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IceShanty Main => General Ice Fishing Chit Chat => Topic started by: MichaelAngelo on Jan 24, 2024, 10:19 AM
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I have an old Bass Pro 2 man flip hut - the tub is getting quite worn out and I've been constantly plastic welding it. Going to be looking for a new tub, but haven't found anything in Canada.
Also wondering what the lightest 2 man flip hut is nowadays? I don't think anything exists now that is as light as this old hut is. This is a follow-up of this post a while ago that I never resolved: https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=388761.0
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Going to go with the Eskimo Sierra Thermal for the win ..as it has a thinner tub and lightweight mesh seats. Otters have very heavy durable tubs .
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Removing the seats completely and sitting on a bucket or lightweight aluminum chair can cut weight significantly.
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I don't know much about them, or if they are available in Canada, but the Ice Runners seem to be about as light as it gets. Would agree that the Eskimo Sierra with the seats removed is probably close as far as weight. Nice thing would be that on day with an easy pull, you can put the seats back in, they are very comfortable. Those lightweight tubs probably are for hand pulling only if you want them to last
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A Smitty Sled can equalize a lot of weight woes .Again the mesh seating in the Eskimo is quite comfortable .
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A Smitty Sled can equalize a lot of weight woes .Again the mesh seating in the Eskimo is quite comfortable .
Hey Hardwater, that Eskimo thermal is 82 pounds!!! I wouldnt call that light weight especially if you have to pull by hand at my age. My Ptter hub is bigger and can fit 4 guys at 48 pounds.
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Hey Hardwater, that Eskimo thermal is 82 pounds!!! I wouldnt call that light weight especially if you have to pull by hand at my age. My Ptter hub is bigger and can fit 4 guys at 48 pounds.
In the world of flip overs I believe it is the lightest out there ...hubs are a different animal
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The Clam Nanook XT thermal is a two man shelter, thermal unit that weighs 80 lbs. Has these specs:
Set up size: L 94 x W 61 x H 75
Front height: 75
Pack size with seats: L 61 x W 35 x H 23
Weight: 80 pounds
Fishing Area: L 58 x W 59
Fishable Square Footage: 24 square feet
If you want to reduce the weight, you can leave out a chair - should take about 10 lbs off that weight.
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I am using the Eskimo Sierra Thermal. Use mostly as a 1 man. Chose to not install either seat, saving 30lbs.
Use a comfy folding chair. Made it lighter when loading in PU, add chair after shelter is unloaded.
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The Clam Nanook XT thermal is a two man shelter, thermal unit that weighs 80 lbs. Has these specs:
Set up size: L 94 x W 61 x H 75
Front height: 75
Pack size with seats: L 61 x W 35 x H 23
Weight: 80 pounds
Fishing Area: L 58 x W 59
Fishable Square Footage: 24 square feet
If you want to reduce the weight, you can leave out a chair - should take about 10 lbs off that weight.
The seats in my Clam Nanook XT thermal weigh 17 1/2 lbs each. So the unit is only 45 lbs with the seats out. Very easy to load and unload. I use it with only one seat. Very easy to pull with a Smitty. Ive had it for three years and really like it. It was the lightest 2 man flip I could find.
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How did you join the cross-bars on the Smitty? Doe's is dis-assemble for transport and storage?
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How did you join the cross-bars on the Smitty? Doe's is dis-assemble for transport and storage?
Drill hole in cross member, insert carriage bolt; drill hole in upright to accept the carriage bolt stem. Doing it this way allows you to remove the cross braces when its time to pack up.
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I actually used angles on the cross pieces, on both sides of the risers. Was able to eliminate the need for the carriage bolts. Tightened things up a bit for me too, although it was a sloppy first build with my amateur hour carpentry skills.
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How did you join the cross-bars on the Smitty? Doe's is dis-assemble for transport and storage?
Yes it breaks down for easy transport. Just drill the uprights and use a bolt through the cross member into the hole. Heres a couple of pics. Also lots of how to info in the Smitty thread in the equipment section:
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=103927.0 (https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=103927.0)
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Ive used a frabil aegis 2110 for 4 yrs now.
Very light 2 man, just take out the spare seat. Its got insulated top only.
Mine weighs 35lbs with one seat and no gear.
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A Smitty Sled can equalize a lot of weight woes .Again the mesh seating in the Eskimo is quite comfortable .
I second this big time. I am 69 and live in NE Illinois. So I have to manhaul my gear. I built a Smitty Sled and it dramatically makes hauling my gear easier. Also unless you are fishing it really cold temps, perhaps you dont need an insulated hut. Good luck.
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Ive used a frabil aegis 2110 for 4 yrs now.
Very light 2 man, just take out the spare seat. Its got insulated top only.
Mine weighs 35lbs with one seat and no gear.
Can confirm that he pulls it faster than my otter xt650 cottage.... ;D
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Alright just measured and weighed my shelter. As you can see from the pics... it's been plastic welded to the moon and back lol
Without seats/tow bar (I don't have the seats) so just the shelter/tub+2 layers of Refletix it's 52lbs.
35" x 60".
Would be a pain to fit Refletix again if I buy a new shelter -but if I could save 10 or so lbs off the base weight might be worth it.
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Ice Runner is very light, but a bit more "budget oriented". I don't mind my Explorer, and think it was worth the short coin, but construction is less than the heavier brands (sled/fabric/poles). No real issues, besides having to reconfigure the pole lengths in one of the hubs because they were not placed correctly from the factory and it made it a b%&^$# to hit the push pin on one pole. Reoriented and no more issues as of yet. As someone else said, removing bench or chairs will greatly reduce weight on any brand of hut.
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Ive used a frabil aegis 2110 for 4 yrs now.
Very light 2 man, just take out the spare seat. Its got insulated top only.
Mine weighs 35lbs with one seat and no gear.
35lbs sounds incredible for a 2 man. Having a look for an old one and cant' find any for sale - will check their current offerings if there's something just as light. For some reason they don't have weights posted on the site ???
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I see 2 Frabill Aegis 2110 on Facebook marketplace, one in Flint Michigan and one in Winona Minnesota if either of those are convenient for you.
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The seats in my Clam Nanook XT thermal weigh 17 1/2 lbs each. So the unit is only 45 lbs with the seats out. Very easy to load and unload. I use it with only one seat. Very easy to pull with a Smitty. Ive had it for three years and really like it. It was the lightest 2 man flip I could find.
I don't know how the newer Nanooks can be 82 lbs. I have an older insulated one and it is 110lbs. Then add your gear and it is pushing 140.
To get it in my truck I have to lift one end and set on tailgate hoping it don't slide out then go around and lift the other end and hope the runners don't get caught requiring me to tilt it...
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There is chatter on FB that the Eagle Claw/Shappell Bay Runner may be back for 2025 ...someone got a response from an Email from Eagle Claw supposedly .
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There is chatter on FB that the Eagle Claw/Shappell Bay Runner may be back for 2025 ...someone got a response from an Email from Eagle Claw supposedly .
that would be great. I have a bayrunner 2 and the cover is getting wore. I had considered having one made. Probably cheaper to buy a new one.
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There is chatter on FB that the Eagle Claw/Shappell Bay Runner may be back for 2025 ...someone got a response from an Email from Eagle Claw supposedly .
just googled it - fishing area integrated right into the tub. Wouldn't it fill up with snow when pulling?
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just googled it - fishing area integrated right into the tub. Wouldn't it fill up with snow when pulling?
Not at all, the trap doors seal up surprisingly well. I have 1 of the 1st ones made, put my order in before they were even available back in 2014 or 15 can't remember exactly. Search this site for bayrunner mods and mine should come up with all the mods I've done. I use it for skinny ice or when I can't use a machine to tow my stupid heavy Otter lodge pro X...
Be really great if they came out with an insulated version.
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I don't know how the newer Nanooks can be 82 lbs. I have an older insulated one and it is 110lbs. Then add your gear and it is pushing 140.
To get it in my truck I have to lift one end and set on tailgate hoping it don't slide out then go around and lift the other end and hope the runners don't get caught requiring me to tilt it...
Here are the specs from Clam. Overall weight 80 lbs. without seats. 45 lbs.
https://clamoutdoors.com/ice-shelters/fish-traps/nanook-xt-thermal (https://clamoutdoors.com/ice-shelters/fish-traps/nanook-xt-thermal)
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How did you join the cross-bars on the Smitty? Doe's is dis-assemble for transport and storage?
It breaks down into 4 pieces 2 skis and 2 cross pieces.
Here is how I connected the cross pieces.
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On my Eskimo Sierra Thermal comment above: Since I decided to not use the seats to save weight, I also did not install any of the seating framework. Did not weigh it, guessing I saved more than the 30lbs I mentioned.
It reduced lots of wt for the load, unloading. The padded folding chair I use, comfy and handy when fishing outside a set up shelter.
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I have gone to a hub style shelter. I will never go back to the flip up due to weight. We transom light and mobile to move move move.
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I have an old Bass Pro 2 man flip hut - the tub is getting quite worn out and I've been constantly plastic welding it. Going to be looking for a new tub, but haven't found anything in Canada.
Also wondering what the lightest 2 man flip hut is nowadays? I don't think anything exists now that is as light as this old hut is. This is a follow-up of this post a while ago that I never resolved: https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=388761.0
The Pro-Bass flip-over huts were direct knock-offs (copies) of the Clam flip-over shelters. You should be able to cross reference your flip-over to an older Clam flip-over. Once you have done that you can buy replacement tub and fabric form www.clam replacement parts/tubs.com. A few years ago I replaced the fabric for my single-man and two-man Clam huts.
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On my Eskimo Sierra Thermal comment above: Since I decided to not use the seats to save weight, I also did not install any of the seating framework. Did not weigh it, guessing I saved more than the 30lbs I mentioned.
It reduced lots of wt for the load, unloading. The padded folding chair I use, comfy and handy when fishing outside a set up shelter.
What do you think the weight is without the seats?
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I have gone to a hub style shelter. I will never go back to the flip up due to weight. We transom light and mobile to move move move.
Love it - but isn't setting the hub up and down every time you move spots a pain? I've dealt with hubs that always seem to tangle then break rods.
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Newer hubs don't tangle nearly as bad as the older ones. As far as being mobile? Not with any kind of wind.
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Michael Angelo...
I used a bathroom scale to weigh seats & framework that I didn't install.
Ballpark weight of shelter is 45lbs.
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I think Eskimo should've tried harder with their crossovers. The idea was innovative but worked poorly in practice. With heavy duty tubs and insulated tents it's gonna take some innovation to bring weights down.
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The Pro-Bass flip-over huts were direct knock-offs (copies) of the Clam flip-over shelters. You should be able to cross reference your flip-over to an older Clam flip-over. Once you have done that you can buy replacement tub and fabric form www.clam replacement parts/tubs.com. A few years ago I replaced the fabric for my single-man and two-man Clam huts.
Not knock offs. Clam built and "white labeled" for bass pro/cabelas. Neither of which manufacture flip overs.