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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Northern Pike => Topic started by: BryanC on Feb 16, 2004, 10:37 PM
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has anyone ver caught a blue pike before?
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I have caught one with eyes of a walleye! Caught it in Witter Lake in central Wisconsin. Very odd fish indeed! :o
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I thought the blue pike was extinct?
Jon
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Extinct? Holy Shrimp! I caught the equal to the Dodo bird! ;D I believe they are, (if I'm right), kinda like a black squirrel, blue perch, or a blue lobster. Freaks of nature. Something like a "phase" or even a mutation. My sister used to own a cottage on this lake outside Wautoma Wisconsin many years back. The lake supported at least a couple of them. She had caught one a year before I did. It was yearrrrrrs ago so if I can find a pic, I will post it! -Barleydog
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a blue lobster isnt really a freak of nature it tastes the same as a regular lobster and u can find them quite commonly only reason i know this is because i am a student at the culinary institute of america and i just learned this
hahahahaha
just kidding guys
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Looks like they went extinct in 1970.
http://www.bagheera.com/inthewild/ext_bluepike.htm
I remember a story a year or so ago around Buffalo at one of the colleges there. They had a man that had a frozen Blue Pike in his freezer since 1970 something that was caught from Lake Erie. He kept it all those years in his freezer. Then he found out they were looking for DNA on this fish and turned it in. I guess the reason is the college would like to study the DNA to possibly clone the fish or make a hybrid similiar to what has happened with pike and musky to make a tiger musky.
Jon
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buckshotjon, So what would this fish that we caught in the 80's be considered? Do you have a picture of the extinct blue pike? I see the article stated that billions of pounds were caught commercially, someone from around 1962 should have a photo eh? The fish we had caught was really different! They had marbled eyes like a walleye? The skin was pale blue which at the time made me think of some sort of albinoism or skin pigment problem? No nuke plants in the area so I'm out of guesses ???
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Barleydog- Did the fish you caught look like any of these?
http://www.nativefish.org/BluePike/Gallery/
These have been caught in recent years, so maybe there are some left.
-Zach
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Barley,
Your description sounds like the blue pike. Zach put up a good link and it sounds like the fish you caught.
Should be nice to see a large return of those fish if there are some out there.
The picture on the website of the dead blue pike that was frozen is the one I think has Lake Erie ties to it.
Jon
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the fish pictured is actually known as blue pickerel, or blue walleye. they are truly walleye in every aspect, except coloration. they were thought to be extinct, but periodically pop up in catches. cant remember the last catch, but wasn't that long ago. i remember my father talking about catching them in nw ontario when he was younger. nice coloration!!! grumpymoe this fish was very predominant in lake erie!!
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ChenBassHead & Zach, Neat pics, but not the same fish. ??? The fish we had caught were in fact northern pike in every way except coloration and eyes!
I have caught fish in coastal Washington and B.C. with very similar coloration variations. Ling cod and cabezon are two preditory fish that take on different "hues" and even muscle coloration variations. Biologists claim that some of these fish have adapted to a large diet of crab that turns thier skin and flesh BLUE!!!! I think there's a picture around the house I can post. :) I had caught several of these fish, and they're a real eye opener! :o When cleaned, thier flesh is a nice blue color which has a great flavor that turns white when cooked. ;D Kinda off the topic but.....
Perhaps, after further review, the fish we had caught in Wisconsin were influenced by thier own diet? I doubt it, due to the walleye "eye" that they sported. Still searching for answers. It was probably a freak and not an actual identified species, (I had no clue there was such a beast that roamed the great lakes until this topic was brought up!)
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the fish pictured is actually known as blue pickerel, or blue walleye.
Actually, this fish was indeed called the blue pike...walleyes are also known as walleyed pike in some places. And yes, the blue pike was indeed a walleye. It was a subspecies...the other subspecies being the yellow, or golden, walleye. This, of course, is the walleye we have all some to know.
-Zach
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Full grown albino snaping turtles, thats it. No blue lobsterpikeeyes. ::)
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In-Fisherman had a picture of a white pike that Doug Stange caught. Not sure if it was a true albino, but it was a beautiful fish. It was in the same artical as that mutated glowing walleye.
-Zach
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supposely theres a lake in canada where there is both kinds, with the blue pike more common. they are still out there but they are VERY RARE.
like tryin to find a spoon in rg's jig box. there maybe one he bought by accident when he didnt know better and thought it was a new type of jig. so its at the bottom of it, or he already melted it down to make some jigs. ;D just jokin around.
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I imagine that thjey would be more mad if you DIDN'T keep it. If it's a normal walleye, then big deal. But if it's a blue, then they'll want the DNA.
-Zach
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Well if ever caught keep alive in some sort of set up contact the local athoritys and have them figure out if they want it or not...This way they can still gett he DNA samples without actually killling the fish and maybe even breed it with another one caught or hybrids for that matter. Who knows but still keeping it alive would be the best idea. As DNA can be taken alive or dead but keepign such a Rare Fish alive would be the best bet. Tight lines and just my 2 cents!
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How are you going to do that? ???
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U ARE ALL WRONG, I AM ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT A NORTHERN PIKE THAT IS BLUE. I BELIVE U CAN ONLY FIND THEM IN BACK LAKES NEAR MARTEN RIVER. WHO CARES ABOUT THE STUPID PICKERAL. THE NORTHERNS I AM TALKING ABOUT ARE ACTUALLY BLUE.
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Okay okay, calm down man. No, I have never caught, or seen a blue PIKE. Northern PIKE that is :D ;)
-Zach
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CHECK THIS OUT GUYS, JUST LOOKING FOR A PIC
http://www.martenriverlodge.com/pike.html
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Interesting articles, boild down to the smae name two seperate fish. Cool on both accounts.
Jon
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Thats exactly what I already said about the silver pike. But it's cool though.
-Zach
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Great articles! I had talked to my sister concerning the pike we had caught years back, and got straightened out! She claims that WDNR performed net surveys on the lake back in the 80's. WDNR had caught several of the "blue pike" that I had posted, and claim they are an albinos??? I must admit! These fish were blueish in color, and by no means whiteish/silver? The one sign that is not a mystery was the eye. They claim it's one way to determine the pike's albino trait, go figure? I guess I should have known...
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how did a Walleye become known as a walleyed pike???? A walleye is in the perch family and the pike are in the pike fam with the musky and pickerel...... just curois??????
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There are also yellow pike too. An infisherman (not sure which one) has al linder's brother in a picture after catching a yellow pike.
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Blue Pike, are actually blue walleyes. They are not extinct, they are rare however. They are extinct in Lake Erie though. I can find them in my home state of WI in some rivers such as the WIsconsin and menominee. They can also be found in Canada
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man that is crazi!!!! when i saw the title i was thinking u ppl where out of ur minds but wow that is wasome. :tipup: :tipup:
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My cousin caught one from the samll boat harbor in Buff. a couple of years ago. It was about 30 inches. Neat looking
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D Balm,
Any chance there were any photo's ?
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I caught a northern out of the Hudson River around Waterford in NY. When I pulled him out it looked like he had one of those chamelion paint jobs. It was a beautiful fish, the skin was bluish turquoise depending on how the sun hit it. I had a picture but it got wiped out of my digital camera. I thought it was kind of strange myself but after reading all these posts, it sounds normal.
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looks like a walleye rather than a pike.
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It was a Northern
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so sauger is different than blue walleye then.
saugers are blue?
i caught a bunch of saugers in Northern manitoba on a fly in trip and nobody blinked an eye.
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Blue Pike, are actually blue walleyes. They are not extinct, they are rare however. They are extinct in Lake Erie though. I can find them in my home state of WI in some rivers such as the WIsconsin and menominee. They can also be found in Canada
How do you know what is and is not in Lake Erie? What about that fish they found in the ocean, wasnt it supposed to have lived like 4 million years ago? Dude, just because they are not caught, doesnt mean they arent there. Its kind of like talking about a 200 b&c whitetail, are they there? Yes! Do you see many shot? No. See the connection ???
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Lots of old timers in western NY talk about the Blue Pike. Walleyes, not northerns, they talk about getting both on outings Yellows and Blues. Overharvest was the reason for their decline. Never heard of the Blue/ northerns. Yes different species adapt to their environments and mutate over many years. All adaptations to survive. Wonder why we have out tailbones?? Brings ups creation VS evolution debate..
Need to look into more, maybe BIGRED has some info he is usually pretty knowledgable in the fishery area.
By the way different regional names for the same thing kills me. Black bass, grouse, partridge all have region meanings.
Gets confusing to me.
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this link might help with any confusion ;)http://www.nativefish.org/BluePike/
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Here is an interesting colored Northern that I caught last year at Ft. Peck Reservoir in Montana. And yes, it is a Northern Pike and not a Musky or any other hybrid. 100% Northern Pike.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Icetroll/RichieNorthern.jpg)
Another Pic of the same fish with a better flash from the camera
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/Icetroll/P2110185.jpg)
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So you are looking for a Blue Pike huh!! Well we did catch some Blue Pike in a Ontario Lake called Big Gull. These are a Northern Pike with a blue hugh and very light spots I it almost looked like a Musky but the local cabin owner did say they had some of these fish in that lake. He did not call it a Northern he called it a Blue! When we cleaned it even the meat had a diffrent appearance to it it seemed to me a little more pink than the Regular Northern Pike. Sorry I don't have pictures of the fish though. If my memory is correct we caught at least 3 of these fish during the week we were there.
The other species of blue pike Lake Erie was famous for are from the Walleye family. I can remember years ago of seeing dozens of boats sitting out on Erie with lanterns hanging over the sides. Night time was the time to slam the fish and bushel basket loads came in on a nightly basis off that lake. It wasn't uncommon for a guy to go out and get a hundred a night. Talk about fish pigs huh!
ColdFeet