THAT IS HARD TO BELIEVE!!!!! THAT PLACE IS IN SUCH A HOLE AND AT A PRETY GOOD ELEVATION, I THOUGHT FOR SURE IT WOULD BE OK. MAYBE THEY GOT SOME REALY HEAVY RAIN.....I JUST CHECKED A SMALL POND HERE IN ULSTER COUNTY, GOT ON WITH A 5' PLANK WENT OUT ABOUT 10' ,CHOPPED A HOLE, 5" OF ICE. I AM GOIN MONDAY!!