X2 Power Lithium Iron Phosphate battery

[MNMountainMan]

So I found two of these batteries for real cheap at Batteries Plus the other day, and I can't find *ANYTHING* online about them. Their website doesn't even have anything on them!

XLFP12-7F2
12V 7Ah 84Wh

How do I charge this battery?
What are the safety considerations when using/charging this battery?

I just want to use them for the Vexilar and for a light box that I am building, but I guess I can't use my lead-acid battery charger?
I'd post a pic on here but I don't know how...

[Incognito]

I've google the heck out of it, but can't even find the battery you are talking about.  Link?

[Spoondangler]

Look on the rapala site, they sell a similar one and a special charger.  Is that the same?

[shootsmcgee]

That sounds weird, a lithium iron battery with the same physical dimensions as the OEM SLA should be at least 9ah or more. Plus they're expensive, minimum 100 bucks. A 1/3 the weight though, i'm currently looking for one myself.

[BobOlink]

I did find them on their web site with info and they do need a special charger

[bee]

Take a look at this battery.
http://www.powerstream.com/LLLF-12v-4.5ah.htm

[MichiganMan]

A regular SLA charger will work but will only charge them to about 75 to 80%. That being said, that battery at 75% will last at least as long or longer than a standard 9ah SLA battery.

[Maizen]

I got 2 of these http://www.dakotalithiumbattery.com/ to try for my elite 5

[MNMountainMan]

I've google the heck out of it, but can't even find the battery you are talking about.  Link?

I can't find *ANYTHING* on the internet about this exact battery. I even called Batteries Plus HQ and they didn't know anything...

The internet knows nothing about this specific battery, which is crazy.

[MNMountainMan]

That sounds weird, a lithium iron battery with the same physical dimensions as the OEM SLA should be at least 9ah or more. Plus they're expensive, minimum 100 bucks. A 1/3 the weight though, i'm currently looking for one myself.

The Ice Force battery at Rapala looks and sounds kind of similar, but mine have a mini-blade fuse on the side of the cover and there is a little four prong connector next to the fuse.

These are super light- I picked one up and I thought it was a display model- you know, without the guts! Nope, these are real batteries!

I think the smaller Ah is because they should last so much longer than a SLA?

The story goes that a guy ordered a bunch of these at a store an hour up the road, and then returned them to a different store. The lady at the store asked me to let her know how they work for me, because she didn't know much about them!

[MNMountainMan]

I did find them on their web site with info and they do need a special charger

Hmmm.... I couldn't find this exact battery on their website, and the lady at HQ couldn't either. She kept asking me what the application was... and that these batteries were not specified for that application. SMH

Now she sent me a data sheet on it- but it still doesn't tell me what I want to know. In this battery there should be a circuit board that allows the use of a regular lead-acid battery charger into working with it, but she couldn't tell me that.

[MNMountainMan]

Take a look at this battery.
http://www.powerstream.com/LLLF-12v-4.5ah.htm

And looking at what they say about this battery leads me to believe that I can use an SLA charger with these XLFP12-7F2.

I'd post a pic of these but I can't seem to figure out how to do that!

A regular SLA charger will work but will only charge them to about 75 to 80%. That being said, that battery at 75% will last at least as long or longer than a standard 9ah SLA battery.

How does that work? Can you point me in a direction of where to find that info so I can look further into it?

That sounds weird, a lithium iron battery with the same physical dimensions as the OEM SLA should be at least 9ah or more. Plus they're expensive, minimum 100 bucks. A 1/3 the weight though, i'm currently looking for one myself.

I basically stole these batteries because they didn't know anything about them at the store.

[shootsmcgee]

I got 2 of these http://www.dakotalithiumbattery.com/ to try for my elite 5

Those are the proper LiFeP04 batteries for the Vexilar FL flasher units.

MountainMan, are you talking batteries for the Vex FL units or something else??? The physical dimensions for Vex FL batteries are a generic
L=5.96 W=2.56 and H=3.56 and there's no room for wiggle she's a tight fit in these units. (you can go smaller obviously but that wouldn't make any sense) For a lithium iron battery you need a lithium iron battery charger, it's actually a two step charger and anything else will probably just wreck it or shorten the life span.

[Incognito]

Check this company out.  Good reviews and I found what looks to be an independent discharge test/graph indicating that the 20Ah battery actually had 19.88Ah.  My Shorai 36 model is 36Ah pb equiv.  In reality it probably is more like a 9-10Ah.  The shorai is more of a starting battery providing 650CCA.  Bioenno has deep cycle as well as starting lifepo batteries.

https://www.bioennopower.com/collections/12v-series-lifepo4-batteries

I'll have a 20Ah one in a few days and do my own discharge test.  Like someone above said, you have to have a special charger for LiFePo batteries to get the full charge.  My battery tenders only bring the SLA batteries to 13.2ish volts.  LiFePo needs to charge to 14.6 to get the full Ah's.  Charging with the battery tender would be fine, but I'd only get 75% of the full charge.

Inc

[Whytie]

I got 2 of these http://www.dakotalithiumbattery.com/ to try for my elite 5

I have the same battery running my marcum for the last 2 years. be sure to buy the correct charger. You don't want to over charge any lithium battery it will damage the battery or worst start a fire.

[bee]

Take a look at this battery.
http://www.powerstream.com/LLLF-12v-4.5ah.htm

Price of this batt. is only 60 bucks. I am on my third year and it has never gone dead in my trips.

[sra61]

I got 2 of these http://www.dakotalithiumbattery.com/ to try for my elite 5

I bought one of these last year for my LX9. It will run my machine for two full days! I bought a Genius 3500 charger for it and it works good. The only thing I did was to cut the plug off of the original charger and make a little pigtail so that I don't have to take the battery out of the machine's case to charge with the big alligator clips on the Genius charger.

[Spoondangler]

I bought one of these last year for my LX9. It will run my machine for two full days! I bought a Genius 3500 charger for it and it works good. The only thing I did was to cut the plug off of the original charger and make a little pigtail so that I don't have to take the battery out of the machine's case to charge with the big alligator clips on the Genius charger.

Did you get the 7 ah or the 9?

[sra61]

This battery it's 10 Ah. It's lighter than the old lead acid batteries by quite a bit too. I'm never going back I can tell you.
http://www.dakotalithiumbattery.com/