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Ice Fishing Tips -Check your local regulations! => Equipment => Ice Augers => Topic started by: nubote on Nov 28, 2014, 09:41 AM
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Did a search. So far, I found a guy welded up a lathe chuck, and another guy took it in to a custom machine shop. I already have the adapter to go drill to hand auger. Has anybody else found a way to get the nils on clam plate?
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Yeah, I'm pretty curious too. I have the plate on order and it should be here either today or tomorrow. I want to pair it up with my 8inch Nils.
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I was hoping to make something out of random sizes of pipe, but nothing really fit. I may have to use the drill adapter and nils drill and sell the clam plate.
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I'm pretty sure that I am going to end up going to a machine shop and have them Make me an adapter. I really don't know what else to about it.... Well besides buying a different auger. I just don't see that happening though. As far as I am concerned, these is no such thing as a better auger than the one I have right now.
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see if this will work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nils-Ice-auger-cordless-drill-adapter-/171471307070?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ec7c813e
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see if this will work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nils-Ice-auger-cordless-drill-adapter-/171471307070?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27ec7c813e
That won't get the clam plate onto the nils. This is a knockoff of the adapter I already have.
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I ended up making an adapter that worked really well, after i posted this picture i ended up cutting off the end of my auger shaft and made another adapter that will fit my Nils, its just like the one you get when you buy a clam plate
http://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=293553.0
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I really don't know why Clam doesn't offer adapters for different augers. I have have converted my Nils to the Clam plate. I used a 2/12 " x 3/4 " black iron pipe use for gas piping. By cutting aprox 5/16 " out of the diameter and by rounding over a mandrel and reforming it fits excellent. I then welded 3 - 1" set bearings together ( these can be purchased at most hardware stores) The nice thing about the set bearings they have threaded set screws which will allow you to lock on to the Nils. I then welded the newly formed pipe to the set bearings. I did the same set up to adapt my 6" mora to the Clam . I tried them out yesterday and they both work great. Although I own a Sheetmetal shop and have access to the equipment and material and am retired and do enjoy tinkering this was a lot of work.
If I had to do it again I think I would probably job it out to a Machinist. I got to say the Clam plate adapter, Milwaukee fuel , and Nils auger worked awesome. I think I'll leave the old 3 hp Eskimo on the shelf for a while.
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I just dropped my 8" Nils and the shaft from the Clam plate off at the machine shop today. I can't wait to see what he comes up with.
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Nils adapter available - directly to drill. May give this a shot.
http://www.fishusa.com/Product/Ice-Master-Ice-Auger-Power-Drill-Conversion-Kit
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I just dropped my 8" Nils and the shaft from the Clam plate off at the machine shop today. I can't wait to see what he comes up with.
let us know how it turned out
What drill you running with this setup
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It should be done today. I'll keep you posted. I'm going to run it on a Milwaukee Fuel drill. Boy that chuck was hard to remove. lol
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Well, it seems like it should work out just fine. A simple sleeve to marry the two together. I got it all together with the drill then noticed the bearing on the clam plate was cocked. Took it all back down and straightened it out..... Put it all back together and tada! The bearing is cocked again. Whatever yo, I'll run it as soon as it isn't 50 degrees out and we get some ice. Until then I'll just wait it out.
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Well, it seems like it should work out just fine. A simple sleeve to marry the two together. I got it all together with the drill then noticed the bearing on the clam plate was cocked. Took it all back down and straightened it out..... Put it all back together and tada! The bearing is cocked again. Whatever yo, I'll run it as soon as it isn't 50 degrees out and we get some ice. Until then I'll just wait it out.
You got a pic? I just ordered an 8inch Nils off of cabelas gonna try it on the clam plate.
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Agronomist you have quite a bit tied up into cutting a hole in the ice.. I remember a sweet running model 30 video you made where is that machine?
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Agronomist you have quite a bit tied up into cutting a hole in the ice.. I remember a sweet running model 30 video you made where is that machine?
In the garage 😄👍, hey a guy needs back ups. 😱
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get some tubing with a one inch inside diameter and two bolts to fit the clam plate and nils auger . and make a adaptor with two holes like this one for my lacko that slip over the nil's auger and the other slips over the shaft of the clam plate. then just run the bolts threw them. i got to get smaller bolts to use on mine.. by the way i used 1 inch emt or electrical metallic tubing to make the adaptor about 8 inches long
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/nilsadapter001_zps1eb1ca2a.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/nilsadapter001_zps1eb1ca2a.jpg.html)
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Thanks,
I'll have to do that when the nils comes.
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I'll get some 1 inch emt and give it a try. Did you insert some kind of sleeve to go over the plate connecting rod, because it's much less than 1 inch OD?
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get some tubing with a one inch inside diameter and two bolts to fit the clam plate and nils auger . and make a adaptor with two holes like this one for my lacko that slip over the nil's auger and the other slips over the shaft of the clam plate. then just run the bolts threw them. i got to get smaller bolts to use on mine.. by the way i used 1 inch emt or electrical metallic tubing to make the adaptor about 8 inches long
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/nilsadapter001_zps1eb1ca2a.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/nilsadapter001_zps1eb1ca2a.jpg.html)
Problem is you end up 5 ft tall.
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Looks good , hope its works out for you
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Looks perfect. What did it cost?
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He wacked me for 70 bucks.... Kinda pricey, but still cheaper than buying a different auger and an extension.
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He wacked me for 70 bucks.... Kinda pricey, but still cheaper than buying a different auger and an extension.
OMG! Serious?
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Does anyone know if Ice Gator's Nils adapter will work on the clam plate?
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OMG! Serious?
I would say that's sounds about right for pricing, without materials 70.00 is an average for one hour shop rate cost
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OMG! Serious?
Yeah. $60 in labor and $10 in parts. I should've taken more pictures of it when it was all apart. He put a decent amount of work into it.
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Does anyone know if Ice Gator's Nils adapter will work on the clam plate?
Disclaimer: I don't have one so I don't know for sure... but I'll try to help you out anyway.
The Ice Gator Nils adapter won't work with the clam plate. Ice gator lists adapters for every clockwise auger bit except for Strikemaster and Eskimo power auger bits. That's because IGs don't need an adapter to be used with Strikemaster or Eskimo power auger bits. They all have the same output shaft, which I believe is 7/8" non-threaded.
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I'll get some 1 inch emt and give it a try. Did you insert some kind of sleeve to go over the plate connecting rod, because it's much less than 1 inch OD?
i just threw it on top of the nim rod connecting rod it seems to work good i got to wait to play with the clam plate i got coming Saturday.. i am sure you could sleeve it easily if needed like brass, tube ,dom, or some thing ..
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Did the 1inch emt work?
Just got to open my 8in blue nils hand auger, and was gonna pair it up with my clam dril plate. Need to make an adaptor. Figure if the 1inch emt tube works I could make one in about 1min.
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Did the 1inch emt work?
Just got to open my 8in blue nils hand auger, and was gonna pair it up with my clam dril plate. Need to make an adaptor. Figure if the 1inch emt tube works I could make one in about 1min.
the 1 inch emt fit over the regular laser adapters which convert them to nils adapters with wiggle room for the laser adaptor but tight for the nils auger. all i got left is to open my clam plate tomorrow morning... then i will let you know if it fits after that this picture is of my blue 8 inch nils with 1 inch emt sleeved over it. if the clam auger adaptor is smaller then the laser it mite need a sleeve in side the emt? like i said i don't know yet will know in a day or two. i already got to open my 6 inch nils that my sister gave me tonight tomorrow i open the clam adaptor plate.
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/nilsadapter001_zps1eb1ca2a.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/nilsadapter001_zps1eb1ca2a.jpg.html)
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I'll get some 1 inch emt and give it a try. Did you insert some kind of sleeve to go over the plate connecting rod, because it's much less than 1 inch OD?
that what i am thinking i will have to do. like a piece of d.o.m. tubing thick wall just got to measure it and drill some hole and cut it to length... and i should be good....
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that what i am thinking i will have to do. like a piece of d.o.m. tubing thick wall just got to measure it and drill some hole and cut it to length... and i should be good....
Well can't say for sure, but it looks like that's all the machinist did in a pervious post. I'll save the $60 and do my own if possible.
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just check this dom i had out it is 1 inch out side diameter dom with a 3/4 inch inside diameter for the dom needed. it fits perfectly for the laser adaptor it is 1/8 inch wall dom tubing the kind use in race car building of roll cages just a different sizes... if you need a link to some leave a message i can find you a on line supplier up here. this dom i said fit the "1 inch in side diameter emt" see picture..
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/rhino13357/domadaptorpic001_zps7220564f.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/rhino13357/media/domadaptorpic001_zps7220564f.jpg.html)
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basically same stuff i got is item # T21120 at link below...
http://www.metalsdepot.com/products/hrsteel2.phtml?page=rndtube
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Disclaimer: I don't have one so I don't know for sure... but I'll try to help you out anyway.
The Ice Gator Nils adapter won't work with the clam plate. Ice gator lists adapters for every clockwise auger bit except for Strikemaster and Eskimo power auger bits. That's because IGs don't need an adapter to be used with Strikemaster or Eskimo power auger bits. They all have the same output shaft, which I believe is 7/8" non-threaded.
I happen to know with some minor modification or filing down the adapter one could get the Nils bit to fit the Strikemaster Solo powerhead shaft using the Ice Gator adapter for Nils. If the shaft for ice gator is the same or similar to the strikemaster and Eskimo shafts then it may possibly work.
This may sound dumb but why not use PVC pipe to make an adapter? Will the material be too weak, not hold and shatter?
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Will the material be too weak, not hold and shatter?
answered it your self to much torque on pvc tube...
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basically same stuff i got is item # T21120 at link below...
http://www.metalsdepot.com/products/hrsteel2.phtml?page=rndtube
Thanks for the site, but I'm just gonna go to the hardware store or machine shop in town to get the pipe/tubing/emt stuff to make the adaptor. I dont wana spend more on the tube for shipping then the tube is worth.
If i get lucky the guys at the machine shop might just whip up an adaptor free of charge from some old pipe scrap laying around. 🙏
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Well for those that need an adaptor but dont have acess to tools or a shop. This is being sold on ebay.
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q1/agronomist_at_IA/2b833d6433c48ab57cd43e2f473c67fc_zps70fde98b.jpg)
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I kind of gave up on this, due to not finding parts to do this myself. I resigned myself to just using the ice master drill adapter. Maybe I'll pick up one of these to use the clam plate. Thanks.
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I had to go to a meeting and didn't have time to make/look for parts to make adaptor. So, I ordered the adaptor off the bay. You'll need one course threaded bolt to attach to the clam plate, and I found the perfect size pin to attach to the nils.
(http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q1/agronomist_at_IA/0A877C4F-0617-4BD7-BC43-9140A19B91AB_zpsyflo2cxv.jpg)
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I found the perfect size pin to attach to the nils
Where did you find the pin?
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Where did you find the pin?
At the local bomgaars they have a nut and bolt bin area. Above that area they have plastic boxes of all kinds of weird stuff like these pins, weird bolts/nuts, and other stuff like springs.
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Took out the milwaukee / nils 8in today. Turned it with no problem, and the nils was smooth, doesn't catch at all on the bottom of the hole like a lazer does.
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Took out the milwaukee / nils 8in today. Turned it with no problem, and the nils was smooth, doesn't catch at all on the bottom of the hole like a lazer does.
This is why I also went with using a Nils auger
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This is why I also went with using a Nils auger
Didn't realize just how long the auger was, heck I don't think a guy would need an extention for the nils.
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Didn't realize just how long the auger was, heck I don't think a guy would need an extention for the nils.
Not sure what your talking about. I'm not using an extension
I do like your quick release pin you came up with
My Setup
(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y346/jimfisherman/Auger_zps0457a60b.jpg) (http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/jimfisherman/media/Auger_zps0457a60b.jpg.html)
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I just tried to buy the adapter off the bay. Would cost over 80 bucks to get it up here in Canada. The site won't let me send it to a US address even tho I provided a US shipping address. >:(
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Took out the milwaukee / nils 8in today. Turned it with no problem, and the nils was smooth, doesn't catch at all on the bottom of the hole like a lazer does.
I have tried drilling in 6"-8" of ice with my Lazer 8" bit and it also does not bind or catch at the bottom. However my 7" lazer and the 6" clam does. This has left me scratching my head. lol.
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Not sure what your talking about. I'm not using an extension
I do like your quick release pin you came up with
My Setup
(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y346/jimfisherman/Auger_zps0457a60b.jpg) (http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/jimfisherman/media/Auger_zps0457a60b.jpg.html)
Did the orange nils just slip over the clam bit? Nice setup.
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I have tried drilling in 6"-8" of ice with my Lazer 8" bit and it also does not bind or catch at the bottom. However my 7" lazer and the 6" clam does. This has left me scratching my head. lol.
My 7in lazer would catch, but if I lift up on it at the bottom it would break through fine. I will say I think my 7in lazer is faster, but it is cutting an inch less then the nils.
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Just tried out my clam plate with Dewalt 790 on with a 6" nils. HOLY CATS. Talk about fast, smooth, and efficient. I'm in love with this set up. Would definitely recommend getting the nils auger!
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Ready2fish please tell about your setup. I see that is the "orange nils" which is the drill chuck model. Did you just saw the top off and it fits good into the hollow tube? That would be great.
I have the icegator adapter and its too big. It would've fit too loosely on the clam adapter.
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Ready2fish please tell about your setup. I see that is the "orange nils" which is the drill chuck model. Did you just saw the top off and it fits good into the hollow tube? That would be great.
I have the icegator adapter and its too big. It would've fit too loosely on the clam adapter.
Yes I did cut the end off just below the round plate, it was very easy, the hard part was I had to machine up a new adapter for a nice slip fit, the one that come with the clam plate has a smaller diameter
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I have tried drilling in 6"-8" of ice with my Lazer 8" bit and it also does not bind or catch at the bottom. However my 7" lazer and the 6" clam does. This has left me scratching my head. lol.
I have the 6" clam auger , and when it goes thru just pull it up , no sticking, if you let it go all the way it will pull you to your knees, so when its about to go thru as soon as it does lift up, no problem!!
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Yeah ready2fish I just looked at my nils, took the blade off. The tube is approx 3/4" id, the adapter is 5/8". That's cool you were able to make a bushing.
I'm gonna order that eBay adapter. I was at a machine shop earlier and it sounded like he wanted to charge me way too much. "Well thats gonna take some time to make. I don't really have the stock..." I think he was trying to soak me for him to stay busy during his slow season. Too bad, I was thinking about having a run made for ebay. His loss.
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Did a search. So far, I found a guy welded up a lathe chuck, and another guy took it in to a custom machine shop. I already have the adapter to go drill to hand auger. Has anybody else found a way to get the nils on clam plate?
I used the adapter for the nils got apiece of pipe that was a hair loose on the clam leveled it and welded done 6 bucks
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I'll get some 1 inch emt and give it a try. Did you insert some kind of sleeve to go over the plate connecting rod, because it's much less than 1 inch OD?
wrapped some electrical tape on shaft to make up the difference
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I think the nils will be the best set up for the clam it works so well on hand auger with no effort got the 6 inch may buy the 8 next year
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Is it just me or is the adapter for the nils onto the clam adapter is not very tight fitting? I noticed alot of play on it and theres no way I will run it like that. This adapter is my buddys and I recommended him to the ebay seller with out knowing about the problem. Whats the best way to compensate for the gap so theres no wobble and does the ebay seller know about this?
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the clam plate to Nils auger adapter on Ebay has been fixed I called the guy and he said he found a batch of oversized adapters
the new ones are already available there was .050 of play on the adapter now .012 to .020 . he said he is using a mock shaft of the clam plate now so this dos not happen. the item number for the adapter is 181618210257 half the price of getting it done at a machine shop
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i just ordered the ebay adapter yesterday and hope i got one of the new proper fitting ones, cause after i ordered he sent me message asking me to let him know how it fits!
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just got my adapter today, and it has at least 1/16th of an inch play and i don't think it can be run that loose.
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I got mine in on Saturday and it is the revised one, it fits a lot better but haven't drilled with it yet. Will report back when I put it to use this weekend.
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i contacted him and another of the revised adapters is on the way.
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got new adapter today in mail and fits perfect.
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Hey all who run a clam plate with a Nils...refreshing this ancient thread to make sure I get the right adapter.
Can any of you say for certain what adapter I'm going to need for the 8" aqua blue Nils if I get a clam plate? I'm going to pair the setup with a Milwaukee fuel 18v brushless drill. I want to be part of the silent hole ripping club!
Thanks in advance for your replies! I want to make sure I get this right from the get go.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nils-Ice-Auger-Adapter-to-Clam-Plate/183007882420?epid=1254072021&hash=item2a9c1eacb4:g:YMQAAOSwhcNaVBnm
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nils-Ice-Auger-Adapter-to-Clam-Plate/183007882420?epid=1254072021&hash=item2a9c1eacb4:g:YMQAAOSwhcNaVBnm
x2. Works great.
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nils-Ice-Auger-Adapter-to-Clam-Plate/183007882420?epid=1254072021&hash=item2a9c1eacb4:g:YMQAAOSwhcNaVBnm
That's the one I got. Not the tightest fit. but it works fine.
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I have the same adapter that is on eBay. I got the bolts that was recommended in description and there seems to be a lot of play. Maybe if seller included the bolt that fit adapter to clam plate it wouldn't wobble so much.
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(https://s18.postimg.cc/ccds0vomt/20180102_161156.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ccds0vomt/)
I know a guy that makes them 😉
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(https://s18.postimg.cc/ccds0vomt/20180102_161156.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/ccds0vomt/)
I know a guy that makes them 😉
What does he charge?
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What does he charge?
I'm guessing $32 shipped....like on ebay