very similar to what I use, 20# fl but like the 3/0 cirlce, and have recently bought some wide gap hooks. Have heard lots of debate between the 2 of them, but to tell the truith, they lookd very similar. I like the corner of the mouth hook ups, and they ARE hooked, actually, hard to pull out. I have been tieing them about 30 in. only so upon checking for nicks, I have ample string to re tie. I s that a bead? or split shot? Most of our pike go from 20- 28 in., so I have not felt the need for heavier fl. Yet