25 or 30 ft of water is a good place to start. they swim with the smelts. once you start catching them from a tipup, drill a few holes in a circle around it and start jigging. you,ll have a blast. filleted white perch deep fried is my favorete. also steve, try longfellow lake south of houlton. big perch there. i know a few others in the area also i can pm you. good luck. won,t be long.