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Title: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 02, 2012, 11:14 PM
Any of you working thru this and retained your love of the sport? Give me a shoutout

First view this video thread of Stewart Macquillan!  First paraplegic to fly a helicopter thru his invention - Aeroleg
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/527164/first_paraplegic_flies_helicopter/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/527164/first_paraplegic_flies_helicopter/)

Today, I met Stewart a former UK Military pilot who had his back broken in an aviation accident & lost use of his legs.  He's 52, was invited by former President Bush to volunteer (No pay) his time to train disabled vets in US  He gets them into gliders @ USAF site.  He also helps other vets into helicopters so they return to flying and have opportunity for employment doing what they love.  As the video shows, he was the 1st to invent devices to allow himself & other disabled persons to fly a helicopter!

I got on the ice around 1pm & he was moving in his wheelchair to new holes (He uses ski poles and propels himself
across the ice  If there's snow he shovels ahead of himself)  He got to his spot, dropped out of the chair to the ice &
started making a ruckus opening holes WITH THE STRAIGHT END OF A PRY BAR because he does not have height to
operate Std auger.  Did I mention 30x guys were watching him doing this 4x times during the day & never offered to
help.  C'mon, really?  Let me tell you, these guys will appreciate & accept help... so get er done if you come across 'em!

I immediately went over to him w/the gas auger & offered help - He was humbled, but thankfully accepted help.  I
then asked him to allow me to lead him & take his gear to my honey hole   We did & he caught his 1st trout (& then
many more the next 4 hrs)  It was also the 1st fish of the day after 7 hours of not giving up trying! TRUE GRIT!!

He related today was his 1st time ice fishing so he showed up b4 sunrise so as not to embarrass himself getting on the
ice w/his wheelchair and ski poles.  He then used a cat's paw/pry bar to open other's old holes  He pulled off his gloves
to take off fish from the hook & his hands were bruised from the force(passion) he applied in order to open holes.

UPDATE 1/13/2012
Help me with a goal - this man lives on his pension only & needs technology to do more w/less effort.
I will to help him obtain the following (I will pay for it and/or seek donations to give it away to him):
    21V DRILL INFO - OLD MILWAUKEE is working thru Wounded Warriors Project to get this donation done!
    AUGER ADAPTER + SHORT SHAFT INFO - HT ENTERPRISES is donating this!
    SKIS RIGGED TO WHEELCHAIR - Ice Shanty Members are really stepping up to the plate on this one!
    FLIP OVER STYLE TENT- STILL REMAINS AN UNKNOWN???
 
    Share any other known inventions for ice fishing w/disabilities?

   
Thanks guys, I believe something good is about to happen to a good man  I am meeting up w/him again on Wed.
and want to encourage him w/the good news that hardwater brothers are there for him. 
Are you up for this?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: candyok on Jan 02, 2012, 11:35 PM
  I don't have any good ideas, but if I can help you out with a little cash let me know. We need to help all vets.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 02, 2012, 11:53 PM
  I don't have any good ideas, but if I can help you out with a little cash let me know. We need to help all vets.

Absolutely agree w/your position & thanks for the offer brother; in my book that speaks VERY highly for who you are!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: thesleddinfisher on Jan 02, 2012, 11:56 PM
For an auger I would say find an old spoon auger and chop it down to the desired height and machine it to fit a drill, once a sharp spoon gets started it goes through good.

Maybe we should start a charity and get him one of these
http://www.trackwheelchair.com/ (http://www.trackwheelchair.com/)
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 12:01 AM
For an auger I would say find an old spoon auger and chop it down to the desired height and machine it to fit a drill, once a sharp spoon gets started it goes through good.

Maybe we should start a charity and get him one of these
http://www.trackwheelchair.com/ (http://www.trackwheelchair.com/)

Thx, but remember using them in the 60s & 70s and always had to stoop to clean ice out of hole so auger could
keep cutting at its best performance level
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: thesleddinfisher on Jan 03, 2012, 12:02 AM
Maybe with some help you could find a old fan-cooled ski-doo w/reverse. Grampas old nordic is awesome. If he could get on the seat sidsaddle you could mount milk cartons or boxes on the opposite runningboard so he could have all his gear within arms reach. Even If you could just find someone with the sled and convince him to let him borrow it once in awhile.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: thesleddinfisher on Jan 03, 2012, 12:04 AM
Thx, but remember using them in the 60s & 70s and always had to stoop to clean ice out of hole so auger could
keep cutting at its best performance level

must be different somehow, cause my spoon auger once you get started it goes through easy, ice shavings just climb up the spoon and gives you a snowcone when you're through
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 12:06 AM
must be different somehow, cause my spoon auger once you get started it goes through easy, ice shavings just climb up the spoon and gives you a snowcone when you're through

good to know, had an old Mora Steel spoon and that's how it behaved despite being laser sharp
What brand/model/diameter spoon did u use?  I have access to machine shop equip from a buddy
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: IceBalls on Jan 03, 2012, 12:10 AM
I think your idea of using a 21V or 18V hand drill is the best for this situation.  Just have to cut down a manual Lazer auger and weld on a fitting that mates with the drill........ should be pretty easy.  How about cutting out the side panel of a standard flip over so your buddy could just roll his chair into the sled and flip the top?

Come on guys...... Ice Fishermen are the craftiest people alive when it comes to designing gear for our sport..... I'm sure lots of you wsill have ideas that will make life easier for this guy!!!    Let's show him that we are ALL BROTHERS ON THE ICE !!!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: 641cfrank on Jan 03, 2012, 12:11 AM
Maybe we should start a charity and get him one of these
http://www.trackwheelchair.com/ (http://www.trackwheelchair.com/)

Thats a cool idea!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 12:11 AM
For an auger I would say find an old spoon auger and chop it down to the desired height and machine it to fit a drill, once a sharp spoon gets started it goes through good.

Maybe we should start a charity and get him one of these
http://www.trackwheelchair.com/ (http://www.trackwheelchair.com/)

 :clap: :thumbsup: :clap: :thumbsup:  OUTSTANDING!   
Appreciate the post and will contact them in AM for details
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: nodakbassmaster on Jan 03, 2012, 12:12 AM
where are you or this at?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 12:16 AM
Thats a cool idea!

He'd use it every chance he was not in the air or in a local school donating time to encourage others with disabilities
or educating the enabled about disabilities

Get enough brothers willing to get this done and I will set it up with a local bank
and next I'd post their contact information so you work w/them & it goes direct to an account
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 12:18 AM
where are you or this at?

SOUTH OF DENVER, CO
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 12:22 AM
how do you post pics here?  I have a pic from my time today with Stewart on the ice
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: thesleddinfisher on Jan 03, 2012, 12:23 AM
good to know, had an old Mora Steel spoon and that's how it behaved despite being laser sharp
What brand/model/diameter spoon did u use?  I have access to machine shop equip from a buddy

It's 6" diameter and is blue w/ a red handle is all I can tell you off the top of my head... I'll go out and take better pictures of it in the morning.
(http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx326/sabre255/Phone%20pics/2011-12-10103253.jpg)
(http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx326/sabre255/Phone%20pics/2012-01-01075439.jpg)
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: thesleddinfisher on Jan 03, 2012, 12:24 AM
read this for posting pics
http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=31022.0 (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=31022.0)
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 12:31 AM
read this for posting pics
http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=31022.0 (http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=31022.0)

Thanks for the info

PS
 Just sent Johnny my personal info in an email to get in contact and obtain info on his track wheelchairs
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 12:49 AM
Here's Stewart in action - he transfers from wheelchair to a canvas style lawn chair he sits in
Since he can't feel his feet or legs and wants to protect his feet from the cold, he inserts 2x
hand warmers into each boot to cover the length of the foot!   LOL, keep em if you got em!

never complained once about moving that wheelchair across uneven ice with ski poles...

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb334/neveruminda/IMAG0344.jpg)
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Buck1985 on Jan 03, 2012, 01:01 AM
 Yeah, let's see what we can get rolling here!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Mich Nimrod on Jan 03, 2012, 04:17 AM
I wish I had some ideas but I suck at modifying/inventing.  Although that is why I have friends who are good at these things.   I will check with them and let you know. 

Thank you for helping this man out, we need to do everything we can for our Veterans. 
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: kb on Jan 03, 2012, 04:32 AM
Definitely the track chair, if not a modified electric chair/scooter with screws in solid rubber tires to aid in traction. 
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 07:40 AM
I think your idea of using a 21V or 18V hand drill is the best for this situation.  Just have to cut down a manual Lazer auger and weld on a fitting that mates with the drill........ should be pretty easy.  How about cutting out the side panel of a standard flip over so your buddy could just roll his chair into the sled and flip the top?

Come on guys...... Ice Fishermen are the craftiest people alive when it comes to designing gear for our sport..... I'm sure lots of you wsill have ideas that will make life easier for this guy!!!    Let's show him that we are ALL BROTHERS ON THE ICE !!!

Thx for the thoughts, I'm tracking with you on this one

I own a popup  But, I've seen the Frabill's etc and thought I'd get him over to another guy's unit tomorrow when
we reconnect & see if he can transfer from his wheelchair to the seats inside the Frabill, Clam, etc. 

2x questions
  #1 If you do a cutout section (vs latched/fold down) in one area for a wheelchair to roll back into - would the units
        structural integrity be compromised   I noticed they're a hard shell bottom
  #2 With that opening, wouldn't it be a magnet for gathering snow and/or slush when being pullled?
         Maybe a cut out section that folds down? Any Flip Up owners who can comment?

Just asking...
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 08:13 AM
spoke with Nils  out in VT - great folks

Coming out in 2012/13 fishing season with a 6" wide, 2' long Auger for 18v or Higher Cordless Drills
They will also work on case-by-case basis with legit disabled veterans to lend a hand!  Nice!

Checked on their handsaw option as well and learned it requires a 3" wide pilot hole to get it started - dang
not sure I've seen any bits that wide?  You guys got ideas on that one?  The saw is about $130 per Nils
The call taker stated these take minimal effort to use, in his words -  let it do the job by just moving it up and
down
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 08:30 AM
spoke with Strikemaster - they have nothing for cordless outside of the replacement auger shaft & then you modify at your own risk per customer service who does not recommend tweaking w/their products (HA!  better get over that one!).   Left message w/their suggestion line to see what they could come up with for a disabled vet!  C'mon, get er done!

Saw an adapter for the shaft to slip onto cordless drill (on Cabela's), but the reviews were pretty bad about it coming loose
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: harrops26 on Jan 03, 2012, 08:46 AM
A Nils would be the best choice. It is the most effortless hand auger to use. If someone could cut it short and and weld one of the cordless drill adapters. Maybe someone would be able create some short extensions that he could attach as he drilled to get through deeper ice. I think the important thing is that the auger is a Nils
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 09:06 AM
A Nils would be the best choice. It is the most effortless hand auger to use. If someone could cut it short and and weld one of the cordless drill adapters. Maybe someone would be able create some short extensions that he could attach as he drilled to get through deeper ice. I think the important thing is that the auger is a Nils

x2 H26 - good friend in N.E. has one and believes thru experience it's the best out there
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: GrizlyGarou on Jan 03, 2012, 09:11 AM
Thx for the thoughts, I'm tracking with you on this one

I own a popup  But, I've seen the Frabill's etc and thought I'd get him over to another guy's unit tomorrow when
we reconnect & see if he can transfer from his wheelchair to the seats inside the Frabill, Clam, etc. 

2x questions
  #1 If you do a cutout section (vs latched/fold down) in one area for a wheelchair to roll back into - would the units
        structural integrity be compromised   I noticed they're a hard shell bottom
  #2 With that opening, wouldn't it be a magnet for gathering snow and/or slush when being pullled?
         Maybe a cut out section that folds down? Any Flip Up owners who can comment?

Just asking...

Instead of modifying a flip over sled and having another thing to haul around, why not make a flip over tent for his wheelchair? Just go where he wants, grab his drill, cut his hole, then flip the tent over. A little buddy heater would warm it up real nice in there. A couple rod holders mounted to the sides of the front of the wheelchair, maybe some kind of mount for a flasher somewhere. The only problem would be getting the skirt down to the ice on the back and sides without it dragging during transport.

If I was to modify a flip over to get a wheelchair in, I'd cut the notch out from the back Instead of the side and put a hinge on to keep snow out.

Does the guy like dogs? There's all kinds of places that do service dogs. They can pull stuff, and who doesn't need a dog to hang out with?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 09:56 AM
Instead of modifying a flip over sled and having another thing to haul around, why not make a flip over tent for his wheelchair? Just go where he wants, grab his drill, cut his hole, then flip the tent over. A little buddy heater would warm it up real nice in there. A couple rod holders mounted to the sides of the front of the wheelchair, maybe some kind of mount for a flasher somewhere. The only problem would be getting the skirt down to the ice on the back and sides without it dragging during transport.

If I was to modify a flip over to get a wheelchair in, I'd cut the notch out from the back Instead of the side and put a hinge on to keep snow out.

Does the guy like dogs? There's all kinds of places that do service dogs. They can pull stuff, and who doesn't need a dog to hang out with?

Thx Griz! the service dog idea is pretty awesome!  I worked w/2x orgs this year as a volunteer  They are in/near Denver
and both provide service dogs    I just sent off emails to check if they offer vets grants - min. cost of trained dog is $8K
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 10:00 AM
FYI  spoke with Marcum

They are glad to offer a VIP discount to disabled vets that must purchase direct from them - it is a VERY good discount!

NICE JOB MARCUM -SUPPORT VETS!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: MT Hank on Jan 03, 2012, 10:14 AM
If a drill/adapter/auger set up could be used this is what I did to prevent dropping the auger if it was to come loose.
Not sure how to modify/shorten the auger it self. It is light and easy to handle.

Just a thought...

(http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii418/MTHank/Tether.jpg)

Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: bee on Jan 03, 2012, 10:17 AM
Just came across this post. I had a very similar thing happen last winter. I was out fishing and saw a guy on the ice with a chair. I said to the person with me lets go meet him. We went over and met the person. I had my 6' Mora with a 18v. drill with me. I showed him how it worked and handed it over to him to try his hand at it. You know what HE DRILLED HIS OWN HOLES. Made our day and put a smile on his face.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 10:50 AM
If a drill/adapter/auger set up could be used this is what I did to prevent dropping the auger if it was to come loose.
Not sure how to modify/shorten the auger it self. It is light and easy to handle.

Thx MTH -  can you PM & we'll exchange personal email address and/or phone #s  I will call on my dime
I'd like to learn details of your setup and move this fwd asap so Stewart can independently fish sooner than
later   Appreciate your openness to help!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 10:52 AM
Just came across this post. I had a very similar thing happen last winter. I was out fishing and saw a guy on the ice with a chair. I said to the person with me lets go meet him. We went over and met the person. I had my 6' Mora with a 18v. drill with me. I showed him how it worked and handed it over to him to try his hand at it. You know what HE DRILLED HIS OWN HOLES. Made our day and put a smile on his face.

Dude, you rock / you made my day!   PM me and send me info on your Mora & drill set up plz
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 10:59 AM
www.freedomservicedogs.org (http://www.freedomservicedogs.org)   offers golden retrievers to vets @ N/C to them
Fill out application at their site, 1 to 1.5 year wait-list, they find dogs from shelters and work w/you to determine if it's a good fit between vet & pet   Training and placement begins!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: fordkisskrazy on Jan 03, 2012, 12:16 PM
Sent you a pm. Let me know what you think and what I can do to help, one thing to do is make him a Smitty sled for his gear, I pull 180lbs behind me with mine and it feels like 30lbs. We have an old wheel chair here in the yard, will see what I can come up with for ski's for it or something. I'll back ya up 110%. whatever I can do man!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: OTIS on Jan 03, 2012, 12:22 PM
PM sent
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: bee on Jan 03, 2012, 12:23 PM
I sent this pic to Neveruminder. It was my best catch of the season last year. One look at this guys face says it all.


(http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj192/pro390/GEDC0011.jpg)
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Layne on Jan 03, 2012, 12:48 PM
Good work guys, I could only hope that someone would still take me out if the worst happened.

Please let me know if you guys get anything setup for donations, a paypal account would be a good idea.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Tightlines01 on Jan 03, 2012, 12:52 PM
Would it be possible to use a "Pak Shack" for a shelter?  I believe they are from Nature vision.  I remember seeing them set up at a Gander Mountain I went into a few years ago.  They are a bit harder to find now, but from what I recall it was somewhat like a predecessor to the hub style shanty.  What I'm thinking of appeared to be more of the fold up style hunting blind type of shelter that unfolded and you set a camp chair in to use for a seat.  Perhaps something like this could be flipped over his wheel chair.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 01:13 PM
Would it be possible to use a "Pak Shack" for a shelter?  I believe they are from Nature vision.  I remember seeing them set up at a Gander Mountain I went into a few years ago.  They are a bit harder to find now, but from what I recall it was somewhat like a predecessor to the hub style shanty.  What I'm thinking of appeared to be more of the fold up style hunting blind type of shelter that unfolded and you set a camp chair in to use for a seat.  Perhaps something like this could be flipped over his wheel chair.

Thanks TL   Great thought actually as he needs really lightweight gear that he can get in and out of prompty
The weight's a big deal and especially when we get into slush surfaces
do you recall if they had a useful method of screwing these to the ice like an Eskimo Quickfish uses
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 01:20 PM
Good work guys, I could only hope that someone would still take me out if the worst happened.

Please let me know if you guys get anything setup for donations, a paypal account would be a good idea.

I'd help any brother who wanted to fish and yeah, hope others have the same attitude and follow thru

Being a newb to setting up funds - how would most feel about paypal vs bank?   
Doesn't matter to me / I will gladly set up either one    I am truly grateful for offers coming in to help Stewart
you guys are awesome

Let's hear some feedback on this point of what type of medium to use for establishing a fund
     (for those desiring to pitch in and help)
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 01:41 PM
Contacted Stanley Black & Decker   Spoke with Communications Dept (got voice jail)  requested help with cordless product for disabled vet!   I will let you know outcomes soon & positive outcome hopefully!!

Anybody else out there that wants to do any legwork on this - you will not offend me or Stewart so Dive In if you like
as some offers are coming in to do just that 

Trying to do my day job and respond to this so be patient plz  and thanks for caring !!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: roundlakeNY on Jan 03, 2012, 01:44 PM
Kudos to you for doing this.  There should be more people like you out there.  Wish I lived by I would help in a second.  Willing to donate if there is a charity going to be set up.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: bee on Jan 03, 2012, 02:06 PM
Contacted Stanley Black & Decker   Spoke with Communications Dept (got voice jail)  requested help with cordless product for disabled vet!   I will let you know outcomes soon & positive outcome hopefully!!

Anybody else out there that wants to do any legwork on this - you will not offend me or Stewart so Dive In if you like
as some offers are coming in to do just that 

Trying to do my day job and respond to this so be patient plz  and thanks for caring !!
A high Quality drill with good power is needed. I don,t think B&D is going to do that JMHO
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 02:14 PM
Kudos to you for doing this.  There should be more people like you out there.  Wish I lived by I would help in a second.  Willing to donate if there is a charity going to be set up.

Thanks RLNY   I am working on it now since there continues to be an outpouring of support   stay tuned!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 02:15 PM
A high Quality drill with good power is needed. I don,t think B&D is going to do that JMHO

 Never used one and was concerned a 21V might send Stewart spinnin' on the ice  YIKES!!!

 Dewalt was no help so I'm running down what I can so far...
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 02:18 PM
HT Enterprises has an open heart / ear and I sent them a wish list email and expressed gratitude for any help (ideas, discount, donations) they might provide    As stated, I will be putting in my own cash too.

I will let you know what they come back with - let's hope it's Christmas in January for Stewart!!!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: MHoneywell on Jan 03, 2012, 03:23 PM
If something gets set up for cash donation, please post info, probably on another thread.  I feel cash donations may be best as there would be less duplication of efforts. Great works deserve Greeat rewards.

Milt Honeywell
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 04:07 PM
If something gets set up for cash donation, please post info, probably on another thread.

Thanks Milt - it's looking great right now for help from HT Enterprises   Times are tough for most people
and corporations so any time others offer to help it shows well for them

Will keep you & others posted
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: stumper on Jan 03, 2012, 06:17 PM
Any idea what the width of his chair is?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: JMJ IA on Jan 03, 2012, 06:19 PM
I'll make an adapter and do all the needed mods to an auger.  I'm a tool and die maker and have access to all the machinery to do this.  I've made several adapters and would be more than glad to whip up another for a great cause.  Feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 06:34 PM
Any idea what the width of his chair is?

Thx, I will Text Stewart & ask   then post info
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: stumper on Jan 03, 2012, 06:42 PM
Thx, I will Text Stewart & ask   then post info
Sounds good, I will do some research and figure out what shack might best be modded to suit him.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 06:44 PM
I'll make an adapter and do all the needed mods to an auger.  I'm a tool and die maker and have access to all the machinery to do this.  I've made several adapters and would be more than glad to whip up another for a great cause.  Feel free to PM me.

done & as PM says,  THANKS a million!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: carcrazy on Jan 03, 2012, 06:47 PM
check this site out they mite beable to hook your vet up with what he needs http://www.outboundmobility.com/
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 06:56 PM
check this site out they mite beable to hook your vet up with what he needs http://www.outboundmobility.com/

Thx, Yep been to all the sites b4 posting    closest help to MODIFY ONE'S EXISTING CHAIR is the replacement skis
for front wheels.  Already working on that one   He/Stewart wants to attach/detach from rear wheels

Again, thanks and keep 'em coming!  :clap: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Icepuppy on Jan 03, 2012, 07:24 PM
Great thread, nice to see people helping out those less fortunate than ourselves. Just a thought, if you can get the gear together (auger, drill, skis) a local machine or welding shop might be able to help out to modify the gear to suit Stewart. This could be much more effective if a piece in the local news is secured, you'd be amazed what happens when things like this hit the news, win win all round! I'd be in for a paypal donation if someone can set it up.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: stumper on Jan 03, 2012, 08:11 PM
Would it work to find a jet sled or Otter sled that the rear could be removed to allow him to roll into it. Then have some sort of locking device to hold it in place?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: willie1280 on Jan 03, 2012, 08:21 PM
neveruminda,

Not sure how or where i can be off help, but I am an engineer and an ice fisherman.  If you come across something that you need designed and possible fabricated from plastic or something of sorts, let me know.  I'd love to help.

Shoot me a PM if you think of something.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Otto on Jan 03, 2012, 08:43 PM
A high Quality drill with good power is needed. I don,t think B&D is going to do that JMHO

Interesting fact: Black and Decker owns Porter Cable, a very high quality and capable drill for this application. Be sure to ask for a Porter Cable, as long as your asking.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 08:55 PM
Great thread, nice to see people helping out those less fortunate than ourselves. Just a thought, if you can get the gear together (auger, drill, skis) a local machine or welding shop might be able to help out to modify the gear to suit Stewart. This could be much more effective if a piece in the local news is secured, you'd be amazed what happens when things like this hit the news, win win all round! I'd be in for a paypal donation if someone can set it up.

I get your point and if you speak with him he literally says it's the best thing that ever happened to him; literally
That's BOLD

Yeah, I respect his fierce independence & am doing all this in the background w/o his knowledge & that in itself is
killing me  He's a guy who wants to "do" / "give" to others and not worry about self so I'm on needles wondering
how he's going to take this   It'd be a gas if he was checking this site hourly   OH MAN.... "Hey Stewart, Buddy!"

Any-who, I'd definitely ask permission first instead of forgiveness b4 inviting media.  And thx for the gentle prod
as I get your point made
while I'm soft-shoeing in public and running a sprint in private
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 08:58 PM
Interesting fact: Black and Decker owns Porter Cable, a very high quality and capable drill for this application. Be sure to ask for a Porter Cable, as long as your asking.

Thx for the suggestion   AND, just how exactly did you intercept my plan  ::) ;D :bow:
Grew up in midwest near porter cable call center - great products that my pops always enjoyed WHEN HE COULD SAVE ENOUGH   looking back, they were the dewalt of my youth  high priced, high quality
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: wipike on Jan 03, 2012, 09:07 PM
I'd look really hard for a one man PakShack for a shelter.

The old one man is a flip over using thin spring steel for the overhead support, and is attached at only two places - the outstretched  arms of your typical fold out camp chair, and the bottom of the rear legs on the chair. 

At the arms (which is the hinge point for the whole flip over) it's supported by a bolt, with the spring steel bands isolated on each side by a plastic washer.  The width could EASILY reach the requirements for a standard wheel chair, the one thing you may need to work on is the height of the rotation point.

At the rear, the fabric is only screwed into the plastic feet of the chair, so something like a "U" bent piece of 1/2" EMT that could hinge/rotate down from the wheel chair's roll-back safety to the ice with screws to secure the fabric to the bar would keep the back down.  Put a pull cord on it so he can lift it up when he wants to move.

You'd need to find a way to either loose or move the patient push handles on the chair as they would get in the way of the flip over.

Once the flip over is down, the Pakshack is tightened up with two zippers to close it, they're at leg height to ground.  No stakes are needed if the person is already sitting in the chair, the weight will keep it down.


For mobility, outside of tracks, I'd look for a way to make Delrin (UHMPE, the sliders on the bottoms of sleds) runners for the front wheels or straight up replace the front wheels with mini skis/sliders like on a snowmobile.  Then, depending on what material the wheels were made of, I'd just stud the wheels up. 

Auger wise, I'd something like a 6" lazer (because the flutes on the auger are relatively short compared to the shaft length, the Nils seem to have more flutes on the auger, the Mora may have the least), lop down the shaft a good 10" or so with a porta-band until it's almost at the last flute, drill it and put something like a Nimrod adapter (it'll give you an extra 6-8" of shaft before the drill chuck) in the shaft secured with a grade 8 bolt and nylock nut.  Toss on a strap to secure the auger to the drill and you're done.   Put that with a good +18V drill and you'll have a good sized hole that's chair friendly.

Don't forget storage for tackle, something like a boat cushion to flop down on if you want to get on the ice, and a small catalytic style heater.

More ideas as they come to me...

Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: IceBalls on Jan 03, 2012, 09:20 PM
Thx for the thoughts, I'm tracking with you on this one

I own a popup  But, I've seen the Frabill's etc and thought I'd get him over to another guy's unit tomorrow when
we reconnect & see if he can transfer from his wheelchair to the seats inside the Frabill, Clam, etc. 

2x questions
  #1 If you do a cutout section (vs latched/fold down) in one area for a wheelchair to roll back into - would the units
        structural integrity be compromised   I noticed they're a hard shell bottom
  #2 With that opening, wouldn't it be a magnet for gathering snow and/or slush when being pullled?
         Maybe a cut out section that folds down? Any Flip Up owners who can comment?

Just asking...

If you cut out a section of the sled on a flip over, I would tow it out on the ice on top of a "Smitty Sled" (see past threds)..... lots of flip over owners are using this method today.

I think this would be the easiest way for him to get inside a flip over....without transferring from his wheelchair to the shelter....... just roll the wheelchair in backwards & flip the top.  You would, of course, have to remove any seats or obstructions inside the fl;ip over.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 09:44 PM
Both of you gave me much good to think about and research as well   Thanks
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: carcrazy on Jan 03, 2012, 10:00 PM
here you go 1 man pak shack $80 free shipping ebay item #130616512892 just search pak shack
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: fordkisskrazy on Jan 03, 2012, 10:21 PM
I think the pak shack would be a perfect idea and easy to convert for his wheel chair!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: candyok on Jan 03, 2012, 10:40 PM
If the Pak Shack will work, Its on me. Let me know as so as you can, i'm heading for western MT to ice fish tomorow AM. will have my comp. with me but will be late night before I can check it.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: prospector on Jan 03, 2012, 10:42 PM
Still need an auger?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 10:52 PM
If the Pak Shack will work, Its on me. Let me know as so as you can, i'm heading for western MT to ice fish tomorow AM. will have my comp. with me but will be late night before I can check it.

Heading to bed, so this is last post for the night -  First, like all others who post, THANK YOU for the heart behind the
offer as well as for the offer.

As for pak shack, I want to say yes but I was working with HT Enterprises on a whole package for Stewart - including
their 2 man flip over like the pak shack + an auger that has the drill conversion point with it   A concern came up for
the rep @ HT ENt. when I mentioned Stewart needs to have his chair nearby him in the tent.  He wanted some time
to come up with something else and will get back to me tomorrow or as soon as he figures it out.

I'd say hold off on this and have yourself a great time + a big catch in Western MT.  Stay tuned as this has become a
 whirlwind 24 hours I created for myself in helping Stewart - very busy doing this and day job, but definitely all worth
 it nonetheless.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: prospector on Jan 03, 2012, 11:03 PM
You guys are the salt of the earth! :bow: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: dalwhe1970 on Jan 03, 2012, 11:10 PM
 ;D This subject should be on the main page for all to see all the time, If every member on iceshanty donated even one dollar to this cause then you could purchase anything you want for this man to get out fishing; You could get him a motorized portable with heat and everything.
Ice shanty members:39,223
One dollar per member:$39,223
two dollars per member:$78446
five per member:$196115

It's amazing what a small amount of generosity will do from everyone; Get a paypal account set up and lets go

 ;D
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Buck1985 on Jan 03, 2012, 11:12 PM
;D This subject should be on the main page for all to see all the time, If every member on iceshanty donated even one dollar to this cause then you could purchase anything you want for this man to get out fishing; You could get him a motorized portable with heat and everything.
Ice shanty members:39,223
One dollar per member:$39,223
two dollars per member:$78446
five per member:$196115

It's amazing what a small amount of generosity will do from everyone; Get a paypal account set up and lets go

 ;D

If this was Facebook, I would be all over the "like" button on this one  haha   ;D
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 03, 2012, 11:24 PM
STATUS POST:   Tuesday Evening Jan 3rd

A few diff. vendors' phone reps were not enabled to help out  AND I don't beat doors down 

Nils - instantly offered full support except their new cordless drill designed shaft product comes out next year - 
         Stewart needs help now  :icefish: THANKS NILS, PLZ SUPPORT NILS YOU GUYS!!!
Stanley,B&D, Porter - no word back yet from rep.
Nature Vision - unable to reach then for 2 man pak shack   seems they closed their doors, turned off their phones

HT Enterprises- HOME RUN  Great rep there who is all-in for helping out  putting together a package for Stewart
         Listen, for their receptiveness alone, I'll support them more than I have already - I'm a HT ENT customer
         So far, requested help with:  Jigs, Jig Case, Auger Shaft, 2 Person flip over (like pak schack), telescopic skimmer,
                                      long handle gaff (yep, I know of Colorado Regs & harm to fish), hanging light puck for tent,
                                      a couple of good rod/reel combos (he bought what he could afford - cheapos)
         They are looking into it

Many Shanty-ites have offered cash (paypal, etc)- Thx, let's keep the offers open along w/lines of comm. 
I'm holding off for now on these offers.  I honestly believe manuf. & vendors will come thru for Stewart
If you want to help him at the end of this cycle, I am not willing to stop you from doing so and will set
up different mediums + you have access to his contact info.

One offer of handmade jigs & lures came in, Stewart's going to love it  Thx

Physical fabrication offers from you other hardwater nuts are coming thru as well   I will collaborate w/all who offer up
usable ideas   Getting his chair or another one on skis is a really huge deal right now  One local in Denver is on it w/a
fab extraordinaire buddy in his words, Like White On Rice             hit a home run Troy!

Last thought for the night, Stewart will also need:
        high btu-capable propane lantern w/auto igniter if there are any extras out there
        a cordless drill (a local is working on drill w/Home Depot + snap-on +matco, etc)


If I didn't mention any offers made, forgive me / sorry - it's late after a long day
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Loudmouth879 on Jan 03, 2012, 11:49 PM
just found this post tonight so I don't know how far along you got with the wheelchair in but I'm putting a email into the adaptive physical education/outdoor recreation program at my school and it is one of the best programs nationwide to see if they have any ideas or suggestion with the wheelchair or anything else. It is winter break so they may not reply but there is a winter session going on so I'm hoping for the best. Will let you know how I make out!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 04, 2012, 06:51 AM
just found this post tonight so I don't know how far along you got with the wheelchair in but I'm putting a email into the adaptive physical education/outdoor recreation program at my school and it is one of the best programs nationwide to see if they have any ideas or suggestion with the wheelchair or anything else. It is winter break so they may not reply but there is a winter session going on so I'm hoping for the best. Will let you know how I make out!

Right on, Thx!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Rebelss on Jan 04, 2012, 08:32 AM
Just saw this now. What a great idea!!! Behind you 110%....I'll help all I can....know all about the disability/leg thing on the ice. Very little money, but I'm willing to send whatever you may need as far as reels, combo's, etc. that I can put together. Need tackle, lures, etc? Let me know....I know LOTS of people in the right places.... :whistle:
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 04, 2012, 09:17 AM
just found this post tonight so I don't know how far along you got with the wheelchair in but I'm putting a email into the adaptive physical education/outdoor recreation program at my school and it is one of the best programs nationwide to see if they have any ideas or suggestion with the wheelchair or anything else. It is winter break so they may not reply but there is a winter session going on so I'm hoping for the best. Will let you know how I make out!

PM'd you, go for it & thx!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 04, 2012, 09:18 AM
Just saw this now. What a great idea!!! Behind you 110%....I'll help all I can....know all about the disability/leg thing on the ice. Very little money, but I'm willing to send whatever you may need as far as reels, combo's, etc. that I can put together. Need tackle, lures, etc? Let me know....I know LOTS of people in the right places.... :whistle:

Thx Rebel, keep it as a placeholder   MANY irons in the fire right now with manufacturers so hang tight & THX!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: ducati on Jan 04, 2012, 09:33 AM
Great cause and idea's here, I will definitely be in for a donation.  Once an account is setup I can post this info on the two Colorado fishing sites I am a memeber of for some donation's if need be if that is ok with you.. 
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 04, 2012, 09:41 AM
Great cause and idea's here, I will definitely be in for a donation.  Once an account is setup I can post this info on the two Colorado fishing sites I am a memeber of for some donation's if need be if that is ok with you..

Thx Ducati, appreciate the offer to help brother & yes, great idea you have on additional sites
As mentioned to others, I am keeping this above boards and not wanting to accept financial
help prematurely - these are tough times for all & I will not jump the gun / take a dime from anybody
til it all washes out.

One thing he spoke to me about on the ice is acquiring & setting up a summer fishing boat like he
had in Mississippi   So when we wrap up the ice fishing scenario with manufacturers & my giving -
if any interest continues with private parties - we can help him further thru set up of a fund and
all can give as they please towards the summer project.  JUST A THOUGHT... feedback welcomed
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: fishybill on Jan 04, 2012, 10:22 AM
Improvise, adapt, overcome

I know a blind guy that goes ice fishing, most times he goes alone.
Crazy sob lol
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: MT Hank on Jan 04, 2012, 12:07 PM
Thx MTH -  can you PM & we'll exchange personal email address and/or phone #s  I will call on my dime
I'd like to learn details of your setup and move this fwd asap so Stewart can independently fish sooner than
later   Appreciate your openness to help!

Sent PM with details... really inexpensive.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: willie1280 on Jan 04, 2012, 01:04 PM
I've been thinking about this alot since reading this last night.

What's his mode of transportation to and from the lake?  I mean we have all these great ideas, but does he have the necessary vehicle/trailer to get all this to and from?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: MI-Boy on Jan 04, 2012, 01:28 PM
That would be amazing if we could get him that tracked chair, just think how many "normal" guys would be green with envy watching him tool around on the ice with that, I would gladly throw in twenty bucks for the cause. On the cordless drill I wonder if a cordless impact wrench would be better. I own both so Ill try to whip up some adapters for my hand auger and see if I can test the theory. Also I live in Greeley, and used to work in machining and fabrication in Denver, still have some contacts in the field there who I'm sure would be willing to help bang out some custom stuff for this guy. Pm and let me know how I can help and Ill play with the auger tonight.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: heavycat78 on Jan 04, 2012, 01:32 PM
This would be great but not sure if this company still exists(renegade wheelchairs). Thought it might give someone with some fabricating skills some ideas though. Love to see so many people willing to help out!
(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/heavycat78/110winter_package.gif)
(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/heavycat78/3547062832_5617f7b0b7_z.jpg)
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: wipike on Jan 04, 2012, 01:43 PM
This would be great but not sure if this company still exists(renegade wheelchairs). Thought it might give someone with some fabricating skills some ideas though. Love to see so many people willing to help out!
(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/heavycat78/110winter_package.gif)
(http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/heavycat78/3547062832_5617f7b0b7_z.jpg)

Now that's what I was thinking about when I was going through ideas in my head - that's awesome.  Especially the hand drive, unique and completely functional.  That'd be a great pattern to build off.

Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: willie1280 on Jan 04, 2012, 02:23 PM
Best part is that if you make the front skis removable, you could easily put some nice pneumatic tires on there for all-terrain wheeling in the ice-less months.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: fordkisskrazy on Jan 04, 2012, 02:58 PM
HOLY COW! I found a frame just like that on cl this morning, been trying to get a hold of them all day. Had a similar idea but heck I can make that up with some old bike parts my kids have laying around. Cross your fingers I can get a hold of em and it will work for the man.
 Willie1280, I'm thinking the same thing about front wheels. Sure hope this will work and I can get it. What do you think neveruminda? Let us know when you all are done fishing.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Wizzofd69 on Jan 04, 2012, 03:02 PM
Thats awesome, def gunna be me when i get older, least he has a comfy chair haha
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: war eagle on Jan 04, 2012, 05:08 PM
Can't help with any of the requested equipment but will be more than happy to make a monetary donation when/if you set something up.PM me if you want.You're a hell of a good guy doing this for a total stranger and veteran regardless of nationality.Hats off to you!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Lobes on Jan 04, 2012, 07:19 PM
I wonder if we could come up with a way to power a wheelchair with a cordless drill?

                                                  :tipup:
NBG
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 04, 2012, 08:06 PM
I've been thinking about this alot since reading this last night.

What's his mode of transportation to and from the lake?  I mean we have all these great ideas, but does he have the necessary vehicle/trailer to get all this to and from?

Hey Willie -Thx for your interest / keep it up! 

 Stewart has an Expedition     

Was with him after work today on the ice and I was open about my desire to help with modifying his chair
He said they no longer make it and he'd modify another one before touching the existing

Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 04, 2012, 08:07 PM
Improvise, adapt, overcome

I know a blind guy that goes ice fishing, most times he goes alone.
Crazy sob lol

WOW, that def. qualifies for crazy :cookoo: :cookoo:
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Shadrap on Jan 04, 2012, 08:32 PM
Been doing it from a chair since I was 30 in 1990.  A lot of it on my own and I mean a lot.  Deep snow, hills, ya I've done a lot of crawlin and haulin.  Carrying gear is pretty difficult.  Used to be a serious trapper when I had my legs.  Was visiting a long time friend my furbuyer after recovery and he had a trap basket sitting there in his shop and I got to thinking.  Huh I'll bet that will fit right on the back of my chair and will hold my ice gear.  He said here it is yours.  Has held my guns and blinds as well.  Mounted some pvc tubes in it to hold rolds and fastened a Field and Stream tackle bag around the outside of it to hold small gear etc/.   I'm fortunate to have full use of my arms so the lazer set to its lowest extension works well for me.  Just got to scoot out on the chair a bit to get set in position to drill.  The fixed leg bar on this fellas chair might make this difficult.  I've got the swing aways on my chair but never use them.  Run over my feet a lot but hey thats fishin.  I can set up a Shappel 3000 by myself but have not attempted to nor would I try to pull it out on my own.  Thats what fishin buddies are for. lol.  The Shappel doors are wide enought to get a 26" width chair thru.  If there is a will there is a way.  Fella made it out on the ice on his own and probably felt quite a bit of accomplishment.  Hats off buddy a good luck at keepin your feet warm.   I've pulled my boots off to black/blue feet quite a few times.  Mickey Mouse has worked the best.  I've looked at those Renegade chairs for sometime now and they look like the cats meow.  Salty yes.  Close to 4k.  Getting it in and out of the truck to me looks like it might be a challenge.  Would have to be an extra thrown in the bed of the truck deal.  I've got a Quickie II heavy duty chair that folds up and I swing in the backseat of my Sierra pretty easily.  By the way I put my 16ft low boat in and out by myself too but thats another story.  lol.  Anyway though maybe the trap backet idea might help.  good fishin all.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: fordkisskrazy on Jan 04, 2012, 09:11 PM
Shadrap, I bow before you man :bow: 
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Trooper Bri on Jan 04, 2012, 09:20 PM
Found a vid on YouTube of a guy who rigged a plow on his Renegade. Too cool!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCdtbGthoT0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCdtbGthoT0)
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: au·ger on Jan 04, 2012, 11:02 PM
http://www.back2sports.net/products1.htm (http://www.back2sports.net/products1.htm)

This gentleman talks about using his chair for icefishing

Au-ger
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 05, 2012, 07:37 AM
Stewart and I had a blast yesterday afternoon on the ice and he told me about the video of him flying in Miami where the cruise ships dock   Check out this video thread of Stewart Macquillan!  First paraplegic to fly a helicopter thru his invention - Aeroleg
     http://www.metacafe.com/watch/527425/paraplegic_pilot_flies/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/527425/paraplegic_pilot_flies/)

Man, this guy has lived about 20x normal lives thru the opportunities that came his way via inner drive plus raw & developed talent
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 05, 2012, 10:46 AM
http://www.back2sports.net/products1.htm (http://www.back2sports.net/products1.htm)

This gentleman talks about using his chair for icefishing

Au-ger

Thx Auger  I just got off the phone w/Tom from Adaptive Sports   Their unit is a modular build that he and his son
designed and manufacture at their home in Grand Rapids.  They have a base unit or the unit that attaches wheels
on the back push handles     Plus, they have conversion kits to make them a bicycle set up etc

$1,200 for ski unit with wheels

How long do you suppose it'd take to raise that here on IS?   sixty guys @ $20 each 
   First sixty guys interested please PM me with your contact info only - don't include graphics as my inbox is overflowing
   When I hit sixty I will set up a paypal account post-haste!

Look forward to it   They have ten in production and eight are spoken for as of 2 mins ago  (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb334/neveruminda/snowchairscan.jpg)
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: fordkisskrazy on Jan 05, 2012, 11:00 AM
I'm in! sent you an email! let me know where and when. Come on guys, lets help Stewart out! I'll go $40.00
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 05, 2012, 01:32 PM
Been doing it from a chair since I was 30 in 1990. 

KUDOS SHADRAP!!!  That's awesome!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: mi500 on Jan 05, 2012, 01:47 PM
do you have to have a pay pal account send some money to this?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 05, 2012, 03:31 PM
do you have to have a pay pal account send some money to this?

NO   
We wanted to fab something for Stewart but realized there's many implications to this and a man's life and health
depends on the work done.    Acquiring a chair out of Grand Rapids MI, which will open up more to him - he can
make it a bicycle for sidewalks and trails, he can add beach tires to it and be by water, etc
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: fordkisskrazy on Jan 05, 2012, 05:48 PM
I can't find the new post. Anyone know where it might be?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: war eagle on Jan 05, 2012, 06:42 PM
Check is in the mail! Come on folks ,I know the economy sucks and we're all struggling in one way or another,but we all spend tons of cash on gear we probably don't NEED,bait,booze and gas... you get the point. So lets all ante up and help this guy out.Thanks!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: stumper on Jan 05, 2012, 07:01 PM
I can't find the new post. Anyone know where it might be?

Its not there, might have been deleted?
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: ducati on Jan 05, 2012, 08:19 PM
I am in for $20.  I have a bite and I am sure there will be more from the other site's I am on.  These guys will gladly donate once they see a pay pal account posted.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: taw024 on Jan 05, 2012, 08:28 PM
Any one find other post
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 05, 2012, 08:39 PM
Its not there, might have been deleted?

Mods pulled the fundraising post despite it being entirely legitimate  Sent note to IS OWNER earlier Thursday.
No response from Mods or Owner - sometimes you learn there may be an answer in receiving no answer!!

BE PATIENT PLZ and don't hesitate to contact me direct with Questions:
Steven    [email protected]  719.494.1928 mobile MT Zone
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: ducati on Jan 05, 2012, 08:42 PM
Sounds good, thanks for the update.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: newincudahy on Jan 05, 2012, 10:01 PM
Seems to me drilling from the chair makes the most sense. It shouldnt take too much of a mod to shorten a 5" lazer and attach a 18v drill. I will see what I can come up with,
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 05, 2012, 11:05 PM
Seems to me drilling from the chair makes the most sense. It shouldnt take too much of a mod to shorten a 5" lazer and attach a 18v drill. I will see what I can come up with,

Thanks so much for jumping in.   FYI A manufacturer notified me today they are shipping an auger shaft with adapter !!

Can't thank you enough for your willingness!  If they do not come thru I will PM you + the few others willing to help in
this area
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 06, 2012, 09:04 AM
NO WORD FROM SHANTY      / POLICY DISCUSSIONS /

STILL RECEIVING EMAIL AND PM with support for this worthy cause   Thanks to all of you that see it for what it is
and have not given up too soon on helping out Stewart     
Steven C    [email protected]  719.494.1928 mobile MT Zone

Stewart went out before me two days ago and there was a local (Dave) who helped Stewart open2x holes. Here's
his first 'stalker' trout of the day    Dave and I got a chance to fish together last night for an hour or so while Stewart
was taking his wife out for dinner   atta boy!

(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb334/neveruminda/imagejpeg_3.jpg)

Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: Goatskin on Jan 06, 2012, 12:11 PM
This is an amazing thread! Keep up the great work guys!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: pikeking on Jan 06, 2012, 12:59 PM
If you need a chair, My brother is in a chair from a 68' fall from a roof. He has a custom built superlite. chair from Spaulding Rehab in Boston that he doesn't use. It is light wieght aluminum and we will ship it to you.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 06, 2012, 01:28 PM
Thanks PK  I sincerely appreciate that    Please contact me/Steven @  719.494.1928  I am interested
in knowing more about it since mods \ pulled down the link for getting him this other one.  I will pm you
and send my address:  AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HEART & WILLINGNESS to help the cause
I will personally pay shipping if that'd help

Also, send me pics to:   [email protected]


This is about getting Stewart out on the lakes during winter without him ripping out his shoulders
He had two methods of getting out there -
       ski poles propelling him/his wheelchair - not easy let alone on uneven ice, slush, deeper snow
       He transfers into jet sled, tosses in his chair    - same method & results as above

On page #1 of post, one guy suggested starting a fund to get him an outdoor sports chair; 4 pages
later another guy found one and I took the suggestion to start a drive to get Stewart a chair.  As
there were concerns with creating a chair that had not been designed by an engineer/approved by
disability governance body

The beauty of a modular sports chair is that the base chair is a wheelchair and ski chair.  From there,
modules can be added to open up other types of recreation
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 06, 2012, 01:44 PM
do you have to have a pay pal account send some money to this?

They ask you to create a user id and from there you log in and then plug in my email address tied to my account
and you determine how you want to pay  Credit Card is most typical method for occasional users

I will then take 100% of the funds and pay Tom @ Back2Sports for his chair they are building
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 07, 2012, 01:32 PM
Ecstatic to report a few individuals who wish to remain
 anonymous have committed to make up any balance
when chair is completed next week.

In my 51 years I've learned it is the few that make a
difference & rarely the many
 
I will post pics with Stewart out on the ice on his new
sports chair in approx. 2.5 weeks

Someone else donated an ultra-light chair and we will
take our time to research adapting that one for another
gentleman who is not in a hurry (2 for 1) !!

If u would like to help Stewart to ice fish more
& more easily pm me   THANKS!
Steven 719.494.1928. co.trouthunter@gmail

Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 08, 2012, 11:07 AM
Updated Mod with latest status, HEAVENS OPENED - MODS RESTORED FOLLOWING POST FOR DONATING TO CAUSE:
              WHAT WOULD YOU DO


Just spoke w/Tom & his son Tom Jr @ BACK2SPORTS for build status update   They are behind, but will have it
done this week or next.  They are setting up electronic payment so I can personally PAY THE INVOICE IN FULL     
this week.   Upon receipt of paid invoice image, I will post it within this thread   I will authorize Tom to  speak
with any person that wishes to validate the transaction


Look forward to seeing (and posting pic of) Stewart in his new chair!   :clap: :thumbsup: :clap:


FYI Received notice that PAYPAL account was not working   SORRY  first time setting up an actual 2way account
  PAYPAL is now updated / working for  [email protected]   
  DWOLLA account is up & working & is a fourth of the fee paypal takes for $20 donation
All proceeds received will then offset the invoice I paid

CALL WITH QUESTIONS:    Steven  719.494.1928 MT Zone 
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: graylinggod83 on Jan 09, 2012, 09:10 PM
hey steven remember me from monument lake?
i went home and told my father to look up your first post and he was so impressed he allowed me to donate $100. i hope my contribution will help this amazing guy.
tight lines, nick kvachkoff
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 09, 2012, 11:37 PM
hey steven remember me from monument lake?
i went home and told my father to look up your first post and he was so impressed he allowed me to donate $100. i hope my contribution will help this amazing guy.
tight lines, nick kvachkoff

HEY  NICK'STER!!!!  I was looking for you again tonight on the ice   The trout were hitting hard
I stayed 'til after dark and was expecting you to roll up again

Stewart and I fished together (at the same spot as last night) for a few hours today  He beat me
out to my holes & was killin' it before he had a 6PM presentation @ the Air Force Academy   

And seriously, I just can't thank you and your dad enough for the gracious gift! 
Thanks guys!   I'm sure your Dad agrees, you're a great young man.


Hope to see you out there again soon or maybe at Granelli's!  I told my wife there just might be
hope for good pizza in Colorado

Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 10, 2012, 10:14 PM
CHECK OUT POST:  WHAT WOULD YOU DO
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: hickgtx600f4 on Jan 11, 2012, 10:25 AM
I was thinking of a way to use a flip style blind for a wheelchair. Ameristep treestands offers chair blinds that flip over a collapsible camping chairs. maybee one of these could be modified to fit over a wheelchair and fill in the window areas with a clear plastic like the shanty windows in most new flips. possibly removng the blinds hub and ataching it to the wheelchair some how. here is the link to see the different width's available.

http://www.ameristep.com/blinds/881_oneman.html

good luck.
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 11, 2012, 10:58 AM
Thanks for the heads up!  I am on it!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: neveruminda on Jan 13, 2012, 12:38 PM
PICKING UP STEAM TODAY THANKS TO SOME KINDHEARTED SOULS - I always believed it to be possible!
Title: Re: ice fisherman IN A WHEELCHAIR
Post by: hickgtx600f4 on Jan 16, 2012, 11:02 AM
heres another link for quick shelter all set up for ice fishing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Per-Pak-Shack-Ice-Fishing-Portable-Shelter-House-New-/130629242166?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6a1c0d36