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New York => Ice Fishing New York => Topic started by: JasonUpstate on Dec 13, 2005, 09:09 AM
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I'm currently in house hunting mode... Been look at PA and surrounding areas of orange county ny... And orange county ny itself is looking to expensive for my taste... So if I want to stay in ny I will have to head either north or west...
So in your opinion.. If you could live anywhere in NY where would it be? And why? Of course fishing and the outdoors is a major factor in where you would choose along with a good area for kids and such...
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Finger lake region. Pretty country here. Lots of fishing and hunting, get away from the big dumb cities.
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i'm with slipbob. great area.
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Ive got family around all corners of the state. I've traveled NY extensively (with the exception of NYC and Long Island), and my favorite two areas to live for Hunting and Fishing are right here in the Capital District, and then the Plattsburgh area.
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ROCHESTER!!!!!!!!!! Minutes from Lake Ontario and 1/2 hour from Finger Lakes Region. How can you beat that! Actually, anywhere in this state is the best. The only thing that is horrible is the taxes.
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CNY=big lakes=big fish ;D CNY=big forests=big bucks! ;D
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Thanks for the responses already guys.. That was FAST!!!
What part of the capital district? Ive been through albany on my way to troy to see my brothers band play at the hudson dusters before.. I wasnt too impressed with the area i went through to be honest... But more then likely it was just that area...
But yeah.. If you could give me a general area that would be great... This way I can research it better..
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Also one of these days I might have to take a ride up that way again... I definitly want to hit the king again this year...
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I grew up in the Glens Falls area and returned to capital district region (Saratoga) after spending time in various locations in New Jersey and New York. I love it here. The opportunities for outdoor activitities (hard and soft water fishing, skiing, golf, etc.) are exceptional. I spend a lot of time in summer and winter on Lake George which I feel is one of the best outdoor destinations in this country bar none. My wife and kids love it as much as I do. Sometimes I feel like I am on a permanent vacation when I talk to visitors to area who travel long distances to get here. We travel less than an hour and don't have to fork out a small fortune for motels, etc.
As a bonus, I have a state park within 10 minutes of my house with a lake loaded with rainbows that are a blast to catch on a fly rod. Not bad for end of day activity. I just wish that the walleye fishery on Lake Champlain could be improved to what it was when I was a kid. It was nothing to catch a dozen or more plus a gazillion perch and crappies. We used ancient equipment compared to what we use today, but fish did not seem to care. LOL.
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There are so many nice places to live. I live currently in Montgomery county. I'm 30 minutes from Albany, 1 hour form Lake George (the best icefishing lake in the world) 20 minutes from the Adirondacks (the best mountain range in the world) and some of the best hunting and fishing is to be found around here. Not to mention cool places such as Howe's caverns, Vrooman's Nose, and countless good restraunts, businessess and people.
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in my opinion you cant beat oswego county for trophy fishing year round and plenty of good hunting opportunities....but i can tell ya the city of oswego is a real real shady mess right now....google john gosek :)
billybono
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I'd have to go w/ oswego county too. Trophy trout and salmon minutes away in Ontario and great walleye fishing in oneida lake. Hunting is great too, have both southern and northern tier huntint opportunities, couldn't imagine living anywhere else.
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Come up to Saratoga County, you won't be disappointed. I could list all of the opportunities available within a 30 minute drive, but I am at work and do have to be productive today, so time will not allow a detailed list. YOU CANT GO WRONG!!!
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I grew up in orange county, great open water fishing for the spring and summer but dont look forward to any great icefishing spots. I currently go to school in plattsburgh and i love it up here. I think some of the best fishing in new york.
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I'd have to go w/ oswego county too. Trophy trout and salmon minutes away in Ontario and great walleye fishing in oneida lake. Hunting is great too, have both southern and northern tier huntint opportunities, couldn't imagine living anywhere else.
I never saw you catch a walleye!!! only bass. guess i will have to show you how its done this winter.
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I'd have to go w/ oswego county too. Trophy trout and salmon minutes away in Ontario and great walleye fishing in oneida lake. Hunting is great too, have both southern and northern tier huntint opportunities, couldn't imagine living anywhere else.
dont forget about the moster oswego harbor eyes eaither....too bad there only good for a pic and not the dinner plate
billybono
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well being from central ny
i would say oswego county also
why......
oneida lake 2 minutes
oswego 30 minutes
lake erie 3 hours
lake champlain 4 hours
thousand islands 1 hour
finger lakes all within 2 hours
nuff said
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....google john gosek :)
Ha... There is a lot more than just Gosek that should be googled from Oswego. Some crazy stuff going on up there with the local government.
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Grew up on north of the city and learned to fish on the sound and montauk. A dream would be to summer there (montauk)and then winter in the Adirondacks. Both places have unmatched fishing and hunting.....yes theres deer on long island, big ole smasher bucks!! :flex:
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Ha... There is a lot more than just Gosek that should be googled from Oswego. Some crazy stuff going on up there with the local government.
oh yeah i know.....but thats enough to keep one entertained for a while
billybono
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whats wrong with wny ??? fishing and hunting are great and the economy is messed up like every other part of this state ;D
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wherever you go, get a place on a lake or with land to hunt!! if I had to do it, I would pick land to hunt, NEAR a lake with the type of fishing I like to do best...
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I grew up in western NY, spent about 7 years in St Lawarence county and now live in rural rensselaer county near albany. I like where I am now for what it has to offer but I will come out and say what I like least about this area. We are too close to Jersey and NYC. I get tired of the "citiets" coming up in their full size SUV's and 500 dollar hunting outfits and pretending to be sportsmans.
Other than that, I would say the Albany area is great. We have a stable economy. I get 3 to 3.5 months of ice fishing in a year, average 2 to 3 deer, and catch enough stream trout to keep myself happy in the spring and fall.
I my true love is the north country but the work is limited for my wife and I.
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I've been around, and around this great country on many occaisions for many reasons but I find New York to be the best place for me regarding education for me and my children, and my Grandchildren, which was,(is), a priority. The economic advantages outweigh many of the 'Other' advantages of other states due to the proximity of nearly everything else you might want, or need, to do.
It might not be a bad idea to consider your reasons and reasoning for wanting to be in New York due to the taxes and such, but from my own experience each state will, and does, exact it's toll from you in one form or another. When I was in Washington State things were cheaper, untill I found out about registering vehicles,(Very highly Taxed), and some other things.
All in all you have to figure that percentage of your earnings that will be required to maintain the lifestyle you are in tune with or want to maintain. To that end I might also suggest getting an Atlas-Gazeteer map book for about $15. and look at the areas that have, or include the things you want/have to do to enjoy life anywhere.
Select schools, work, and other prioritized needs, draw a circle around each equal to ten miles, twenty miles, and so forth. I am 30 miles from Otesego Lake, Sacandaga, Albany, Schenectady, The upper tide line of the Hudson River for Stripers,(in season), The Catskill Mts., the Adirondack Mtns., the Mohawk River, SUNY Cobleskill, SUNY Albany, on Rt.20 in Carlisle, Schoharie County.
The furthest I travel for all my fun is 110 miles to the Salmon River for that season, then back out of the snowbelt to more hospitable Schoharie County, 20 miles West of Schenectady.
New York is great too, if you like to complain about things. You'll have plenty of complaining company but see few folks leaving. Years ago I evolved this saying, "If you want to see how folks did after leaving New York for a 'Better' place just hang out at home. They'll be back to tell you how bad it was 'Out There'. This in keeping with 'Chainsaw's first Law of Diminishing Enthusiasm'.
I could go on as I'm rather a long winded poster, but we don't know what else you do. Good luck, and let us know what else you may need by way of suggestion or information. There are plenty of websites extolling the virtues of any State but the best sources could be among those sites whose activities and intrests you and your family are interested in, and maintained by the folks like us who actually are involved in them.
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You sure this wasn't started by a Maine guy just to try to divide and conquer. Gee Mac, I wonder why BPS chose Buffalo to build its third largest store in the country. This area must have something!!
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im goin to go with plattsburg on this one !!! i have family up there hunting and fishing is AWESOME !! only set back is finding a decent job but hey there out there!!!! tight lines :tipup:
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What wrong with buffalo. Everything he said is true. We have the best walleye fishing in our state, the best bass and perch fishing. We have some of the best paying jobs here too. Buffalo is a good place to live. The problem everybody around thinks it’s a crap hole. Its not, we have a lot to offer the people here. I lived in the sticks 40 miles south of buffalo but I’m still part of it, I work here and I plan to live here when I retire in a few years. New York State has a lot to offer its people.
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Don’t get your hopes up for bass pro coming here.
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You sure this wasn't started by a Maine guy just to try to divide and conquer.
rotfl !!!!!!!yeah we had better just stick together here ;)
billybono
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I agree with Slip Bob. I've lived in Oneida, Utica, Rodchester, Albany, and Syracuse, and the capital district in the best place to live in New York state. Plenty of hunting and fishing, a lot to do, cool places to go and see, a couple hours drive from Adirondacks, Central New York, Boston, and NYC. One of the best job markets in the state, and the weathers a whole lot nicer than western and central New York.
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I love it up in the hilltowns of Albany County, I can do anything I want really. Lots of nice people, and a hell of alot of secret fishing spots.
Only place better? Maybe Crown Island on the king....I can dream... ;D
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Anything north of 845 is good. I used to live down there, and it's just too busy now. Those moving north from 212 are pricing the locals out. I'm a 585er now.
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Guess I will have to throw my two cents in for CNY. I grew up in the Rochester area and have hunted and fished the area from Rochester to Ogdensburg. If you want quality fishing, you have to be close to Ontario and the St. Lawrence River. I now live south of Utica and east of Syracuse, just about dead center of the state. Very hilly and heavily wooded, many small lakes and excellent trout streams. Whitetails and Turkeys everywhere you turn. I can be anywhere in NYS in 3 hours. People with good life skills can find good work anywhere. I can hunt in the Northern Zone in 35 minutes, hunt with a rifle here in Oneida County. Oneida Lake is still the Perch and Walleye Capitol of NYS and is only 20 minutes from here. The Oriskany Creek flows through my back yard and I am only an hour and a half from the Delaware River. I get first ice, first snowfall (150 inches per year). I can be on Sodus Bay in two hours and Lake of the Isles in 2 1/2 hours. I wouldn't live near Albany or Buffalo for all the money in the world. Rochester and Syracuse are great small cities without all the blood-sucking politicians and Union bull-crap. CNY Rocks!
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Man o man... there are so many quality replies here.. I am going to have to re-read all of them a few times.
So many choices....
What areas should I avoid in the capitall region?
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Man o man... there are so many quality replies here.. I am going to have to re-read all of them a few times.
So many choices....
What areas should I avoid in the capitall region?
Arbor Hill! The best part of the capital region is you can live in Colonie, and be in the woods or on the water in less than a hour ride in just about any direction. I used to hunt up in Half Moon, and down in Cobolskill (lots of state land).
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Gee. I have a house for sale in Colonie. A five bedroom 'Fixer Upper' with a two car garage on a corner1/4 acre lot, with producing pear trees, and a witches brew of herbs in the garden, and a two year old furnace on a hot water heating system. My neice is living there 'till spring when they can move into their own place.
I'm currently West of Albany, on Rt.20, in Carlisle, not too far from anything, and lovin' it.
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Stay out of the cities of Albany, Schenectady, Troy. Look more for the suburbs or rural areas such as hill towns of albany and schenectady countys or schoharie, montgomery, Fulton, saratoga, renssalear counties.
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South Glens Falls
In the middle of the King and some of the best hunting in NY
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Can't beat Madison County. It is right in the center of the state. Tons of great fishing nearby. I don't hunt, but there's alot of great hunting in the area. Best of all, being in the center of the state, you're no more that a few hours from everywhere, just point the truck and go.
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Saratoga Springs. Great hunting and fishing close by and lots to do dowtown, SPAC, racetrack, etc in the heat of the summer.
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BUFFALO HAS ITS ALL HANDS DOWN CATCH A BIG ONE
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I'm reading all the (my areas better than your area) and I find it all to be true. Anywhere in NYS you can find a job and affordable property is a plus. The outdoors activities abound in this great state.From lake Erie and Ontario to the Fingerlakes and north to the St Lawrence river down through the Adirondacks through the Hudson valley to the Catskills the Southerntiere and to the ocean.It really does make it a choice of what do you really like to hunt , fish or trap for the most.I live in the Fingerlakes and travel the country some and there's no place like home.Everywhere I look in NYS I see what a lot of states wish they had! Good luck!
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I never saw you catch a walleye!!! only bass. guess i will have to show you how its done this winter.
recordbreaker, from what I hear the only record you hold is the most consecutive days w/out landing a fish..lol
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Well my choice for the best place to live in NY has to be Buffalo as well, even if the question was, where is the best place to live in the whole world? After I finish this last bit of military time I will be back there and ready to hit all the hotspots again starting with a 3 month ice fishing trek in 2007 to my favorite lake in NY; Chautauqua. Also, 2007's Ice Team NY tournament is on the agenda as well. But, to stay on the subject, between the food, Lake Erie, neighborhoods, and locality in regards to other great fishing destinations like Oneida, Cuba, Chautauqua, and Silver Lake. Buffalo hands down will be the place that I call home again in December 2006. I've been all over and so far nothing comes close!
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Saratoga Springs. Great hunting and fishing close by and lots to do dowtown, SPAC, racetrack, etc in the heat of the summer.
I'm with you (well, Ballston Spa). If you don't believe us, ask Bill Parcells, he's building a huge house in Saratoga.
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northern maine hands down. the last true willderness area in the northeast. half of your buddies are up here trying for one of our 300lb whitetails or our 60in. plus moose. the great allagash ! maine rules baby!!
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northern maine hands down. the last true willderness area in the northeast. half of your buddies are up here trying for one of our 300lb whitetails or our 60in. plus moose. the great allagash ! maine rules baby!!
The topic was best place to live in New York, bud...
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BUFFALO HAS ITS ALL HANDS DOWN CATCH A BIG ONE
heck yes...lake erie alone is the best fishing on the planet. the only great lake that freezes over entirely, the perch fishing is RIDICULOUS and the summer smallies are mammoth.
the smaller lakes offer some excellent variety, and we are a 1.5 hour hike away from the southern tier for some great hunting.
oh, and our bars are open till 4 ;D
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I have to say saratoga county is a very nice area ,with many nice hunting and fishing area's.
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well i think the best place to live in new york would be directly in the middle of it...so know matter which way you go you will be leaving....( just my opinion)...zeke..
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I think we can all agree on one thing... that the state of New York is a sportsman paradise!
I lived in Northern Virginia for 3.5 years and missed the fishing terribly! I am now back in Rochester, where are there are no less than a dozen excellent places to fish less than an hour from my house, including a great trout stream a half mile from my house in the suburbs!
I grew just north of Buffalo. My only complaints are that Lake Erie takes too long to freeze and the job market wasn't that great. However, you can't beat the cost of housing there in WNY.
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Chenango/Madison counties-awesome fishing,hunting and just plain lovin the outdoors.Resonable housing costs with some towns having municipal power-say avg cost per month 30.00$ yeah 30 dollars a month for electricity.Very nice school distiricts.Jobs do vary but there are many in the human services feild-like ARC and such.You can be on the Salmon River in 1 1/2 hours.Youre not too far from the Adirondaks.Oneida Lake is less than an hour away.Nice semi crime free area to raise a family.Not to mention the area is very picturesqe.Come visit and you'll see.The madison county chain rocks to icefish.Peace and One Love Happy 420 and all that BigD
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Livonia, NY
2 min from Conesus Lake
5 min from Hemlock Lake
7 min from Canadice Lake
12 min from Honeoyo Lake
30 min from Oatka Creek
35 min from Canandaigua Lake
45 min From Lake Ontario
1 hr from Cayuga Lake & Keuka Lake
1 hr and 30 min from Lake Erie
1 hr 20 min from southern tier hunting
3 hrs from the Adirondacks
Smack dab in the middle of NY is the place to be other than the taxes.
Mike
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New York sucks, stay away, we dont have no stinkin, fish, deer, turkey, or anything for that matter. Just kidding! I grew up in the Greater Glens Falls area and I have to say my heart will always be there. Great place to raise a family. Lake George in your backyard. Albany 45 mins away, the Civic Center, great hospital, Skiing at West Mountain, you cant beat it.
Jason
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I'm just glad to be alive to fish any place i choose in this state
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Central NY, Syracuse area. 40 minutes to Lake Ontario and Salmon River, an hour to the Adirondacks, an hour+ to the St. Lawrence, 20 minutes to the Finger Lakes, tons of State Land within 30 minutes. Now if we just had some jobs here....