ice may be just starting....its been some ice then away it goes...and a little shore ice now. Docks just got pulled also from the city launch I have used. Forecast looks not good for open water.....or for ice for that matter. Unless we get really really cold for several weeks I think perching through ice out in the deep areas of the lake...I think MKG Lake is a dream this year. We may also be getting to where boats may not be able to get out too so the perch may be getting a break soon.