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Title: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Mancaveburnett on Nov 19, 2017, 05:09 PM
I usually just jig fish with a pole and use a flasher. I was thinking about adding a jawjacker. If I'm in my flip over I was thinking it would be fun to put one 20 or 30 feet out. Does anyone with experience with one think it's worth buying? For those that own one, do you use it regularly?
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: stinkyfingers on Nov 19, 2017, 05:31 PM
Some people can't stand the idea of a trigger actuated hook set as being contrary to the spirit of "Fair Chase". Of course there are some people, like fly fishermen in particular with their "match the hatch", who believe that ice guys in general are just meat hunters and are not to be considered sportsmen. Knuckle walkers. Booger eaters.
  I made my own Jacker type units years ago and they have served me well as just another arrow in the quiver. Sometimes I'll go all deadsticks while I sit in the shelter and cook a tasty meal. Let the little snappers stand guard meanwhile. Hark, another fish on.
  Just go ahead and buy one. A soft glass rod or UglyStik or JawJacker rod seems to work best.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Deal Ninja on Nov 19, 2017, 05:45 PM
Some people can't stand the idea of a trigger actuated hook set as being contrary to the spirit of "Fair Chase". Of course there are some people, like fly fishermen in particular with their "match the hatch", who believe that ice guys in general are just meat hunters and are not to be considered sportsmen. Knuckle walkers. Booger eaters.
  I made my own Jacker type units years ago and they have served me well as just another arrow in the quiver. Sometimes I'll go all deadsticks while I sit in the shelter and cook a tasty meal. Let the little snappers stand guard meanwhile. Hark, another fish on.
  Just go ahead and buy one. A soft glass rod or UglyStik or JawJacker rod seems to work best.

X2
They're really fun and a quality rig.
I have 4 and basically use them in place of olf-fashioned tip-ups. 
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Nov 19, 2017, 06:35 PM
I switched from the jawjacker to the AK SalmonBear self setting rod holders and couldn't be happier with them.
They have a better design.
But yes I use mine quite often.
I like them better than a standard TipUp.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: efka on Nov 19, 2017, 06:39 PM
less than $5



Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: pmac3 on Nov 19, 2017, 07:11 PM
They’re definitely worth it, especially for trout. They take a little playing around with in setting the trip tension. And no gut hooks, hooking fish nicely in the jaw.. who new?  ;D
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: lil_coondog on Nov 19, 2017, 07:44 PM
I've got 2. Use them a bunch. Work great
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Chautauquafish on Nov 20, 2017, 11:25 AM
Used them for pike last year. I was suspect at first but they worked great! I’d still rather see a flag pop up anyway though.  :tipup:
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: lowaccord66 on Nov 20, 2017, 01:44 PM
Value is in the eye of the beholder for what its worth.... ;)
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: skinny4 on Nov 20, 2017, 06:48 PM
Anybody have any auto hooker gadgets that set the hook on small perch?
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Nov 20, 2017, 07:25 PM
Anybody have any auto hooker gadgets that set the hook on small perch?
While we don't have perch here I am sure my SalmonBear can be set light enough to work on small ones.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Unclegillhunter on Nov 21, 2017, 05:39 AM
Anybody have any auto hooker gadgets that set the hook on small perch?
Youtube has quite a few vids a couple show people perch fishing,
Keep it safe!
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Big Ice Hole on Nov 21, 2017, 09:09 AM
Are they legal in N.Y.?
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Nov 21, 2017, 05:47 PM
Worth buying?

I'd say if you're indolent and edacious, then yes!
How are users of self setters any more indolent than users of  standard TipUps?
They work great and are legal in all states except MN.

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Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: lowaccord66 on Nov 22, 2017, 01:49 AM
How are users of self setters any more indolent than users of  standard TipUps?
They work great and are legal in all states except MN.

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To understand that answer you must have a long list of gear in your signature!    :P
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: masoneddie on Nov 22, 2017, 02:16 AM
Worth buying?

I'd say if you're indolent and edacious, then yes!

  Thanks for the new words.. :clap: :thumbsup: :bow:  Neither one fits me personally, but I'll use them for the word of the day at our shop..right under imbecilic    ;D
 
  To the OP, Mancaveburnett,  I have 4 JawJackers in my arsenal...they work great and are a lot of fun!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Hardwaternubie53 on Nov 22, 2017, 07:32 AM
The jury is still out. Was on Pisico last year with one. The trout drove me crazy, stealing bait, then went over and got caught by my buddies tipup.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: desmobob on Nov 22, 2017, 08:05 PM
I usually just jig fish with a pole and use a flasher. I was thinking about adding a jawjacker. If I'm in my flip over I was thinking it would be fun to put one 20 or 30 feet out. Does anyone with experience with one think it's worth buying? For those that own one, do you use it regularly?

I bought one to give it a try last season.  I liked it a lot and bought another one.  I just ordered a third one today.  :-)

Tight lines,
Bob
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Fish-N-Adventures on Nov 23, 2017, 01:06 PM
I would say yes, if you want to use a rod instead of a tipup.
I've gotten perch, crappie and pike on mine.
Buy one, give it a go, just practice setting it at home first, that way you get a feel for setting it.
Tight lines.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: bushyjr on Nov 26, 2017, 09:00 AM
I started with jj but now run automatic fishermen feel the plastic is better and will last longer with less moving legs and points.   And the autos use a great bobber system.   Definitely they can help on lots of days with better hook up over standard tip ups.    Good luck
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Ziehnertfish007 on Nov 30, 2017, 08:07 PM
Jawjackers have been awesome for me, caught plenty of fish on them last year with nothing gut hooked. Only issue i have is sometimes it may go off if the sensitivity is too high and then you end up losing your bait.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Flatland on Dec 01, 2017, 04:27 PM
In my opinion definitely worth it. There is just something so satisfying about hearing the rod go off and then watching the "fight" as you head over there. A bonus is that you don't have to wonder whether it is a wind flag or one tripped by the bait; you can visually tell from a distance whether a fish is on or not. I have both Jawjackers and a couple of Automatic Fishermen. As others have stated, materials are sturdier with the AF (JJ feel on the flimsy side). Other than that, both products do the trick.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Papa Sly on Dec 03, 2017, 03:57 PM
As I have said in the general chat any type of self setters take all the fun and challenge out of setting the hook.(my opinion) It's like having dad or gramps set the hook and hand you the rod when we were to young to do it ourselves. Anyone can reel in a fish when set was done by someone or something else. That being said I love using rods so I dead stick all the time with finicky foolers. Very adjustable, compact and work great while still giving you the challenge of the hook set. When I am fishing with my young grandson I set up a Jaw Jacker for him but once he hits 8 years old he will have to learn to set himself.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: IFF on Dec 03, 2017, 05:34 PM
My thoughts are, its a fad, I made my own, using an old flash light case as the rod holder, an old fiberglass rod, trigger can be made out of a coat hanger, I used a brass rod as the trip.

They are fine if you aim is to harvest fish.
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Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Keng8554 on Dec 03, 2017, 05:42 PM
I love mine for panfish. I think it's more likely to catch nibblers than a deadstick or anything else that doesn't drive the hook home. You can set it so light that you can trigger it by basically blowing on it. Also, I'd say its actually rare that the rod is triggered and the fish isn't pinned.

My set up was typically a jig tipped with a waxie, but also have set kastmasters tipped with waxies. It worked for small northern 4 inch shiners and treble.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: pmac3 on Dec 03, 2017, 07:17 PM
My thoughts are, its a fad, I made my own, using an old flash light case as the rod holder, an old fiberglass rod, trigger can be made out of a coat hanger, I used a brass rod as the trip.

They are fine if you aim is to harvest fish.
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I don’t see why they would only be preferable only to those harvesting fish. I’ve never gut-hooked a fish on one. I think tip-ups do more damage, since fish have time to run with the bait. To each his own I guess. I’ll keep using both  ;D
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Papa Sly on Dec 03, 2017, 07:32 PM
LOL it's like someone shooting the deer 4 you and then you waiting the 1/2 hour and then going to get it and drag it out calling it your deer.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: fullThrottle on Dec 03, 2017, 09:41 PM
Jaw jackers all the way. !  Always catch tons of fish on them. The build quality is great. I own 8 .they can be set up for almost any ice rod. The best thing I like about them is when they go off,the rod whips up and it makes a weird clatter scraping sound on the ice . Once you hear that sound you know what it is ! That always catches my attention faster then a flag
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Dec 03, 2017, 11:45 PM
LOL it's like someone shooting the deer 4 you and then you waiting the 1/2 hour and then going to get it and drag it out calling it your deer.
You select the spot and drill the hole.
You select the lure and tie it on.
You select the bait and hook it how you want.
You set the depth.
You place it in the rod holder and set the trigger sensitivity.
All the self setter does is set the hook when the fish bites.
It's apples and oranges to your deer analogy.
Plus I get more lip hooks with mine then the average dead stick or tip up user.
With the wind, heater noise(when I decide to use it), Snowmobiles, ATV's, wildlife, etc it is hard to hear a deadstick go off.
I know I gut hook way more fish dead sticking or on a tip up then with a self setter.
With a self setter lip hooks are mostly what I get which is great for catch and release.
But it's all good nobody is asking you to use one.
But you won't convince me to leave mine at home either.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: burkdog24 on Dec 04, 2017, 12:36 AM
Jaw Jackers are better for when you are using a baitcaster and Automatic Fishermans are better if you are using a spinning reel. Eric Haataja did a youtube video on it. You can find it easy just search JJ vs AF......
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: desmobob on Dec 04, 2017, 06:13 AM
The best thing I like about them is when they go off,the rod whips up and it makes a weird clatter scraping sound on the ice . Once you hear that sound you know what it is ! That always catches my attention faster then a flag

That's true.   :)   It's a very distinctive sound that no doubt brings a smile to all Jawjacker fishermen!

Tight lines,
Bob
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Papa Sly on Dec 04, 2017, 09:21 AM
You select the spot and drill the hole.
You select the lure and tie it on.
You select the bait and hook it how you want.
You set the depth.
You place it in the rod holder and set the trigger sensitivity.
All the self setter does is set the hook when the fish bites.
It's apples and oranges to your deer analogy.
Plus I get more lip hooks with mine then the average dead stick or tip up user.
With the wind, heater noise(when I decide to use it), Snowmobiles, ATV's, wildlife, etc it is hard to hear a deadstick go off.
I know I gut hook way more fish dead sticking or on a tip up then with a self setter.
With a self setter lip hooks are mostly what I get which is great for catch and release.
But it's all good nobody is asking you to use one.
But you won't convince me to leave mine at home either.
Your right was a bad analogy, it's more like when dad hooks the fish and gives you the rod. But to each his or her own. I just think the hooking of a running fish through the ice is not only the hardest part of the sport but it is also the most sporting part of the sport. Anyone can drop a shiner through a hole but experience and a little luck makes the difference on hooking them.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: desmobob on Dec 04, 2017, 09:30 AM
Interesting.  It had never entered my mind that using Jawjackers made it too easy or took the challenge out of hooking fish. 

My major attraction to them was that they worked like tip-ups, but allowed me have more fun playing the fish on a rod, reel and light line rather than hand-over-hand.  And in jigging situations where I'm targeting panfish to eat, they would be more productive than a normal dead stick.

Tight lines,
Bob
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: dickbaker on Dec 04, 2017, 09:33 AM
I have two jaw jackers.  I like them because I fish for pike a lot and I get much quicker hook set and few deep set hooks.  In NH pike have minimum length of 28 inches so I might release a half dozen fish before I get a keeper.
Dick
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Dec 04, 2017, 10:14 AM
Your right was a bad analogy, it's more like when dad hooks the fish and gives you the rod. But to each his or her own. I just think the hooking of a running fish through the ice is not only the hardest part of the sport but it is also the most sporting part of the sport. Anyone can drop a shiner through a hole but experience and a little luck makes the difference on hooking them.
For me there the greatest challenge is finding the fish and a lure/bait combo that they will hit.
Can't set the hook on fish that are not there!
I've had 5 year olds on the ice that could set the hook and catch the fish consistently after a few minutes of teaching and a couple of tries. I feel that's one of the easier parts of the whole deal IMHO.
Sure I still miss fish but so do self setting rod holders.
But finding the spot that held fish, selecting the lure/bait combo, the proper depth etc. are things that are more challenging and require more experience.
With a self setter hook setting is the only thing I do not do!
Well other than hold the rod I suppose.
When dad sets the hook I just reel it up.
But dad also picks the spot, drills the hole, picks the lure, etc. etc. etc,
Like you said to each his own.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Raquettedacker on Dec 04, 2017, 10:50 AM
I do not have a store made brand but did make one a few seasons ago out of some wood, part of coat hanger, eye screw and an old rod holder I had in the basement..    Works great, so I can see where they can be used in different situations...   Don't see where it would be cheating?   I find you lip hook almost all fish as compared to gut hooking on a tip up...   JMO......
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Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Flatland on Dec 04, 2017, 03:13 PM
Works great, so I can see where they can be used in different situations...   Don't see where it would be cheating?   I find you lip hook almost all fish as compared to gut hooking on a tip up...   JMO......


My thoughts exactly. I mean setting a hook with a handline is not exactly some advanced technique. Jawjackers and similar devices combine the fun of setting up traps with the fun of fighting a fish on rod and reel. Everybody's entitled to their opinion, but this kind of reminds me of the surfcasting guys from stripersonline dumping on the "Bucket Brigade". The bottom line is we all like catching fish.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Papa Sly on Dec 04, 2017, 07:07 PM
I agree but just so everyone knows there are many options where you can HOOK and catch fish on a rod and reel without having the rod holder set the hook for you, IE, finicky foolers, ht riggers, and many others. That is all I was trying to say. I have been ice fishing many years and as long as I use Octopus hooks I can't remember watching a fish die from being gut hooked, at least not in the last few years.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Flatland on Dec 04, 2017, 09:20 PM
Papa Sly - I am with you on the octopus hooks. I use octopus circle hooks on tilts, jaw jackers, you name it. Same with fishing bait for striped bass in saltwater. Although you might miss a fish here and there, you basically eliminate the chance of gut hooking. Glad to see the number of conservation minded guys out there.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: dekatronic on Dec 05, 2017, 02:40 AM
Fishing for me means being actively engaged, staring down the hole or at the flasher with rod in hand. I couldn't fish with just a jaw jacker alone as it's too passive. But if you can fish with two lines then I'd certainly set up a second line with a jaw jacker
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: lockdown199 on Dec 05, 2017, 05:52 PM
Bought 4 a couple of years ago, use them mainly on lakers and they work great.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: hairbone on Dec 06, 2017, 04:13 AM
I switched from the jawjacker to the AK SalmonBear self setting rod holders and couldn't be happier with them.
They have a better design.
But yes I use mine quite often.
I like them better than a standard TipUp.

Ordered 2 of them.  Looks like a better mouse trap
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Finders Keepers on Dec 08, 2017, 04:41 AM
Fishing for me means being actively engaged, staring down the hole or at the flasher with rod in hand. I couldn't fish with just a jaw jacker alone as it's too passive. But if you can fish with two lines then I'd certainly set up a second line with a jaw jacker

We can run 7 lines at a time in NY, so depending on what we're after, I'll usually set-up 6 Automatic Fisherman units with Blue Tipz devices and jig in the shanty at the same time. Extremely effective when targeting pike and panfish/perch at the same time. There are cases where tip-ups work better, but most often times an Automatic Fisherman will outperform a tip-up. Biggest thing for me is fighting the fish on rod & reel versus handlining with the line ending up on the ice, catching on ice chunks, freezing up, etc. I prefer Auto's over the JJ due to it's simple design, overall durability, and it's the original concept design. The durability factor alone is a huge asset in my book when it comes to the extreme conditions we encounter on the ice. @)
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Stickhick86 on Dec 08, 2017, 05:32 AM
I made something similar to the salmon bear using a rat trap and some pvc. I used a coat hanger for the trigger and it works great. caught two nice bows with it last season. Hoping to be on the ice more this season to test it out some more.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Spider1 on Dec 08, 2017, 05:50 AM
a buddy of mine loves them. He has a few and sets them up and then sits in his sled and jigs while waiting for the JJ to pop. Me, I will set a couple tip ups and then sit and jig while waiting for a flag to pop. I prefer the tip up just cuz I think it's fun hand lining a fish in. To each his own. I say try one or 2 and see how you feel about it.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Mancaveburnett on Dec 08, 2017, 05:54 AM
I recently bought the jaw jacker, I can't wait to try it out. This forum is great it really give a lot of insight from actual ice fisherman not just vendors/ salespeople.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Stickhick86 on Dec 08, 2017, 05:55 AM
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Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: bart on Dec 08, 2017, 06:13 AM
Talk about "building a better mouse trap"...   ;D
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Post by: Stickhick86 on Dec 08, 2017, 06:15 AM
hahaha I didn't like the prices of the stuff that was out there so I made my own
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: skinny4 on Dec 08, 2017, 06:32 AM
I wouldnt fish with just traps. I have 20+ working tipups of various types. Hardly fish without  a few of them either. My problem is with perch tripping them and dropping the bait. If the jj or af will set the hook on a 6" perch and not go off on every wind gust id buy them.
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Post by: YukonCorleone on Dec 08, 2017, 08:27 AM
I like using mine, definitely worth a try.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Papa Sly on Dec 08, 2017, 09:08 AM
Fishing for me means being actively engaged, staring down the hole or at the flasher with rod in hand. I couldn't fish with just a jaw jacker alone as it's too passive. But if you can fish with two lines then I'd certainly set up a second line with a jaw jacker
I never use circle hooks anymore, tried them but lost a lot more fish that way. I use regular octopus hooks(size 1/0 to 5/0)in different glo colors on 18-24 inch 30# flourp leaders crimped all the time now, no more knots. For pike , bass, and walleye I also use blades and beads. I get 3x as many flags with the beads and blades as without.
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Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: flukeman on Dec 08, 2017, 10:07 AM
I never use circle hooks anymore, tried them but lost a lot more fish that way. I use regular octopus hooks(size 1/0 to 5/0)in different glo colors on 18-24 inch 30# flourp leaders crimped all the time now, no more knots. For pike , bass, and walleye I also use blades and beads. I get 3x as many flags with the beads and blades as without.
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Thanks for the pick and idea! Had a couple questions about this:
1. What do you use for your crimping materials/tools?
2. Do you ever lose fish because the crimp cuts the flouro or can the flouro slip back thru?

Thanks
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kayl on Dec 08, 2017, 10:57 AM
Thanks for the pick and idea! Had a couple questions about this:
1. What do you use for your crimping materials/tools?
2. Do you ever lose fish because the crimp cuts the flouro or can the flouro slip back thru?

Thanks

I make my own leaders for fishing swimbaits for bass in toothy critter waters and have never lost a lure due to a bad crimp or slippage.

I use Seaguar Fluorocarbon leader material and barrel crimps (These to be specific https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FPIW11I/). Size the barrel crimps to the size fluoro that you want to use. I don't use a crimping tool, I just use a pair of vise-grips set to have the teeth just barely touching if at all. I'm paranoid and crimp the leaders 2-3 times. I've tested my leaders and have never had an issue.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Papa Sly on Dec 08, 2017, 04:02 PM
Same as Kayl said except I do use a good crimping tool. If you do it right you will never tie again. best article that expalins it. I use 30# seagar leader material for Pike and Bass and caught over 150 fish last year in New York with no breaks. A friend was fishing with no blades or beads and we had 3x as many flags, they are amazing.

http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/crimp_techniques.html
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: mkiburz on Dec 08, 2017, 10:29 PM
At the end of the day when your fingers are so cold that you can't move them and you fishing  in a 100ft for lakers. You will be thankful for them.    No wet finger and faster take down and set up. 
I don't buy into the equipment hype but I can tell you I've caught bluegills, perch, crappie, splake, pickerel, suckers, bullheads, etc...   I see them as a modern tip-up.   

Also if you are handy build your own.   They are easy to build.   I build mine to collapse and fit in a basket.   

I build my own
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kayl on Dec 09, 2017, 10:54 AM
Same as Kayl said except I do use a good crimping tool. If you do it right you will never tie again. best article that expalins it. I use 30# seagar leader material for Pike and Bass and caught over 150 fish last year in New York with no breaks. A friend was fishing with no blades or beads and we had 3x as many flags, they are amazing.

http://www.leadertec.com/tipsandtechniques/crimp_techniques.html

Which crimping tool do you like? I really should buy one.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JTrottaNY on Dec 09, 2017, 04:32 PM
Just found a 600yd spool of 40# yozuri hybrid line that I bought for striper season but its way too stiff...

Might be worth tying some pike rigs up
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: hairbone on Dec 10, 2017, 08:21 PM
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If you take a 5/16 or similar bolt and put under the spring ends and staple in place you get magnum performance out of the rat trap.   
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Stickhick86 on Dec 11, 2017, 05:25 AM
If you take a 5/16 or similar bolt and put under the spring ends and staple in place you get magnum performance out of the rat trap.
you can find a video of my setup on youtube. can't get a link for you on the computer I am using because it is blocked but anyways, I don't think I need any more performance out of it. Already looks like it could set hard enough to cross their eyes.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: grubberfishhunter on Dec 12, 2017, 04:46 AM
I have two jawjackers that i run with 30 inch light rods to get them to bend over and set correctly in the jacker. My question is what rod is the best rod or getting the most jack out of the jawjacker...when mine goes off it doesn't seem to snap back with very much force. to combat the softness i have put no stretch braid as my mainline and a short piece of low stretch fluorocarbon for leader. I'm wondering if this change will be enough to get more snap out of the hookset. Any more powerful rod selections would be appreciated I already know that the ugly sticks and jawjacker rods that come with them work, but they both have weaker hook sets from what i have tested.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JTrottaNY on Dec 12, 2017, 06:31 AM
Medium ugly stiks seem to be a favorite. I just bought a 2 pack of 13 fishing sonicore in medium light that appear they will do well- also spooled with braid and flouro leader
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Dec 12, 2017, 07:56 AM
I have two jawjackers that i run with 30 inch light rods to get them to bend over and set correctly in the jacker. My question is what rod is the best rod or getting the most jack out of the jawjacker...when mine goes off it doesn't seem to snap back with very much force. to combat the softness i have put no stretch braid as my mainline and a short piece of low stretch fluorocarbon for leader. I'm wondering if this change will be enough to get more snap out of the hookset. Any more powerful rod selections would be appreciated I already know that the ugly sticks and jawjacker rods that come with them work, but they both have weaker hook sets from what i have tested.
The SalmonBear style setters set strong with any style or length/action of rod.
Sorry I can't help with the JawJacker I quit using mine since I bought the SalmonBear.
Your issue is one of the many reasons I switched.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: johnsonaaro on Dec 12, 2017, 08:19 AM
i can throw a rod case in my sled with 4-6 crappie setups, 4 walleye setups, and 4 pike setups in it. 6 jawjackers in a bucket. shiners, fatheads, and crappie minnows in my bait bucket. This makes me able to quickly and easily change what my "tipups" are targeting from day to day or part of the way through a day. pretty freaking versatile if you ask me! Still in the process of fine-tuning the system but that reflects on my competence, not the quality of the product/system. cant wait to put them to work this weekend!
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Jakemanges123 on Dec 12, 2017, 08:30 AM
Needs a flag!
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 12, 2017, 09:37 AM
kasilofchrisn? I've been trying to look up a video of you Alaskan hook setter and I can't find one anywhere.  Any help?
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kayl on Dec 12, 2017, 07:46 PM
kasilofchrisn? I've been trying to look up a video of you Alaskan hook setter and I can't find one anywhere.  Any help?

Here you go:
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 12, 2017, 08:10 PM
Oh my god that seems so much more simpler than my jawjacker.  I gotta try it.  thanks for posting that.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 12, 2017, 08:22 PM
LOL..........Just bought one ;D
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kayl on Dec 12, 2017, 09:49 PM
Oh my god that seems so much more simpler than my jawjacker.  I gotta try it.  thanks for posting that.

I'm in the process of making my own. I would have bought one or two, but the shipping from Alaska kills the price!

I like the idea of being able to use a lighter action rod and setting it up for panfish. I also really like that it doesn't keep the rod under tension.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 12, 2017, 10:02 PM
You're right about the price.  It really isn't advanced tech but, the system looks simple to use in the cold and quick too.  I only bought one and it was 67 bucks all said and done.  Hey it's for ice fishin right!?  If it sets up as easily and sensitively as the video, ill be extremely happy.  Maybe Ill build one after I look at it.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Papa Sly on Dec 13, 2017, 06:42 PM
I used to have a rod tender with a set up similar however when it was windy there is nothing to keep the line on that trigger. It blows it off from front to back and side to side.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Stickhick86 on Dec 14, 2017, 05:36 AM
You're right about the price.  It really isn't advanced tech but, the system looks simple to use in the cold and quick too.  I only bought one and it was 67 bucks all said and done.  Hey it's for ice fishin right!?  If it sets up as easily and sensitively as the video, ill be extremely happy.  Maybe Ill build one after I look at it.
They are super simple to build JPG, if you look at earlier posts on this thread, I posted a photo of the one I built using a rat trap.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 14, 2017, 05:59 AM
Looks simple enough. I'll try it
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Stickhick86 on Dec 14, 2017, 06:01 AM
It works real slick. I was able to catch a couple trout with it last season. I am a bit of a tight wad and I couldn't justify spending close to 70 bucks on one rig that I could make for about 10 bucks
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Stickhick86 on Dec 14, 2017, 06:37 AM
Also, here is the link for the youtube video of me testing it before I took it on the ice.

Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 14, 2017, 07:23 AM
Awesome
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: RegsizeRuss on Dec 14, 2017, 07:58 AM
I build a similar device to use for trout. It has nearly eliminated deeply-hooked fish for me! Nothing is worse than sending a short fish back to certain death, bleeding from damaged gills or gut. Having the hook set immediately solves the problem.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: jsmex on Dec 14, 2017, 11:57 AM
I prefer the Automatic Fisherman, seems more sturdy. I fish perch a lot, poke lots of holes. It's nice to leave a few set ups in the holes to see when the schools go through, then pound them with a traditional rod til the bite stops. 
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 14, 2017, 07:40 PM
So let me ask something...on the akb or any other, why position the openface up and not down? Doesn't make sense to me.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kasilofchrisn on Dec 14, 2017, 10:19 PM
So let me ask something...on the akb or any other, why position the openface up and not down? Doesn't make sense to me.
On my AK SalmonBear's I can position mine however I like.
Though in the set position the rod may not always rest in the rod notch in the base due to the reel sitting on the base.
It hasn't effected the functionality of the device to run it either way.
I'm guessing for video purposes it looks good to have the rod in the holder with the rod resting in the molded in notch.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 15, 2017, 06:52 AM
So if it were positioned normally, the bail would hit the ground when the device is charges?
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Stickhick86 on Dec 15, 2017, 06:58 AM
JPG, that was the problem I ran into with my design, I wanted to keep is small and compact. To have my reel facing downward, I would have had to use a longer piece of pvc to hold it. I shortened it and spun it around. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 15, 2017, 07:32 AM
Copy that.  Thanks
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 15, 2017, 07:35 AM
The whole ak unit does look pretty long as well.  Hopefully it's more compact than it looks. Either way. If it works better/easier than my others I'll make room for it. ;D
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: Stickhick86 on Dec 15, 2017, 07:37 AM
Nothing wrong with that at all
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: lony laker on Dec 15, 2017, 11:41 AM
got 3 jawjackers  and love them
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: monkeyman2269 on Dec 16, 2017, 11:09 AM
These came out this year http://www.basspro.com/shop/en/ht-enterprises-hookmaster-hookset-system
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JTrottaNY on Dec 16, 2017, 06:20 PM
I wonder how far that flag flys when a good heavy rod snaps up...?
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 18, 2017, 04:40 PM
Kayl, got the asb today.  The hook where the line goes is super sharp and the bend where the line would rub is chaffed.  I'll have to take some sand paper to it.  Trigger seems sensitive also.  If I want to set it light for pannies, it could go off.  Guess I just gotta screw with it.  Let me know what you think about setting the sensitivity.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: kayl on Dec 18, 2017, 07:21 PM
Kayl, got the asb today.  The hook where the line goes is super sharp and the bend where the line would rub is chaffed.  I'll have to take some sand paper to it.  Trigger seems sensitive also.  If I want to set it light for pannies, it could go off.  Guess I just gotta screw with it.  Let me know what you think about setting the sensitivity.

I'm still finishing mine up. I haven't sat down and worked on it for more than 5 minutes at a time...kids keep you busy. The rat trap trigger that I'm using was also a little sharp; I'm taking some brasso/metal polish to it.  Otherwise I'll use a wire coat hanger and polish that up. I figure the smoother the better, no?
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 18, 2017, 07:35 PM
I agree about the smoothness.  I think it's gonna be tricky finding that sweet spot for light bites without it going off prematurely.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: bziel1 on Dec 19, 2017, 05:59 AM
I have made several different versions. One was junk two were pretty decent. Here is the one I like best and is very easy to make. Cost $3.. can’t seem to upload video... made with house mouse trap and wire rod holder.. message me if you want the video
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: JPG on Dec 20, 2017, 01:02 AM
Kayl...smooth is good. Been thinking about the one I bought. It really is easy to set. After I polish the trigger it'll be fine for my line. My only ossue I think will be setting it for a sensitive bite. It gets to a point where it wants to just go. Idk if I should modify the hook or not. If I bend it wrong, it could be even harder to set.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: bigredonice on Dec 20, 2017, 11:24 AM
After seeing some really interesting results with JawJackers the last few years, I made a few of my own last year...they worked pretty well, and I was actually able to catch fallfish on them (anyone that fishes tipups around fallfish knows how tough this is)...but they weren't always working correctly.   So this year, I ponied up, got 5 Jawjackers on sale from dicks.com.   I tried those HT ones, and I was not impressed.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: monkeyman2269 on Dec 20, 2017, 12:18 PM
The ht board ones what didn't you like.
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: bigredonice on Dec 20, 2017, 12:44 PM
The ht board ones what didn't you like.

the way the rod holder is designed, when the device trips and the rod unloads, it sometimes wants to throw itself right off the device...which when there is a large, hooked fish on the other end, and you are a few feet away, can lead to some harrowing moments.   
Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: monkeyman2269 on Dec 25, 2017, 12:16 PM
Can't you modify it a little
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Post by: fisher277d on Dec 25, 2017, 10:10 PM
I have 7 I made and love them, they are my go to for finicky trout
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Title: Re: Jawjacker, is it worth buying?
Post by: monkeyman2269 on Dec 25, 2017, 11:03 PM
Can you pm me plans
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Post by: bigredonice on Dec 27, 2017, 03:31 PM
Can't you modify it a little

I did by wrapping rubber bands around the reel handle holding it down, but thats one more thing to worry about when there is a fish on.