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I've been pretty curious about the Ram half ton diesel edition. MPG looks great.
That's the thing, in my current tundra the back seats are just as big as the front, much bigger than some of the rear cabs on other makes. I have teens now, smaller back seat won't do it. Price of these things is almost as much as I paid for my house.
What JDK said...for what you spend on a truck you can buy a nice boat with all the fising gear you could want and have enough left for decent sled or wheeler, and probably more.
It may be less of an issue for you folks in the balmy south; but service is definitely a consideration for us up here. The nearest Toyota dealer is an hour away, and the nearest Nissan dealer is 3 hours away - not convenient for warranty or recall work. Service after the sale is huge for me, so if you have a dealer you can trust, that might help tip the scale.
As Mark knows, my mechanic is on speed dial, right next to the liquor store and anger management hotline.
I read this fast Jay and thought it said auger management hotline.
Jay's mechanic always seems to be driving a new truck. I wonder why
I’m fairly rough on my trucks but try to get 10 years out of them. I bought my last truck new in 2003, a base model GMC 1500. It lasted 9 years & about 140k. I could probably still be driving it had I wanted to screw around with repairs & tires. However, it was needing serious attention in January 2012. Rather than miss any ice fishing trips I stopped in the yota dealership on my way home from an ice fishing trip. Drove home that night with a 2012 double cab tundra. It’s been a decent truck but frankly, I’ve been underwhelmed… As some note, the mileage is bad, 12-13mpg (<10 if towing). That doesn’t bother me much- someone driving 12k a year would save about $75 per month if they went from 12-13 to 21mpg over 5 years. My bigger issue around gas is the itsy bitsy tank size. Mine is 26 gallon but shows empty at 21… I get a 300 mile range which is unacceptable. I understand they are offering a 30 or 33 gallon tank now. Engine noise in cabin is drastically louder than the Ford, Dodge, or GMC/Chevy. My father has a 2012 Dodge, he can’t get over how much quieter his is. He likes his first dodge (ford guy) and it is nice. Accelerator is touchy & difficult to get used to. Your wife’s whiplash curing skills may come in handy. Paint scratches extremely easily. It also dents easier but kinda pop out easier as well. The effn lighters, USBs, etc do not charge when the key is off. This one kills me because it would take approximately 2 years for a phone charging to drain a battery that is never started. For those of us with camps (Real camps, no power) find keeping phone alive can be a hassle. Yes, you can buy this & that but c’mon man!A pita to change the oil (If you do it) due to a skid plate, which others may have. It also needs a special wrench since it’s a cartridge… about $30 for a good wrench. I don’t find its been any more reliable than my old GMC. Of course I’m just getting to the point things may start failing. Twice it’s kind of locked in 4wd. Can’t get it out, starts flashing warnings that don’t sound good about limp mode. Dealer found nothing wrong. :-/ I broke a part up front that LOOKS way more rugged than the Ford/GMC (I said I was rough on equipment but doing 70 on paper roads should be considered normal).On the bright side the front end, frame & other parts are beefier than the competitors until you get to their HD’s. Mine is a double cab, more room than in the competitors. I drove a new GMC recently & the seating felt odd, Yota seats sits up higher off floor or something. Anyone ever hear of NUMMI? Where Yota & GM partnered? They created the Toyota Aztek I think it was & the exact same car was the Pontiac Matrix. The only difference was the badging. I don’t recall the exact numbers but without exception the Toyota scored higher on reliability, cost to run, satisfaction, everything. The same car, same plant. My point is, some folks just think it’s better because it’s a Toyota and you won’t change minds. All that said, I’d do what someone above said, test drive them all. I really liked that GMC and would probably lean that way. But yota would certainly be in the running. Fords should never rust again, right? Do you need new, even if you get 8-10k off sticker, your taxes are based on the big numba. Just don’t make any snap decisions like Jay buying the first boat he saw. Hopefully I try the tundra with chains this weekend. ;-) Yes, it took me 6 hours at work to write this up. Exhausting, can I go home now? You bought a tundra Dave!?
You bought a tundra Dave!?
I have the 13 Ford with ECO BOOST.... Not a true fan.... hate the Turbo lag..... Plus a couple years pounding the dirt roads, like Paul said.... At 70.... has started tom take it toll on her... But I also had 2 Fords prior to this one and loved them... I've been looking at the Dodge... But we will see when the time comes.
I run a 2016 f-150 super crew with the 2.7 eco boost. No complaints so far, it gets 20mpg around town and 24ish on the highway. Its quick and will tow just under 8,000 pounds total weight. Every thing i have towed with it dose not seem to bother it, boats, cars, a truck, some smaller equipment...etc. Check them out the body's are all aluminum so no rust.
