IceShanty.com's Ice Fishing Community
Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Ice Shack Tips => Topic started by: Fire_Ice on Jan 10, 2014, 08:47 AM
-
For a few years I have been researching different fish house plans on Iceshanty and I finally decided to pull the trigger during this past Christmas break. The fish house needed to fit on my 5x14 trailer and be light enough to pull with my King Quad 500 (maybe push around by hand). I was extremely nervous to build the fish and find out that it would be too heavy, but after much planning and calculating the building materials weight, I decided that I wasted enough time and decided to build it.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0373_zpsaae02906.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0373_zpsaae02906.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0371_zps08259a3a.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0371_zps08259a3a.jpg.html)
-
The beginning using a CAD program.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/FishHouseCAD2_zps50d0a1b0.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/FishHouseCAD2_zps50d0a1b0.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/FishHouseCAD_zps8337ad59.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/FishHouseCAD_zps8337ad59.jpg.html)
-
Framing
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0317_zps62096b1a.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0317_zps62096b1a.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0318_zpsdcb97d09.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0318_zpsdcb97d09.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0319_zpsac2bd1d0.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0319_zpsac2bd1d0.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0320_zps13c9e9a4.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0320_zps13c9e9a4.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0334_zps4fd4aa45.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0334_zps4fd4aa45.jpg.html)
-
Once the walls went up I decided to remove the hinges on the hatch covers. I had found a camper door and thought it was going to be awesome, but we ran into problems and decided to build doors. The ATV just fits through. Next step was house wrap and siding.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0334_zps4fd4aa45.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0334_zps4fd4aa45.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0353_zps32c8840c.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0353_zps32c8840c.jpg.html)
I built the windows out of vinyl trim and acrylic sheeting. I was hoping for a frost free window. What I found out once we moved the fish house outside was that moisture got trapped in between the two panes and created a little haze. Hopefully it dissipates.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0357_zpsb098e34f.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0357_zpsb098e34f.jpg.html)
-
At the last minute we decided to put a bump out on the side of the fish house for the heater. After working in the fish house last night (17 degrees F), the bump out was a good decision.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0364_zps8a4ac961.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0364_zps8a4ac961.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0368_zps6fb7d1ce.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0368_zps6fb7d1ce.jpg.html)
I did not like how wavy trim above the doors turned out so we rehung it.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0369_zps61ec3140.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0369_zps61ec3140.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0371_zps08259a3a.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0371_zps08259a3a.jpg.html)
-
As things came together, I realized that the I needed to build brackets for towing. The brackets were then installed to the front and back curve.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0372_zps7e5ab806.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0372_zps7e5ab806.jpg.html)
We painted the curves and attached a round vent to the front wall and a small slider window in one of the doors. I received some plastic from the back of a beet truck from a friend and lined the bottom of the fish house hoping it will slide well on the snow and ice.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0373_zpsaae02906.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0373_zpsaae02906.jpg.html)
-
that is a great looking shack. very well thought out. what do you figure the final weight will be of your shanty?
-
The last step involved insulating the inside with 1/2" rigid foam and scrape aluminum sheeting around the bump out for a heat reflector. I hesitated putting in the computer fans until I tested them out last night. The temp at the floor was around 40 degrees constantly for about an hour. I temporarily installed the fans and let them run for a while. The temp on the floor raised to 50 degrees. I guess they found a permanent home. I placed two fans in the fish house and a light strip above each window. Each light and fan has its own switch.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0384_zps5400dea2.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/IMG_0384_zps5400dea2.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/0a2a659d-e934-4824-8697-7c10da1f68bd_zps5e3c3205.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/0a2a659d-e934-4824-8697-7c10da1f68bd_zps5e3c3205.jpg.html)
-
As always, there are things that I would like to change, but I am really happy how the fish house turned out. I usually overbuild, so it was difficult to try and put the whole fish house together with weight in mind. The floor frame is constructed out of 2x3s and 3/4" plywood. The walls are constructed out of 2x2s ripped from 2x4s (cheaper). I was really excited to pull the house outside. At first it was really heavy pulling it off the dry warm concrete, but the second we hit the packed snow and ice it slid fairly well with two men. I would not want to drag it very far though. It was loaded on my trailer with a snatch block pulley on the front of the trailer and my ATV winch. I just drove the ATV perpendicular to the trailer and the fish house pulled up easily. Once we got home and just for fun, two of us pulled it off the trailer. Then we actually were able to pull it back up the trailer. That relieved a lot of my stress. The last test came as we hooked it up to the ATV with a rope and I pulled it all around the yard. PERFECT! I have not gone up to the elevator to weigh everything yet. I am also happy to report that I can push it sideways about a foot so drilling holes can be done outside.
-
nice shanty
-
Looks great. I have been contemplating something like that for years. Would really like to find out what it weighs in at and aslo if you don't mind me asking haow much do you think you have into it?
-
Thank you. I weighed it last night and was shocked. 640lbs. Wow! This weight is with all my gear and I suppose with the extra materials like brackets. It is what it is but I love it!
-
Going through receipts, they total $340.
-
Almost a dollar a pound. Very nice build. I am going to save it for ideas.
-
Good job!
-
Took the fish house to the lake and back this weekend. Love having a permanent and it towed around the lake great. It was awesome leaving everything out and ready for the next stop. We drilled the holes outside and then pushed the fish house over the holes. I do need some advice for the hatch covers. They lift up while being pulled on the ice, which was a surprise. I was thinking about making the six covers into two, but I cannot think of a simple way to secure the hatches. (Two of the holes are for the fish finders, we only fish four holes). I also wonder if I should put a 2x4 laid flat on each side as a skid to give a little clearance. The house pulled so well on the ice I am not sure if the skid would be a good idea or not. We like not having too much distance from the ice to the fish house. Thoughts?
-
Super simple way to secure the hatches would be to nail or screw a small piece of wood to the floor right next to each hole, maybe 1" x 4", then just rotate it across the hatch when under way. If you want, could even do one on each side of a hole for extra security. Rotate off the hatch when its time to start slayin' em!
Moonman
-
Don't I feel like an idiot. Just looked at your pics again and realized what I suggested was the method you were using....Wasn't it Rosanne Rosana Dana form the golden days of Saturday Night Live who used to say 'Nevermind'...
Moonman.
-
I really like that vent. Where did you get it?
-
I would use kitchen cabinet magnetic latch really nice job
-
Moonman, I appreciate the help, but your not an idiot. I did take those wood turn latches off thinking that it would be tough to shovel if I had to drill inside. I might consider making ones out of metal so they are thinner.
Bobberdown, the vent came from the store where you "Save Big Money when you Shop at ....." I found it by the dryer vents. It works awesome! The vent just screws in or out easily.
jt snipe, Do you think the magnetic latches would be strong enough to keep snow out and stop the hatch from vibrating?
-
Excellent build! Thanks for sharing! :tipup:
-
Thanks for sharing. Always fun to see what others are doing/planning.
Looks like a comfortable, warm shack.
MD
-
Just some knowledge for you thermopane windows are pressurized with argon so they don't fog over it will let light in but odds are it will always fog over unless it's warm out then you may stand a chance at a clear window. I'm thinking about building something permanent too going to bum and idea or two from you!!
-
Howdy all. Took out the shelf and installed a small plywood cabinet in the corner with a lock on it. I had problems with items staying on the shelf during transportation. This way it may be a mess in the cabinet, but at least everything will stay put. I also re-installed the hinges on the hatch covers with a metal bar to stop the hatch from opening.
Sunday was a very expensive day with a few things falling on the floor and then out a fish hatch while being towed. One Leatherman $70, one small 12 volt battery $20, 4 walleyes Priceless.
-
Use barrel locks on the covers. Im going to build one like yours but im gonna use plastic hole covers and sleeves when I do build it.
-
Does the snow pile up on the cross braces when pulling in the snow? Or is it not you bad of an issue being so low
-
Some snow built up in the holes but I did not notice a pulling difference. I have the plastic covering the entire bottom of the floor except where I cut out for the holes.
-
What kind of plastic covering did you use ? I've been looking into building something like this
-
That's a nice shack you built, good luck with it.
-
Well done.
-
Look great!
-
The plastic came from a beet truck liner. I believe it is the UHMW or HMW not sure. Tough as nails.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo3_zps9b576b11-1.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo3_zps9b576b11-1.jpg.html)
-
Update on the cabinet and hatch cover mods. Worked awesomely!!! Didn't lose one item this weekend! Haha. We had a great time fishing and stayed extremely warm. The ice house stayed around 70 degrees with both fans running all day. If I turned the fans off, the ceiling would warm up to 82 degrees. Outside temp was around 16 degrees. As Phil would say "Happy Happy Happy."
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/b0164be1-8fe5-4236-89c7-0383f024b43c_zpsafa4af2b.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/b0164be1-8fe5-4236-89c7-0383f024b43c_zpsafa4af2b.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo2_zps6c0eaa50-1.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo2_zps6c0eaa50-1.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo1_zps78085cca-1.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo1_zps78085cca-1.jpg.html)
-
looks like you are getting to use it that is great
-
Nice shelter!
-
The house has been working well. All in all I could not be happier. The ATV pulls it wherever we need to go and loading it is a breeze. Of course, deep snow would be a problem with the ATV, but that is what buddies with snowmobiles are for! The best part is that I marked all the holes on the wall outside. This way we drill the holes and push the house over once we have shoveled.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo1_zps1d703e1d.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo1_zps1d703e1d.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo2_zps8ee2959d.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo2_zps8ee2959d.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo3_zpsc4d42503.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/Permanent%20Portable%20Fish%20House/photo3_zpsc4d42503.jpg.html)
-
How big are your holes in the floor? Sorry if I missed it somewhere in your post.
-
Mackdog75, the holes are 10" x 10". I wanted to be able to fish a 10" hole if the opportunity arose.
-
This came out really nicely, looks like you are putting it to good use! :tipup:
-
Im stealing your fish house designs and building my own. I really like this
-
awesome job!
-
Thanks for the compliments. I am running into a HUGE problem. I cannot stop thinking about what I can tweak!!!!!!!!
My buddy heater has lost its home in the fish house. It takes to long for the heat to warm everything up so I am bringing my 11lb tank with a sunflower heater. A test has shown that the fish house has now become a sweat house. SWEET! A side benefit from the change is that I don't need a hose and I can move the heater if three people go fishing.
I have been running into issues with my doors. If the house is not level the back wall moves from side to side binding the doors so I added 1/2" plywood to the frame work inside. I glued and screwed it. Problem solved. I also put a 2"x3" on the floor under the doors so that the ice build up on on the back curve does not stop the doors from getting stuck. The last item I changed was the door hinges. I just did not have enough room to drive the atv in without hitting the door frame so I made a double hinge. Problem solved. Hopefully this is the last change.
-
Careful of using the sunflower in an enclosed space!
-
Thanks for the heads up Clear_Ice. The doors are drafty enough and I also have a vent in the front that is always open.
-
I am back with an update on the fish house. I opened it up a few days ago and I almost cried. The fish house has been leaking since the spring. Mold was on everything. I guess using the paneling and house wrap was a failure. Deep down as I was building the roof, I knew it was going to be a problem. The stupid thing it that I knew better. If someone is using the idea, I would pitch the roof so rain cannot get trapped.
Last night I tore the roof off and cut rafters out of 2x4's with a 1/2" drop from the center to each end. I will be installing 3/8" plywood and a rubber roof. The overall ceiling height will be lower, but I am not that tall to begin with. I will add pics at another time.
-
that sucks about the water damage
-
Keep the roof as is and add the rubber over what is there. :tipup:
-
Spray foam and a couple tubes of roofing tar are your friend when it comes to flat roofs
-
It can be made water tight. Zack Shacks have the same type of roof setup. I don't think they would still be in business if they leaked like that.
I'm going to do something similar, run the deck the long way and then put foam gaskets between the deck and corner trim. Then fill it up with roofing caulk.
-
The design was copied from the Zack Shacks. Anyways, a rubber roof was put on and the problem is not a problem any longer.
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/photo1_zps53463871.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/photo1_zps53463871.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/37c179dc-0520-43c8-a566-c639bfc66fc9_zpsbb0a70b0.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/37c179dc-0520-43c8-a566-c639bfc66fc9_zpsbb0a70b0.jpg.html)
(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab163/darpotter14/photo2_zps888d1fb4.jpg) (http://s860.photobucket.com/user/darpotter14/media/photo2_zps888d1fb4.jpg.html)
-
I would strongly advise against building the roof the way I did. Save yourself the headache and put on rubber unless you are going to put a serious pitch on the roof.
-
For sure rubber is the way to go. a little pricey at first but in the long run it will save you a lot of headaches.
-
Terrible news, at least you got it found and fixed before there is any ice. Very good looking shack.
-
So where did you get the big rubber sheet?
-
The big box store in Grand Forks sells it in 10x20 rolls. I had a friend that got mine from. 6x9 is all I needed. I checked in there today and everything is as dry as a bone. I really wish I would have done this in the first place. Live and Learn.
-
Hi
I'm building a bob house and was going to use 2x6 for floor joist. By what you have I think that may be over kill. I'm putting them 24" oc with 3/4" plywood decking, my house is only 4'x6' ,so I can slide it in the bed of my truck. how are your 2x3 holding up, any weak spots. I'd like to use 2x4. This is my first house build.
-
Maisy22 I would have used 2x2's, but since my ATV rides in it on the way to the lake I wanted more support. 2x4's would be plenty strong combined with 3/4 plywood. I did build my floor 16" on center though.
-
Hit the hard water yesterday. We found 8" on the small lakes and 4" on Stump Lake. We used my Clam Bigfoot and really enjoyed the time. I just cannot wait to get the shack out.
-
Excellent thread and many great ideas. Hope you continue to keep us filled in on your adventures. Your house turned out very nice! :thumbsup:
WS
-
Thank You Whopper Stopper. Thinking I need to add another cabinet.
-
How did you do the bottom? Do u have any pictures of what the bottoms looks like?
-
The floor was built with 2x2's and 1-1/2" rigid foam. I used 1/2" plywood on the top and bottom. Painted it all and then used 1/8 poly that is used in semi trailers. I do not have any pics. Ended up selling it to some people that live on a lake. One really dry year it was hard to get on and off the trailer. Needed snow pack.
-
I wish I could see the pictures
-
Not sure how to fix that.
-
Upload the pics on a new site ;)
I want to build a 5x8 and would love to see what ya did...And your 2 cents on what you would revise.
-
There's a link at the bottom of where you comment on posts that says add image to post, it will take you right to your pictures on your computer, double click on a pic, and it will post it. You may have to resize it.