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Offline Doeslayer

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How far is far enough
« on: Mar 13, 2019, 09:03 AM »
At what point does sag river become sag bay... Cuz when the ice blows out completely i wanna be at the mouth jiggin in my boat but it closes friday on the river
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #1 on: Mar 13, 2019, 09:21 AM »
It's about where the red line is drawn in the pic below.

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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #2 on: Mar 13, 2019, 09:36 AM »
Theres a red line? Lol i must see such a drawing
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #3 on: Mar 13, 2019, 09:36 AM »
Not familiar with it enough to know, but nautical charts show Buoy 28 near the mouth as a Saginaw Bay buoy with buoy's south into the river proper referenced as Saginaw River buoy's, if that's of any help.
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #4 on: Mar 13, 2019, 09:40 AM »
Yea i seen that.... Ill just call the dnr... I have the bay city office number in my phone and call em about once a week with questions just like this lol
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #5 on: Mar 13, 2019, 09:52 AM »
UPDATE!! Just got off the phone with the bay city office of operations.... The saginaw river up to center st bridge is considered part of the bay now.... Hence does not close for walleye season.... O encourage all of you to call and confirm this for youself to be filled with the joy that i was
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #6 on: Mar 13, 2019, 10:07 AM »
That has to be wrong... I just dont understand
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #7 on: Mar 13, 2019, 10:45 AM »
Center Street is the boundary for the (8) fish, 13" limit exception rule...
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #8 on: Mar 13, 2019, 10:49 AM »
Yea well call the dnr office and ask em thats what they told me i wanna talk to a field officer
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #9 on: Mar 13, 2019, 10:59 AM »
Quote from: Doeslayer on Mar 13, 2019, 10:49 AM
Yea well call the dnr office and ask em thats what they told me i wanna talk to a field officer


I was just saying that the Center Street bridge is the size/creel limit for walleye on the Bay and the River "up to" Center - I still think the river ends at/near Buoy 28 and closes in it's entirety on March 15.  Out past 28 and you should be fine, IMHO.
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #10 on: Mar 13, 2019, 11:05 AM »
Yea see the lady i spoke with said its part of the bay now.... Im really confused... I wish it stayed open but it cant be
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #11 on: Mar 13, 2019, 11:20 AM »
Are there any "No Wake Zone" signs posted anywhere out near the mouth?  MI Rule R281.709.1 states there is a slow/no-wake on the Bay 300' from the mouth of the Saginaw River - I would hazard a guess that may be posted..
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #12 on: Mar 13, 2019, 12:08 PM »
I cant find what the bay is classified as?  It appears to me it is an inland water...  it is not listed as a great lakes connecting water?  Is it open for eyes year around?  I agree with BR, center st bridge is only for size/limit
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #13 on: Mar 13, 2019, 12:56 PM »
Quote from: dinkssuck on Mar 13, 2019, 12:08 PM
I cant find what the bay is classified as?  It appears to me it is an inland water...  it is not listed as a great lakes connecting water?  Is it open for eyes year around?  I agree with BR, center st bridge is only for size/limit


Saginaw Bay is considered part of Lake Huron.  Connecting waterways are the rivers/lakes that connect the Great Lakes to each other.
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #14 on: Mar 13, 2019, 01:37 PM »
Update update.... Just got off the phone with fisheries department.... Got the response i was looking for... Whoever i talk ed to this morning was an idiot.... Saginaw bay starts at the end of the plant land on the east side....
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #15 on: Mar 13, 2019, 03:13 PM »
I also just got off the phone with someone from the fisheries department of the dnr.  He said that the "river" ends on an imaginary line from one shore to the other shore directly across the river.
Please forgive my crude drawing, but this was my understanding. 

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Re: How far is far enough
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #17 on: Mar 13, 2019, 03:35 PM »
Quote from: wingfan87 on Mar 13, 2019, 03:13 PM
I also just got off the phone with someone from the fisheries department of the dnr.  He said that the "river" ends on an imaginary line from one shore to the other shore directly across the river.
Please forgive my crude drawing, but this was my understanding. 


Here's a diagram I pulled that illustrated the no wake zone I referenced earlier.  Mouth would technically be 300' in from the line extending into the Bay...



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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #18 on: Mar 13, 2019, 03:45 PM »
Quote from: wingfan87 on Mar 13, 2019, 03:13 PM
I also just got off the phone with someone from the fisheries department of the dnr.  He said that the "river" ends on an imaginary line from one shore to the other shore directly across the river.
Please forgive my crude drawing, but this was my understanding. 

.    So it will be up to the individual officer to determine if u are in violation. If in doubt , stay a little farther out !!
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #19 on: Mar 13, 2019, 03:58 PM »
Quote from: Snitch#8 on Mar 13, 2019, 03:52 PM
I believe the line the DNR goes by is from the white buoy with the navigation lights on it, on the west side of the river across to lands end on the east side of the river, by the coal plant.


That would be Buoy 28 and would make sense.  Still interesting that there isn't any clearly defined description written anywhere - at least nothing I could readily find.
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #20 on: Mar 13, 2019, 04:08 PM »
The officer i spoke with said that they cant post a determining spot because the shoreline is ever changing....
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #21 on: Mar 13, 2019, 04:12 PM »


This is what im thinking it is... Bouy 28 is under that line..... The whole deal is my boat is small and i aint trying to get frisky and sink... I already know my days will be limited due to chop.... But if i can run the edge of that shipping channel where it hooks a right on a southwind day i should be ok..
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #22 on: Mar 13, 2019, 07:14 PM »
Yea my boat is a flatbottom 14ft with a 3hp motor..... Not exactly bigwater material.... But it can and will be done lol
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Re: How far is far enough
« Reply #23 on: Mar 13, 2019, 10:27 PM »
DS, I would say your map is fairly close. As long as you are in a boat and not in between the land points of the river, then your good. Standing on shore, casting towards the "bay" would be necessary versus the river channel. 
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