Poll

Statewide panfish limit of 10 fish with only one bluegill over 9", one perch over 12" and one crappie over 13".

YES (For)
29 (53.7%)
NO (Opposed)
25 (46.3%)

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Offline Wilb3

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #30 on: Feb 14, 2013, 08:59 PM »
Why not trust Game and Parks to do their job! They post lenght limits when need be.  I dont understand what the crying is about. I can go to Wagontrain and catch nice gills all day long. Head to Summit once a year and find nice crappie where theyre said to be gone! Lets enforce the regs we have now before wanting to add more. We already cut limit from 25-15. I rather like 15.  And if you fill water over the fish in a ziplock, they will never burn.  I seldom keep fish, but am tired of the C&R pressure.  Tired of people being flamed for doing nothing wrong!
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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #31 on: Feb 14, 2013, 11:15 PM »
Why not trust Game and Parks to do their job! They post lenght limits when need be.  I dont understand what the crying is about. I can go to Wagontrain and catch nice gills all day long. Head to Summit once a year and find nice crappie where theyre said to be gone! Lets enforce the regs we have now before wanting to add more. We already cut limit from 25-15. I rather like 15.  And if you fill water over the fish in a ziplock, they will never freezer burn.  I seldom keep fish, but am tired of the C&R pressure.  Tired of people being flamed for doing nothing wrong!

Really?  Do you suppose at the last budget meeting for any one of the divisions of the NGPC they were asked how many fish were harvested in any given slot for specific lakes, or do you suppose they had to justify their decisions monetarily?  This is a serious question.

If you think that decisions regarding fish and game in ANY state are based on the resource as compared to how to maximize the monies generated from said resources, you are kidding yourself.

The reason I included a picture of a high dollar choice of fishing gear is because those are the very people that say, 'I would pay another $20 to fish high quality trophy lakes'.  Well, guess what?  The extra $20 isn't a big deal, but the $100 in gas, bait, licenses, food, etc is a big deal.

I don't have the luxury of taking my $300 case of rods 500 miles away to fish a 'trophy' fishery.  I just want to take my kid fishing and keep a few to eat every once in a while without anyone looking down their nose at me.

I'm done now. 

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #32 on: Feb 15, 2013, 11:30 AM »
Really?  Do you suppose at the last budget meeting for any one of the divisions of the NGPC they were asked how many fish were harvested in any given slot for specific lakes, or do you suppose they had to justify their decisions monetarily?  This is a serious question.

If you think that decisions regarding fish and game in ANY state are based on the resource as compared to how to maximize the monies generated from said resources, you are kidding yourself.


Sorry, again I am calling BALONEY on this one.

Here is our mission statement:

"The mission of the Nebraska Game and Parks Commission is stewardship of the state's fish, wildlife, park, and outdoor recreation resources in the best long-term interests of the people and those resources.

To accomplish that purpose, the Commission plans and implements its policies and programs efficiently and objectively; maintains a rich and diverse environment in Nebraska's lands and waters; provides outdoor recreation opportunities; manages wildlife resources for the maximum benefit of the people; and attempts to help Nebraskans appreciate their role in the natural world."

Fisheries management in Nebraska is paid for entirely by license sales and by excise taxes collected from the sales of fishing and boating equipment.  We have fixed budgets, limited budgets, and have to be fiscally responsible.  There ain't no deficit spending or debts here.  Yes, there are limitations to what we can accomplish for our fisheries resources because of a lack of money, but we do NOT manage fish and wildlife resources just so we can make money off of them.  None of us working as fisheries biologists are doing it for the money, we are doing it because it is our passion and we deeply care about our fisheries resources.  If we had unlimited funds we could do even more, but we all know that reality is there are going to be certain budget constraints, we are going to have to do "more with less" (have heard that often in recent years), and we will continue to do our best.

We have tried to increase our funding in recent years by reversing the long-term declines in fishing participation and fishing license sales (a nation-wide decline).  We are involved in recruitment and retention efforts on many levels.  But one of the best ways I know to get more people fishing, to sell more permits and sell more fishing equipment, is by being good stewards of our fisheries resources and making the fishing as available and as good as it can be.  That is what we are trying to do, and in providing that we will continue to have the funding to take care of those resources in the future.

Daryl Bauer
Fisheries Outreach Program Manager
Nebraska Game & Parks Commission
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http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/blogs/category/barbs-and-backlashes//

Daryl Bauer
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http://neblandvm.outdoornebraska.gov/category/barbs-and-backlashes/

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #33 on: Feb 16, 2013, 10:30 PM »
Sorry, again I am calling BALONEY on this one.

Here is our mission statement:

"The mission of the Nebraska Game and Parks Commission is stewardship of the state's fish, wildlife, park, and outdoor recreation resources in the best long-term interests of the people and those resources.

To accomplish that purpose, the Commission plans and implements its policies and programs efficiently and objectively; maintains a rich and diverse environment in Nebraska's lands and waters; provides outdoor recreation opportunities; manages wildlife resources for the maximum benefit of the people; and attempts to help Nebraskans appreciate their role in the natural world."

Fisheries management in Nebraska is paid for entirely by license sales and by excise taxes collected from the sales of fishing and boating equipment.  We have fixed budgets, limited budgets, and have to be fiscally responsible.  There ain't no deficit spending or debts here.  Yes, there are limitations to what we can accomplish for our fisheries resources because of a lack of money, but we do NOT manage fish and wildlife resources just so we can make money off of them.  None of us working as fisheries biologists are doing it for the money, we are doing it because it is our passion and we deeply care about our fisheries resources.  If we had unlimited funds we could do even more, but we all know that reality is there are going to be certain budget constraints, we are going to have to do "more with less" (have heard that often in recent years), and we will continue to do our best.

We have tried to increase our funding in recent years by reversing the long-term declines in fishing participation and fishing license sales (a nation-wide decline).  We are involved in recruitment and retention efforts on many levels.  But one of the best ways I know to get more people fishing, to sell more permits and sell more fishing equipment, is by being good stewards of our fisheries resources and making the fishing as available and as good as it can be.  That is what we are trying to do, and in providing that we will continue to have the funding to take care of those resources in the future.

Daryl Bauer
Fisheries Outreach Program Manager
Nebraska Game & Parks Commission
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http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/blogs/category/barbs-and-backlashes//

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #34 on: Feb 18, 2013, 03:18 PM »
Sorry, again I am calling BALONEY on this one.

Here is our mission statement:

"The mission of the Nebraska Game and Parks Commission is stewardship of the state's fish, wildlife, park, and outdoor recreation resources in the best long-term interests of the people and those resources.

To accomplish that purpose, the Commission plans and implements its policies and programs efficiently and objectively; maintains a rich and diverse environment in Nebraska's lands and waters; provides outdoor recreation opportunities; manages wildlife resources for the maximum benefit of the people; and attempts to help Nebraskans appreciate their role in the natural world."

Fisheries management in Nebraska is paid for entirely by license sales and by excise taxes collected from the sales of fishing and boating equipment.  We have fixed budgets, limited budgets, and have to be fiscally responsible.  There ain't no deficit spending or debts here.  Yes, there are limitations to what we can accomplish for our fisheries resources because of a lack of money, but we do NOT manage fish and wildlife resources just so we can make money off of them.  None of us working as fisheries biologists are doing it for the money, we are doing it because it is our passion and we deeply care about our fisheries resources.  If we had unlimited funds we could do even more, but we all know that reality is there are going to be certain budget constraints, we are going to have to do "more with less" (have heard that often in recent years), and we will continue to do our best.

We have tried to increase our funding in recent years by reversing the long-term declines in fishing participation and fishing license sales (a nation-wide decline).  We are involved in recruitment and retention efforts on many levels.  But one of the best ways I know to get more people fishing, to sell more permits and sell more fishing equipment, is by being good stewards of our fisheries resources and making the fishing as available and as good as it can be.  That is what we are trying to do, and in providing that we will continue to have the funding to take care of those resources in the future.

Daryl Bauer
Fisheries Outreach Program Manager
Nebraska Game & Parks Commission
[email protected]
http://outdoornebraska.ne.gov/blogs/category/barbs-and-backlashes//

I am so glad you're on here now.  Cuts alot of BS.  Instead of just talking about G&P, we can talk to them. 

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #35 on: Apr 05, 2013, 02:23 AM »
There are more than a few lakes in this state the could easily be trophy Gill Lakes.  Some State and some Federal lakes.  I believe a couple lakes have been set aside by the state to be total catch and release trophy lakes.  Wouldn't it be great if some of the refuge lakes (FEDS) were turned into bluegill trophy lakes?  Right now they get pounded every year through the ice.  Giant gills fill buckets every day.  Why not put a 9" limit on Pelican and a few other gill lakes up there?  Of course this is the Feds area so who knows.  I know of a central NE lake capable of producing refuge quality gills but it will never happen since it gets hammered year after year.  I would love to see some refuge lakes try this out for a few years.  It could be amazing if enforced. 

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #36 on: Sep 29, 2013, 06:54 PM »
yes
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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #37 on: Oct 21, 2013, 04:57 AM »
Lets open this back up and see what happens.....

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« Reply #38 on: Oct 21, 2013, 07:24 AM »
Sounds good and thanks Hoosier
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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #39 on: Oct 21, 2013, 11:36 AM »
I'm still in favor.

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #40 on: Oct 23, 2013, 08:06 AM »
When panfish limits went from 30 to 15 a day a few years ago, people had a fit. Poachers still take too many fish. And it isn't the immigrant family that's doing it. I fish nearly every day, and when I see the same half dozen old farmers bring home a five gallon bucket of gills or crappie every time out "because it's their right" I know why the fish never get bigger than 6 or 7 inches. Habitat improvement and education will do more to improve our fishing than complex limits.
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« Reply #41 on: Oct 24, 2013, 02:01 PM »
When panfish limits went from 30 to 15 a day a few years ago, people had a fit. Poachers still take too many fish. And it isn't the immigrant family that's doing it. I fish nearly every day, and when I see the same half dozen old farmers bring home a five gallon bucket of gills or crappie every time out "because it's their right" I know why the fish never get bigger than 6 or 7 inches. Habitat improvement and education will do more to improve our fishing than complex limits.

So, who's going to educate the "same half dozen old farmers"?

Daryl B.
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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #42 on: Dec 06, 2013, 10:39 AM »
I would like to see the limit lowered to 10.

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #43 on: Dec 15, 2013, 09:12 PM »
I would be more comfortable implementing spanish regulation signs on public waters... before anyone gets offended or calls me a racist, Im speaking from experience.  I live and patrol an area with a heavy hispanic/mexican population, a lot of who fish.  Now this isn't necessarily ice fishing, but I feel our fish populations would be a lot better off if our non english speaking fishermen knew the regulations, or were given a chance to learn the regulations.   Not really length limit related, but something that needs to be addressed... Signs in spanish won't break the bank NGPC

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« Reply #44 on: Dec 15, 2013, 09:43 PM »
I would be more comfortable implementing spanish regulation signs on public waters... before anyone gets offended or calls me a racist, Im speaking from experience.  I live and patrol an area with a heavy hispanic/mexican population, a lot of who fish.  Now this isn't necessarily ice fishing, but I feel our fish populations would be a lot better off if our non english speaking fishermen knew the regulations, or were given a chance to learn the regulations.   Not really length limit related, but something that needs to be addressed... Signs in spanish won't break the bank NGPC

That is part of what is wrong. They need to LEARN English. Pandering will not help.

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« Reply #45 on: Dec 15, 2013, 10:47 PM »
eepks, you cannot force someone to learn english when its not the official language, while its the most used language, they're not forced to learn it...  is it frustrating?  yes... would it be easier and more efficient to put out signs in spanish?  (or in my case, learn spanish for law enforcement)... yes

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« Reply #46 on: Dec 15, 2013, 10:52 PM »
So, who's going to educate the "same half dozen old farmers"?

Daryl B.


How about hire more game wardens in the more populated areas of eastern Nebraska?  Deputy Sheriff's shouldn't get calls on their personal cell phones while on vacation by concerned fisherman should they?

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« Reply #47 on: Dec 15, 2013, 11:37 PM »
eepks, you cannot force someone to learn english when its not the official language, while its the most used language, they're not forced to learn it...  is it frustrating?  yes... would it be easier and more efficient to put out signs in spanish?  (or in my case, learn spanish for law enforcement)... yes
So besides signs you want LEO to learn Spanish? You sir ARE the problem.

 If caught, no excuse, they get the ticket. I bet they learn English real fast.

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« Reply #48 on: Dec 16, 2013, 09:19 AM »
I am LEO and before you put your foot in your mouth, most of us in the profession are not as close minded as you, and wish we knew Spanish.  Being an adult is adapting to the world around you.... not demanding the world change for you.  To your other point, regardless if they understand the regulations, ignorance in the law is not an excuse to violate it, and if they do, they're issued a citation.... (from my experience, they tend to forget english when we show up)

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« Reply #49 on: Dec 16, 2013, 11:59 AM »
Some (most?) of us do enjoy hearing a LEO's perspective on enforcement, its frustrations, possible solutions, and lots of other issues.

I also agree that life would be simpler if everyone in the U.S. spoke and understood English, but I'm afraid the days of "love it or leave it" have expired.

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #50 on: Dec 23, 2013, 01:01 AM »
I agree with eyewinder!!!!!  ;D
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« Reply #51 on: Jan 02, 2014, 02:07 PM »
Enough guys are commenting on this one it should stay near the top. Thanks everyone for your comments.

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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #52 on: Jan 03, 2014, 04:40 PM »
Don't some lakes need some harvest of panfish.  For instance mesketine or the Fremont middle school lake.  They are just loaded with stunted immature gills how can you get rid of them without total killing the lake.  I just don't see the point of these limits if they will not be enforced.  I like the big fish rules let them go but if I want a bucket of eight inch gills I paid for my license just like you did so I should be able to take that said bucket home and make fish tacos.  The limits where cut in half for a reason let them take there toll it isn't going to change a lake in a year or two.  If lakes need special regs put it on certain lakes, but don't expect me to quit eating panfish because that's not gonna happen.
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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #53 on: Jan 04, 2014, 02:39 PM »
no

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« Reply #54 on: Jan 05, 2014, 04:38 PM »
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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #55 on: Jan 06, 2014, 10:20 AM »
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Re: Nebraska Length Limit Poll
« Reply #56 on: Jan 06, 2014, 10:36 AM »
I think we have this control already in place.  It's called possession limits.  Perhaps if these fellows that fish everyday had their freezers checked part of the problem would go away. 

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« Reply #57 on: Jan 06, 2014, 02:14 PM »
I think we have this control already in place.  It's called possession limits.  Perhaps if these fellows that fish everyday had their freezers checked part of the problem would go away.

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« Reply #58 on: Jan 06, 2014, 04:45 PM »
I think we have this control already in place.  It's called possession limits.  Perhaps if these fellows that fish everyday had their freezers checked part of the problem would go away.

While I don't support some of their tactics, the G&F does this in Wyoming and it is effective. I've had my freezer checked in Wyoming and I know a number of guys that have as well.  If the same guy is going to the same lake and taking a limit every day, he should probably be made aware... and nothing like a few spot checks to spread the word that it really isn't a free for all.
If you get right down to it, there aren't too many people who even have the time to abuse these small sandhill lakes. It's a long drive to get there for most folks.  Maybe it's time to police them a bit...?

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« Reply #59 on: Jan 07, 2014, 04:33 PM »
Don't some lakes need some harvest of panfish.  For instance mesketine or the Fremont middle school lake.  They are just loaded with stunted immature gills how can you get rid of them without total killing the lake.  I just don't see the point of these limits if they will not be enforced.  I like the big fish rules let them go but if I want a bucket of eight inch gills I paid for my license just like you did so I should be able to take that said bucket home and make fish tacos.  The limits where cut in half for a reason let them take there toll it isn't going to change a lake in a year or two.  If lakes need special regs put it on certain lakes, but don't expect me to quit eating panfish because that's not gonna happen.

How do you know those panfish were stunted?  Did you age them?

I have seen way more panfish populations in Nebraska that were suffering from over-harvest than populations that were "stunted".

Keep in mind that panfish can reproduce at very small sizes and very young ages; if you want to prevent "stunting" you need to be harvesting panfish way smaller than you want to clean.

http://neblandvm.outdoornebraska.gov/2010/01/stunted/

http://neblandvm.outdoornebraska.gov/2013/01/pigs-ice/

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