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thank you guys for all the replies and info . I've lost two wallies this year at the hole because i fish pan fish with 2# test line . saw this line at 6* is about 2# dia.. I think i'm going to try this . thank you all again
Yeah, that way the spool will be way underfilled ... there are 2 reasons for the mono backer, for one as a "filler" since fireline is so thin, and secondly to keep from spinning. Electrical tape only addresses the first, not the latter. Someone also mentioned using "high quality" line as a backer like AN40 ... why I do not know. If you get down past 125 yds of fireline to the backer ... you are no doubt in over your head and are getting spanked. I don't think Silver Thread will help! Use the cheap stuff for a backer ... you'll never get down that far, if you do you are screwed anyway!
Yeah, that way the spool will be way underfilled ... there are 2 reasons for the mono backer, for one as a "filler" since fireline is so thin, and secondly to keep from spinning. Electrical tape only addresses the first, not the latter. Someone also mentioned using "high quality" line as a backer like AN40 ... why I do not know. If you get down past 125 yds of fireline to the backer ... you are no doubt in over your head and are getting spanked. I don't think Silver Thread will help! Use the cheap stuff for a backer ... you'll never get down that far, if you do you are screwed anyway! I normally use between 50 and 100 feet of Fireline backed by a good quality copolymer line like Silver Thread AN-40 or other low memory lines.
I don't know maybe I am silly. I use the Fire Ice Line as a leader. Thats all. I use a Dacron Poly line that you would call "Backing." If you ever get a big fish. I mean a big one, you have all you can do to keep the line from getting cut or frayed by the edges of the hole you drilled. When we see a snap come and you have the leader in your hand you are almost there. I guess I don't fish the way some of you do. We jig and use tip up's or downs all with the leader. I never spool a reel with Fire Line. I still really don't understand what you are doing, and don't really care. Fire Line is awesome leader material. Thin and really strong. If you fish you jnow that keeping your bait alive is really important if you are targeting Trout and LL Salmon. Small hooks and very light leaders are key. All this talk about coils and wave's aint going get it. WE jig in 70-80 feet for Lakers. If you are using the Fire line with no weight, you have a substantial jig. If you are claiming to use small jigs w/o some extra weight, You my friend have never worked the deeper waters. Have you ever heard of "Tungsten jigs" ? There's more to getting a small jig down into deep water than just the weight of the jig. I've fished 160 feet of water for lakers using a 1/16th oz jig and it got to the bottom in a flash. Come out to Braddocks Bay Saturday and I'll show you the set up I use. Again. I never, ever shop at Gander or BPS. These guys have never really fished and they are all beside themselves with talent. The last thing I want is advice from them. I say again Jerk Clerks making $7.50 an hour are not the guys to get advice from.I know several Gander Mountain employees that are pro and semi pro tournament fishermen ! I'm sure you've never talked to any of them You will get better advise asking here than you ever would at one of the Big Box stores. Too many people here use the word "Best" too many times. Would you consider the answer that a mora auger is the best out there to be good advice ? I've seen it several times over the years. Those posts are from people who've never spun a Nils Master....or even Strikemaster Lazer for that matter They know WHAT THEY KNOW and preach it as gospel
Yup people preach what they know. I read your preaching No preaching. Just suggestions based on experiences that I've had and I am pretty convinced that this thread is a waste of time. You continue to post with your techniques. Great. Maybe someone with little or no experience will listen. You may be that guy And no Tournament Fisherman I know or I have met works at Gander or Bass Pro. Have you ever been to Gander in Henrietta or Cicero NY ? Or Bass Pro in Auburn ? Good start right there Maybe they work there, but really how much could you possibly make at Gander 25K a year on a good year? So what you're saying is that if they don't make a ton of money that they can't possibly be very good fishermen ? Also, who says they're in it for the money ? Some people work in the field that they like because of the enjoyment it gives them. Try it sometime And it's interesting you claim to be fishing 160' on ice? I honestly don't know where. Maybe the Northwest Territories? Close. Lake of the Woods, Crow Lake, and Whitefish Bay in NW OntarioI have no intrest in seeing your set up. Well come out and say hello and have a beer, coffee or whatever is cooking on the grill I have my own. It works great for me. And BTW Mora drills are awesome. You have to keep the blades like razors. Might as well quit fishing a spend all winter sharpening your blades then Most folks can't do that or just don't. Correct ! We own Nils Master augers Do you sharpen the Blades at Gander? Or send them out. Read above Lets see the little Bait shop down the way has a Mora blade fixture and The owner Danny will sharpen them while you wait. You won't get service like that at the BIG BOX. Never. That's great ! It's good to see that someone is looking out for those who still use antique augers
Just to let you know Mr. Capp, your comment about people working in big box stores deosn't offend me. I deal with ignorant people like yourself every day that I work. Like I said before, I work at Gander Mountain part time... not that it makes a difference. I am a full time student. I went back to school after taking many years off. I also happen to fish more hours than I work at Gander Mountain. I have been fishing for over 20 years. It's my passion and it's what I do. I also happen to be a tournament angler during the summer, when I am not in school. I started working at a place that I can relate to, to help out fellow anglers and to get beginners and young people more involved in our sport. I even founded a fishing club at the college for the same reason. I also happen to belong to other clubs and organizations locally that are related to fishing, and participate in community service to help make our local fisheries healthier for us and for our children. Now I know this is another somewhat "lengthy dissertation" but I simplized it for you this time and didn't use any big words other than ignorant. So, unlike my other post maybe someone like yourself can understand what I'm trying to say here (since my last description was too complicated for you). I am an angler ( a person who participates in the act of fishing) who fishes for multi-species, with multi-techniques 2-5 days a week, every month out of the year. So, because I recently started working part time at Gander Mountain, and that I don't make alot of money there, that automatically erases all of the prior knowledge and current involvement that I have in the sport of fishing? Can anyone else explain Mr. Capps logic here, because I am a little lost.
Save your breath. This guy (hAndyCrapP)just likes to muck up every thread in the Shanty.
I use fireline on my jigging rods. You can't beat the feel. It has no stretch and you can feel everything. I do use a mono backer, but tape might work well. I use 2lb and don't use a mono leader. It doesn't seem to spook fish. The fireline ice is white, but is virtually invisible under water.
What pimplejigger said was actually quite clear and very true (whether or not he works at a big store or not) a job is a job my friend. The "waves" he is referring to would be the coils from is being spooled on a spinning reel. And yes if your jg/bait isnt heavy enough to straighten it out, then of course you wont be feeling many of the light bites. I dont understand why people have to try and bash someone personally just because THEY DONT understand what someone is trying to say.
