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The Fish Com should have marked the area with danger tape. I read in the newspaper that they need volunteer deputies.
I disagree. IMO, people should be held responsible to verify safe ice for themselves. Do you want the PFBC to mark off only the PAK or all the thousands of lakes & ponds in PA? The problem is with stupid people.
Well, I saw an area marked off at Winola two years ago and I would not have noticed it due to heavy snow. I think the PFBC should patrol lakes better. I talked to guys fishing this year and thy did not know the size and amount limits for bass and trout. I just want to make a point that they don't have enough officers and now are asking for deputy volunteers.
Lots of local fire depts use lakes for training their dive teams in winter. They cut a big hole in the ice, then mark it with caution tape after they are done, until it refreezes. Same thing with these polar bear swims. I have yet to hear of PFB&C doing this.
The first responders on the first incident should mark the area unsafe. It's a no brainier.
Disagree. Why do people today want to blame someone else for their short comings? It's the PFBC's fault, it's the first res-ponders fault, it's EMS fault, WRONG folks. The onus is on the stupid people who didn't check how thick the ice was. If this happened to me, I'd own it, and blame myself for be stupid. End of story. FT
The launches are public property and will remain that way. The lake has private frontage but is private by no means.
In most cases I’d agree , but due to the first incident the second incident was entirely preventable. Some snow paint a few cones. This is a better plan than risking the first responders or even bystanders being put in danger trying to rescue folks when they could of just threw some markers out.
Earlier this year I was fishing in a cove with 4 in of ice. A young person on an atv went out fishing on an ATV. I think the fish com should fine these people for reckless driving because they are not only endangering themselves but also the people who have to rescue them if they fall thru.
Both incidents were preventable if the people used their brains and checked the ice conditions before driving around on the ice with no regard for their own safety. Yeah snow paint, whatever that is, and a few cones sounds like a good idea but that's no guarantee that it would've prevented either incident. Some of the people who ride on ATVs and snowmobiles drive right through people's tip-up spreads and even run them over so I highly doubt anyone from that group would even give a second thought to a cone or painted snow. Furthermore who's going to go get the cones at the end of the ice season? Who's going to pay for the cones to be replaced if they go through the ice? I can say from first hand knowledge these volunteer fire companies don't have lots of money to go replace equipment and the equipment isn't cheap, not even cones. It's called being responsible for your own safety and using common sense. I know I wouldn't be driving around on the ice with a machine that has a combined weight of the machine and rider of at least seven or eight hundred pounds without making sure the ice is safe.