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Title: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 24, 2017, 08:27 AM
OK!  When your on the ice,  your Iphone is useful to call home or help.  But, depending on it as your primary photo captures is a poor choice.  I carry Minolta SLR because it stores lots of high quality pictures  or videos on an SD card that down loads to my computer ever evening.   I'm amazed at the quality small cameras available at low prices.   If you can afford you're Iphone minutes and dozens of apps I'm sure you can afford a good camera that will allow you to post great pictures during the coming ice season.  Might be a great thing to put on your Christmas list?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Agronomist_at_IA on Sep 24, 2017, 08:35 AM
OK!  When your on the ice,  your Iphone is useful to call home or help.  But, depending on it as your primary photo captures is a poor choice.  I carry Minolta SLR because it stores lots of high quality pictures  or videos on an SD card that down loads to my computer ever evening.   I'm amazed at the quality small cameras available at low prices.   If you can afford you're Iphone minutes and dozens of apps I'm sure you can afford a good camera that will allow you to post great pictures during the coming ice season.  Might be a great thing to put on your Christmas list?
Dick

What IPhone are you using? My 7+ takes photos that are great, and even show up great on a 1080 55in tv. I don't understand why you would want a camera? Cameras have gone the way of a pager, corded home phone, and the way sat. cable tv is going.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 24, 2017, 09:48 AM
 ??? Phones take OK pictures,  but I have yet to see a phone photo used as magazine cover or story leading page?    I'm afraid the time has come when many people feel naked in the wilderness without an Iphone to lead them, and entertain them while on the ice?
Why do I picture you at the dinner table with phone in hand sliding your thumbs as fast as they will move?  Kind of sad compared to years past when we would sip beer and tell old fishing stories?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: missoulafish on Sep 24, 2017, 11:27 AM
are we talking about picture capability or the cell phone generation? A good camera is awesome but it will never have the convenience of a smart phone...
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: jethro on Sep 24, 2017, 11:40 AM
When my friends and family ask me advice on cameras, which they do since I make money with my camera, I always start the conversation the same way... The first thing to determine is not the physical act of taking the photo at all, rather the 1st question should be- "How do you want to display your photos?" If all you are ever going to do with your images is post on Facebook or internet chat rooms/forums, where your viewers are generally going to be viewing at best 1080p, then your iPhone or Samsung is going to be ok. Yes, you will lack a great deal of dynamic range and any control over depth of field will be more or less artificially generated, but your viewers will not usually criticize a good image because of it. But if you have any plans of printing your images and displaying in a physical album or of course enlarging to 10x20 you need to consider a more capable imaging device.

Any discussion of imaging technology needs to being with that question, period. From there the next answer is either very easy or somewhat more complicated!
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 24, 2017, 03:50 PM
 ::) Hard to argue with Doc?   Its been a long time since I sold stories and pictures to outdoor magazines.   OK!  I've moved beyond my 35MM camera and even gave up on my old flip phone.   But when I got my new Nikon Coolpix digital I found how much I missed my
DSLR camera.  Just as with the TV screen viewer of an Iphone  I find it hard to quickly zoom, frame and stop photos that I hope might provide memories worth keeping!  I once did a Conn. River trout fishing story.  A good friend who was a professional drift guide gave me some of his best rainbow trout pictures.  I provided them with some that I had taken with my old Instamatic?   They used his photos as the glossy front page as well as the header for the story page.  He got $500 for the front page and $200 for the header photos!!
I've reviewed the Iphone 7 plus and it would be a great purchase if didn't always carry both a phone and a camera.   My phone is always in an inside jacket pocket and my camera is stowed in my pack basket.  Not much extra weight?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Chris338378 on Sep 24, 2017, 04:19 PM
I'm sure there's a lot of guys who will agree with me in saying, we're ice fishermen not professional photographers and the odds of the vast majority of us selling a picture to some magazine are pretty much slim and none with none being the truth.  Yeah a camera is nice but I'd rather spend my time fishing and snapping a quick picture with my phone rather than setting up some photo shoot on the ice when I can be catching more fish.  Considering the number of members here compared to the number of members who actually post pictures there's not a lot that even post pictures and if they "have to" use a camera there'll be even less posting pictures.  Sure it's nice advice but I don't see the members here running out the buy a camera just to post pictures on this or any other site.  I know I'd buy more jigs and gear long before I did that and I'm pretty sure it's safe to say there's a lot of others who'd say and do the same thing.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: missoulafish on Sep 24, 2017, 04:20 PM
i do agree about the abilities of a real camera far outweighing a phone/camera. Every once in a while I get a great picture on my phone only to realize if I ever wanted to use that picture somehow, I will be unable to blow it up to a suitable size. I keep saying I need to go back to carrying my camera....
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 24, 2017, 06:36 PM
Wow! If I lived in Montana I would probably have my camera with all the time!  Wonderful place.
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Agronomist_at_IA on Sep 24, 2017, 08:16 PM
Technology moves right along. A computer use to be the size of a room. Now it is the size of a phone. Reality is the camera phone has improved a lot and will continue to. The digital platform is way to easy and handy to use. I doubt anyone under the age of 25 actually owns a stand alone camera.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 25, 2017, 09:41 AM
 ??? OK!  I admit that my first experience with a computer was feeding punch cards into a room size, glass enclosed main frame.   Still something sad about watching a group of people standing side by side while sliding fingers up and down an Iphone?   
Auto focus is still faster for digital cameras.  8 megapixel Iphones are wonderfull as long as I  can see the screen without my reading glasses and hold still with my shaky hands and compensate for the lack of optical zoom?   
I'm talking about ice fishing with no net reception and minimal Cell phone reception?
What is it that Iphone/icefishermen attain other than games and home connection?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: OldSailor on Sep 25, 2017, 09:47 AM
You don't need net reception to take pictures, and for the vast majority of people on here, the quality of those pictures are just fine! There are other things for ice fishing that you would be better off spending money on! I think we're riding a dead horse here!!!
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Hottuna5150 on Sep 25, 2017, 03:54 PM
I use my phone for navionics, camera and to crank the allman bros on the ice.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 25, 2017, 04:32 PM
 ??? Ok.  If not for a camera ??  How do I get Navionics for my Samsung android?   Not an app that I see available?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Coffin Dodger on Sep 25, 2017, 04:39 PM
I agree with Chris and Old Sailor!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned....while Ol' Dick is fumbling around for his fancy camera, how's that fish's survival chances?
 
If it's a pile of fish destined for the pan or not, I have no issues with the pic quality I've seen here.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: missoulafish on Sep 25, 2017, 04:48 PM
https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Navionics
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 25, 2017, 04:53 PM
I never had aspersions of being  Ansel Adams anyway , for fishing and a few other things the phone is much more practical
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: OldSailor on Sep 25, 2017, 04:56 PM
I never had aspersions  to be Ansel Adams anyway , for fishing and a few other things the phone is much more practical
And you can't call home on your camera!!! ;)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: aquarium234 on Sep 25, 2017, 05:04 PM
I always carry an extra camera to take pictures cuz I like to make picture books of my things don't get me wrong I take a lot of pictures with my cell phone to to share but there's nothing beating a real camera taking the photo I just keep a camera in the front pocket of my coat
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Hottuna5150 on Sep 25, 2017, 05:20 PM
??? Ok.  If not for a camera ??  How do I get Navionics for my Samsung android?   Not an app that I see available?
Dick

Unfortunately I'm not familiar with android, and I'm not particularly tech savy :/
Sorry Dick

Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: OldSailor on Sep 25, 2017, 05:23 PM
For the use you specified, there is nothing better than a good camera. We aren't arguing that, a camera has it's place!! And good cameras are compact enough to fit in a pocket with no problem! To each their own!! :)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 25, 2017, 05:29 PM
Dick try google play you'll find what your looking for
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 25, 2017, 06:38 PM
I always carry an extra camera to take pictures cuz I like to make picture books of my things don't get me wrong I take a lot of pictures with my cell phone to to share but there's nothing beating a real camera taking the photo I just keep a camera in the front pocket of my coat

Love it when some one finally agrees with me.   Six ounces of camera doesn't seem like a big inconvenience?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Agronomist_at_IA on Sep 25, 2017, 07:14 PM
Love it when some one finally agrees with me.   Six ounces of camera doesn't seem like a big inconvenience?
Dick

It's not. 8-10yrs ago I bought a digital camera because it was so much better then the original cameras on the phones. Today though here is what my I Phone 7+ can do.

The iPhone 7 and iPhone 7 Plus are equipped with 12MP rear-facing cameras with ƒ/1.8 aperture and a 7-megapixel FaceTime HD Camera. These cameras are capable of recording 4K video at 30 fps, 1080p HD video at 30 fps or 60 fps and 720p HD video at 30 fps. 8MP stills can be captured while 4K video recording is in progress.

Both models include optical image stabilization (OIS) and video stabilization, a Quad-LED True Tone flash and the ability to shoot 63-megapixel panorama photos.

The iPhone 7 features 5x digital zoom. The iPhone 7 Plus has a dual camera 12-megapixel system allowing for 2x optical zoom and 10x software zoom. The telephoto lens on the iPhone 7 Plus has an ƒ/2.8 aperture.

Now I understand that a camera might have better quality if you get a good one. However, the IPhone 7+ takes better pictures the the digital cameras we bought just a few years ago. Plus if the wife wants actual photos she just checks the photo and sends them over the Internet to get printed then they send them to the house.

The other thing that is really cool that I don't think a camera does is the memories function on the iPhone. It will go into your pictures and videos and make a slide show/video by itself. For instance if I go under the memories tab there is one called On The Water 2014-2017. It takes every photo or video from being on the water and makes a slide show video. It is really kinda cool to watch. It made a really awsome video slide show of our vacation and I did nothing. Technology is amazing.

Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Sep 25, 2017, 07:42 PM
There's one phone that might be similar to slr type lenses and I think  it is a worth less phone none the less..  macro shots are non existence with a I phone or a galaxy phones..  trying to take a pick of a  size 18 dry fly is tough but can be done but a size 24 forget it.. if you take wide angle shots of eagles at 1000 plus feet your I phone has a no way to compete with the slr style cameras.. cant zoom far enough and get a good enough shot with a I phone trust me.. it like buying a reel for $5  versus one for $40 to $200 the more you pay the better the quality gets.. same with slr lenes don't think they make a Panamarmic zoom lens for your iPhone etc that shoots as clear as the slr cameras..  it is imposible with out the zoom lenses these slrs can get.. that's why most people don't take  magazie cover photos with a I phone..
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Agronomist_at_IA on Sep 25, 2017, 08:17 PM
There's one phone that might be similar to slr type lenses and I think  it is a worth less phone none the less..  macro shots are non existence with a I phone or a galaxy phones..  trying to take a pick of a  size 18 dry fly is tough but can be done but a size 24 forget it.. if you take wide angle shots of eagles at 1000 plus feet your I phone has a no way to compete with the slr style cameras.. cant zoom far enough and get a good enough shot with a I phone trust me.. it like buying a reel for $5  versus one for $40 to $200 the more you pay the better the quality gets.. same with slr lenes don't think they make a Panamarmic zoom lens for your iPhone etc that shoots as clear as the slr cameras..  it is imposible with out the zoom lenses these slrs can get.. that's why most people don't take  magazie cover photos with a I phone..

Don't disagree just was point out for the everyday person that use to buy the everyday camera....the Phones have come a long way and fill most people's needs
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Spider1 on Sep 26, 2017, 05:43 AM
Last year I got tired of fumbling around with my cell phone camera. The problem is that in the sun, I can't see the screen so I never know if it came out ok or if it's even ready to take a pic. A buddy of mine always brings a camera and I was always impressed with the quality of his photos, much better than cell phone pics. I got a cheap camera that is basically a point and shoot and it's much easier to deal with. Got a gopro I want to try this year also.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: meatandmetal on Sep 26, 2017, 06:05 AM
This is what I use for my pictures. This is a "real camera".

(https://s26.postimg.cc/u3g8005sp/download.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: aquarium234 on Sep 26, 2017, 07:38 AM
the only way you will truly see the difference between the phones and a camera is to take a picture with both of the same fish, then compare the photos, I must admit, at least its been a good topic to get a bunch of people fired up to talk about... :-)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: papadarv on Sep 26, 2017, 08:14 AM
??? Ok.  If not for a camera ??  How do I get Navionics for my Samsung android?   Not an app that I see available?
Dick

Go to Play Store, android app store. Type boating than select boating app. 2 U.S. versions available. Boating $10 and BoatingHD $50.00 for tablet. Boating gives you a 2 week free full version to try out before purchase. Cheaper boating version also works on android tablets.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 26, 2017, 08:44 AM
 ::) ;D  I still prefer my real camera for those once in a lifetime photos!
Dick


(https://s19.postimg.cc/9m7c4ob1b/fd69df4b3e28783ea92543a86dca431c--ice-fishing-ge.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9m7c4ob1b/)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: jibbs on Sep 26, 2017, 10:56 AM
I the iphone 7 shot is the best camera I have ever used...in my opinion of course
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Gills-only on Sep 26, 2017, 03:22 PM
I have the 7+ I phone and the pictures are great ! Can also talk, text and have lake maps, can't do that with a camera. That being said, if taking pictures for a magazine u might want to get a "camera"
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Coffin Dodger on Sep 26, 2017, 04:42 PM
This is what I use for my pictures. This is a "real camera".

(https://s26.postimg.cc/u3g8005sp/download.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Is that the newer version, Denny?  ;)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 27, 2017, 06:07 PM
 ::)  This picture is on my wall because it was taken with a real camera.
DICK

(https://s19.postimg.cc/eb67voz8f/Steve_Rainbow.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/eb67voz8f/)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: meatandmetal on Sep 28, 2017, 05:55 AM
::) ;D  I still prefer my real camera for those once in a lifetime photos!
Dick


(https://s19.postimg.cc/9m7c4ob1b/fd69df4b3e28783ea92543a86dca431c--ice-fishing-ge.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9m7c4ob1b/)

Dick that was nice of you to let her use your jig pole.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Hottuna5150 on Sep 28, 2017, 06:00 AM
Haha that's awesome. Looks like she's jiggin for beer.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Fish Butcher on Sep 28, 2017, 06:27 AM
Bobber down. Dick, me thinks you're hooked!
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: 3300 on Sep 28, 2017, 08:47 AM
my new camera gets great angles! uses a 1-inch 20MP Exmor R CMOS camera with 4k res and 60 fps. streams vids from 4.3 miles away.
(https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/5710/5710367_sa.jpg)

my other new camera is also great. more rugged and water proof. uses a 12.0MP EIS optics and takes Image Resolution  of
4000 x 3000.
(https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/5579/5579154_ra.jpg)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 28, 2017, 09:37 AM
 ???  OK! I've warned the girls to be ware of incoming??
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Roccus on Sep 28, 2017, 10:23 AM
This is what I use for my pictures. This is a "real camera".

(https://s26.postimg.cc/u3g8005sp/download.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
that's more my style..I'm with ya on a 'real" camera Dick... I have an old Olympus that I carry .. I fish alone most of the time and that damn phone camera does ant have a timer...at least not that I can figure out..
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 28, 2017, 02:32 PM
 ???  Since I only use my Samsung as a phone I was shocked how much it would cost to change to an Apple iphone7 or the new Apple iphone 8.  Both are way beyond my retirement budget?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 28, 2017, 04:12 PM
 ???My wife has a Apple 7 plus but she won't let me play with it.  My Tracfone android does everything that I will ever hope for. 
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Gills-only on Sep 28, 2017, 05:17 PM
???My wife has a Apple 7 plus but she won't let me play with it.  My Tracfone android does everything that I will ever hope for. 
Dick
.           She won't let u play with it cause u will have one after seeing the pictures it takes !!
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 28, 2017, 06:01 PM
 :'(My wife has big income and I don't.  Guess you also have big income?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: FlamDragger on Sep 28, 2017, 06:19 PM
After becoming an AARP member, (that means you're old), I recently picked up an iPhone SE with a 12 megapixel camera that puts my old Nikon coolpix camera to shame. I also downloaded a free app called fishingmobile from 2-minute tackle that has all kinds of fun features.
 It's costing me $25 a month for six months, to have the phone paid off.  I think most of us can afford that.
I'm done haulung my camera along.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: filetandrelease on Sep 28, 2017, 07:03 PM
There all kinds deals out there , shop a round bit   , or maybe you could ask for 1 for x-mas 🙂
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Gills-only on Sep 28, 2017, 07:18 PM
:'(My wife has big income and I don't.  Guess you also have big income?
Dick
eee.              Retired, want more than a phone, like I told my dad " I u don't move along with the world , u will be left behind" !!
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 29, 2017, 08:36 AM
I'm really happy I started this thread.  It confirms that fact that there are still some of us old fuddy duds that carry a cell phone  to call home or friends to tell them that I'm on the fish.
I'm happy that some of us still take pictures with a "real camera" that lets us catch high points during a day on the ice.   Kind of sad to think that a beautiful day on the ice involves Iphone games and incoming call music?   When I'm on the ice I turn my cell phone OFF.
I don't play games while I'm trying to find fish!  My dad would be happy that I have been left behind the new generation and simply set out in my folding chair and enjoy the winter ice.
OK!  I do rely on my Vexilar  flasher as my game board?   
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: TheCrappieFisherman on Sep 29, 2017, 08:52 AM
As part of "that" ::) generation (24 y.o.) I always have my phone with ice fishing and use it for pictures most of the time. But.. wait for it.... I even have a real camera as well! that I will take with occasionally and on camping trips.  You can't beat an optical zoom lens compared to a digital zoom (cell phone), especially if you are trying to print or blow up the image.

If you aren't needing to zoom in with the camera or enlarge the image afterwards and lighting is good, cell phones do a pretty good job.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 29, 2017, 09:21 AM
As part of "that" ::) generation (24 y.o.) I always have my phone with ice fishing and use it for pictures most of the time. But.. wait for it.... I even have a real camera as well! that I will take with occasionally and on camping trips.  You can't beat an optical zoom lens compared to a digital zoom (cell phone), especially if you are trying to print or blow up the image.

If you aren't needing to zoom in with the camera or enlarge the image afterwards and lighting is good, cell phones do a pretty good job.

Thanks  Crappie Fisherman,    I'm happy to carry both my android and my Nikon SLR digital camera.  Seems to be no excess weight ?   I have to admit that my older Nikon SLR would now cost $500 but that seems reasonable compared to a $300 I phone plus server fees.  My TracFone costs me $100 per year and I have as yet added no apps?   
Any Iphone photo user should have been lucky enough to have utilized a digital SLR camera to compare the functionality and ease of picture taking before comparing it to an Iphone camera screen.   It seems that , over the years,  I've found that  tools that offer to do TOO many things don't do any of them WELL?   I do love my Samsung android as well as my Nikon digital SLR camera!  As with my Vexilar FL20 I wouldn't go anywhere without them!
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: 3300 on Sep 29, 2017, 09:59 AM
i just added this to my camera hardware i use. it has a 23 mp lens. i picked mine up yesterday at bestbuy swapping out my drone. picked up the dji mavic.
my other cameras are buried, some where.

 23 MP Main Camera with hybrid Autofocus captures your split-second moments in sharp quality.
16 MP front-facing camera with Optical Image Stabilizer (OIS) for taking amazing photos even in low-light conditions and livestreaming your experiences with minimal shake.

https://www.amazon.com/Sony-Xperia-Ultra-Factory-Unlocked/dp/B071JP8XDJ
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Gills-only on Sep 29, 2017, 10:02 AM
Don’t play games either when on ice, nice to have camera with out dragging the old 35 out and have to take film in to develope!
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 29, 2017, 01:25 PM
Don’t play games either when on ice, nice to have camera with out dragging the old 35 out and have to take film in to develope!

Been many years since I used film.  I can remember when stories had to be mailed along with hard copy and slides??  But, I got paid better back then!
How ab out the new SONY  that 3300 just got.  Looks like something I might ask for Christmas?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Sep 29, 2017, 05:39 PM
This is what I use for my pictures. This is a "real camera".

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Same camera that made Ansel Adams famous?   Not sure whether he would use modern camera or swap to Iphone?
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: SALMONEMIA on Sep 30, 2017, 06:30 AM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/6iva5hkcv/20170921_185932.jpg)

Taken last week on the Merrimack Crappie fishing. Un edited looked exactly like it does in picture. On my galaxy phone. Good enough for my purposes. Great thread though.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: 3300 on Sep 30, 2017, 12:11 PM
Been many years since I used film.  I can remember when stories had to be mailed along with hard copy and slides??  But, I got paid better back then!
How ab out the new SONY  that 3300 just got.  Looks like something I might ask for Christmas?
Dick
you can find them for 265$ on amazon and the 350$ price. best buy has them on sale for the 50$ off the 400$ msrp price tag. i like being able to just go buy stuff and see it first hand. bestbuy's warranty is not good any more tho, so buying from amazon for the 265$ is a nice deal too so long as it's in a factory sealed box. 23 mp lens is the best i found in this type of format, but then again, it is sony, the one and only lol.
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Coffin Dodger on Sep 30, 2017, 05:53 PM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/6iva5hkcv/20170921_185932.jpg)

Taken last week on the Merrimack Crappie fishing. Un edited looked exactly like it does in picture. On my galaxy phone. Good enough for my purposes. Great thread though.
Great pic, Wayne.  :)  :tipup:
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: Raquettedacker on Sep 30, 2017, 06:23 PM
I use a Kodak EasyShare C433 camera...   Cheep small and takes great pictures..... ;)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: SALMONEMIA on Sep 30, 2017, 06:50 PM
Great pic, Wayne.  :)  :tipup:
Thanks Richard. 
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: meatandmetal on Oct 01, 2017, 05:57 AM
(https://s25.postimg.cc/6iva5hkcv/20170921_185932.jpg)

Taken last week on the Merrimack Crappie fishing. Un edited looked exactly like it does in picture. On my galaxy phone. Good enough for my purposes. Great thread though.

Awesome picture Wayne how was the fishing?
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Oct 01, 2017, 07:11 AM
Awesome picture Wayne how was the fishing?

Wayne,  beautiful picture.  Thanks for my new desktop wallpaper!
Dick
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: PoolGuy on Oct 01, 2017, 08:13 AM
Great topic dick..Its nice too see the page come to life again after a long hiatus...can't wait to hit the ice  :tipup:
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: dickbaker on Oct 01, 2017, 08:28 AM
Great topic dick..Its nice too see the page come to life again after a long hiatus...can't wait to hit the ice  :tipup:

Thanks Bill,  Its foliage time in the north country so my camera (not my phone) is the first thing in hand.  Happy to find that this topic actually got me to get out with my Samsung  Galaxy and experiment.  Only made it half way to the pond when my wife called to ask me about lawn mowing and window cleaning!   Now I remember why I don't bring my phone when I'm fishing??   
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: PoolGuy on Oct 01, 2017, 08:39 AM
Here's a pic of M&M from last year...this was taken on my iPhone, hopefully it posts I used the add image to post

(https://s25.postimg.cc/a1hfjnxiz/IMG_0552.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a1hfjnxiz/)

Clearly the phone doesn't do it any justice
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Post by: SALMONEMIA on Oct 01, 2017, 09:08 AM
Here's a pic of M&M from last year...this was taken on my iPhone, hopefully it posts I used the add image to post

(https://s25.postimg.cc/a1hfjnxiz/IMG_0552.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/a1hfjnxiz/)

Clearly the phone doesn't do it any justice
Was that the day we all met up? I never saw that fish.
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Post by: SALMONEMIA on Oct 01, 2017, 09:09 AM
Awesome picture Wayne how was the fishing?
It was good. Lots of crappie established in the Merrimack
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Post by: chilly-willy on Oct 01, 2017, 10:13 AM
you can find them for 265$ on amazon and the 350$ price. best buy has them on sale for the 50$ off the 400$ msrp price tag. i like being able to just go buy stuff and see it first hand. bestbuy's warranty is not good any more tho, so buying from amazon for the 265$ is a nice deal too so long as it's in a factory sealed box. 23 mp lens is the best i found in this type of format, but then again, it is sony, the one and only lol.


Square trade warranty?? Can you get one on it??  I would check..
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Post by: missoulafish on Oct 01, 2017, 11:18 AM
getting a new phone today!!
Well, actually updating to IOS 11.0.1 which will be almost like getting a new camera ;D
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Post by: PoolGuy on Oct 01, 2017, 11:57 AM
Was that the day we all met up? I never saw that fish.

Yes..
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Post by: 3300 on Oct 01, 2017, 12:08 PM

Square trade warranty?? Can you get one on it??  I would check..
maybe, but i bought from bestbuy and the go pro hero 5 black and the drone came from them.
best buy phone warranty is 90$ for one year and a 50$ deposit charge if you use the warranty. i'll buy a new one before i spend on that type of warranty. their getting plenty of my loot as it is.

db, what's going on with the photo's. i hope it's not a terms of service change like photobucket did to us all.
::) ;D  I still prefer my real camera for those once in a lifetime photos!
Dick


(https://s19.postimg.cc/9m7c4ob1b/fd69df4b3e28783ea92543a86dca431c--ice-fishing-ge.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/9m7c4ob1b/)
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Post by: dickbaker on Oct 01, 2017, 12:59 PM
 ;D Nope!  Post Images  No fee and seems to work fine.   
I still think anyone who hasn't used a DSLR camera shouldn't compare it to the functionality and speed of a iphone?   With a DSLR you look thru the lense see and frame what you want, snap and when home you pop the SD card in the computer and store in MY Pictures.  Posting done with Post Images site.   I kind of wish everybody would edit there image sites to eliminate any of the old PhotoBucket junk?   I really want Photobucket to disappear ?
Dick
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Post by: jethro on Oct 06, 2017, 01:10 PM
Those of you stating that iphones are the best, I'd like to introduce you to a little phrase called "dynamic range." Lets see if you can do this with your iphones:

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Fireworks/i-XR5GjhV/0/ffdf44b2/X3/fireworks3-X3.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Fireworks/i-kkmX2hk/0/fe26870c/X3/fireworks1-X3.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Photography/Moon/Astrophotograhy/i-FPzqvZP/0/e5528d57/XL/100-400moon2-XL.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Photography/Sky/i-smQMMxN/0/5544b8e1/X2/sunset3-X2.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Other/Misc/i-8Jr9w58/0/148ad69e/XL/IMG_5079-XL.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Sports/Derby-2011/i-hZp7NBf/0/24bb0e1f/X3/Derby%20Fish-X3.jpg)

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Post by: zwiggles on Oct 06, 2017, 01:19 PM
;D Nope!  Post Images  No fee and seems to work fine.   
I still think anyone who hasn't used a DSLR camera shouldn't compare it to the functionality and speed of a iphone?   With a DSLR you look thru the lense see and frame what you want, snap and when home you pop the SD card in the computer and store in MY Pictures.  Posting done with Post Images site.   I kind of wish everybody would edit there image sites to eliminate any of the old PhotoBucket junk?   I really want Photobucket to disappear ?
Dick

Have you ever used an iPhone?
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Post by: chilly-willy on Oct 06, 2017, 03:01 PM
maybe, but i bought from bestbuy and the go pro hero 5 black and the drone came from them.
best buy phone warranty is 90$ for one year and a 50$ deposit charge if you use the warranty. i'll buy a new one before i spend on that type of warranty. their getting plenty of my loot as it is.

db, what's going on with the photo's. i hope it's not a terms of service change like photobucket did to us all.

Even if you buy it from best buy I think you can buy a square trade warranty??  might be worth checking into next time??  Also check crutchfield I think they sell cameras like best buy but offer square trade wannanty...instead of a protection plan like best buy had problems with a stero at best buy they sent me to a local repair facility of theirs to have it refurbished that's not why I paid the money for the protection plan was to get a new item when old broke...   then you got restocking fees of 20% that's why I avoid best buy like the plague ..
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Post by: dickbaker on Oct 06, 2017, 06:18 PM
Doc?  My last camera purchase from B&H  came with a report about dynamic range.
Seems really important but I still haven't absorbed it?? 
Zwiggles?  I have a Samsung Galaxy that I rarely use  it to call home or TEXT?  I've used it for pictures but I'm not happy with the ease of use in the field.  I have to ask if you have ever used a DSLR camera?
Dick
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Post by: Light liner on Oct 10, 2017, 10:31 AM
2007 called. They want their iPhone back.
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Post by: Nosaj on Oct 17, 2017, 11:45 AM
Was that the day we all met up? I never saw that fish.

It was, lets do it again this year.
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Post by: SALMONEMIA on Oct 25, 2017, 03:28 PM
From my samsung phone.  Un edited
(https://s1.postimg.cc/1xpkji0ccb/20171022_072447.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/1xpkji0ccb/)
Title: Re: BUY A REAL CAMERA!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Oct 25, 2017, 06:21 PM
Here's a michigans sun rise over canada got this wile fishing last week end .. ended out with three guys limited out on walleye and one lake trout.. and one nice view in morning.. this was taken with a galaxy s5 active phone would have been better with the dslr camera.. let me know if I should resize it some times you can't zoom in enough with it resized.. that's why I left it alone..




(https://i.imgur.com/sQFEoYZ.jpg)

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Post by: SALMONEMIA on Oct 25, 2017, 09:44 PM
Very nice
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Post by: fishermantim on Oct 26, 2017, 01:18 PM
Sure, cell phone cameras can take nice pictures, but what you have to keep in mind is that the size of the image.
A cellphone photo, regardless of what they tell you, is designed for small screen display.
Once you try to blow up the print it loses it's definition and gets blurry.

A camera can zoom AND refine the image before taking the picture, so you get a better product from the start.

The problem most people discover is that they believe that since the camera screen shows that they took a good picture, that that quality transfers to every other viewing medium....but it doesn't.

If you want really good pictures suitable for enlarging and framing you will still need a camera.

Not complaining or arguing, just stating what I have discovered myself over time.

NOTE...that this should not dissuade people from using their cellphones to take pictures, but rather to make them understand its limitations.
That's all...
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Post by: SLAYERFISH on Oct 26, 2017, 01:25 PM
Just not gonna carry both when I go fishing.  Not gonna drop real coin on a digital camera either-
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Post by: zwiggles on Oct 26, 2017, 01:27 PM
I have had great luck with blowing up photos from my iPhone 7 Plus. I know in the old models this was an issue, but not so much anymore.
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Post by: Raquettedacker on Oct 26, 2017, 01:31 PM
Here's a michigans sun rise over canada got this wile fishing last week end .. ended out with three guys limited out on walleye and one lake trout.. and one nice view in morning.. this was taken with a galaxy s5 active phone would have been better with the dslr camera.. let me know if I should resize it some times you can't zoom in enough with it resized.. that's why I left it alone..

    Resize pleze...    ;)
Way to big...   ;D
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Post by: meatandmetal on Oct 28, 2017, 08:11 AM
It was, lets do it again this year.

Sounds like a plan guys except this year CD has to be there.
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Post by: Coffin Dodger on Oct 28, 2017, 08:44 AM
Sounds like a plan guys except this year CD has to be there.
Thanks, Denny. I know I missed a good time last year.
I will make every effort to be there this year.  :tipup:
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Post by: dickbaker on Oct 28, 2017, 10:25 AM
Here's a michigans sun rise over canada got this wile fishing last week end .. ended out with three guys limited out on walleye and one lake trout.. and one nice view in morning.. this was taken with a galaxy s5 active phone would have been better with the dslr camera.. let me know if I should resize it some times you can't zoom in enough with it resized.. that's why I left it alone..
Willy.resized would make a great photo?  But, thanks, it shows what happens to a Iphone phone when you try to reframe and enlarge it? 
Dick




(https://i.imgur.com/sQFEoYZ.jpg)
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Post by: jethro on Oct 30, 2017, 09:14 AM
As I said above, it's all in how you plan on displaying your images. You can blow up an image from a tiny sensor for display on a 1080p monitor no problem. You can zoom it in and never notice any loss. But if you print a photo from a cell phone, even at a weak 2400dpi and 5x7", I personally can tell in a heartbeat when it's taken from a cell phone. The average camera user never prints a single photo anymore. And those that do, usually do so at home with a relatively cheap inkjet. I get a laugh out of the soccer moms taking snaps of little Johnny with a $2500 DSLR when you know that they do nothing more than upload their photos to Facebook or Instagram. Those users would be much better served with a fast focusing EVF point and shoot with a superzoom.