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Title: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: Iceassin on Mar 04, 2018, 06:40 AM
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Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 04, 2018, 06:50 AM
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Had 2 of those. Gave one to a friend and then lost mine one day. It was a great tool, just easy to lose. Thanks for the link, maybe I will get me another 2 of them and keep them both.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 04, 2018, 07:03 AM
It had a lanyard on it and one day it was gone. Just had the lanyard hooked to my belt loop.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: 3300 on Mar 04, 2018, 08:06 AM
i'd buy more useful things like jigs or headlamp or eye glasses before spending on it.
ties wrong knot for ice fishing. it would just be in the way to tie ice jigs the correct way.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: marknpanfish on Mar 04, 2018, 08:19 AM
So what is exactly the correct way to tie a jigs.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: 3300 on Mar 04, 2018, 08:51 AM
surgeon's loop knot.
my favorite.
http://www.animatedknots.com/surgeonsloop/index.php

what's yours?
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 04, 2018, 09:10 AM
surgeon's loop knot.
my favorite.

what's yours?
I always use the improved Clinch knot.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: eriksat1 on Mar 04, 2018, 10:59 AM
I have one but I forget to use it. It is not really for tying the knot, it just holds the jig eye and has a funnel to thread the line through.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: PoleJerker on Mar 04, 2018, 11:18 AM
I've got one but seldom use it.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: Flatrocker on Mar 04, 2018, 12:07 PM
My eyes and the Palomar knot work well together.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: marknpanfish on Mar 04, 2018, 01:40 PM
I use the improved clinch knot to make my jigs hang horizontal when needed.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Mar 04, 2018, 05:28 PM
I was using the improved clinch knot but keeping a horizontal jig level was a  pain..had to adjust it after every fish.i now use the rapala knot which is similiar to the surgeon loop knot.the jig stays in the right position and get better jigging action with it.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: marknpanfish on Mar 04, 2018, 05:38 PM
I will have to try that it sounds good.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 04, 2018, 06:27 PM
I was using the improved clinch knot but keeping a horizontal jig level was a  pain..had to adjust it after every fish.i now use the rapala knot which is similiar to the surgeon loop knot.the jig stays in the right position and get better jigging action with it.
So do you pull the knot tight against the jig? Every video I watched shows you leave a space in between the lure and the knot.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Mar 05, 2018, 06:55 AM
So do you pull the knot tight against the jig? Every video I watched shows you leave a space in between the lure and the knot.
no leave a loop and the horizontal jig will balance at the correct angle.i use 3mm fiskas and they swivel at a perfect angle and no repositioning the jig anymore.these jigs were made to sit at a slight angle not level.ive used it with different jigs tho too.try it out sometime.the jigging action really comes alive not being tied direct to the line.i think I get better hook up ratio too because the fish can grab it from the side and get hooked also.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: marknpanfish on Mar 05, 2018, 07:06 AM
Well I'll be I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks. I just tested it that should work good, thanks for the advice
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: marknpanfish on Mar 05, 2018, 07:09 AM
can teach no can't
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Mar 05, 2018, 07:27 AM
yeah I was so tired of repositioning the jig on every drop.it works great..its strong too.i caught lots of decent bass,perch and panfish with no break offs.it doesnt matter how big of loop you tie either.the fish don't seem to care.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 05, 2018, 07:43 AM
no leave a loop and the horizontal jig will balance at the correct angle.i use 3mm fiskas and they swivel at a perfect angle and no repositioning the jig anymore.these jigs were made to sit at a slight angle not level.ive used it with different jigs tho too.try it out sometime.the jigging action really comes alive not being tied direct to the line.i think I get better hook up ratio too because the fish can grab it from the side and get hooked also.
Thanks Dr. I'll give it a try next year. Done for this year got too much to do around the yard.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: eriksat1 on Mar 05, 2018, 08:04 AM
You might appreciate this tool when you reach that age where you can’t thread a jig eye with 2 Lb mono without reading glasses. That is the only reason I bought one.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 05, 2018, 08:31 AM
You might appreciate this tool when you reach that age where you can’t thread a jig eye with 2 Lb mono without reading glasses. That is the only reason I bought one.

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Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: eriksat1 on Mar 05, 2018, 08:49 AM
Like it says right on the main page, “ Situations where TYEPRO™ is especially useful”
“Low light, impaired vision, cold hands”
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: Iceassin on Mar 05, 2018, 05:04 PM
Like it says right on the main page, “ Situations where TYEPRO™ is especially useful”
“Low light, impaired vision, cold hands”

That would be me...even with new glasses, light line and small jigs can be a challenge. I do use those No-Knots in some situations but still have to tie them. May invest in one of those Tyepros...can't hurt. Oh to be young again  :-\...
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: vanhln on Mar 06, 2018, 08:43 AM
Am I the only fool who doesn't know what GTSSB means??  Why can't people use normal expressions....
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 06, 2018, 09:00 AM
Am I the only fool who doesn't know what GTSSB means??  Why can't people use normal expressions....
Clowns to the left of me ,Jokers to the right, Here I am stuck in the middle with you.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 06, 2018, 09:04 AM
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 06, 2018, 10:02 AM
Took a while to figure it out. Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread.
                                                G        T       S        S      B.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: vanhln on Mar 06, 2018, 10:05 AM
I guess its me... Love Stealers Wheel though....
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: Icemole on Mar 06, 2018, 10:39 AM
 I can get 14 pairs of reading glasses at the dollar store for that price   ;D
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: Iceassin on Mar 06, 2018, 11:48 AM
Am I the only fool who doesn't know what GTSSB means??  Why can't people use normal expressions....

Greatest Thing Since Sliced Bread... like GOAT - Greatest Of All Time. And why you ask? That's how we learn... ;)
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: eriksat1 on Mar 06, 2018, 12:07 PM
Cutting bread always was a pita
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: perch chacer on Mar 06, 2018, 12:29 PM
The knot tied in the top video was always called a fishermen's knot when I was taught as a kid and we still refere to it as such.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: Iceassin on Mar 07, 2018, 05:26 AM


 :clap:
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: Iceassin on Mar 07, 2018, 05:31 AM
I can get 14 pairs of reading glasses at the dollar store for that price   ;D

Glasses, no matter how good or strong they are, will never bring your eyesight back to what it used to be. You'll see...or not. ;) Besides, why carry 14 pair of reading glasses in your tackle box when you can have 1 of these tools?  ;D
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: eriksat1 on Mar 07, 2018, 06:41 AM
The knot tied in the top video was always called a fishermen's knot when I was taught as a kid and we still refere to it as such.

It was also called improved clinch knot, and was the first good fishing knot I ever learned when I was a kid and I still use it sometimes. http://www.animatedknots.com/improvedclinch/index.php
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: Indie on Mar 07, 2018, 06:46 AM
My eyes and the Palomar knot work well together.
Palomar knot all the way for me, it won’t slip and will stay on top of a jig fished horizontally. Otherwise improved clinch/fisherman’s knot. The problem with the clinch is that it can slip under heavy pressure/tight drag, I’ve had a few uncurl on very large lake trout this year and then is when I switched to the Palomar with no issues.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: eriksat1 on Mar 07, 2018, 07:14 AM
Palomar knot all the way for me, it won’t slip and will stay on top of a jig fished horizontally. Otherwise improved clinch/fisherman’s knot. The problem with the clinch is that it can slip under heavy pressure/tight drag, I’ve had a few uncurl on very large lake trout this year and then is when I switched to the Palomar with no issues.

I have never heard of a improved clinch knot slipping? Were you using one of the really slick super braid lines? I have never had one slip with mono. If it slipped with mono it wasn’t tyed correctly. I believe I have heard of it slipping with a super braid line though. I now mainly use the Palomar knot also, especially with braid.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Mar 07, 2018, 07:16 AM
all I know is if you use fiskas or other similar horizontals it shows right on the package the knot to use for them which is a surgeon loop knot.very similar to the rapala knot ive been using.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: eriksat1 on Mar 07, 2018, 07:26 AM
I have found also with some really small ice jigs, that it is almost impossible to double the line through the eye, making the Palomar impossible to tye.
Title: Re: Gimmick or GTSSB ?
Post by: Indie on Mar 07, 2018, 07:45 AM
I have never heard of a improved clinch knot slipping? Were you using one of the really slick super braid lines? I have never had one slip with mono. If it slipped with mono it wasn’t tyed correctly. I believe I have heard of it slipping with a super braid line though. I now mainly use the Palomar knot also, especially with braid.
Neither had I, fluorocarbon, took my time, moistened knot...but it happened. I tie this knot all the time usually with no issue but big fish can find your weakest link. Never had this issue before but it cost me several big fish. Maybe it was a vertical thing with heavy pressure, never had the problem surfcasting for big fish. Still I feel safer using the Palomar jigging for lake trout. The Palomar knot is very strong and has out performed the clinch in break tests. I still use the clinch (swivel)but at my jig head I want the strongest knot as this is where the most pressure is applied when fighting the fish.