present in billings for my National Guard duty on Saturday (1st day of the weekend Derby)
I made it home by 11PM Saturday night, geared up, got some sleep and headed out to meet Melissa at "R-Place" at 7AM to purchase a ticket.
Really guys, I was thinking chances were slim on placing in the tournament and was pretty sure somebody on the lake would have nailed a bigger eye than 22" through the entire weekend.
I am very thank full and did fulfill my main intent of entering for the day on Sunday, to meet some more folks and just get to know some "good-ol-Boys"
I am not going to share much on how I caught my stringer of eyes, because the methods I use are the same as I have stated in the past..
Although, I will add a few words of wisdom that I used to help me along the way and can be found anywhere on the NET with a little research on your part!
Consider, the weather lately on Keyhole..bright sunny days, very warm temps...creating melting conditions and perhaps run off?
Consider what this does to the lake in certain places in accordance with water temp and clarity?
Where do you suppose the baitfish will be?
Where do you suppose the walleye will be on a warm sunny day......how far must they travel to the baitfish.....(Hopefully a very short distance from deep dark water)
on a final note, I had a pleasure meeting all the guys who I was able to talk with during the awards ceremony, Im glad I was able to share and trade some knowledge with all of you who attended and look forward to getting in at least one trip with each of you in the future.
Did the Jig matter? YES
Did I catch any fish on the Jig that day? NO, not even the perch
One more thing, Im looking for a Local guy...
who has a nice walleye in the freezer, or whoever gets one in the near future, looking for something nice...say 28" plus?
I do national award taxidermy as a hobby in my spare time.....I would like to mount up a nice walleye...
Stipulation: you PAY the material cost (about 75$)...I will mount the fish...It must remain on display at a local establishment in Pine Haven.....R-place, the Anchor? your choice
First come, first serve...one time only opportunity, Thank you
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Congratulations on your first place finish in the derby.
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David,
Congrats man. Good to meet you and goodluck in your future tourneys man. If you are ever down this way hit me up well go catch some fish.
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Wow!
I'm literally jaw dropped right now!
I had a guy private message me, ha pretty much said I wasn't fishing my normal spot and asked where I moved on the lake...I told the guy I went south....
Well, that waSnt good enough....this guy literally wanted me to hold his hand, change his diaper and input grid coordinates for him!!!
Listen guys; I'm a knowledgable person, a good guy to know...I offer some help for folks who ask....
But! Last time I went fishing... There were three shacks set up each I n top of the last three places ice been on the lake.... Sorry guys, I'm done helping
If anyone wants more info, your gonna have to get off your lazy rear and meet me in person, like some good ol local boys have already done. I appreciate their kind of efforts...
Other than that....ice shanty has lost another "real" fisherman!
Those of you I've met....I'll see you where the fish are biting, and I'll have a bruskie waiting!
Best regards-Dave
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thanks david for your all of your info. it seems like alot of guys are starting to be that way. hope you dont leave the site but understand if you do.this site in my opion is to help each other become better fishermen and to tell some stories all for the love of icefishing, im with you, im will to help if someone want to meet but im not going to do all of the work for ya. getting out and doing some of the work is part of icefishing and if you get skunked thats just part of the game we play.
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Wow!
I'm literally jaw dropped right now!
I had a guy private message me, ha pretty much said I wasn't fishing my normal spot and asked where I moved on the lake...I told the guy I went south....
Well, that waSnt good enough....this guy literally wanted me to hold his hand, change his diaper and input grid coordinates for him!!!
Listen guys; I'm a knowledgable person, a good guy to know...I offer some help for folks who ask....
But! Last time I went fishing... There were three shacks set up each I n top of the last three places ice been on the lake.... Sorry guys, I'm done helping
If anyone wants more info, your gonna have to get off your lazy rear and meet me in person, like some good ol local boys have already done. I appreciate their kind of efforts...
Other than that....ice shanty has lost another "real" fisherman!
Those of you I've met....I'll see you where the fish are biting, and I'll have a bruskie waiting!
Best regards-Dave
I wouldn't leave the shanty just because one person rubbed you the wrong way. When you put yourself out there to provide information some people are going to assume you'll just tell them everything they could ever want to know and then some. I was amazed that you gave as much information as you did. I think most people in this group will provide and share basic information to help folks go out and do it on their own, and from what I've seen, thats all most people want. If they don't want to do a little work on their own then maybe this isn't the sport for them. Just remember that every time you share a favorite fishing spot, a cute little puppy dies ;)
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Wow!
I'm literally jaw dropped right now!
I had a guy private message me, ha pretty much said I wasn't fishing my normal spot and asked where I moved on the lake...I told the guy I went south....
Well, that waSnt good enough....this guy literally wanted me to hold his hand, change his diaper and input grid coordinates for him!!!
Listen guys; I'm a knowledgable person, a good guy to know...I offer some help for folks who ask....
But! Last time I went fishing... There were three shacks set up each I n top of the last three places ice been on the lake.... Sorry guys, I'm done helping
If anyone wants more info, your gonna have to get off your lazy rear and meet me in person, like some good ol local boys have already done. I appreciate their kind of efforts...
Other than that....ice shanty has lost another "real" fisherman!
Those of you I've met....I'll see you where the fish are biting, and I'll have a bruskie waiting!
Best regards-Dave
I think these forums are great to share basic information. But it is never a good idea to share specifics over the internet unless you want your spots to be ruined IMHO! Years ago, I worked at a fly shop, and there were certain customers we would describe as "which rock should I stand on and what should I use?" types. They can never be pleased....
Stay on here, post your pictures and keep the location information vague!
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I thought you were sharing too much info from the start. You seem like a very knowledgeable fisherman, and good guy. I post ice conditions, how fishing was vaguely, road conditions. You have to remember hundreds of people reading posts and looking at pics trying to gather info on jigs and locations. Share only what you want world to know.
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Wow!
I'm literally jaw dropped right now!
I had a guy private message me, ha pretty much said I wasn't fishing my normal spot and asked where I moved on the lake...I told the guy I went south....
Well, that waSnt good enough....this guy literally wanted me to hold his hand, change his diaper and input grid coordinates for him!!!
Listen guys; I'm a knowledgable person, a good guy to know...I offer some help for folks who ask....
But! Last time I went fishing... There were three shacks set up each I n top of the last three places ice been on the lake.... Sorry guys, I'm done helping
If anyone wants more info, your gonna have to get off your lazy rear and meet me in person, like some good ol local boys have already done. I appreciate their kind of efforts...
Other than that....ice shanty has lost another "real" fisherman!
Those of you I've met....I'll see you where the fish are biting, and I'll have a bruskie waiting!
Best regards-Dave
Dave, I have followed this thread since you started it and I found your hook/jig setup particularly interesting. I don't live around that part of the state and have never fished keyhole. So, I'm going to maybe try it elsewhere in Wyoming when ever the ice comes back. Don't let a couple of annoying conversations here stop you from enjoying the sight (unfortunately that happens once in awhile).
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This site has a lot to give
And takes twice as much
It is hard to judge the Internet as the simplest form of fishing that we as ice fishermen have been enjoying are whole life has become open to the hole world of where a fish might be?
Keep your friends close and your family closer ;)
Much love to the iceshanty people!
Phish
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I think it would be a bigger problem if you lived in Texas or California... don't think there are enough people fishing in Wyoming to make a difference either way. There are plenty of fish for everybody... sharing techniques, tactics or even locations in my opinion won't compromise a lake.... the best online fishing communites (there are more than iceshanty) have people who are willing to share information... don't let one person change what kind of person you are.
To each their own.
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You're a fool to believe that there aren't enough people to affect our lakes. Living next to Colorado, I see a larger number of out of state people utilizing our resources. The fishery itself may be ok but enjoying it is a different story. Just try to find a camping spot at Glendo in the summer or a site in the Sierra Madres in Sep or Oct. IS is a great tool but easily taken advantage of. I appreciate everyone's road reports and ice conditions. Keeping it safe is above every but just remember everything you post is seen by the world now...
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That's probably a hard earned lesson on being the nice guy when it comes to the outdoors. I truly appreciated all the knowledge you shared but was anxious to see if something like this would happen. Hopefully you don't leave as there are lots of us who appreciate the info, take it, and utilize it as we see fit not yell at you for not telling us "which rock to stand on". I truly hope you come back!
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Great ideas And thanks for the good info. Don't let one bonehead chase you off,he's just jealous of your abilities. I've had trouble getting some to tell me what part of the lake they had success fishing...usually a no answer back like I was going to take ""their"" hole or find it and catch some of ""their"" fish. I can't stand as holes like that,so don't back down and stick around?There are plenty of decent sportsman out there.
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What happened to icingeyes' post? Did he take it down, or did the NSA get involved?
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I thought social media drama was only for junior high school girls. lol
If you don't want people to know about it then don't post it.
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What happened to icingeyes' post? Did he take it down, or did the NSA get involved?
I saw that before it was taken down too! He was pretty fired up haha
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I thought social media drama was only for junior high school girls. lol
If you don't want people to know about it then don't post it.
Seems mostly unsocial media. Although ,entertaining as was icingeyes which in my opinion should have remained since I am not much one for censorship.
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I hope he was the one that took it down. Censorship on what he said would be criminal.
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I thought social media drama was only for junior high school girls. lol
If you don't want people to know about it then don't post it.
X2 You are spot on. Not a hard one to figure out.
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It got removed because of the profanity.....
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I hope he was the one that took it down. Censorship on what he said would be criminal.
I disagree. The site owner has the final say on what is posted.
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It got removed because of the profanity.....
Guess I missed the profanity. If that was the case, I agree. The post I saw must have been cleaned up.
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I disagree. The site owner has the final say on what is posted.
I agree if it had to do with profanity.
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horrible end to best thread i've read on this forum...
-htc
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Some good information was shared. I think a dose of humility and a little thicker skin would have prevented such hurt feelings. Can't let people get under your skin so easily. No one forces anyone on here to respond to PM's or posts. So what if someone asks you where to fish, doesn't mean you have to tell anyone or respond. Wait for it, wait for it...someone will be upset and lash out at my comment.
Now, lets get some late season ice fishing in, have some fun, and prep for open water season....