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This has got to be the most ignorant thread I've ever seen.... Go catch a fish and quit arguing like teenage girls....
Next thing you know they will be accusing the cattle ranchers of colluding with Russia.
Like to be a fly on the wall of any ranchers house that read this. Hope that $400 + per didn't harm your business too bad. What an f-ing joke.
So far, folks have ridiculed Wenger for his defense of guiding and the wealth it brings into the state...What's more, someone else attacked guides for making a living off a natural resource. Really? Are you willing to apply the same standard to the logging and mining industries, both of which attempt to capitalize on natural resources as well?
2017, total value of beef cattle sold was 1.4 billion. Outfitting had a direct economic impact of 1.8 billion.
Let’s be clear. Trout fishing brings wealth into the state. Guides are a product of trout fishing, not vice versa. Local guides admit the day is coming when floating limits will be needed on the Mo. They don’t pretend crowding isn’t an issue. They don’t, however, attempt to forward an agenda by whining about fictitious burdensome costs of permitting and paperwork associated with guiding. Consequently, I have no problem with the majority of guides. Yes, I believe they and miners and loggers should be regulated and pay for their use of public resources. Crazy, huh.I’m not opposed to guiding. I’m not disputing what appears to be conflicting management with regard to the bass issue in the original post. However, I can’t ignore the recognizable plop of steaming horse apples being presented to generate anti-FWP sentiment.
I can only comment on whst its like where I live but here In the bitterroot there are too many guides, I realize that it brings in money for the local businesses, but it sucks for the local fisherman ,unfortunately a large majority of the guides only concern is getting a client fish even if it means intruding on your area , I haven't fished the Bitterroot river in years for 2 reasons the guides and I would rather chace warm water fish
Same reason I gave up fly fishing.
I don't fly fish cause the cut bait always flies off when whipping the fishing rod like a bullwhip.
this thread started out with a legitimate concern..and turned into an ultimate shi? show...how are we gonna manage the fisheries? when there is such a knee jerk...uneducated...RA CIST...and depressing response....it started with a legitimate post about the current state of warm water fisheries..and turned into bashing guides....what a joke....but I think in some ways wenger brought it on to himself....as much as I agree with so much he says...hit a hornets nest..expect to get stung....no matter how solid your position..i grew up with cows...in many ways...ranchers are the ultimate liberal but yet conservationists....su re I know the whole spiel....I don't want cows degrading the slopes and water qualities of riparian zones..of course...but when you brought cows up?....its touchy....when I was young..we had 300 head on 1500 acres.. I know the time has changed...warm water fisheries management...was the issue that you brought up....not cows..or guides....cows and guides should be shared for another post....
http://www.freerangereport.com/big-tourism-kills-traditional-industries-and-now-its-killing-the-environment/
when people..(poop pounder) say the reason that they gave up fly fishin..is because rich snooty people ruined it for them ..are turds...don't blame it on the trout.....it was magical to see a trout explode on the water..40 yrs ago..and still the same today...if the haters would ever read a book..read..or re read..the river why...I am currently drowning smelt..the most red kneck way to harvest some pike meat..but I am also casting flies and getting into spring browns,,,,yes...snooty rich trout fisherman are one thing..but to say that's why you don't fly fish anymore? means you are lazy..blaming others for your own shortcomings...and have no confidence in your own skill that you need a bucket of worms and a 12 pack of beer to catch a fish....
it was magical to see a trout explode on the water..
you have a good point hoofer.....and I never tried the soaking of worms in corona like Q suggests.. guess there are always two sides to the conversation....