tnord,been using my slammer for three seasons now...It`s become part of my arsonal.From shallow `bows to deep lakers. The trick for me was the correct rod length (5' ugly-stick) ultra lite. And getting it set ie paper clip,key ring ect. Set the drag med lite so it wont brake on the initial release,but heavy enough to set the hook...Alot like a down rigger.Hope it helps .flag`s up!!!