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You misread a part of what he wrote. He said once the hatch from 2003 joined the 'adult breeder' stage there were 35 million breeding adults in lake Erie. If you look at link posted on page 2 of the thread they estimated there were 68 million 2yr old fish in 2005 from the 2003 hatch. Not sure how old they have to be to start breeding, but out of 68 million 2 yr olds, they certainly gave a huge boost to the breeding population once they matured. If you redo the math using half of the 35 million adults from 2003 x 250,000 eggs you will get the same numbers as he posted.
OK. I'll be that guy! Why would anyone mount a 10 lb walleye from Erie ?? They seem to be too common?. Not really a trophy out of that water? Paul
I think regardless of which water the fish comes from it still would be considered to be a trophy to the individual who caught it. Might only be a 7 pounder which would be a big fish to me. Just because Erie has many larger fish a wall hanger may not be as easy for someone who only fishes Erie say every 5-7 years. This size fish may not be as present where this guy who goes and wants 1 to put on his wall. And then there is the walleye factor. There are many people who just don't fish walleye waters all that often. I have been to Erie only three times in the early spring and my biggest fish was only 5 pounds. The largest fish in 6 days of fishing only 7 pounds, caught be someone else on my charter. Yes, the larger ones are caught during the ice fishing season IMO... To me that was the biggest fish caught on the trip. Is it on my wall NO, but, it may be on someone elses. So I just don't understand, if a guy goes to northern Canada and catches a 40 pound Laker not wall worthy, or the person who goes to Alaska and gets a 45 pound salmon. Just because there are much bigger fish in those waters I think it is up to the fisherman who caught it if he is truly proud of his fish he should do whatever he wants with it. IT IS HIS FISH... Stick a fork in me, I am done.
Thats actually true I know guys who live there. I guess my friends who live on Erie and troll out there all through open water season and personally know several charters are sending me pics from those charters that are not correct? I took one of those guys out this summer out here for salmon and he was on the phone with one of the charters he knows sharing info. I found out that charter was out 8 of past 10 days and that was mid summer and limited almost every day. I'm not sure where these full coolers of fish are coming from then? Must be another Walleye lake in Ohio that produces that many. Not every charter makes it out 5 days a week but some do during parts of the year. To think a charter will not book 5 days a week if possible and will tell his paying clients you can't keep that 10# fish is a false reality when his clients are shelling out hundreds to get those fish. They also fish in some rough stuff if they can get out they will fish.
I told myself that the first pound and a half Bluegill that I caught was going on the wall. But when I finally held that fish, I just couldn't do it. And since that time I have released several more of equal or slightly greater size. Everytime I think "this is the one", I'm reminded of something I was taught as a boy, growing up in an outdoor orientated family.Nearly everyone in my extended family hunted and fished, as a means of putting food on the table. And most of those guys were pretty slick at it too. But no one, not one single person, had a trophy anything on the wall. The way it was explained to me was perhaps overly simplistic, but it's stuck with me for all these years....that being that there are three reasons to kill any animal (including fish)....the three "P's"Profit.....usually by selling fur.Provisions.....to keep your family fed.Protection....self explanatory, if somewhat unlikely in these parts.There's a fourth "P" that was regarded as unacceptable in my family....Pride. To kill something just because it was the biggest of its kind, simply wasn't condoned.That was a long time ago, and a lot has changed since then. And while I respect and acknowledge the deeply personal reasons involved in deciding whether or not to hang a trophy on the wall, I still struggle with it where my own catches are concerned. For me, I've just seen too many trophy "walls"....I still think I would like a trophy Bluegill of two pounds or greater. ONE fish.....not just the biggest one to date. There are big fish, and then there are trophy fish....for me, the trophy bar needs to be raised well beyond the reach of big fish, to include only a once-in-a-lifetime fish. I don't begrudge anyone their right to hang a fish on the wall. If it's legal, and the fishery can support it, and it makes you happy, then I say go for it.Just my opinion, offered as one guy's viewpoint. Not meant to pass judgement on anyone's harvest practices at all.
Thats actually true I know guys who live there and spend 100+ days a year on the water. I guess my friends who live on Erie and troll out there all through open water season and personally know several charters are sending me pics from those charters that are not correct? I took one of those guys out this summer out here for salmon and he was on the phone with one of the charters he knows sharing info. I found out that charter was out 8 of past 10 days and that was mid summer and limited almost every day running out 15 miles, the fish were loaded on the thermal break. I'm not sure where these full coolers of fish are coming from then? Must be another Walleye lake in Ohio that produces that many. Not every charter makes it out 5 days a week but some do during parts of the year. To think a charter will not book 5 days a week if possible and will tell his paying clients you can't keep that 10# fish is a false reality when his clients are shelling out hundreds to get those fish. They also fish in some rough stuff if they can get out they will fish.
Seems Mr. Ice rat is a biologist in not only white tails but lake erie walleye.
I think Lake Erie is starting to get fished out already . I fished all day Saturday and form 7 to 2:30 Sunday and never cought a walleye this past weekend . Seen a few cought by others but they must of been the last ones in that lake .
I caught one decent fish this past sat. but by all means Do Not use blake calvert! Not a good guide whats so ever
I`m just wondering if in 20 or 30 years I'll see pics of the Erie trips and the likes from this year on the Cabelas or Bass Pro walls and hear people saying "boy, remember when you could catch fish like that?" Basically saying the reason you don't see catches like you do in those black and white photos is because they kept all the big fish and selective harvest wasn't even a though. I wonder what the Erie fishery will be like in 5 years when all these breeders are no longer in the lake. Kids should be taught responsibility not just going fishing and keeping everything you catch. Actually, they should be taught to put the trophies back so their kids have a fishery to enjoy. Being a glutton doesn't apply to just eating.
I'll eat any and all larger fish I've legally taken. First because I can and secondly, big eyes over 6 lbs lets say are not the breeders contrary to popular belief. Its these treasured 14-15 inch males and 17-20 inch females who do the best. Look at it this way. Whos more likely to reproduce strong healthy young, your grandma or your 22 year old daughter? Hell its been proven most of the giants dont even dump their eggs, they merely absorb them. I've caught big females a month after the spawn who are loaded up with dingy orange looking eggs. Do your homework before you make such an ill informed statement sir.