What is OK to leave on the ice?

[badger132]

With the dearth of snow on the ice, I have learned a lot about what other fishermen  leave behind. I was never aware of so many holes in the ice- I guess now that everyone has a power auger, we can drill a lot more than before. I have seen worm containers, perch blood, remains of fires on the ice, and for the first time "poop". There was a nasty pile, with about half a roll of toilet paper in a soggy puddle on Tuesday. I can only assume that those pop up shacks are used for more than jigging.
Is this OK? Aside from the sanitary issues, is this legal? Is it littering?
 

[IrishnId]

Hell yes it's littering! I catch ya, I'll take pics names locations and vehicle info and blast yet info all over and quick call to the authorities. We've had plenty of problems around my area at a certain popular lake to consider the canal company closing access during the winter  months. Personally I'd like to continue fishing these areas. So if I've gotta be a dink about it, I've got no problems. Fish blood excluded.

[bearlake16]

It’s sad what people think is alright to do on our lakes. I️ just don’t understand there thinking. As far as I’m concerned if you brought it out there take it back with you. Enough said.

[Bearsfan]

Footprints, worm gut splatter and the occasional blood drips. Poop? Those lazy arses should have taken the walk off the ice to the aspens. That's my two cents.

[Ice Scratcher]

Besides truly misplaced/lost items..

A few flung minnows, scales, some sawdust happens, ashes (no butts), blood, spilled coffee, a few other liquids possibly..

Maybe branches for spearing holes..

NOTHING else I can think of..

Anything more you graduate from sportsman to pig..

Including sub par poorly built Smittys on Erie..

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[monkeyman2269]

People poop into the holes up here

[curt69]

I carry several plastic bags with me one for garbage one to put my Catch in . And if I  have to . I put a bag in a bucket , do my business.  Tie a knot  in it and dispose properly.

[hugeinchina]

One of my biggest complaints is the trash I see left on the ice and also on shore after ice out. Pack it in, pack it out. Blood and ashes from smoking do not bug me, but worm containers and stuff like that is just inexcusable. Poop?!? If I ever saw that and caught who it was you can bet your ass I would make sure it was dealt with.

[muskyon46]

I dont mind bait not in containers, sawdust, worm dirt, ashes and especially fish blood. Thats always a good sign for me when rolling up on someones old holes. Everything else pack it out and if you need to use the restroom find one or go above the water line in the trees for goodness sake and bury it. Thats just disgusting

[IceGunner]

Sunflower seeds?  I don't like them but they are common.  Tobacco Juice?  I don't leave either, but I'm guessing there are mixed opinions on these. 

[emmettid]

don't be a litter bug pack it in pack it out,if I catch you I"ll turn you in and if I see you leaving a mess I" jump on you about it right then.

[DR.SPECKLER]

i have been guilty of throwing some crust of my sandwich out the door of my shanty every once in a while but the bird take that away.i have picked up cig butts,propane tanks, chip bags. beer cans all kinds of garbage.i also have picked up jigs,augers covers and ice scoops.i leave holes in the ice only.

[Snitch#8]

I think there are some differences in what I considered trash.  MY rule of thumb is if its organic and will add to the food chain, it can stay.  I'm not talking about piles of garbage but the occasional sandwich crust, apple core or banana peel, is fine.  I would certainly get laughed at if I told some of the guys I fish with that they had to clean up the fish blood they put on the ice!  If you catch a limit of 8 walleye, you are certainly going to get some blood on the ice.  Most guys I fish with cut the gills on walleye to bleed them out.  This is done in the summer in a boat or winter on the ice.  If we caught a limit and bled them out on the ice, it, would look like the St. Valentines Day Massacre.  I don't recommend this practice because it is certainly a good indication that fish had been caught there.  Come back in a few days and its guaranteed someone if not many people will be in or near your holes.  However, I do bleed them out into my fishing hole.  If your 12 miles out on Lake Huron, your not walking to the woods to take a dump.  I do like the bag in the bucket idea.  I actually have a toilet seat the fits on a 5 or 6 gallon bucket.  It goes with me summer or winter!  As for the trash IE, worm containers, cigarette butts, beer cans water bottles, etc., etc., etc.  that is littering and should be dealt with accordingly.  My son and I carry a trash bag and always, always, always, pick it up for proper disposal.  Some so called sportsmen are truly pigs and many nice fishing spots have been closed because of it.

[hooknhunter]

Sorry guys. I have to pee about every 30 - 60 minutes. I'm leaving some yellow snow or ice almost everywhere I stop. Call me a pig for that if you want...... I really don't care.


As for having a bowel movement, there is no way I'm heading back 1 - 2 miles to do my business. I drill a partial hole, do it, then cover with the slush. This might happen once or twice a year at most. If that is un-acceptable and you are going to jump my $hi# about it, better bring friends. If you get too obnoxious about it, better bring lots of ammo too. I'm out to fish, not fight. But I'm not gonna take a lot of flack from someone either.......


Pick up anything not easily bio-degradable (including cigarette butts, please).


Go ahead and blast away. I'm not gonna monitor this thread anymore anyway.


Signed,
The pig.

[Duck-Slayer]

Sorry guys. I have to pee about every 30 - 60 minutes. I'm leaving some yellow snow or ice almost everywhere I stop. Call me a pig for that if you want...... I really don't care.


As for having a bowel movement, there is no way I'm heading back 1 - 2 miles to do my business. I drill a partial hole, do it, then cover with the slush. This might happen once or twice a year at most. If that is un-acceptable and you are going to jump my $hi# about it, better bring friends. If you get too obnoxious about it, better bring lots of ammo too. I'm out to fish, not fight. But I'm not gonna take a lot of flack from someone either.......


Pick up anything not easily bio-degradable (including cigarette butts, please).


Go ahead and blast away. I'm not gonna monitor this thread anymore anyway.


Signed,
The pig.
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Yep agree.... LOL
Matt

[badger132]

I agree there is a range- blood and scales on the ice used to be my fish finder. I also fish more than 1 bladder time constant, and really don't think that is noticable after the fact. There are so many of us on some lakes that we are having a larger impact, so I think it is time to start thinking about the next guy.
There are a lot of bucket toilets, and you can get little liners with a gel to absorb the liquid, and it all rolls up into a ziplock and seals up for taking home for disposal. For emergencies, this little  bag could be used in one of your ice fishing buckets, and taken home. It seems like with the hundreds of pounds of gear we are willing to drag for comfort and to help us catch more fish, this would be negligible. 

[IdahoSkies]

If I wouldn't leave it backpacking, it shouldn't be left on the ice.  Sanitation is a real concern, lakes and ponds get closed because of high bacteria count. 

And yea, its littering. 

[SirCranksalot]

As for having a bowel movement, there is no way I'm heading back 1 - 2 miles to do my business. I drill a partial hole, do it, then cover with the slush.



Signed,
The pig.

How hard is it to put turds in a plastic bag, esp once they are frozen solid???

[hugeinchina]

How hard is it to put turds in a plastic bag, esp once they are frozen solid???

My opinion? If he thought this behavior was acceptable he would not have amended his original post to add the caveat about it only being once or twice a year. 

[Stickhick86]

Foot prints and drag marks from the sled

[FG Steve]

OK to leave?  Holes, fish blood, footprints, sled marks.  Not trash or litter of any kind and certainly not poo.     

And not my pocket knife!  Although that has happened a few times. 

Yellow snow: At least "put" it on the shore away from traffic.

Poo: Pack it out.  The bucket toilets are absolutely not my favorite, but it's that or a snowmobile ride to the facilities, for me and those with me.

[SirCranksalot]

Yellow snow: At least "put" it on the shore away from traffic.

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Unlike turds, pee is fairly sterile. Unsightly, so kick snow over it.

[DR.SPECKLER]

I don't care if you piss and poo on the ice your a pig.pee in a milk jug and crap in a bucket.thats kind of why I don't like the early morning drinkers pissing all over and probably got diarrhea from pabst blue ribbon.im sure home owners on the lake just love looking out the window drinking coffee looking out at a toilet on ice.jmo flame me if you want.im cool with keeping the lakes clean is all.

[Snitch#8]

I don't care if you piss and poo on the ice your a pig.pee in a milk jug and crap in a bucket.thats kind of why I don't like the early morning drinkers pissing all over and probably got diarrhea from pabst blue ribbon.im sure home owners on the lake just love looking out the window drinking coffee looking out at a toilet on ice.jmo flame me if you want.im cool with keeping the lakes clean is all.

If a homeowner can see me peeing from his house, when I'm 11 miles out on Saginaw Bay, I'm way bigger then I thought I was!  Enough said.

[SirCranksalot]

Quite!! Where we go there is nobody except maybe a couple more fishermen!! A non-issue IMO

[Adventure]

From few years back when going up Mt Whitney, Rangers gave everyone a little plastic bag thats for #2 use. Very light, few ounces, as every ounce counts on such mountain trips. Bags are/were  sanitary, supposedly developed for special forces to not leave DNA or any indicators. Park Rangers gave them out for free, many if asked, still have few.

After use, bag is locked up, no smell, and is carried out if park/mountain and disposed.

Im sure they're available commercialy, if I'm not mistaken, I'll have to find once current supply is used up.

Edit: found samilar ones on Amz, 6 for under $20, might be good idea to take a few with rest of gear. Not sure if links allowed, they're called
 "Cleanwaste Wag Bags Toilet Kit Pack of 6" for $18 on Amazon.

[Amik]

The grandson and I were walking off the ice today at Montpellier Res. and came across some holes with a dozen or more perch left on the ice by some slob. Pissed me off. Pissed me off more because I had to explain to an 8 yr old why grown people would do this.

[Walleyewacker007]

If I find fish on my way back(that weren't there on the way in) like perch I'm putting in my bucket! If I find some trash fish or if they look off in any way....eagle bait. I have never had to poop while on the ice, however I bring a few plastic shopping bags (fred Meyer) and some wetwipes just in case. The bags come in handy for trash, picking up after my dog and holding worm containers to help keep dirt out of the cooler. As far as taking a piss, first I like to piss on the ice, then I wait for it to freeze, it is much easier to scrape up and carry out like a lemonade slushy in a cup afterwards. JK!- I piss on the ice like a real man, just not in front of anyone.

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