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Offline big-bass

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Cisco in Susquehanna County PA
« on: Jan 01, 2024, 09:53 AM »
Good morning and Happy New Year everyone!  I have heard that some lakes in Susquehanna County have Cisco as the forage species.  Can anyone confirm this?  I always thought this area was mostly made up of Common or Golden Shiner, Alewife (though introduced), etc. as the forage species for bass and walleye.  Thanks for your help and if you have caught them, are they much bigger than Alewives?  It would be cool to see a picture of one caught locally if they do exist in this area.

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Re: Cisco in Susquehanna County PA
« Reply #1 on: Jan 06, 2024, 07:45 AM »
Highly unlikely

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Re: Cisco in Susquehanna County PA
« Reply #2 on: Jan 06, 2024, 11:10 AM »
I have found information leading me to believe that they were once introduced into Harvey’s Lake around the late 1960s, and that would make sense as smelt, lake trout and other salmonid species were often stocked there.

A guy fishing next to me caught a Cisco out of Sodus Bay a few years back. it was around 10 inches long. There’s really no mistaking what they are. Look for the presence of an adipose fin, that should be the easiest way to differentiate between being a member of the Cisco family or something like an alewife.

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Re: Cisco in Susquehanna County PA
« Reply #3 on: Jan 16, 2024, 09:24 AM »
You may be thinking of Crystal Lake in Luzerne County which is private AFAIK...

https://www.crystallakeleague.com/files/documents/e3474ae1-52ad-4faf-a880-0ef2263d6732.pdf

"New Research Underway on Cisco in Crystal Lake, Pennsylvania
October 26, 2021
Fishery researchers from the US Geological Survey, Great Lakes Fishery Commission, and Pennsylvania Boat and
Fish Commission are proposing to study the Cisco population of Crystal Lake during 2021-2022. This population is
thought to have originated from Lake Erie. During the 1800s and early 1900s, Cisco eggs from Lake Erie were reared
at the State Fish Hatchery in Erie, Pennsylvania, and stocked back into Lake Erie to enhance the population. The
availability of Cisco eggs also led to transplantation into inland lakes. Many of these inland transplants were
successful, but almost all of the resulting populations eventually died out owing to introduced species and excessive
shoreline development. Crystal Lake supports the last known transplanted population of Cisco, making it of
considerable interest—the Cisco population of Lake Erie has been lost. The research in Crystal Lake is aimed at
answering this question: “What is the feasibility of initiating reintroduction of Cisco in Lake Erie using a hatchery
broodstock created from Crystal Lake eggs.”
Before reintroduction of Cisco in Lake Erie can be considered, four questions need to be answered by the research
team:

1. Did the founding population in Crystal Lake actually originate from Lake Erie? The State Fish Hatchery at
times borrowed Cisco eggs originating from Lake Ontario.
2. Does the Cisco of Crystal Lake retain the traits of the former Lake Erie population? These traits may have
been lost during decades of adaptation to Crystal Lake.
3. How big is the spawning population in Crystal Lake—could it safely support establishment of a hatchery
brood stock?
4. Is the Crystal Lake population inbred? If the population originated from only a few founders, it may be
genetically unsuitable as a brood stock.
The fieldwork will involve sampling for Ciscoes around late November-December when Cisco spawn. Sampling will
involve several types of nets and electrofishing. About 20 Ciscoes will be retained for morphological and genetic
assessment.

The lake trout in Crystal Lake are also of interest and if captured several will be retained for genetic testing.
A report of the research findings will be presented to the owners of Crystal Lake. If establishment of a broodstock is
determined to be feasible, permission from the owners to take a predetermined number of eggs will be sought. Then,
if the owners approve, the fish-management arms of the US states that border Lake Erie and the Province of Ontario
will decide whether to initiate reintroduction of Cisco. These agencies, working under the aegis of the Great Lakes
Fishery Commission, will consult with experts and stakeholders before making a decision on whether to proceed with
reintroduction.
The potential benefits of restoring the Lake Erie Cisco are considerable. Lake Erie once supported the largest
freshwater fishery in the world, yielding in its heyday 20-35 million pounds of Cisco annually. A restored Cisco
population could support sport and commercial fisheries and provide food for top predators like Walleye and Lake
Trout. Recent research as shown that Lake Erie is environmentally suitable for Cisco. A restored population is an
alluring goal and would be a direct benefit from the massive investment made to clean up the lake.
If you have any questions regarding the research, please contact….

Aaron Frey
Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission
5566 Main Road
Sweet Valley, PA 18656
570-477-2090
[email protected]"

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Re: Cisco in Susquehanna County PA
« Reply #4 on: Jan 16, 2024, 06:21 PM »
Crystal Lake is NNW of Carbondale and is divided by the border of Susquehanna/Lackawanna counties.

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Re: Cisco in Susquehanna County PA
« Reply #5 on: Jan 16, 2024, 07:29 PM »
Crystal Lake is NNW of Carbondale and is divided by the border of Susquehanna/Lackawanna counties.

It makes more sense that it would be that Crystal Lake, I always assumed it was the one owned by the water company in Bear Creek.

 



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