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Title: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use em 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: DasRottweiler on Sep 15, 2009, 05:32 PM: Been trying new places to trap minnows/shiners for hardwater cuz my usual shiner spots have slowed down.
I caught upwards of 50 of these minnows, mostly 1"-2 1/2", and a few 4" ones today. They look like what we used to call "Tommycods" . The real name for Tommycod is Killifish and is a legal baitfish in NH. I`m pretty confident that is what they are but not 100 percent. The pictures are not that good ( gittin a new camera for x-mas) . Anyone use these in hardwater and are they Killifish/Tommycods????
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DasRottweiler/Fathayds.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DasRottweiler/Fathayds1.jpg)

and sum of the lil ones on my cooler lid(they are about 1 1/2-2")
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DasRottweiler/Fathayds3.jpg)
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use me 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 15, 2009, 05:58 PM: Killfish have red along the end of there fins.. If not killfish could they be fathead minnows?
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use me 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: Thumber on Sep 15, 2009, 06:55 PM: Das

I am pretty sure they are not Tommy Cods, If I can remember right tommy cods have 2 or 3 upper fins. Like you said the photos do not really show them that well, They could be Eastern Shiners or Creek Chups.
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use me 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: ice 45 on Sep 15, 2009, 09:08 PM: I don't know about the top ones but the ones on the bottom look like fatheads
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use me 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: topher7694 on Sep 15, 2009, 09:24 PM: I agree on the third pic being fatheads...and the second pic looks to me like a plain ol' sucker...that's my guess ???
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use me 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: DasRottweiler on Sep 15, 2009, 10:26 PM: Stay tuned! I`ll git betta pics manyana! I did throw 4 traps in these ponds so I`ll pull em tommorrow and take sum pics of what I git.
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use me 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: TravP on Sep 15, 2009, 10:41 PM: fatheads
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use em 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: james on Sep 16, 2009, 11:26 AM: copy this link in your browser http://www.lcbp.org/PDFs/BaitfishGuide2005.pdf

for some reason i cant make a link to it.
but anyways theres some good pics of minnows if you scroll down to page ten.

james
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use em 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: Thumber on Sep 16, 2009, 01:18 PM: James

This site has some good info all so
http://www.cnr.vt.edu/efish/families/fathead.html (http://www.cnr.vt.edu/efish/families/fathead.html)
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use em 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: IceManBran on Sep 16, 2009, 01:29 PM: They look like fatheads to me too. GREAT walleye bait, but if you can't use them, send em my way. :]
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use em 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: DasRottweiler on Sep 16, 2009, 03:17 PM: Ya ,apparently I gutta toss em all back! I didn`t see em on the list of legal baitfish to use in NH. They are too small anyways. Goldens are what I`m lookin for. I went today and retrieved my traps- everyone was full of em.
I snapped sum pics, hopefully they are better than the others.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DasRottweiler/Fatheads.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DasRottweiler/Fatheads3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DasRottweiler/Fatheads8.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DasRottweiler/Fatheads1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/DasRottweiler/Fatheads2.jpg)
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use em 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: ice 45 on Sep 16, 2009, 04:41 PM: sure look like fatheads to me
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use em 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: jibbs on Sep 16, 2009, 05:28 PM: if they are illegal that is too bad......i would bet a good ole largie wouldn't mind eating one of them......good luck with the trapping......
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use em 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: JDN on Sep 21, 2009, 08:17 PM: One of those shiners looks like a brindle that blew up when it ate your bait.Dark line running down body.I catch them in my traps few towns over from you.Bet you caught them in a shallow pond.
Title: Re: What r these lil Fishies? and can I use me 4 Bait in NH??
Post by: DasRottweiler on Sep 21, 2009, 08:30 PM: Quote from: DasRottweiler on Sep 15, 2009, 07:15 PM
I should have mentioned that I trapped these fellas up outta a brown stained pond with zero water flow/ current- used to be clay pits for a brick factory way back in late 1700s and early 1800s. Shallow -lotsa wood.
I do not think these are creekchubs, unless they are a different species of them .The first thing I thought when I seen the bigger ones was that they looked alot like a Snakehead I had once.The lil ones do appear to be lil versions of the bigger ones-same tail config and FAT when viewed from above. The word " Fathayd " did pop into mind, are they indigenous to NH?, and also on the list of usable bait? I tossed em in the tank , I`ll have to fish one of the bigger ones out and get sum better pics for yall tommorrow. Should be fun , with over 12 dozen minnows in there. Hmmm, maybe make a lil-mini electro shocker! (wheelz aspinnin!).
The lil ones and the big ones are the same species, I believe. At the very least , all the lil ones are definately the same.
If they are Bridle Shiners,(Notropis bifrenantus), they were removed from the list of usable bait as of 2009.(NH)