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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #20 on: Aug 19, 2017, 10:21 AM »

Some have went to led but not many for there flashers I don't think helix from humming bird has but not sure..
Humminbird Helix units have a TFT display.
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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #21 on: Aug 19, 2017, 04:32 PM »
Wich is still lcd ..

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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #22 on: Aug 19, 2017, 07:16 PM »
True, but TFT or active matrix screens don't slow down in a cold environment like passive matrix does. Humminbird had a Helix 5 Ice and a Helix 7 Ice last year. I think the Helix 5 Ice has been dropped for this year. Might have to pick up an ice ducer for my Helix 7 this winter.
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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #23 on: Aug 19, 2017, 10:42 PM »
The helix 5 and 7 are now gen 2 models with chirp and several other ehanced features

The tft, led backlit, bonded glass screens of the helix series are the best in the industry for brightness contrast and direct sunlight viewing. There is 0 lag with real time sonar and excellent display

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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #24 on: Aug 19, 2017, 11:39 PM »
True, but TFT or active matrix screens don't slow down in a cold environment like passive matrix does. Humminbird had a Helix 5 Ice and a Helix 7 Ice last year. I think the Helix 5 Ice has been dropped for this year. Might have to pick up an ice ducer for my Helix 7 this winter.

Same screen in my x67c is a tft active same as humming bird helix  going to have same problems as I stated earlier..

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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #25 on: Aug 20, 2017, 10:01 AM »
Time will tell. Mine is a Chirp GPS G2 with an LED TFT screen.
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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #26 on: Aug 20, 2017, 11:06 AM »
Same screen in my x67c is a tft active same as humming bird helix  going to have same problems as I stated earlier..

they're completely different actually - tft's have come a long way in the last 15 years lol. your old lowrance has low resolution with low pixel count - each pixel has a transistor, each transistor helps keep the screen warm in cold temps. You're display isn't bonded to the glass and is liely backlit with incidecent or cfl bulbs - humminbird is lit with led's and is bonded to the glass. Hummbird displays 16bit color while your lowrance only displays maybe 8 bit color (more likely less than that). Any modern color tft will not slow down in the cold

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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #27 on: Aug 20, 2017, 07:52 PM »
Time will tell. Mine is a Chirp GPS G2 with an LED TFT screen.


Are you sure about it being led??

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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #28 on: Aug 20, 2017, 08:56 PM »
It's still LCD active matrix and used for ice fishing navigation. Don't think I'll get a transducer for the ice until my old fashioned LX5 and FL18 quit breathing. Still like the old round display.
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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #29 on: Aug 20, 2017, 09:23 PM »
That sounds about right..  heard the there going brushless on the vexs and been hearing that a lot of marcums are junk.. still waiting to get my gear out to find my lowrace elite 4x don't work..  it was acting up when I put it away last year..  and humming bird was no champ either with their customer service.. seems like all the Chinese electonics are junk now a days??  What happened to Japanese electronics ?? Of the 80's ? Stuff till works my dad bought in the early 80's .. seems like every thing made now Is crap?? Then they change the soft ware so that fish finder in 10 to 20 years is oUT dated and not usable any more to down.load  new maps it like going from windows 32 bit to windows 64 bit every thing gets up graded so fast it not worth sinking money in the latest technology any more cause nothing is forever.. I may pick up a vex this year like a fl8 who needs all the fancy stuff most of all when it don't work right half the time?? I drop 200 to 400 in to a good vex I kick my self  cause it broke or some thing similar. . Lol's that's why I by the $100 vex or lowrace..   buy the way if it gets cold out how do you thing you gps will work.. that's why I got the hand held gps.. so I can keep in my coat so the batteries and screen will work when need.. any how that why I will stick with the hand held gps and not the ff gps .. I know the screens much bigger easier to read but will it work when cold?? Most of all when needed.. some white out conditions and getting lost is a big posibilty on the great lakes..

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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #30 on: Aug 20, 2017, 10:13 PM »
I think the Vex FLX28 is a brushless unit and I don't know what they plan on for the rest. My son is using the Micronar FL8 I bought used about 35 years ago. Can't seem to kill it.
     I switched over to Humminbird when Lowrance stopped supporting their units more than three years old. I have been using a Humminbird 597 for navigation on the ice and it will be replaced by the Helix 7 Chirp this winter. I also put a heated hard cab on my Yamaha Viking this summer. No more cold wind in this old geezers face when driving on the ice. lol I will also have a handheld GPS with me for backup since we have white outs here fairly often. Been caught in them before and it was nice to have track back. I almost bought a Helix 7 Ice last winter, but decided to wait. I ended up buying a Helix 7 Chirp and a Helix 9 Chirp in the spring. I guess all I need is a transducer for the ice to go digital.
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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #31 on: Aug 21, 2017, 10:02 AM »
We're they made in China or else ware?? My x67c is malaysia the x4 was china and wondering if this season it will work??  my gps  hand held garmin made in Taiwan still works good lap  Toshiba made in China acts up same with my  Sanyo  TV made in China really acts up..  seems we went and made a ton of junk In China and now we find out there products aren't that good.. the manufacturer  country should be stamped in plastic or on a peramanet tag fixed to the units .. next time you look at the finders post it up.. that's why I am geting to the point of reading tags .. if its made else ware it lasts a while.. that why I don't put all my eggs in one basket  any more..  cause most is been made in China lately..  I think the humming bird would be fine same with marcum.. it's what do you pick when you know they all got problems?? like the software from marcum was not showing the upper Two inches of screen last year... them every one else is complaining humming bird don't have customer service cause they don't answer there phone lols.. same with lowrance having power up issues.. on their units  that's why I mentioned garmin but their gps base models maps suck and not as up dateable as say humming bird or lowrance..  that's the striker series .. it's really a gamble now adays that's why I say to buy a spare hand held gps  for just such a emergency.. I know the e trex 10 is $75 at cabelas right now.. got to remember cell services is not always there and you get lost in a white out your worst off with no bearings were to go or wich way to head..  if your flasher takes a dive.. humming bird use to make stuff in Japan I don't thing they make theirs there any more ? They use to have really good fish finders that stood the test of time .. now every thing is cheapest source for parts and who cares if it works past 3 years cause the warranty is only a year..

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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #32 on: Aug 21, 2017, 01:06 PM »
Humminbird is manufactured in Alabama and Marcum in Minnesota.
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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #33 on: Aug 21, 2017, 02:22 PM »
Humminbird is manufactured in Alabama and Marcum in Minnesota.


Are you sure that's not us. Head quarters ?? We're they sell imported items and use that address for tax reasons ??

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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #34 on: Aug 21, 2017, 02:52 PM »
100% sure the helix, onyx, solix and core units for humminbird are made in the US - marcum too

The LED's are behind the tft, the tft just creates color, led's shine light though them like film and a bulb in an old projector

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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #35 on: Aug 21, 2017, 02:56 PM »

Are you sure that's not us. Head quarters ?? We're they sell imported items and use that address for tax reasons ??
Designed, engineered and manufactured at a state of the art facility in Eufaula, Alabama. Started as Techsonic in 1971. The first Humminbird depthsounders were modified Heathkit units. Bought by Johnson Outdoors in 2004. Google is my friend. ;)
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Re: Buying a new flasher
« Reply #36 on: Aug 21, 2017, 06:11 PM »
Ya just looked at the humming bird my dad has its made in USA that spurprised me that it's made in USA.. most electronic are not.. like this lowrance x4 I got in this picture made in mexico.. the Garmin is made in Malaysia if you want a picture of that I will show it to you.. my x67c did not had a made in stamp or tag on it.. on a side note the x4 did power up when I looked at it to my surprize lol's .. hope this pictures not to big..




 


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