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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: Agronomist_at_IA on Nov 15, 2020, 11:20 PM
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Just wondering on people's thoughts...kinda seeing the inline ice reels getting some talk.was suprised.....I figured the fad was over. Besides a free fall on a ST croix spring bobber pole I've removed all my inlines and have them sitting on the shelf. Besides a panfish application are people even using them much anymore?
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Yes I use mine all the time.
We don't have panfish here in Alaska but for landlocked salmon and trout they work great.
I have 2 black betty 6061's.
Whether or not they were a fad I'm going to keep using mine just because I like them.
I can't say I catch more fish because I'm using them.
But I can say I do enjoy using them.
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Tried it, failed to get use to it, and gave them away. Over running the spool or pulling line out seemed to be my options which meant any advantage gained was negated by time spent fighting the reel. Really wanted to like the freefall but didn't have the patience to get there
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Everything are tools to be used for whatever task one intends. Some tools works better than others. Some tools may never be truly appreciated for what the intended task is. Some tools are better at accomplishing a task over another tool through design or personal affinity.
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I only use mine for smelt fishing in deep water,they dont drop a 3mm jig very good at all,unbalanced feel and mediocre drag.i use them with a hali or heavy jigging spoon because its the only thing that freespools off the reel good.ive only tried frabill,cgi no 8 and ec inlines and not paying the money for the better ones because i could buy almost 3 shimano sienna 500s for the price of a good inline.
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I started the switch over a few years ago. Now my arsenal is full of them. It does remove some line twist. Over all it has become a confidence item. The rod/reel combo that started it gave me confidence and that allowed me to continue down that road. Do they have issues still... Yessir. And when they back lash and spin off the spool in negative temps you wanna throw the pole down the hole... But when they run smooth its the best day of fishing. 32" bro series straight line combos and wife picked me up a radioactive pickle.
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I have 6061s first year they came out Ive used them for perch walleyes and lakers to 125+ FOW , run mine with total free spool
I run no 3 Raps to 1.25 once rigs but I’ve been running old palm fly reels a very long time , when not paying attention I get some back lash 😜
They are fun but don’t catch anymore fish ,
I still run spinning reels
Far as panfish it’s all hand-line as they run shallow here
To each their own
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To each, their own tried them did not find any real advantages to my style of fishing.
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Stuck with spinning reels and had zero issues....
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I have a couple of "in-lines" that I'm getting ready to break out...made by Schooley. ;)
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My 6061's are on my ultralight rods. Use these really only for panfish. When its time to target walleye I really like the spinning reels and frankly never even thought of using them. They have their place.
I did buy a free spinning inline and I can see what the other members have seen - these things can spin the line off quickly and pretty soon you are looking at a mess.
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I can't think of a reason to not use inline reels. Outside of a traditionally better drag system with spinning reels, which is irrelevant with panfish, there is no benefit of spinning over inline. The only time I use spinning reels is for my iFish pros, because you need the open drag system.
We're finally seeing the push towards a better drag system while maintaining the benefits of an inline reel, the next few years should be interesting for inlines. I see that 13 fishing is the first to release a larger inline reel designed specifically for game fish. I would guess we will see more species-specific inlines coming out soon.
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Just wondering on people's thoughts...kinda seeing the inline ice reels getting some talk.was suprised.....I figured the fad was over. Besides a free fall on a ST croix spring bobber pole I've removed all my inlines and have them sitting on the shelf. Besides a panfish application are people even using them much anymore?
I bought some a couple years ago and tried them out. Here my pros and cons
pros
1) If you fishing in clear water and you like to watch to see just how close you want the jig to the bottom, when you put your finger on the side of the reel its super easy to control the depth you desire. I found with spinning reels, sometimes its a hassle.
2) Storage in a rod case is nice because the reels are flat.
3) I like the drag adjustment on these. In open water I'm use to fishing bait casters so its just a similar feature.
cons
1) I prefer the retrieve on a spinning because the line being spooled on the retrieve is controlled by the bail. I haven't seen a inline that has a "type" of bailing system to retrieve the line back into a proper spool. It can result in the spool being heavier on one side of the reel.
2) You can get a really nice spinning reel at a reasonable cost. The nicer inline reels usually come with a higher price. I read someone in the post mention the 13 fishing Ghost and Black Betty... both super nice with cool functions... ask your self what kind of of spinning reel for an ice set up could I get from 75 - 150 range?
Personally if your interested in seeing how you like the basics of an inline, I started off with EagelClaw Cold Smoke combo just to see if this was something I would consider at higher levels of craftsmanship. If you look on eBay "or whatever your source" you can find them new for about the cost of an Abu Garcia Veritas ice rod. 35-50 ish.
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For those real tough, mid-winter, panfish days in shallow water I ALWAYS keep a schooley spooled with clear 1lb. test in the shanty and I lay down a black rubber mat by the hole to watch the kink in the line. Seems a little less line spin does a world of good.
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I have a couple of "in-lines" that I'm getting ready to break out...made by Schooley. ;)
I always carry a couple of short rods with Schooley reels attached.
The first two inlines I tried I hated and wound up giving them away. Last year after contacting someone in the industry that I respect I bought two Frabill 261s. The drag, although not perfect, was better than the first two. So I carry two panfish set ups with those and two set ups with spinning reels.
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I gave a cheap inline a shot the last two seasons and was not a fan. Overrunning the spool and finnicky operation really turned me off. The gear junkie in me says I need to spend money for a higher end reel to "get the experience" of what a good inline will do. I'm *almost* perfectly happy with my spinning reels minus the line twist and I take that as coming with the territory of small diameter spools and cold weather.
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They have their time and place. I use my old Schooleys when I'm on a short trip, fishing shallow water, 10' or less, and while going for 'gills or sunnies. Work best for me when I tip my lure witha monnow, added weight seems to help, as I don't normally add split shot.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XXmyYyYC/schooley-s.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XXmyYyYC)
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I haven't tried one yet but I'm a huge fan of the Pflueger President series. With them coming out with a president inline this season it seams like a good time to give the inlines a try.
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I tried them and had all of the problems mentioned too, in fact I threw my black Betty down the hole! Yes, I littered, but it felt soooooo good. I do get curious now and then about whether they’ve gotten better. I didn’t mind the fact I had to peel line, it was the overrunning that pissed me of so bad. If you even set it down down the line would come off.
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;D
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I tried them and had all of the problems mentioned too, in fact I threw my black Betty down the hole! Yes, I littered, but it felt soooooo good. I do get curious now and then about whether they’ve gotten better. I didn’t mind the fact I had to peel line, it was the overrunning that pissed me of so bad. If you even set it down down the line would come off.
Shoulda tried the $5 cheapie like mine first. ;D
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I tried a 13 freefall ghost. As everyone else has mentioned they are slow dropping 3mm jigs, regardless of how you adjust spool tension. The biggest dislike for me was that is just felt cheap. It did not feel smooth or solid like you would expect for a $75 reel. To me, they felt like something you'd get at walmart for $10.
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Anyone bought a Plueger President online just curious what you might think of it.
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Anyone bought a Plueger President online just curious what you might think of it.
Did you find somewhere to buy it? The only way I could find it was in a combo package which isn't what I was looking for
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I have moved strictly to inline reels and won't go back, I have a freefall, a 6061, and the original black betty. I use the 6061 on a 36MH and the Black Betty on a 23ul the most, looking at the freefall XL for this season, thinking about pairing it with a 36M st.croix custom ice.
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I have a few and do alright with them. Still run Spin reels on Jawjaker setups and even have a couple bait casters on some big game setups, oh and a Schooly too. For going after perch and such I do just fine with the inline reels. Especially like how fast I can work up and down the water column with out tripping a bail just pull the trigger n release when I get back down to where I want to be or reel up. I think it is more what you get used to rather than one being better than the next. If you are catching fish with what you are using then you must be doing something right, keep doing that.
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Did you find somewhere to buy it? The only way I could find it was in a combo package which isn't what I was looking for
gander has them in their flyer on an Elite Tech rod for $79.97. Reel only $59
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Did you find somewhere to buy it? The only way I could find it was in a combo package which isn't what I was looking for
Sportsman's Guide has them. Picked up a President and Trion from there a couple weeks back
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I started with okuma fly reels and kept at it for a few years all the way to a free fall. black betty's, og 6061, eagle claws, cgi, spooler
I fish mainly for panfish but have to tussle with a cat or bass here or there. after 5 or so years of this transition, i moved back to spinning reels. there was 0 advantage and more disadvantages. unless we were in a shack none of them would free spool a 3mm tungsten without help. Their drags were mostly archaic compared to other options.
my best friend never made the switch and i can't think of one time where "line spin" was the difference in him outfishing me.
my buddy went on a guided trip with a guy who pushes inlines pretty hard all over the interwebs and tv and said the 2 days they went out the guy didn't have an inline in his hand once and they were fishing the exact conditions that would warrant one.
I've seen a lot of the guys who started off using them, move back to spinning.
In the end its a feel thing. There are some who it just feels right in their hand and I get that. But they were not for me. seemed great idea at first but in the end fell flat in my scenarios.
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I know 4 different people that went whole hog buying them a couple years ago.
Each one went back to spinning reels ???
WS
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I started with okuma fly reels and kept at it for a few years all the way to a free fall. black betty's, og 6061, eagle claws, cgi, spooler
I fish mainly for panfish but have to tussle with a cat or bass here or there. after 5 or so years of this transition, i moved back to spinning reels. there was 0 advantage and more disadvantages. unless we were in a shack none of them would free spool a 3mm tungsten without help. Their drags were mostly archaic compared to other options.
my best friend never made the switch and i can't think of one time where "line spin" was the difference in him outfishing me.
my buddy went on a guided trip with a guy who pushes inlines pretty hard all over the interwebs and tv and said the 2 days they went out the guy didn't have an inline in his hand once and they were fishing the exact conditions that would warrant one.
I've seen a lot of the guys who started off using them, move back to spinning.
In the end its a feel thing. There are some who it just feels right in their hand and I get that. But they were not for me. seemed great idea at first but in the end fell flat in my scenarios.
This is exactly what my experiance was with them.........I was just stupid enough to spend a couple hundred on them before I realised it & dumped them.
It's kinda cool to see how many people love the schooley rod/reels. I've got three I have setup & one black Betty fly reel setup and two code blue fly reel setups on noodle poles I love. Going to ponds and gravel pits 10ft or less they catch fish like crazy. The 1-1retrive brings them in nice and slow with 2# line so it doesn't break.....always like having a few of them so when the big @$$ bass break off I don't have to retire that thin line.
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I have two 6061 reels I never had an issue with over run. I also never went away from spinning reels either. inlines, just another tool.
Keep it safe! JDL
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I used them for a couple years, have a couple eagle claws and a 13 decent (not a fan of the 13 fishing reel, all plastic) then went to basically all pflueger spinning ice reels. They are a good cheaper ice reel. After talking with a few guys last year i am going to give a black Betty freefall a try. My only complaint with the eagle claw is that it is hard to adjust your drag on the fly. Lost too many larger fish because of this.
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My opinion is that the ice fishing world certainly seems to be a prime area for every new rod, reel, and gadget out there. The fish aren't the only ones that are getting hooked.... ;)
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I used them for a couple years, have a couple eagle claws and a 13 decent (not a fan of the 13 fishing reel, all plastic) then went to basically all pflueger spinning ice reels. They are a good cheaper ice reel. After talking with a few guys last year i am going to give a black Betty freefall a try. My only complaint with the eagle claw is that it is hard to adjust your drag on the fly. Lost too many larger fish because of this.
I got the free fall. It's ok. My biggest issue with it is when I'm fishing I tend to hit the trigger release on the reel.......
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My opinion is that the ice fishing world certainly seems to be a prime area for every new rod, reel, and gadget out there. The fish aren't the only ones that are getting hooked.... ;)
I see myself as a mid-season basin crappie. You taunt me with new gear and I'll take a look, maybe twice, but you leave it in front of me long enough and I'll bite eventually! Buying new gear is one of the best parts about ice fishing, even if it doesn't get used! ;D
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To each their own. I have in-lines and really like them. So for those of you who don't want that black betty freefall you spent $100 on, send me a message! haha.
I do use spinning reels for my set lines and in case a guest would come out. They'll all put fish on the ice if you're using the right presentation and lure in the right location. Use what you like.
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So... I may have some insight or may not, either way just an opinion.
I personally like the inlines. I just saw this Pflueger president inline reel and am pretty impressed in comparison to the Black Betty 6061. I think as more time and feed back comes out, like anything the technology should produce better and it may be more appealing to others who don’t use them. Either way, different style of fishing require different set ups. I run it all and am goi g to order that Pflueger cause it looks pretty rad
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i have a few of the Eagle Claw in-lines and love them. I fish for perch, blue gills and crappie. occasional Pickerel and bass. You guys that hate them and gonna trash them or just store them in a drawer, send me a pm and I'll send you my address
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Had a friend who wasnt huge into ice fishing but was a good fisherman and we will sit in the same hub on our crappie lake and sight fish over some brush in about 10 feet and in the 5 times we went last year i outfished him easily 2/1. After every couple jigs his bait would spin in two or three circles just as the fish are coming in to take a bite and they physically cant! Its spinning in circles and there forced to wait for it to stop! Yes new line will help with this but my black betty has 2 year old 3lb and it might move 30° one way at the most. Alot of people dont notice it but if your bites are coming 5 seconds or so after you jig its probabky because the fish is waiting for the bait to stop spinning.
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A swivel seems like an easy/obvious cure. ???
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Never seen a swivel that will work with a tungsten on it even the 4 and 5mm. If there is let me know and ill buy some
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Never seen a swivel that will work with a tungsten on it even the 4 and 5mm. If there is let me know and ill buy some
Try a spro swivel....they aren’t cheap....will cost more then the lure.
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First off, I own to much stuff.
Jigging is not my primary go to, that being said, I own about 15 jigging rods/reels,
I've gotba half dozen in lines, several of them Black Bettys, My newest one is an Allen Archer in line, that was a gift from my wife, for something made in China, it's a well crafted smooth reel.. I like it alot.
I have a small Penn conventional that I use for lake trout jigging, its heavy but better than any of the finess reels made for ice fishing..
I've got several old quantum rear drag spinning reels that get 90 percent of the jigging duty.
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First off, I own to much stuff.
Jigging is not my primary go to, that being said, I own about 15 jigging rods/reels,
I've gotba half dozen in lines, several of them Black Bettys, My newest one is an Allen Archer in line, that was a gift from my wife, for something made in China, it's a well crafted smooth reel.. I like it alot.
I have a small Penn conventional that I use for lake trout jigging, its heavy but better than any of the finess reels made for ice fishing..
I've got several old quantum rear drag spinning reels that get 90 percent of the jigging duty.
You mentioned that Ellen Archery reel a few times... I meant to check it out when we fished last season but forgot all about it. The pics I've seen look well made but maybe kinda tight to the rod grip?
I just ordered a Pflueger president inline, big fan of the president spinning reels so figured that was a good choice for the 1st try at an inline reel.
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You mentioned that Ellen Archery reel a few times... I meant to check it out when we fished last season but forgot all about it. The pics I've seen look well made but maybe kinda tight to the rod grip?
I just ordered a Pflueger president inline, big fan of the president spinning reels so figured that was a good choice for the 1st try at an inline reel.
Yes, it is very tight to the seat, and is a little heavy,probably my only complaint, it has the best drag of any in line ice reel I own..I use a rod with a longer butt to combat the close reel seat.
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You mentioned that Ellen Archery reel a few times... I meant to check it out when we fished last season but forgot all about it. The pics I've seen look well made but maybe kinda tight to the rod grip?
I just ordered a Pflueger president inline, big fan of the president spinning reels so figured that was a good choice for the 1st try at an inline reel.
We will just have to fish together so you can try it.. that is IF they let me over the boarder.
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We will just have to fish together so you can try it.. that is IF they let me over the boarder.
Ha, I won't tell.. pack some snow on the license plates.