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Title: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. OVERLOAD PROTECTION TEST
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 11, 2018, 05:32 PM
Heres my initial review of the new Rigid Octane Hammer Drill with  Best In Class 1300 in/lb of torque. I used this with my 4 year old 8" Nils Trekker Auger. This combo is a BEAST!! Check it out if your looking to get into a drill for ice fishing!!

INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW


MID SEASON UPDATE


25” OF ICE
 


Why I picked the Nils over the KDrill. 


OVERLOAD PROTECTION TEST
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: Cub on Dec 12, 2018, 04:20 AM
Good review! Thanks
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: Kopower on Dec 12, 2018, 07:02 AM
I was really impressed with mine, spinning an 8" K Drill.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: Gunflint on Dec 12, 2018, 07:08 AM
Great job on the video. Very informative.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: stinkyfingers on Dec 12, 2018, 08:10 AM
I wish all the features and benefits videos we see posted were as well executed as yours. Simple and to the point. No BS. That's a hot knife rig you have there.  I had my 8" Nils

rigged to a Fuel last year but it never cut as smoothly as you show. I added a Clam plate to give more control and that helped and this year went with the Ridgid Octane spinning a

7" Nero. The Clam plate seems to add a wobble element that's not present in your setup. I'm going to try strapping the Nero directly to the Octane this weekend, maybe with a

Kovac adaptor and see if I can get that wobble out of there. It cuts well but it feels like a 7" Nero is boring an 8" hole.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: Sandcountrylivin on Dec 12, 2018, 08:21 AM
Hey stinky I run a new ridged-kovac-clam extension-Nero auger and there is little to no wobble. That is only true on my first hole and then I feel a little bit of looseness. It is the wing nut connecting my clam extension to the kovac. It loosens by just the slightest bit from bung hole tight and creates a little wobble. I intend to replace the wing nut with an Allen bolt that should have my system rock solid.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: stinkyfingers on Dec 12, 2018, 09:37 AM
Hey stinky I run a new ridged-kovac-clam extension-Nero auger and there is little to no wobble. That is only true on my first hole and then I feel a little bit of looseness. It is the wing nut connecting my clam extension to the kovac. It loosens by just the slightest bit from bung hole tight and creates a little wobble. I intend to replace the wing nut with an Allen bolt that should have my system rock solid.
I'll see what I can figure out on my end. The only real downside to the Clam that I've found is that slop built into the shaft bearing. Having said that, it's a good way to help grapple with all that torque.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: SLAYERFISH on Dec 12, 2018, 09:53 AM
Just a few observations.

 Its warm out with white (soft) ice.

17.4 lbs is heavy. My fuel setup weighs 11lbs.

Otherwise I'm sure it works just fine! ;D

Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: tswoboda on Dec 12, 2018, 10:15 AM
Just a few observations.

 Its warm out with white (soft) ice.

17.4 lbs is heavy. My fuel setup weighs 11lbs.

Otherwise I'm sure it works just fine! ;D
Poopoo parade has arrived.

I bet you don't have a nils auger, they're like 5 lbs heavier than other hand augers or the k-drill.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: SLAYERFISH on Dec 12, 2018, 10:27 AM
Poopoo parade has arrived.

I bet you don't have a nils auger, they're like 5 lbs heavier than other hand augers or the k-drill.

No I dont use a NILS.  Dont need the extra weight.

Hey it was merely an observation. I'm sorry I forgot you NILS guys are wound a little tight! ;D
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 12, 2018, 11:26 AM
Great job on the video. Very informative.
Thanks.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 12, 2018, 11:28 AM
I wish all the features and benefits videos we see posted were as well executed as yours. Simple and to the point. No BS. That's a hot knife rig you have there.  I had my 8" Nils

rigged to a Fuel last year but it never cut as smoothly as you show. I added a Clam plate to give more control and that helped and this year went with the Ridgid Octane spinning a

7" Nero. The Clam plate seems to add a wobble element that's not present in your setup. I'm going to try strapping the Nero directly to the Octane this weekend, maybe with a

Kovac adaptor and see if I can get that wobble out of there. It cuts well but it feels like a 7" Nero is boring an 8" hole.
I initially thought I’d have to get a clam plate, but after what I felt this weekend, I won’t. It was more than comfortable. The frame on the octane is a little bigger than the Milwaukee 1200, so I think that helped with the stability as well.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 12, 2018, 11:31 AM
Just a few observations.

 Its warm out with white (soft) ice.

17.4 lbs is heavy. My fuel setup weighs 11lbs.

Otherwise I'm sure it works just fine! ;D
Definitely a little heavier than some set ups.  The Nils is 100% steel which packs a few extra pounds on. The octane is a little heavier as well.

It was 20D, starting temp of zero, so it was still cold. Most of the ice I cut through was 5-6” of black ice, with 1-2” of top white ice. It was all solid.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: pmaloney86 on Dec 12, 2018, 11:53 AM
For those using shaver blades, like the nero or mora.  Does the auger catch at the end of the hole?
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: NateD on Dec 12, 2018, 12:54 PM
For those using shaver blades, like the nero or mora.  Does the auger catch at the end of the hole?

For me they do, always have even doing it by hand.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: zubie on Dec 12, 2018, 12:59 PM
pmaloney86 - I am using the Ridgid Octane hammer drill with a new 7" Mora and yes there is a pretty harsh catch as I break thru the bottom of the ice... that is really my only complaint about the setup as I came from a 700+lb brushless Hitachi hammer drill and 6" lazer and did not experience this same type of catch.  It definitely helps to lift up on the auger, but I was not able to eliminate the "catch" completely.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 12, 2018, 01:00 PM
For me they do, always have even doing it by hand.
I’ve tried a strikemaster and  Eskimo hand auger, both shaver and both wanted to bind up at the bottom of the hole.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: pmaloney86 on Dec 12, 2018, 02:50 PM
pmaloney86 - I am using the Ridgid Octane hammer drill with a new 7" Mora and yes there is a pretty harsh catch as I break thru the bottom of the ice... that is really my only complaint about the setup as I came from a 700+lb brushless Hitachi hammer drill and 6" lazer and did not experience this same type of catch.  It definitely helps to lift up on the auger, but I was not able to eliminate the "catch" completely.

Thank you!  I ended up getting the clam conversion kit due to this.  My girlfriend and less experienced people will be using it and I don't want anyone getting hurt.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: zubie on Dec 12, 2018, 03:01 PM
pmaloney86 - I use the Clam plate with mine as well and can't imagine using this new Octane/Mora combo without it.  Yes the plate adds weight, but as far as being able to control the auger when it catches the bottom it is totally worth the added weight to me.  If you haven't already seen the posts regarding the Clam plate trigger modification I would look for the thread, it is a nice upgrade for ~$6. Enjoy the new setup, I am amazed with the cutting ability.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 12, 2018, 03:02 PM
Thank you!  I ended up getting the clam conversion kit due to this.  My girlfriend and less experienced people will be using it and I don't want anyone getting hurt.
Sounds like a good plan! Thinking this rigid would be rough with an auger that bit at the end of a cut.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: 800stealth on Dec 12, 2018, 03:55 PM
I wish all the features and benefits videos we see posted were as well executed as yours. Simple and to the point. No BS. That's a hot knife rig you have there.  I had my 8" Nils

rigged to a Fuel last year but it never cut as smoothly as you show. I added a Clam plate to give more control and that helped and this year went with the Ridgid Octane spinning a

7" Nero. The Clam plate seems to add a wobble element that's not present in your setup. I'm going to try strapping the Nero directly to the Octane this weekend, maybe with a

Kovac adaptor and see if I can get that wobble out of there. It cuts well but it feels like a 7" Nero is boring an 8" hole.

6" Nero with a clam extension direct to my fuel with a home machined adapter but she spins very true, to be honest I expected more wobble but it's strait and smooth, as mentioned above I tossed the wing nuts and replaced with allen head bolts to crank it nice and tight..

And nice video Pike
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 12, 2018, 04:28 PM


And nice video Pike

Thanks!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: 4Buck on Dec 13, 2018, 09:14 AM
Used my Octane with a Eskimo 8in. hand auger for the first time, you had better hang on when it breaks through or it will pull you right down to the ice. Man this thing really cuts though. I put it on a Clam Plate and can't imagine running it without one. I used a universal extension because I could not find a 12in. Ion. I can't believe how much bang and pop there is with this set up, I guess it's just the brake in the drill but sure makes a lot of noise. Not sure if it would help using the Ion extension instead of the Trophy Angler universal extension?
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Dec 13, 2018, 09:20 AM
Let off the trigger slowly.less internal braking with the drill that way.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 13, 2018, 09:45 AM
Used my Octane with a Eskimo 8in. hand auger for the first time, you had better hang on when it breaks through or it will pull you right down to the ice. Man this thing really cuts though. I put it on a Clam Plate and can't imagine running it without one. I used a universal extension because I could not find a 12in. Ion. I can't believe how much bang and pop there is with this set up, I guess it's just the brake in the drill but sure makes a lot of noise. Not sure if it would help using the Ion extension instead of the Trophy Angler universal extension?
Im not sure, I don't have any experiences with these extensions. But I could see where the breakthrough bite could be rough with the shave type blades. I don't feel any bite with my nils, so thinking I wont need a clam plate.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: fishnhawk on Dec 13, 2018, 11:20 AM
I used my Octane with a Mora 6" on a Clam plate last weekend and I thought it worked great. Very little grab, blew through the 5" of ice we had. I love it! I may get an extension and sell my Strike Master Lite.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: 4Buck on Dec 13, 2018, 01:30 PM
I used my Octane with a Mora 6" on a Clam plate last weekend and I thought it worked great. Very little grab, blew through the 5" of ice we had. I love it! I may get an extension and sell my Strike Master Lite.


Did you have a extension?
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 13, 2018, 01:45 PM
I used my Octane with a Mora 6" on a Clam plate last weekend and I thought it worked great. Very little grab, blew through the 5" of ice we had. I love it! I may get an extension and sell my Strike Master Lite.
Awesome. Glad it worked well for you. I’ve thought about selling my Strikemaster Lazer Pro too, if I didn’t fish for pike so much I’d get rid of it. I like the 10” for late season!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: fishnhawk on Dec 13, 2018, 02:03 PM
I did not.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: mistertwister on Dec 13, 2018, 03:27 PM
I can’t wait to try this, got my 7” Nero the other day, Rigid is coming for Christmas. I’m going to start out without the clam plate and see what happens.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 13, 2018, 04:48 PM
I can’t wait to try this, got my 7” Nero the other day, Rigid is coming for Christmas. I’m going to start out without the clam plate and see what happens.
I thought all you guys typing Nero was just an auto correct for Nils. Just checked out the Nero and it looks like a nice little auger. Saw a vid of a guy using one with a drill and I looked like it ripped!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Dec 13, 2018, 05:42 PM
I’m going to start out without the clam plate and see what happens.

Hoping your username isn't a premonition of the condition of your wrist...

Let us know how she flys, good luck!!

<°)))>{
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Dec 13, 2018, 05:46 PM
Did you have a extension?

Doesn't matter which extension you use, as far as catching at the bottom of the hole, or anything as far as how it drills, catches, or cuts..

<°)))>{
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: Icefisher40 on Dec 14, 2018, 05:48 AM
Just a few observations.

 Its warm out with white (soft) ice.

17.4 lbs is heavy. My fuel setup weighs 11lbs.

Otherwise I'm sure it works just fine! ;D

Fortunately it appears that Pike has the upper body strength to handle that big bad 17lb auger.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: mistertwister on Dec 14, 2018, 07:26 AM
Hoping your username isn't a premonition of the condition of your wrist...

Let us know how she flys, good luck!!

<°)))>{

Now you guys are making me nervous! Is this catching because of the type of auger? Or the drills power just makes it worse? Seems like the videos I’ve watched online you can’t really see the augers catching
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: 800stealth on Dec 14, 2018, 07:42 AM
Now you guys are making me nervous! Is this catching because of the type of auger? Or the drills power just makes it worse? Seems like the videos I’ve watched online you can’t really see the augers catching

Its a combination of both... Shavers are more likely to grab when breaking through and the big drills are spinning the bit at a pretty high speed with a lot of torque. Once my bit is started in the hole I stand in a way the the drill is braced against my hip or thigh so if it does grab it will push on me instead of trying twist around.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: littlepineguy on Dec 14, 2018, 08:47 AM
I started without the torque handle or the clam plate, just bracing the drill against my body and that was fine.  It gets a little more awkward as the ice has thickened so I attached the auxiliary handle that came with the Ridgid and I plan to stick with that.  The catching really isn't bad, especially once you establish ice thickness and can slow the cut near the bottom (not the drill, just lift up a bit to stop the blades from cutting so deep, because that's what they want to do!) It's actually really a smooth finish when you get the hang of it, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it mistertwister.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: 3300 on Dec 14, 2018, 09:31 AM
lazer augers seem to catch at the bottom of the hole. more so if you have heavy items weighing it down like clam plates and big batteries. these hand auger were meant for the the weight of the handle to beon top if this helps you better understand. the drill isn't making it catch, other than the added weight, it's the pitch and how much ice the auger is removing per revolution. as said to work around any auger catching is lift it some so it can't take as much material and does more shaving as it nears the water or break thru point.

Just a few observations.
 Its warm out with white (soft) ice.
17.4 lbs is heavy. My fuel setup weighs 11lbs.
Otherwise I'm sure it works just fine! ;D
i see white ice being cut and black ice being cut. from the sounds of his parents creepers, it is very hard ice.
your weighing your fuel with a 9 amp battery? must be a super light battery.
the fuel and octane have been weighed by stinkyfingers and they are only 6 OZ's different w/o battery.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: todalake on Dec 14, 2018, 09:53 AM
lazer augers seem to catch at the bottom of the hole. more so if you have heavy items weighing it down like clam plates and big batteries. these hand auger were meant for the the weight of the handle to beon top if this helps you better understand. the drill isn't making it catch, other than the added weight, it's the pitch and how much ice the auger is removing per revolution. as said to work around any auger catching is lift it some so it can't take as much material and does more shaving as it nears the water or break thru point.
i see white ice being cut and black ice being cut.
your weighing your fuel with a 9 amp battery? must be a super light battery.
the fuel and octane have been weighed by stinkyfingers and they are only 6 OZ''s different w/o battery.

I think he is using 5amp battery and lighter auger.   Most of difference is in the auger.   You want the Cadillac or Prius?
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: mistertwister on Dec 14, 2018, 12:03 PM
I’ll be going with the rigid and 9ah battery...I think I’ll be alright, just reading through some stuff i was afraid I’d drill a hole and end up with a sprained wrist. I was kind of hoping to avoid a clam plate so I could use the drill to set tent anchors if needed
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 14, 2018, 01:18 PM
Fortunately it appears that Pike has the upper body strength to handle that big bad 17lb auger.
I’m not complaining , beat my 10” strikemaster by about 12lbs.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 14, 2018, 01:21 PM

i see white ice being cut and black ice being cut. from the sounds of his parents creepers, it is very hard ice.
your weighing your fuel with a 9 amp battery? must be a super light battery.
the fuel and octane have been weighed by stinkyfingers and they are only 6 OZ's different w/o battery.
90% black ice, with the top white ice still being very dense. Starting temp was 0, got up to 20 with 5-10mph wind so it was solid all day.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 14, 2018, 01:23 PM
I’ll be going with the rigid and 9ah battery...I think I’ll be alright, just reading through some stuff i was afraid I’d drill a hole and end up with a sprained wrist. I was kind of hoping to avoid a clam plate so I could use the drill to set tent anchors if needed
The handle that comes with the octane gives a lot stability, I doubt you’d NEED the clam plate.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: mistertwister on Dec 14, 2018, 04:23 PM
The handle that comes with the octane gives a lot stability, I doubt you’d NEED the clam plate.

That’s what I was thinking, I appreciate it!  :tipup:
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: Charman03 on Dec 14, 2018, 05:46 PM
I can’t wait to try this, got my 7” Nero the other day, Rigid is coming for Christmas. I’m going to start out without the clam plate and see what happens.

Just be careful, a lot of people have sprained their wrist using just the drill if the auger happens to bite
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: Matt76cmich on Dec 14, 2018, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the review. I had just recieved my Milwaukee 1200 inch pound hammer drill and two 5ah batteries when I saw the deal for the Rigid. I was able to return the Milwaukee and ordered the Rigid right away. It showed up yesterday and finally got a chance to get it out of the box and register the drill and battery. The side handle is bigger than the Milwaukee and I think it will work better in the long run. Now to get the temps back in the freezing zone so I can get out there and try this thing out with my Nils 8" convertible.

(Work bench is a little messy while im working on my snowmobile clutches)
(https://i.postimg.cc/YhsPwMkJ/20181214-121109.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhsPwMkJ)
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 14, 2018, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the review. I had just recieved my Milwaukee 1200 inch pound hammer drill and two 5ah batteries when I saw the deal for the Rigid. I was able to return the Milwaukee and ordered the Rigid right away. It showed up yesterday and finally got a chance to get it out of the box and register the drill and battery. The side handle is bigger than the Milwaukee and I think it will work better in the long run. Now to get the temps back in the freezing zone so I can get out there and try this thing out with my Nils 8" convertible.

(Work bench is a little messy while im working on my snowmobile clutches)
(https://i.postimg.cc/YhsPwMkJ/20181214-121109.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/YhsPwMkJ)

Awesome. Hope you enjoy it!! Should treat you well. Let us know how you like it when you hit the ice!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: shiveringjoe on Dec 14, 2018, 09:06 PM
Just ordered mine, will be here next week! I've done 3 seasons with a Ridgid X4, first year on a ice master adapter, last 2 with a clam plate. I've been  running a 6" lazer, now I'll have the torque to spin an 8" when I'm fishing for pike or lakers.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 15, 2018, 09:22 AM
Just went and drilled a few holes with mine connected to a 7" lazer hand anger. Drill wouldn't run in speed 2 on the ice only speed 1. Got home and inside and it would turn the auger just fine on speed 2. Drilled a few holes on speed one and was impressed. Catching at the bottom of the hole wasnt too bad just need to brace the drill against my hip.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: lefty2053 on Dec 15, 2018, 09:26 AM
Just went and drilled a few holes with mine connected to a 7" lazer hand anger. Drill wouldn't run in speed 2 on the ice only speed 1. Got home and inside and it would turn the auger just fine on speed 2. Drilled a few holes on speed one and was impressed. Catching at the bottom of the hole wasnt too bad just need to brace the drill against my hip.
None of the drills will run in Speed 2.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 15, 2018, 09:32 AM
Thanks. Didnt know if it was defective since I just got it yesterday.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 15, 2018, 03:35 PM
Just went and drilled a few holes with mine connected to a 7" lazer hand anger. Drill wouldn't run in speed 2 on the ice only speed 1. Got home and inside and it would turn the auger just fine on speed 2. Drilled a few holes on speed one and was impressed. Catching at the bottom of the hole wasnt too bad just need to brace the drill against my hip.
I did the same thing. Wont work on #2. Used it again today, tried the hammer setting and really liked it. Seem to drill a little lower, but maybe have a little more power.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 15, 2018, 03:39 PM
BATTERY UPDATE!!

Used the drill again today. Did not charge the battery after last time. Drilled another 30 holes and the battery just dropped to 50%. Total of about 80 holes +/-. About 10" of ice today. Switched the settings to the hammer setting, and it seemed to drill a little slower, but have more power. So far, this drill is amazing!!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Dec 15, 2018, 04:01 PM
BATTERY UPDATE!!

Used the drill again today. Did not charge the battery after last time. Drilled another 30 holes and the battery just dropped to 50%. Total of about 80 holes +/-. About 10" of ice today. Switched the settings to the hammer setting, and it seemed to drill a little slower, but have more power. So far, this drill is amazing!!
You drilled out holes in hammer mode??? I bet your blades loved that experience!!!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Gunflint on Dec 15, 2018, 04:04 PM
BATTERY UPDATE!!

Used the drill again today. Did not charge the battery after last time. Drilled another 30 holes and the battery just dropped to 50%. Total of about 80 holes +/-. About 10" of ice today. Switched the settings to the hammer setting, and it seemed to drill a little slower, but have more power. So far, this drill is amazing!!

Nils said NEVER drill an auger in hammer mode. Hard on the system.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Dec 15, 2018, 04:14 PM
BATTERY UPDATE!!

Used the drill again today. Did not charge the battery after last time. Drilled another 30 holes and the battery just dropped to 50%. Total of about 80 holes +/-. About 10" of ice today. Switched the settings to the hammer setting, and it seemed to drill a little slower, but have more power. So far, this drill is amazing!!

It's going to get a lot slower very soon.... Better get to know Frank....
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 15, 2018, 04:21 PM
It's going to get a lot slower very soon.... Better get to know Frank....
Really!! Guess Ill have to double check the drill. Didn't seem like much difference from the drill setting. Just seemed slower. Am I missing something?? 
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 15, 2018, 04:26 PM
don't use hammer setting. keep it in drill mode.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 15, 2018, 04:46 PM
don't use hammer setting. keep it in drill mode.
Good to know gentleman!! Thanks for letting know.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: chris71383 on Dec 15, 2018, 06:27 PM
I picked up a 6" Eskimo Pistol bit this season and have to say I'm impressed, it cuts far better than the 6" Kdrill I bought last year(in fact I used the K drill one outing and went back to my laser). No hangup at the bottom of the hole at all, your drilling along and the next thing you know water is coming up the hole. It even cuts a little better (no hangup)than the 6" laser I ran on my drill from 2012-2017, but it is alot lighter(augar itself is just under 3.5lbs). My whole setup (augar with the blade cover, and drill with the battery) is 8lbs 8oz and the drill I'm running is an old(heavy) craftsman 20v lithium I picked up in 2011 to run my 6" laser the next season. Still running the original 2 batteries that came with the drill when I bought it, I always make sure to keep them in my coat when I'm out on the ice and not drilling holes and they are still going strong.
(https://i.postimg.cc/K4ZYxjy4/20181216-002235.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K4ZYxjy4)
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: SLAYERFISH on Dec 15, 2018, 07:14 PM
I think he is using 5amp battery and lighter auger.   Most of difference is in the auger.   You want the Cadillac or Prius?

Yah a 6" mora and a 5ah BATT. Just got home from carrying it in my right hand for a total of 5 miles over hill and dale.

I'd much rather carry a Prius! ;D

That pikeman setup looks the bomb!  The right tool for the job at hand-
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 17, 2018, 08:42 PM
Just for fun I timed driling a hole tonight while out fishing. 7" strikemaster lazer hand anger attached to my Rigid Octane. 11" of ice in 3.22 seconds.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 18, 2018, 08:41 AM
Sounds about right. Didn’t measure with my Nils. There was a guy setting up about 100 yds from me this weekend, and I cut 3 holes in the time he cut one with a Jiffy Model 30. 
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Dec 18, 2018, 01:16 PM
My Rigid octane drill and battery showed up Saturday but the adapter didn't until today so first chance to try.  I convinced myself I needed this only because the lifetime warranty I would use for household use and it would replace my 20 year riobyi and 6 batteries that no longer hold a charge for beans.  Thoughts on drill with battery - very heavy for household use, you would be hard pressed to use this all day above your head on a project.

Adapter - initially I looked for the ht enterprises adapter as a choice to pair with my very lightly used 8" fin bore but all on back order and some poor reviews about 3/8" bit snapping.  Ended up with the Kovac adapter.  Put it on today, tremendous amount of slop at connection, enough so that I will look to shim somehow, even if only with a few wraps of electrical tape.

Assembled - took it on the pond and drilled 5 holes to try through 6-7"of good hard ice.  Lowest speed setting, on drill, highest torque.  Jumps around pretty good until you get it started as this style of bit has no center point and I believe what you guys all call shaver blades, not rippers.  Once started, it eats ice but binds pretty severely as you get ready to break through.  You definitely want it propped against your leg and have the extension handle attached in my opinion.  It even cracked the plastic part of the wingnut that goes through kovac adapter and bit.  I have a 14 year old son and feel more comfortable with him using the 10" jiffy with ripper blade than this accordingly.  Other style bits like the nils may not experience as much of a grab, not sure.

Overall weight - about 15 pounds, certainly lighter than a 10" jiffy but not a "lightweight" option if that makes sense.

Final - Initially, I can only give it a "C", it might grow on me or I might send it back.  Going to give it a fair test this weekend.  I'll update.

That's just my honest, out of the gate assessment.  Good luck in your decisions on this product and application.  If you are only looking at this product as dedicated to ice fishing paired with the right bit, you might enjoy.  Piker's result on battery life thus far seems outstanding also. :tipup:
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Dec 18, 2018, 01:24 PM
You might want to get a smaller battery for around the house. I have the older Drill with 4 ah batteries and it is good for both.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Dec 18, 2018, 01:29 PM
You might want to get a smaller battery for around the house. I have the older Drill with 4 ah batteries and it is good for both.

Or go to the gym. ;D

Just viewed the purchase as a "do everything" option without additional expense, might have been my mistake.  I'll give it a fair shake this weekend.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: stinkyfingers on Dec 18, 2018, 01:50 PM
I've been guilty of preaching that you need a Clam plate to handle either the Ridgid 1300 in/lbs or the Milwaukee Fuel. I've had so much wobble this year with the Clam plate

spinning a 7" Nero that I just went back to basics for an outing this morning. Rock hard 12" of Elevenmile ice. Had the Ridgid attached to the 7" Nero through a Bass Pro adaptor

that's basically a knockoff of a Kovac adaptor. It was sloppy going together but when I screwed the Allen bolt down, it snugged up tight. On the ice it chewed the holes at about

3"/second. The Ridgid extension arm was plenty stout enough to brace against my leg so no sprained wrists. The Clam plate is superfluous and in fact I believe the combination of

the Ridgid drill and Clam plate was the sole source of all that wobble. I'm sticking with this setup and saving my Fuel for projects around the shop. Anybody need a Clam plate?
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 18, 2018, 02:08 PM
My Rigid octane drill and battery showed up Saturday but the adapter didn't until today so first chance to try.  I convinced myself I needed this only because the lifetime warranty I would use for household use and it would replace my 20 year riobyi and 6 batteries that no longer hold a charge for beans.  Thoughts on drill with battery - very heavy for household use, you would be hard pressed to use this all day above your head on a project.

Adapter - initially I looked for the ht enterprises adapter as a choice to pair with my very lightly used 8" fin bore but all on back order and some poor reviews about 3/8" bit snapping.  Ended up with the Kovac adapter.  Put it on today, tremendous amount of slop at connection, enough so that I will look to shim somehow, even if only with a few wraps of electrical tape.

Assembled - took it on the pond and drilled 5 holes to try through 6-7"of good hard ice.  Lowest speed setting, on drill, highest torque.  Jumps around pretty good until you get it started as this style of bit has no center point and I believe what you guys all call shaver blades, not rippers.  Once started, it eats ice but binds pretty severely as you get ready to break through.  You definitely want it propped against your leg and have the extension handle attached in my opinion.  It even cracked the plastic part of the wingnut that goes through kovac adapter and bit.  I have a 14 year old son and feel more comfortable with him using the 10" jiffy with ripper blade than this accordingly.  Other style bits like the nils may not experience as much of a grab, not sure.

Overall weight - about 15 pounds, certainly lighter than a 10" jiffy but not a "lightweight" option if that makes sense.

Final - Initially, I can only give it a "C", it might grow on me or I might send it back.  Going to give it a fair test this weekend.  I'll update.

That's just my honest, out of the gate assessment.  Good luck in your decisions on this product and application.  If you are only looking at this product as dedicated to ice fishing paired with the right bit, you might enjoy.  Piker's result on battery life thus far seems outstanding also. :tipup:
Great review of your set up. I could definitely see where shaver blades could be problematic. I see Octane drill excelling with the Nils and K-drill. I had zero grab at the bottom of the hole using my 8” Nils. Thanks for sharing your findings.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Dec 18, 2018, 02:18 PM
Great review of your set up. I could definitely see where shaver blades could be problematic. I see Octane drill excelling with the Nils and K-drill. I had zero grab at the bottom of the hole using my 8” Nils. Thanks for sharing your findings.

I saw that in your video.  The nils bit is so much longer than the fin bore bit I think its a better application for that reason also.   
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 18, 2018, 05:15 PM
gamefisher, you can use smaller/lighter batteries like your used to if that is what you would like for over head work. i have 2 amp and 4 amp batteries that work on it and any other ridgid power tool. just be sure to buy them in a kit to receive the lsa.

if you have wobble in your set up they will walk and cut poorly. the wobble will be between the auger and adapter. some can remove it by tightening the screw. depending on the adapter you may not be able to remove the wobble like stinkyfingers had with his initial set up.
the blades on certain brands seem to do so more than others. the mora style that curve outwards seem to like to walk where as the lazer blades that curve inwards don't seem to have that problem, but do have the break thru catching issues because of the cut rate. the nero uses the outward curve to them so i am not surprised to hear about them walking. if it wobbles all of the way thru the cut then one blade is working harder than the other because one blade is touching before the other one can.

the top of the line fuel drill is 4 ounces less than this drill with out battery of any kind. a large share of the weight you have is from the battery size which is fine for the application on ice. could you imagine running it with a 12 amp battery over head.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: lowaccord66 on Dec 18, 2018, 08:26 PM
Thanks!

Well done.  I have 2 8" nils flights sitting collecting dust and one more connected to the Tanaka still.  Guess I know what to do next!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 19, 2018, 06:33 AM
Well done.  I have 2 8" nils flights sitting collecting dust and one more connected to the Tanaka still.  Guess I know what to do next!
LOL. This drill parred with a NILS is a BEAST. Let us know how you like it.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW.
Post by: 3300 on Dec 22, 2018, 11:33 AM
Hey stinky I run a new ridged-kovac-clam extension-Nero auger and there is little to no wobble. That is only true on my first hole and then I feel a little bit of looseness. It is the wing nut connecting my clam extension to the kovac. It loosens by just the slightest bit from bung hole tight and creates a little wobble. I intend to replace the wing nut with an Allen bolt that should have my system rock solid.

i don't see that anyone answered your question about the kovac icemaster 2 looseness. mine has the same looseness also. it is designed too small so there is for sure a lot of slop where it connects to either an extension or auger. it is also too short. they really need to make it bigger and longer, but it maybe on purpose for other augers so they should offer a shim for it. if you take the wing nut off and check clearance of it you will find the issues.

the good thing is the slop doesn't make it wobble, it's just loose on the adapter is all. i had the wobble issue trying to get away from the looseness issue of the icemaster while trying the clam plate. it has way too much wobble. so mine is being returned or maybe sell it in the for sale board because of the trigger mod is done so someone could use it as is instead of me ripping it apart to return it and i am going back to the icemaster. i do like the bungee cord system is uses anyway to hold shopping bags on my drill.
they need to make the kovac icemaster 3.

 i didn't like having to modify the trigger handle of the plate or trying to figure out how i wanted to protect my drill and battery with out adding a plastic box over it or the amount of weight and the foot print size and especially the wobble.
 the weight of it would make certain augers such as lazer, which i use, bind more on break thru with all of the additional weight and make it harder on your back trying to hold it up during that time for each hole you cut and i cut a lot of holes on some days.

UPDATE:
plate is for sale on the for sale board to give a local a chance to pick it up with the trigger mod done. it will be up for a short time and then back to dicks sports with free return shipping.
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=363435.0
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Dec 22, 2018, 03:20 PM
Searching for balance and precision from any ice auger rig is a lost cause starting with any bit made today. They are all made for the lower RPM range. Non are balanced, I think many of the wobbles are starting to show up as RPMs are increasing. If you were to try to spin any ice auger bit at 25,000 RPMs things might self destruct. Some guy's setups are also getting lucky in that, each component happened to be manufactured correct with everything landing straight, centered and balanced unfortunately that's almost a fluke..

It's only going to work and operate so perfect.

All we need is a hole in the ice, everything else is frosting..

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Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: FishGut on Dec 22, 2018, 08:00 PM
Anecdotes aside, give me the math. It'd be a hoot if one of the hundreds of engineers out there would map the optimal torque/rpm ranges for each hand auger. That info alone might change the way folks look at what equipment to buy. 

Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Dec 23, 2018, 05:37 AM
Anecdotes aside, give me the math. It'd be a hoot if one of the hundreds of engineers out there would map the optimal torque/rpm ranges for each hand auger. That info alone might change the way folks look at what equipment to buy.

Lol, I can tell you the optimal speeds and feeds for "ice' is whatever your drill and arm can handle  ;D

I've seen some funny videos of people spinning on top of their augers once they jam in the ice.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 23, 2018, 10:21 AM
UPDATE! Drilled another 30 holes through 12” of ice. Totaling +/- 100-110 holes without charging. Battery still on 1/2 charge. Still no complaints!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Matt76cmich on Dec 23, 2018, 11:48 AM
UPDATE! Drilled another 30 holes through 12” of ice. Totaling +/- 100-110 holes without charging. Battery still on 1/2 charge. Still no complaints!

That's awesome! Going to try and get out here soon and give things a go. Ice is finally coming back after the warm up we had.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Dec 23, 2018, 04:18 PM
That's awesome! Going to try and get out here soon and give things a go. Ice is finally coming back after the warm up we had.

Wow!!! how many holes have you drilled though 12" of ice on half a battery total now???
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 23, 2018, 04:29 PM
Wow!!! how many holes have you drilled though 12" of ice on half a battery total now???
First day: +\- 50 holes in 7-8” of ice.
Second day: +\- 30 holes through 10” of ice.
Third day/today: +\-30 holes in 12” of ice.
Still at 50%
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Sandcountrylivin on Dec 23, 2018, 04:31 PM
If you have a smart phone you can download the ridged battery app and find out the exact percentage of your battery pike fisherman!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Dec 23, 2018, 04:36 PM
First day: +\- 50 holes in 7-8” of ice.
Second day: +\- 30 holes through 10” of ice.
Third day/today: +\-30 holes in 12” of ice.
Still at 50%
Well done!!! I am curious when you will need to change/recharge your first battery..... the way its going could be some time in February... tight lines!!!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 24, 2018, 09:53 AM
Well done!!! I am curious when you will need to change/recharge your first battery..... the way its going could be some time in February... tight lines!!!
I’m running it till it dies. Hoping to get another 2 outing with it.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 24, 2018, 09:53 AM
If you have a smart phone you can download the ridged battery app and find out the exact percentage of your battery pike fisherman!
Interesting. I’ll have to figure that out
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: SLAYERFISH on Dec 24, 2018, 10:26 AM
I'll post what I've done with my fuel setup as a comparison.

1200 fuel 5AH batt /clamplate/Mora.  I have both 6" and 8" flytes.

Been using the 8" a couple times. First time thru 10" of clear hard ice at -11F got 30 holes.

Next time was 14" of clear hard ice at 20F got like 25 holes.

Drilled easily 100 holes with the 6" thru 5" of soft ice with only 1 bar used on the batt. ;D
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Dec 24, 2018, 11:37 AM
I'll post what I've done with my fuel setup as a comparison.

1200 fuel 5AH batt /clamplate/Mora.  I have both 6" and 8" flytes.

Been using the 8" a couple times. First time thru 10" of clear hard ice at -11F got 30 holes.

Next time was 14" of clear hard ice at 20F got like 25 holes.

Drilled easily 100 holes with the 6" thru 5" of soft ice with only 1 bar used on the batt. ;D

And I drilled 267 8" holes through 29" if hard clear ice when it was -20 with a wind chill of -49 with my 20v craftsman and 2 ah battery.  See what I did there?  All joking aside, it looks like the Ridgid is just as good as the fuels but for way, way cheaper. At least for now.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Matt76cmich on Dec 24, 2018, 11:46 AM
Interesting. I’ll have to figure that out

I never would've thought I would be checking on a cordless drill battery on my phone by bluetooth,  but here I am doing it right now lol.  Let's you know how long it will take to charge it, let's you lock it if its stolen, and has a gps in it. I just turned 37 and the technology these days still amaze these days lol



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Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Matt76cmich on Dec 24, 2018, 11:47 AM
Another screen shot


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Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Miles59 on Dec 24, 2018, 01:14 PM
I don’t know if this is big news, but here is a link for special purchase price at Home Depot. You buy the 9.0 Ah battery and your choice of bare tool.  You can get the Octane drill and 9 Ah batterytogether, and it comes out to $181 with tax and shipping. I was at the store and there are no deals li’e this one.

https://slickdeals.net/f/12004847-ridgid-9-0ah-hyper-octane-starter-kit-with-free-bare-tool-of-choice
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Dec 24, 2018, 01:29 PM
I don’t know if this is big news, but here is a link for special purchase price at Home Depot. You buy the 9.0 Ah battery and your choice of bare tool.  You can get the Octane drill and 9 Ah batterytogether, and it comes out to $181 with tax and shipping. I was at the store and there are no deals li’e this one.

https://slickdeals.net/f/12004847-ridgid-9-0ah-hyper-octane-starter-kit-with-free-bare-tool-of-choice

Someone already posted this, but it's good to keep reminding people.  Wicked good deal! 
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 24, 2018, 01:36 PM
Anyone else have where the handle connects to the drill strip off? Those little metal tabs are gone off my drill after a few uses where the auger caught and twisted the handle causing them to strip off.  Pretty poor design if you ask me, needs more to grab onto.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Dec 24, 2018, 01:40 PM
Anyone else have where the handle connects to the drill strip off? Those little metal tabs are gone off my drill after a few uses where the auger caught and twisted the handle causing them to strip off.  Pretty poor design if you ask me, needs more to grab onto.
oh man.i havent got to use mine yet but thats the exact reason I bought the clam plate.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: TNT5859 on Dec 24, 2018, 01:46 PM
Great stuff!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 24, 2018, 01:47 PM
any pictures?

make sure to align them correctly as you tighten it down.
been using this handle system for a long time.

hd has a 90 day hassle free return policy. if you didn't attach it correctly and striped it ridgid will repair it, or exchange it at hd or get your money back is fastest resolve.

Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Dec 24, 2018, 02:28 PM
Anyone else have where the handle connects to the drill strip off? Those little metal tabs are gone off my drill after a few uses where the auger caught and twisted the handle causing them to strip off.  Pretty poor design if you ask me, needs more to grab onto.


What brand of drill?

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Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: TNT5859 on Dec 24, 2018, 02:34 PM
I was so excited to try out the Rigid Octane, Clam drill plate on a 7 inch Mora auger. Now after reading other post I am very concerned. The drill is a beast that is for sure. I just hope with this wobble it has now won't translate when it is cutting holes.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Dec 24, 2018, 03:04 PM
I was so excited to try out the Rigid Octane, Clam drill plate on a 7 inch Mora auger. Now after reading other post I am very concerned. The drill is a beast that is for sure. I just hope with this wobble it has now won't translate when it is cutting holes.
same here only 8" mora.dont fret over anything yet.wait till you try it out cutting ice..the plate is not made to have tight tolerances.sounds like we either deal with some wobble or break the handle off the drill.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Dec 24, 2018, 03:09 PM
same here only 8" mora.dont fret over anything yet.wait till you try it out cutting ice..the plate is not made to have tight tolerances.sounds like we either deal with some wobble or break the handle off the drill.
I think everyone should wait and see. I personally think I got a bad Clam Plate. This is the first I have heard of the tabs breaking off the Drills. Hopefully it is an isolated thing.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Dec 24, 2018, 03:10 PM
Anyone else have where the handle connects to the drill strip off? Those little metal tabs are gone off my drill after a few uses where the auger caught and twisted the handle causing them to strip off.  Pretty poor design if you ask me, needs more to grab onto.
Could you post what type Auger you was using? Might help others by slowing down at break through.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: TNT5859 on Dec 24, 2018, 03:17 PM
same here only 8" mora.dont fret over anything yet.wait till you try it out cutting ice..the plate is not made to have tight tolerances.sounds like we either deal with some wobble or break the handle off the drill.

I agree, there is no way it can possibly be balanced. All I do know is when I run it while waiting for ice I can see the wobble. I am just hoping if you start slown in the ice, it will correct itself.

I have read about others post saying that there is wobble in the air and it ran fine in the ice. I sure hope this is the case!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: SLAYERFISH on Dec 24, 2018, 03:41 PM
And I drilled 267 8" holes through 29" if hard clear ice when it was -20 with a wind chill of -49 with my 20v craftsman and 2 ah battery.  See what I did there?  All joking aside, it looks like the Ridgid is just as good as the fuels but for way, way cheaper. At least for now.

Only posting a comparison. It would seem the rigid/nils 9ah is a ice cutting machine. The rigid is $50 cheaper. The nils is way more expensive than a mora. Id say both are about even. ;)
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Dec 24, 2018, 04:02 PM
I took my extension off and went outside and ran mine with the cover on top of a plastic 5 gallon bucket lid.it does wobble but with a little pressure put on the bit it transfers into the plate that kind of rocks around.so once a hole is started in ice I believe the bit will be true cutting but you will notice it in the plate handles.acted the same with or without extension.fwiw.i know its not a good test but im getting antsy to get this thing cutting some ice.and if it doesn’t im out of the drill gang.lol
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 24, 2018, 04:43 PM
Ill take some pics when I get home. Its the Ridgid Octane drill turning a 7" strikemaster laser auger. I had them aligned when I put the handle on, just doesn't seem like there is enough material there to grab onto. Ill return it to home depot and get a new one. Love the set up for hole hopping and getting a ton of holes per charge.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 24, 2018, 08:26 PM
thanks dbuchmann. try to lift it during break thru to avoid the rough cut. this makes it shave more and cut less so it gets thru smoothly.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Dec 24, 2018, 09:42 PM
I would like to see the pictures of what broke....
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Dec 25, 2018, 05:33 AM
I still have only drilled 10 holes through 5-6" of ice with my rigid / fin bore combo but purposely left it on ice all day yesterday in 20-25 degree weather to see how battery would do.  If I'm going to use this thing , it's going to have to perform without being babysat like some I read.  It did go from 4 bars to 3 but does chew ice fast once you get it started for sure.   Definitely binds as you get ready to break though.  In my opinion, the best way to set it up is with the drill in your strong hand and auxiliary handle in other.  I can only see the auxiliary  hand being a problem stripping off if you don't really tighten it down.  As an aside, I bought the $20 phone charger  adapter and works very well,  chargest fast, good add on for those of us with camps that have no power.  I'm moving my initial review from a "C" to a "C+" accordingly,  it will be interesting to see how /if this performs when we get 2' of ice.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 25, 2018, 09:18 AM
Anyone else have where the handle connects to the drill strip off? Those little metal tabs are gone off my drill after a few uses where the auger caught and twisted the handle causing them to strip off.  Pretty poor design if you ask me, needs more to grab onto.
I’m 100 holes in and no problem with mine!
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Dec 26, 2018, 06:52 AM
I would like to see the pictures of what broke....
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: missoulafish on Dec 26, 2018, 07:22 AM
I was wondering what functionality the Bluetooth capability offered, thanks for sharing the screen shots.
I think the sale goes to 2-4-19
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Dec 28, 2018, 01:43 AM
Anyone else have where the handle connects to the drill strip off? Those little metal tabs are gone off my drill after a few uses where the auger caught and twisted the handle causing them to strip off.  Pretty poor design if you ask me, needs more to grab onto.
Ill take some pics when I get home. Its the Ridgid Octane drill turning a 7" strikemaster laser auger. I had them aligned when I put the handle on, just doesn't seem like there is enough material there to grab onto. Ill return it to home depot and get a new one. Love the set up for hole hopping and getting a ton of holes per charge.

Update please? What exactly broke? Did you get it replaced?

I would like to see the pictures of what broke....

^^^This.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 28, 2018, 02:41 PM
Update please? What exactly broke? Did you get it replaced?

^^^This.
I’d be interested to see as well
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 28, 2018, 02:57 PM
they kept the same exact design as their other aux handle contact points. here is my old brushed genx5 with 780 inch pounds used for years on ice, concrete basket saws and metal. there is some wear on it because if you don't keep it tight it can walk some while under load or if you don't align it correctly and have it sitting on the kicker it can't sit squarely either. if it wears down to far it will be replaced for free. no worries.

 back drill is the octane
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foot print size between the two. octane is shorter body length and wider.
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Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 28, 2018, 09:20 PM
Sorry guys just forgot to get on here the last few days. Not the greatest pictures but you can see where it stripped off. Also I can't tighten the handle down further onto a different position on the drill. Wont tighten up for me. Wondering if maybe I just got a bad handle
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Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 28, 2018, 10:05 PM
sure looks cracked. ridgid will repair it free. wondering why the handle is acting up and you have a cracked ear at the same time.
can you take the handle apart. it should be in 5 parts.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: spoofhoundicefisher on Dec 28, 2018, 10:08 PM
I took my extension off and went outside and ran mine with the cover on top of a plastic 5 gallon bucket lid.it does wobble but with a little pressure put on the bit it transfers into the plate that kind of rocks around.so once a hole is started in ice I believe the bit will be true cutting but you will notice it in the plate handles.acted the same with or without extension.fwiw.i know its not a good test but im getting antsy to get this thing cutting some ice.and if it doesn’t im out of the drill gang.lol

i filled up a 5 gallon bucket with water and froze it a few years ago just to see how it would act before the ice season started. 
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Dec 29, 2018, 01:12 AM
Sorry guys just forgot to get on here the last few days. Not the greatest pictures but you can see where it stripped off. Also I can't tighten the handle down further onto a different position on the drill. Wont tighten up for me. Wondering if maybe I just got a bad handle
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Looks like the handle wasn't seated on the ear all the way.  Weird that your handle seems messed up too.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Dec 29, 2018, 05:33 AM
The more I use mine, the more I enjoy and am impressed.   Probably up to 50 holes now, still at 2 bars.  Have been leaving it sitting out in cold purposely and we've had some cold days.  As far as the auxiliary handle. I have just gotten nto the habit of making sure its "snub" everytime I grab it, no problems. It's been great for walking trips, we'll see what it does when ice gets thick.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Dec 29, 2018, 07:56 AM
Sorry guys just forgot to get on here the last few days. Not the greatest pictures but you can see where it stripped off. Also I can't tighten the handle down further onto a different position on the drill. Wont tighten up for me. Wondering if maybe I just got a bad handle
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Well, the next question is do you live within driving distance from a LSA dealer? If not your going to have to send it all in to be repaired. A friend of mine paid to ship it and waited 5 weeks for it to return.... Just a heads up.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 29, 2018, 09:59 AM
you can put the aux. handle on the next two ears and use it like a plate. make sure you figure out whats wrong with the aux handle first so it doesn't keep breaking the ears. i would be on the phone to get a new aux handle sent to you asap.

another option is try to find a straight out put shaft on a new clam plate. take the drill with you to the store and try the shaft in your drill before you go home. maybe you can find a straight one that way. it should not waiver or wobble or have any run out. just put the saft into your drill. no need to put it in the plate for testing them. i still may do this because mine is bent.

have the ear replaced after season.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: dbuchmann on Dec 29, 2018, 12:54 PM
I'm nowhere near a lsa or even a home depot. Talked to home depot and they are going to send me a whole new drill when they come in stock and ill ship mine back. I took the handle apart and it seems like it needs more threads on the bolt to be able to tighten it down more. Hopefully the new one solves my problems because I love the set up
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Dec 29, 2018, 06:17 PM
oh man.i havent got to use mine yet but thats the exact reason I bought the clam plate.
Met dr speckler today! Seen it in action. That baby rips! Did you need extra to attach to auger? Or clam plate only.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 29, 2018, 06:31 PM
I'm nowhere near a lsa or even a home depot. Talked to home depot and they are going to send me a whole new drill when they come in stock and ill ship mine back. I took the handle apart and it seems like it needs more threads on the bolt to be able to tighten it down more. Hopefully the new one solves my problems because I love the set up
good call. 90 day hassle free returns. glad to see them work with you long distance.
what's a zip code near you?
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 29, 2018, 06:44 PM
The more I use mine, the more I enjoy and am impressed.   Probably up to 50 holes now, still at 2 bars.  Have been leaving it sitting out in cold purposely and we've had some cold days.  As far as the auxiliary handle. I have just gotten nto the habit of making sure its "snub" everytime I grab it, no problems. It's been great for walking trips, we'll see what it does when ice gets thick.
Are we up to a B rating yet??
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Sportdog7 on Dec 29, 2018, 07:32 PM
I have the same drill or I will have the same drill its in route and should be here by Jan. 2, it will be used with my 8"Mora Strikemaster and a 16" extension I'll use if the ice gets thick, I had originally bought the smaller less powerful Ridgid (750 in lbs) but after seeing this review on You Tube I brought it back then took his advice and ordered the 9Ah Hyper Octane battery & charger for 169.00 and was able to get the Ridgid R8611506B...  FREE!!  I also bought it because of the lifetime warranty on the drill & battery was a huge reason to buy the more powerful set up. Funny thing is after all is said and done I actually spent 5.28 less getting the better unit.   ;D
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Dec 29, 2018, 08:04 PM
Met dr speckler today! Seen it in action. That baby rips! Did you need extra to attach to auger? Or clam plate only.
you can run just the clam plate and mora but its  short.i had  the extension on mine so I wasn't bent over drilling but its not needed.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: cavecat on Dec 29, 2018, 09:54 PM
Is this unit over kill for a 6" Nils hand auger?
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Dec 30, 2018, 06:46 AM
Are we up to a B rating yet??

Yes, I think so.  Battery life and longevity is what has impressed  me most.  So far, i have found myself taking alot more old school simple trips with this unit, packbasket, blue tarp, bait, and the ridgid, not even a jet sled, walk out and fish.  Reminds me of being a kid again, except we had to use a dull chisel.😁 We'll see what it does through 18" before the rank goes any higher.

Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Dec 30, 2018, 10:01 AM
I was just thinking. If it's snowing blowing sleet mist rain, do you bring drill in or cover it? That to me would be a downfall, with gas auger I can just leave it out. Not going because of weather is not a option lol
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: slipperybob on Dec 30, 2018, 10:04 AM
I was just thinking. If it's snowing blowing sleet mist rain, do you bring drill in or cover it? That to me would be a downfall, with gas auger I can just leave it out

I cover things up.  Iced up zippers...well.  Iced up reel spools...pain.  Buddy heater...don't even get me started.  Gas auger...last thing I need is ice going into the intake or snow plugging up the exhaust.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 30, 2018, 10:34 AM
i use thick shopping bags from menards and use 2 to 3 inside each other. i use one handle and make a bunch of twists in it and slip it over the chuck end of the drill and then put the rest of the drill and battery inside the bag and then twist the remaining handle a bunch of times and slip that over the chuck. twisting the bags handles makes the loop small. the only thing left out of it is the chuck and aux handle they get sprayed with gibbs. amazon has it. once dry the metal is water proof. then i attach this to the drill adapter. the drills controls are easy to feel and use in them.

i use the kovak icemaster 2 adapter and it all works great. it woulldn't work so well on a plate. the bungee strap also holds the bag onto the heel of the drill so if you didn't twist the bag handles tight enough the bungee will keep it on and tight.
on the plate you'd have to remove the c bolt in order to remove the bag to be able to swap/charge batteries. with the icemaster it is easier (no added bulk to foot print) to keep in the flip over or bucket during rain events if i wanted to protect it even more. with this system only the drill is what you have after disconnecting the adapter. the adapter stays on the auger and after loosening the chuck, you just slip the bungee off the drill heel. if you want to change battery leave the bungee on it. just remove the last bag handle from chuck and slip the back part way back.

i use my auger as an ice anchor in high wind days by drilling behind where i want to fish and make an angled hole and leave the auger in it and throw the rope over it and onto the ice.
most days i leave it lying across my flip over and some days i leave it standing in a partial hole with my parka hanging on it or alone. i can leave it in the elements with this bag system i use.

octane with 9amp.snug as a bug.
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Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Deal Ninja on Dec 30, 2018, 01:57 PM
Is this unit over kill for a 6" Nils hand auger?

I would say yes, but it’s also the best value bar none for a drill auger powerhead.  If I wasn’t already set up with Milwaukee tools and batteries, I’d be all over this deal.

DN
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 30, 2018, 05:28 PM
Yes, I think so.  Battery life and longevity is what has impressed  me most.  So far, i have found myself taking alot more old school simple trips with this unit, packbasket, blue tarp, bait, and the ridgid, not even a jet sled, walk out and fish.  Reminds me of being a kid again, except we had to use a dull chisel.😁 We'll see what it does through 18" before the rank goes any higher.
Glad to see your liking it so far.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 30, 2018, 05:32 PM
I was just thinking. If it's snowing blowing sleet mist rain, do you bring drill in or cover it? That to me would be a downfall, with gas auger I can just leave it out. Not going because of weather is not a option lol
I carry a thick plastic bag with me just in case
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Dec 30, 2018, 05:34 PM
Battery Update: Drilled another 20 holes yesterday. Battery dropped to 1/4. Still original charge.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Dec 30, 2018, 08:05 PM
ALRIGHT ...

Went and picked up a clam plate today.  Ridgid drill hasnt arrived yet so I set it up with a 20v craftsman to see how it spun.  My 6" Ion fits pretty well on the shaft without any kind of adapter. 

Auger spins fairly true, with no noticeable wobble at all.  I DO however feel the "slop" when I wiggle the plates handles up and down.  This seems to be the bearings, and has no affect on the actual turning of the auger.  The metal piece that goes through the bearing has a pretty nice slip fit on mine.  Diameter wise I would bet the OD/ID variations are well within tolerances. I'm tempted to pull the bearing housing apart to see exactly where the play is coming from, but like I said, the handle wobble has no affect on the auger spinning.  That being said, sounds like the issue everyone is having has to do with their extensions. Even my Ion extension causes a little wobble. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: fullfan on Dec 31, 2018, 03:14 PM
Well I bit, picked up the drill for 79.00 and the battery is being shipped . Jut ordered the 8" drill from Acme for 229.00. All I need now is some ice.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Dec 31, 2018, 05:58 PM
it's too good of a deal for anyone to pass up on, even if they don't need it. you can pick other free tool choices. if you have a smart phone grab their app and you'll have bluetooth options for the battery that are nice.
don't forget to register your new tools right away and they have a 90 hassle free return policy if any thing happens to it or you don't like it. check your aux handle thru out the day that it is where it needs to be and tight.
229 for the auger sounds like the eskimo pistol or k-drill.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Dec 31, 2018, 09:34 PM
it's too good of a deal for anyone to pass up on, even if they don't need it. you can pick other free tool choices. if you have a smart phone grab their app and you'll have bluetooth options for the battery that are nice.
don't forget to register your new tools right away and they have a 90 hassle free return policy if any thing happens to it or you don't like it. check your aux handle thru out the day that it is where it needs to be and tight.
229 for the auger sounds like the eskimo pistol or k-drill.

So true.  I'm seriously thinking about getting another, and either keeping just the battery, or getting the 1/2 impact wrench for working on the car.  Have timing belts to do soon...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Sharp Nils on Dec 31, 2018, 10:54 PM
 3300, I got in on that deal a while ago.  Already had the Milwaukee 2704 but for $169 for 9amp hr battery, charger, and Ridgid Octane it was too good to pass up.  Been doing all my on ice Nils testing this winter with the Ridgid chucked up to a Kovac adapter.  I don't use the handle and feel if you the drill properly you don't want it.  Hold with your right hand with finger on trigger while handle braced against you forearm. Left palm against the motor.  The torque is easily held back with that technique.  I'd like to add for safety sake, just like your firearm, get used to selecting the off switch(safety) after drilling a hole. You don't want that blade spinning when you don't want it spinning.
Definitely the best Drill Deal this year.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 01, 2019, 01:43 AM
glad to hear you were able to get one and like using it frank. it is a great deal for sure.
the deal is on thru 02.04.19. home depot sold out online and only some stores have stock last i heard until they get more in stock. the pricing has shifted some since release date. the battery/charger was 199$ and the drill was 139$. now the drill is 149$ and the battery/charger is 169$. interesting to see the fluctuation for what ever the reason is. keep an eye on it for price matching for 90 days. they will credit you if they keep lowering the system and you call it in.

i only use lazer's (friend owns a shop and sells wholesale to me and that's all he carries) and they will throw the handle towards you if your right handed, so i hold it close to my person so i can keep it from spinning too far around. i did try it a few times with out the aux. handle and i wasn't comfortable with out it, just a habit probably cutting on job sites and such.

i haven't had ice so all i get to do is read about others who have ice for now. i do like the improved chuck with the new ratcheting/positive locking system it uses over all of their older versions. i'm thinking it will hold on much better to the kovac adapter.

the octane/nils is very impressive to see on the youtube the op posted especially with no spikes on his boots. very smooth cutting all of the way thru.

great advice on the lock position so there are no accidents. i automatically install the cap after cutting or leave it standing in ice. i have things get cut with out knowing they got until much later realizing only one thing can cut like that. there was a story recently here about an angler having his drill turn on and destroying his sonar and other items in his sled, so it does happen.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Matt76cmich on Jan 01, 2019, 09:46 AM
Finally got out on the ice this past weekend.  Punched about 60 holes give or take with the Rigid Octane Nils 8" convertible combo and wish I had tried this a long time ago. Kinda the same feeling as the first time I used my deer cart vs just dragging lol.   Can't wait to get back on the ice,  just hope mother nature quits messing with us here in mid michigan.  Rained hard from about 11am to 9:30pm.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Martian on Jan 01, 2019, 10:15 AM
 good job on the vid. I use an eskimo gas 8 in. and am very happy with it, but have long thought about early and late ice going electric, I have a 5 in. lazer that I think would rock with that drill. good job on your vid
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: river rat78 on Jan 01, 2019, 10:27 AM
  I'd like to add for safety sake, just like your firearm, get used to selecting the off switch(safety) after drilling a hole. You don't want that blade spinning when you don't want it spinning.
Definitely the best Drill Deal this year.
This is great advice. Years ago I cut myself pretty good on my knee cause the auger spun when I didn’t want it to. I wasn’t being careless it was an unfortunate accident. I think I was trying to remove the auger from the chuck on the drill. My finger accidentally hit the trigger. I ended up with about an inch long cut that was probably 1/16-1/8” deep. Needed a stitch to close it up.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Jan 01, 2019, 11:03 AM
ordered one this morning thanks guys!!!!!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 01, 2019, 02:06 PM
Finally got out on the ice this past weekend.  Punched about 60 holes give or take with the Rigid Octane Nils 8" convertible combo and wish I had tried this a long time ago. Kinda the same feeling as the first time I used my deer cart vs just dragging lol.   Can't wait to get back on the ice,  just hope mother nature quits messing with us here in mid michigan.  Rained hard from about 11am to 9:30pm.
Same here. I put off getting a drill unit for way too long. Nothing bu good things to say about mine.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 01, 2019, 02:06 PM
good job on the vid. I use an eskimo gas 8 in. and am very happy with it, but have long thought about early and late ice going electric, I have a 5 in. lazer that I think would rock with that drill. good job on your vid
Thanks
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 01, 2019, 02:11 PM
  I'd like to add for safety sake, just like your firearm, get used to selecting the off switch(safety) after drilling a hole. You don't want that blade spinning when you don't want it spinning.
Definitely the best Drill Deal this year.
Where if this off switch you speak of? It at home right now. Are you talking about the trigger lock between forward/reverse?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Icemole on Jan 01, 2019, 04:15 PM
 I've sort of skipped around this thread. I have read a few posts about using just the drill(no clam adapter) and have read about the auger "grabbing" on punch through. My question is does this Rigid drill have an adjustable clutch(guessing yes) and wouldn't that "slip" preventing the grab?.... Sorry if asked before and I missed it.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 01, 2019, 04:42 PM
I've sort of skipped around this thread. I have read a few posts about using just the drill(no clam adapter) and have read about the auger "grabbing" on punch through. My question is does this Rigid drill have an adjustable clutch(guessing yes) and wouldn't that "slip" preventing the grab?.... Sorry if asked before and I missed it.
have to run in drill mode.no clutch in that mode.clutch works in screw/hammer drill mode.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Big Sky on Jan 01, 2019, 05:57 PM
Count me in as another new owner.

Just bought today in a store in Menomonee Falls, Wi.  HD Online said there were 3 in stock in case anyone near there is looking to buy.  I had to order the battery and have it ship to my house.

I did a lot of reading on this, but not 100% sure if you guys are using the stock chuck or adding an extension. Suppose it depends on the auger, but I will be using my lazer 6” to start. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Icemole on Jan 01, 2019, 06:09 PM
 Kind of weird the clutch doesn't work in "drill" mode.... I've had bits grab in wood and steel that gave my wrist a good twist..... But I'll be ordering anyway ... the old Milwaulkee is about shot(battery wise any way)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 01, 2019, 06:20 PM
Kind of weird the clutch doesn't work in "drill" mode.... I've had bits grab in wood and steel that gave my wrist a good twist..... But I'll be ordering anyway ... the old Milwaulkee is about shot(battery wise any way)

I've never run across a drill where the clutch was functional in drilling mode.  That's kind of the point, drill mode locks the clutch out.  Having said that, I would think that this drill would work just fine in screw mode with the clutch turned up towards the top end, as it has more than enough torque.

I'm hoping to finally try mine on the ice tomorrow! ;D
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 01, 2019, 06:45 PM
would be nice for someone to try screw mode on highest setting and see what happens. it won't hurt anything to try. would be nice to see them add ice mode to drills some day.

Count me in as another new owner.

Just bought today in a store in Menomonee Falls, Wi.  HD Online said there were 3 in stock in case anyone near there is looking to buy.  I had to order the battery and have it ship to my house.

I did a lot of reading on this, but not 100% sure if you guys are using the stock chuck or adding an extension. Suppose it depends on the auger, but I will be using my lazer 6” to start.
i use the kovac icemaster 2 adapter to use the auger and drill. i always use the auxiliary handle and use shopping bags over the drill.
just lift some before break thru with the lazer as it cuts so fast and takes big bites as it cuts. lifting causes more of a shaving affect.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 01, 2019, 06:46 PM
would be nice for someone to try screw mode on highest setting and see what happens.

I'll try it when I go out tonight or tomorrow.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 01, 2019, 06:48 PM
ok cool, thanks! what is your auger brand and size? the least that would happen is nothing.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 01, 2019, 06:50 PM
ok cool, thanks! what is your auger brand and size? the least that would happen is nothing.

7" Lazer.  Should have at least 5" of solid, clear ice.  I didn't make it out there today, but it's been well below freezing since I was out last (13 degrees was the high the past 24 hours), so I expect 6"+ to drill through.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 01, 2019, 06:54 PM
some thing someone could get rich at is making an auger adapter with different clutch setting for different augers sizes and types built-in. or make one with fixed slippage for different sized augers like boat motor props have built-in. taking the auger adapters to a new level.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 01, 2019, 06:59 PM
some thing someone could get rich at is making an auger adapter with different clutch setting for different augers sizes and types built-in. or make one with fixed slippage for different sized augers like boat motor props have built-in. taking the auger adapters to a new level.

Yeah, but that would be $$$.  Can't imagine something like that being any less than $50.

I actually built my own adjustable height auger adapter out of about 30" of  3/8" gas pipe, a 2" x 1/2" diameter bolt, a frisbee, and a couple cotter pins for less than $10.  I think it will work great, can't wait to try it out for real (it looks great spinning at home)!  I'll detail the build somewhere here if there aren't any unforeseen surprises.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 01, 2019, 07:11 PM
i like it! the most strain is on the smallest diameter of the link. so the bolt would be just that or the pins. on the kovac system, i had to grind their flats deeper so the three outside edges were sharper. they left too much of it rounded edges and makes for the chuck to slip around it easier. i think it costs 28$
you can see how rounded their outer edges are here.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Jan 01, 2019, 07:16 PM
Bastages just cost me 170. Got the drill and battery/charger combo on its way. Drill is back in stock online.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 01, 2019, 07:17 PM
i like it! the most strain is on the smallest diameter of the link. so the bolt would be just that or the pins. on the kovac system, i had to grind their flats deeper so the three outside edges were sharper. they left too much of it rounded edges and makes for the chuck to slip around it easier. i think it costs 28$
you can see how rounded their outer edges are here.

I didn't want to use an adapter that was designed for a 3/8" chuck in this drill, after seeing how many get snapped right off.  The HT Enterprises adapter looked good, but that's a fatal flaw (plus it's unnecessarily heavy being made from solid steel).

I ground 3 flats on the 1/2" bolt using my belt sander and a ceramic belt designed for metal removal (used in knife making/sharpening).  Nice and beefy, and the outside diameter on the other end of the bolt only need to be shaved a tiny bit to fit snugly into the inside diameter of the 3/8" iron pipe.  Cut the bolt head off and then welded the threaded portion of the bolt into the pipe...   @)

I'd have to do the math, but I think the shoulder bolt that Strikemaster provides which holds the adapter (or original handle)  to the auger bit is probably the weak link.  On my setup, it would likely shear off at the threaded end before my triangular 1/2 bolt would twist off.  In hindsight, I should have used a grade 8, 1/2" bolt on my adapter to ensure that was the case, but I think it will be fine.  Worst case, I have to cut the end off and weld a new one on, but that wouldn't be too big of a deal for me if it becomes necessary.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 01, 2019, 07:36 PM
sounds like you have a grip on it. looking forward to your trial runs and the clutch on the octane with it.

john, you'll be glad you did!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Icemole on Jan 01, 2019, 07:39 PM
I've never run across a drill where the clutch was functional in drilling mode.  That's kind of the point, drill mode locks the clutch out.  Having said that, I would think that this drill would work just fine in screw mode with the clutch turned up towards the top end, as it has more than enough torque.

I'm hoping to finally try mine on the ice tomorrow! ;D

 Pretty sure on my "antique" 18V pre lithium Milwalkee hammer drill the clutch works in both drill + hammer modes. I'd double check but the battery is dead..... will check after I charge up.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Big Sky on Jan 01, 2019, 07:45 PM
Just found this in my collection of ice fishing stuff equivalent to a junk drawer.  Wonder how long I had it? 😳 Looks like the Kovac design.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TyD3t5cy/4810-BA23-4-C0-F-45-C7-933-B-26-AD99-B58-AF2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyD3t5cy)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Big Sky on Jan 01, 2019, 07:48 PM
Clearer pic...


(https://i.postimg.cc/47XRpY2R/8-AFF425-D-B1-CC-4-CAF-A4-A3-234-D6079-FDD6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/47XRpY2R)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 01, 2019, 07:55 PM
Pretty sure on my "antique" 18V pre lithium Milwalkee hammer drill the clutch works in both drill + hammer modes. I'd double check but the battery is dead..... will check after I charge up.

I've owned an old Craftsman, Ryobi, and Milwaukee over the past ~25 years, and none of the clutches on those worked in drill mode.  The 2602-20 M18 Fuel I have doesn't either.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 01, 2019, 07:56 PM
Just found this in my collection of ice fishing stuff equivalent to a junk drawer.  Wonder how long I had it? 😳 Looks like the Kovac design.

(https://i.postimg.cc/TyD3t5cy/4810-BA23-4-C0-F-45-C7-933-B-26-AD99-B58-AF2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TyD3t5cy)

Wow, maybe a Kovac before it was called a Kovac? Purchased at an outdoors show perhaps?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 01, 2019, 07:58 PM
Ive been using that one too.figured its the 1st gen kovac icemaster adapter and the other is  called kovac 2 icemaster adapter?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Big Sky on Jan 01, 2019, 08:13 PM
My bad.  Didn’t look at the back,  it does say Kovac Eneterprises.  I know I’ve had for awhile though. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/8F0nzj8b/0-AEFD140-5179-48-E1-8979-7339-BCEFE1-BD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8F0nzj8b)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: shiveringjoe on Jan 01, 2019, 08:14 PM
That adapter is what I used with an older ridgid and a 6” lazer (with the clam extension tube). Even with the side handle you still need to be careful at the bottom of the hole. The lazer can bite and twist your hands up. I got a clam plate 4 years ago and love that setup. Slightly heavier but no risk of getting twisted up, and it’s a lot easier to put your rig down on the ice and not have your drill in slush. Did my first trip with this drill and an 8” lazer yesterday and it was awesome.
Just found this in my collection of ice fishing stuff equivalent to a junk drawer.  Wonder how long I had it? 😳 Looks like the Kovac design.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 01, 2019, 08:27 PM
That adapter is what I used with an older ridgid and a 6” lazer (with the clam extension tube). Even with the side handle you still need to be careful at the bottom of the hole. The lazer can bite and twist your hands up. I got a clam plate 4 years ago and love that setup. Slightly heavier but no risk of getting twisted up, and it’s a lot easier to put your rig down on the ice and not have your drill in slush. Did my first trip with this drill and an 8” lazer yesterday and it was awesome.
does your lazer 8 grab at the bottom and make you lift up to avoid the grab? that is what i stepped up to from a 6 lazer, but have not had ice to try it on. my 6 never gave me problems.
do you feel you really need the plate with that auger?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: shiveringjoe on Jan 01, 2019, 08:36 PM
I didn’t feel anything with new 8” but that was fresh blades and only 5-6” of ice. My clam plate also wasn’t adjusted properly so I could only do full throttle... which was awesome. Less than 2 seconds per hole and I was covered in water and slush up to my thighs. I had my 6” lazer with the kovac bite a couple times in thicker ice and one time it ripped the side handle off and torqued my hand pretty good. Tendons were sore for a couple weeks. Twice as much drilling area and twice as much torque could be risky. 
does your lazer 8 grab at the bottom and make you lift up to avoid the grab? that is what i stepped up to from a 6 lazer, but have not had ice to try it on. my 6 never gave me problems.
do you feel you really need the plate with that auger?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 01, 2019, 09:03 PM
thanks joe. good to hear you also went from 6 to 8 lazer and it cuts well.
i did that one time going around and reopening lightly refrozen holes quickly and got my wrist wrenched. so now i always use both.

i just keep the drill very close to my body so if the auger grabs my body can assist my arms/hands from going around too far. it gives your arms more leverage. right hand/arm rides my right side and same for the left side. so keeping your elbows out would not help at all, keeping them tucked in does.
 you just have to make sure no clothing gets too close.
mine is about waist high when i start my cut.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Icemole on Jan 02, 2019, 08:04 AM
I've owned an old Craftsman, Ryobi, and Milwaukee over the past ~25 years, and none of the clutches on those worked in drill mode.  The 2602-20 M18 Fuel I have doesn't either.

 Well I checked my old Milwaukee (# 0624-20) and the clutch does indeed function in both drill/hammer modes. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Jan 02, 2019, 09:30 AM
3300, I got in on that deal a while ago.  Already had the Milwaukee 2704 but for $169 for 9amp hr battery, charger, and Ridgid Octane it was too good to pass up.  Been doing all my on ice Nils testing this winter with the Ridgid chucked up to a Kovac adapter.  I don't use the handle and feel if you the drill properly you don't want it.  Hold with your right hand with finger on trigger while handle braced against you forearm. Left palm against the motor.  The torque is easily held back with that technique.  I'd like to add for safety sake, just like your firearm, get used to selecting the off switch(safety) after drilling a hole. You don't want that blade spinning when you don't want it spinning.
Definitely the best Drill Deal this year.

What if you are a lefty?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: slipperybob on Jan 02, 2019, 10:56 AM
What if you are a lefty?

LOL...look in mirror and copy that.

or do what they always tell left handed, goofy footed people.  Do like everybody else!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 02, 2019, 11:58 AM
What if you are a lefty?
then do what frank said to do if you use strikemaster or buy a nils and hold the drill next to your body.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 02, 2019, 12:01 PM
Well I checked my old Milwaukee (# 0624-20) and the clutch does indeed function in both drill/hammer modes.
so you are able to stop the chuck's rotation while in drill mode? sounds defective.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 02, 2019, 12:18 PM
OK lefty,I resemble that. Never have any problems using all the right handed tools. I actually Bowl Right handed. Throw a ball right handed,Throw Frisbee's right or left,Eat Left,write left,shift the car Right(I just find it easier).
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Icemole on Jan 02, 2019, 01:12 PM
so you are able to stop the chuck's rotation while in drill mode? sounds defective.


 I've owned 2 of that model Milwaukee and both worked the same(don't remember the old 12v but I think it was the same).... Clutch is adjustable low # to higher # - the lower the number the quicker the clutch disengages the chuck. Pretty sure the "company" Dewalts of that time also worked the same whether in drill or hammer.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Captain Happy on Jan 02, 2019, 01:14 PM
I just got a Milwaukee drill, the side handle do you put it on the right side or the left for auger drilling?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 02, 2019, 01:43 PM
I just got a Milwaukee drill, the side handle do you put it on the right side or the left for auger drilling?
I have mine straight out the opposite side.   ---0---
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Jan 02, 2019, 02:01 PM
I just got a Milwaukee drill, the side handle do you put it on the right side or the left for auger drilling?

Depends which hand you hold the drill with.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 03, 2019, 12:34 AM
sounds like you have a grip on it. looking forward to your trial runs and the clutch on the octane with it.

john, you'll be glad you did!

Woke up sick last night, so did not get out fishing today.  So much for plans. :%$#!:  Hopefully in the next few days...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Jan 03, 2019, 06:28 AM
so you are able to stop the chuck's rotation while in drill mode? sounds defective.

I'd agree. The entire point of drill mode is to disable the clutch. Functionally the only difference between drill and drive mode is the clutch.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Jan 03, 2019, 09:11 AM
then do what frank said to do if you use strikemaster or buy a nils and hold the drill next to your body.

Do strikemaster augers spin the opposite direction?  The side handles work perfectly fine not sure why anyone wouldn't use them.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: dave_e on Jan 03, 2019, 03:40 PM
On homedepot.com those links only take me to the 9.0ah battery kit for $169 alone.  How do I get the free drill?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: kayl on Jan 03, 2019, 04:06 PM
On homedepot.com those links only take me to the 9.0ah battery kit for $169 alone.  How do I get the free drill?

Add the battery kit and this drill to your cart:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Tool-Only-R8611506B/304304102
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: FishGut on Jan 03, 2019, 04:55 PM
I ordered mine new year's eve. It only took two real days for the battery pack to get here, and my drill arrives tomorrow. That's quick!

Too bad around here we're down to less than 3 inches of wet ice, and a 10 day forecast where it'll be 40-50 during the day and barely below freezing at night.

I guess I'm gonna have to buy some masonry bits and eye bolts to make decorative fieldstone kayak anchors while I wait


Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Jan 03, 2019, 05:16 PM
got mine this morning. all charged up and no where to go. lol
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: dave_e on Jan 03, 2019, 06:11 PM
Add the battery kit and this drill to your cart:
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Tool-Only-R8611506B/304304102

Thanks kayl.

Also thanks to 3300 for the original deal announcement.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: luv2fish2 on Jan 04, 2019, 11:01 AM
So i gotta ask someone with a rigid do the batteries perform the same in the cold or do u have to keep them warm when not in use  ( got mine yesterday)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 04, 2019, 11:44 AM
So i gotta ask someone with a rigid do the batteries perform the same in the cold or do u have to keep them warm when not in use  ( got mine yesterday)
I left mine in the cold to test it.it lost 1 bar pretty quick but stayed at 3 bars after 35  8"holes in 6" of ice.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 04, 2019, 01:39 PM
So i gotta ask someone with a rigid do the batteries perform the same in the cold or do u have to keep them warm when not in use  ( got mine yesterday)
I haven't babied my battery once. I charged it fully before the first time I put it on the ice. Havent taken it off the drill since. Ive had it on the ice several times. 2 days were around 10D, little colder with the wind chill. A couple other days around 20D with a wind chill factor. I'm well over 100 hole and still have 1/4 battery. I'm testing it till it dies, then I'll recharge it.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: slipperybob on Jan 04, 2019, 06:21 PM
So I got the 9AH battery, charged up.  Went to do drilling today.  I have the 8" Strike lite auger.

Ice was between 10-12 inches.   Drilled about 3 dozen holes.  Battery bar checked and it was 50% or two bars.

I'm very surprised at how well the drill worked.  Not once did the Strike lite auger hang up on bottom of ice.  Of course I drill easy and was several times I thought I lost my auger down the hole.  The light set up is amazing.  I think I might not need to bring out the hand auger for early ice anymore.

With hand auger, I wouldn't be doing any more than a dozen holes for the day.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 04, 2019, 08:05 PM
they make a 5 volt usb charger if anyone wanted to have one that slips onto the battery. they are 20$.

thanks for saying thanks dave_e! chilly willy told us when they were in stock. so kudos to him too.
we have been watching and waiting for these to get to the states. they have a different name for the rest of the world and knew we would have them soon enough.

thanks for the update slipperybob! did it used to hang up drilling by hand with same auger?

So i gotta ask someone with a rigid do the batteries perform the same in the cold or do u have to keep them warm when not in use  ( got mine yesterday)
you could throw yours in the freezer and see what happens.
i leave all of my power tools and batteries in the garage unheated. i bring in a battery to let it warm up before charging it in the winter, if it needs a charge. the charger will know if it's too cold or too hot and not let it take a charge until it is with in specs to take a charge.
i always charge after going ice fishing.

keeping lithium batteries at max charge stress out the cells. best to keep them at 70/72% or 3 bars until your ready to use them, then either top charge or use them as is. this is why they don't arrive fully charged to your door.

my dji mavic pro drone smart batteries self discharge to 72% after 10 days and that time is adjustable on how long you want to keep them stressing.

you can use your charger unplugged to discharge it.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 04, 2019, 09:54 PM
Woke up sick last night, so did not get out fishing today.  So much for plans. :%$#!:  Hopefully in the next few days...

Finally got out on the ice this afternoon/evening!  I am seriously impressed by this setup!  :o @)

I'm running a 7" Lazer on an adjustable homemade auger adapter (which also had its maiden voyage and performed quite well if I do say so myself :)).  7" of clear, solid ice, and it cut through in under 3 seconds!  :thumbsup: :woot:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/641arBi22PAty/giphy.gif)

I cut about 20 holes for me and my buddies, and it is still showing 4 bars on the battery.  I did not experience any hang up at the bottom of the hole.  I generally pressed down a little bit to keep it steady, but even when backing off and lifting up on the drill head when close to breaking through, I did not have any issues.  Pretty d@mn impressed!!!  :clap:

(https://i.postimg.cc/TpWWsj4Z/IMG-3497.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/TpWWsj4Z)

(Apologies for the vertical video.  :-\)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 05, 2019, 12:08 AM
nice, threw ice 3 feet out at least! looks like your extension works well too.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 05, 2019, 12:59 AM
nice, threw ice 3 feet out at least! looks like your extension works well too.

Yeah, it's a friggin' beast!  :thumbsup:  Can easily flood the ice with a LOT of water quickly if you continue to run it after breakthrough.  Tempted to get an 8" head now.  ;D

The 3/8" gas pipe extension was flawless.  I'll detail the build later, but suffice to say I'm quite pleased with the $9 I spent and the ~90 minutes it took me to make.  I still want to spray paint it with some good high temp grill enamel to help prevent rust for the long term, but that isn't a huge rush.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: slipperybob on Jan 05, 2019, 01:13 AM


thanks for the update slipperybob! did it used to hang up drilling by hand with same auger?




I'm not using my hand auger.  Now that I think about it, I should've bought the drill adapter for that one too.

It's a powerhead auger from the Strikelite.  Even with my Strike Lite Robin Engine, brand new when I bought the auger, It hanged up quite often as I'm punching through.  It was, sort of aggressive.  If paying attention, a little lifting to ease up on the punch through worked out better.

I was kind of worry about auger walk during the drill process too, since I always remember the wobble.  Testing the empty drill at home with the ice auger, there was some slight wobble.  As the connection has some space to prevent the adapter from plugging up, so there's always some movement.

I am very surprised at how smooth and straight this set up worked out on actual ice.  Not once did I had to worry of auger bite or bind during the drill process.  The sides of my ice holes were very smooth.  Smoother than I had ever seen, but maybe it was just the ice.  It was 40F air temps today.  I will see how -10F temps will do one of these days.  Best of all is weight reduction.  That composite strike lite auger...wow.  Strikemaster needs to rebuild that composite auger.

I think I should've added more pipe insulation to the shaft, cuz grabbing it by the insulation with bare hands...wow...such difference without touching cold steel.  I also lost the glue part of the fighting.  I got too complacent drilling and it fell off into the ice hole.

I will say that while drilling and moving the unit, the auxilary handle may loosen up.  So I am almost always double checking it.  I also really like setting the handle 180 degrees on opposing the drill handle ---0--- method.  Way better than the standard left/right at 90 degree set up.
Title: Re: RIGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Jan 05, 2019, 08:09 AM
Anyone else have where the handle connects to the drill strip off? Those little metal tabs are gone off my drill after a few uses where the auger caught and twisted the handle causing them to strip off.  Pretty poor design if you ask me, needs more to grab onto.

are you sure you didn't tighten it too much?  after playing with mine, I can see where that could come into play.  it feels like I could just keep cranking it down and completely break off those ears on the drill!!!!!!  anyone else feel that this is a weak spot?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 05, 2019, 09:49 AM
Haven't drilled yet. Hooked mine to 8 inch lazer. When stops abruptly from the drill makes loud clang. Which is vibration from auger? Hopefully won't do that under load. Anyone have that spinning and stopping on air? Nothing loose either
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 05, 2019, 10:51 AM
has electric brakes. need to let off the trigger slower. it's just doing what your telling it to do.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 05, 2019, 11:00 AM
slipperybob, thanks for the update! so you like the aux handle that way, does it feel off balance much? that's what i was saying to the guy that broke his ear off to try.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 05, 2019, 11:06 AM
Tried letting off very very touchy! Maybe it will wear in a little after use
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 05, 2019, 11:41 AM
Finally got out on the ice this afternoon/evening!  I am seriously impressed by this setup!  :o @)

I'm running a 7" Lazer on an adjustable homemade auger adapter (which also had its maiden voyage and performed quite well if I do say so myself :)).  7" of clear, solid ice, and it cut through in under 3 seconds!  :thumbsup: :woot:

Awesome. Glad you like the set up. Your definitely ripped as well!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 05, 2019, 11:46 AM
Finally ran the battery down. Heres my cutting totals!!

First day: +\- 50 holes in 7-8” of ice.
Second day: +\- 30 holes through 10” of ice.
Third day: +\-30 holes in 12” of ice.
Fourth Day. +/- 20 holes in 12" of ice.
Fifth Day: 6 holes in 14" of ice.

All ice was hard, solid ice. The last 3 times I used this set up was below freezing.

The battery still had a little juice today, but was cutting out every second or two. Id say thats pretty good.

Have to say I chuckle every time I see/hear someone cranking on an old jiffy/eskimo.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: kayl on Jan 05, 2019, 11:50 AM
Tried letting off very very touchy! Maybe it will wear in a little after use

It might have a defective brake. I had one like that and exchanged it out for another one that is much better.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 05, 2019, 12:05 PM
still waiting for someone to try the clutch out.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 05, 2019, 03:23 PM
It was way better drilling! Tried first time today zipped right thru. Using clam plate. Is little wobble with it but no issues.
The clutch? Heck I didn't know it was a stick shift 😬
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Jan 05, 2019, 04:52 PM
Mine is also loud when braking. Its the loudest when there is nothing to slow the auger down (if you spin it in the air and let off) so of course make sure there is always resistance when letting off the trigger.

I will say the thing does spin much faster than I'm used to on my Ion! 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 05, 2019, 05:08 PM
sounds good, means your fishing faster with this set up.
540 rpm low
2000 rpm high
the higher the torque the better the motor can stay at rated rpm under load.
i can't find ion's rated rpm.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: slipperybob on Jan 05, 2019, 07:47 PM
slipperybob, thanks for the update! so you like the aux handle that way, does it feel off balance much? that's what i was saying to the guy that broke his ear off to try.

Works so much better 180 degrees aux handle set up and drill balances so much better as well.  I'm drilling downward, not sideways.  If anyone understands the application of a fisherman with a rod and how to maintain center of gravity with pole, applies very well to drill handle set up this way.

The clamping design attachment of the aux handle worried me at first, since there is some slight bow/torsion flex.  But then I realize, I'm using an 8" auger and not just something like a 1/4 drill bit or so.  A full metal tang handle would really boost my confidence.  ;)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 05, 2019, 11:43 PM
Finally ran the battery down. Heres my cutting totals!!

First day: +\- 50 holes in 7-8” of ice.
Second day: +\- 30 holes through 10” of ice.
Third day: +\-30 holes in 12” of ice.
Fourth Day. +/- 20 holes in 12" of ice.
Fifth Day: 6 holes in 14" of ice.

All ice was hard, solid ice. The last 3 times I used this set up was below freezing.

The battery still had a little juice today, but was cutting out every second or two. Id say thats pretty good.

Have to say I chuckle every time I see/hear someone cranking on an old jiffy/eskimo.

Holy crap!!!   :o  :thumbsup:  :bow:  That's around 115 FEET of ice drilled on a single charge!!!  @) @) @) Unreal!  ;D

still waiting for someone to try the clutch out.

I tried it today, and it did NOT work too well.  The drill couldn't overcome just the inertia of the auger hanging in the air until I cranked it to almost 90 on the clutch, and it would barley slip.  Cranked ALL the way down to maximum, I could get the auger to turn while hanging in the air.  But set down on the ice, it would not turn the auger.  Drill mode only for me.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 05, 2019, 11:51 PM
cool, thanks for checking it out!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Cjnstorm on Jan 06, 2019, 05:25 PM
I used my octane for the first time today, 6 inches of ice, on drill , setting one, brand new 8 inch lazer, cut good except the drill kept stopping like twice for each hole i drilled. released the trigger and pulled again to continue drilling. not sure if this has anything to do with it but i have a strikemaster aluminum drill adapter that i noticed was twisted and almost ready to break from the torque, what am i doing wrong, any info is appreciated thanks
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 06, 2019, 05:47 PM
your mileage may vary, and I would expect much more holes with a shaver blade, but I prefer to use the KDrill so this is how I tested it and how each drill handled it.

I might pick up a 9ah battery for the DeWalt just so I can get a good fair baseline comparison.

My thoughts on this.  The Ridgid Octane is going to be plenty of drill for the vast majority of people and the cutout issue will be a non-factor.  However, I don't think  it can be ignored either.

&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: .Pan Handler on Jan 06, 2019, 06:12 PM
One thing I’ve noticed about my Rigid after a few days on the ice now is that when the point of the auger is on the ice, when I pull the trigger it doesn’t always activate the drill. It does it sporadically and sometimes I can drill 5-8 holes in a row normally and then the next one the drill won’t spin but the chuck light does go on so it knows I depressed about the trigger.  If I take the pressure off the drill and push the trigger with the auger in the air and under no load,  it always will go. My Dewalt has never acted like this. Any advice or has this happened to others?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 06, 2019, 06:54 PM
What's that dewalt model! He said rigid octane, no specify with dewalt?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 06, 2019, 07:02 PM
One thing I’ve noticed about my Rigid after a few days on the ice now is that when the point of the auger is on the ice, when I pull the trigger it doesn’t always activate the drill. It does it sporadically and sometimes I can drill 5-8 holes in a row normally and then the next one the drill won’t spin but the chuck light does go on so it knows I depressed about the trigger.  If I take the pressure off the drill and push the trigger with the auger in the air and under no load,  it always will go. My Dewalt has never acted like this. Any advice or has this happened to others?
you know now that i think about it my octane does the exact same thing a few times too.id put the auger to the ice hit the clam plate trigger and nothing.id have to let off and try again.spoardic too.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 06, 2019, 07:17 PM
Mine did that once too
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: wallydiven on Jan 06, 2019, 07:23 PM
What's that dewalt model! He said rigid octane, no specify with dewalt?
He mentioned that it was model 996.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 06, 2019, 07:24 PM
Strange.my light comes on too so i know it has power.once or twice it would start for a second stop and id have to let off and pull the trigger again.sometimes it would do that on the first hole.not really a big problem yet but if it gets worse i will return it and go with the Milwaukee fuel.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 06, 2019, 07:32 PM
996 is a three speed
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 06, 2019, 07:40 PM
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=364596.msg3912928#msg3912928

https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=364491.0
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Cjnstorm on Jan 06, 2019, 07:55 PM
It was brought to my attention and let me know if this sounds right, it might be a safety feature, the drill has more torque and speed that the auger cant keep up, builds up pressure and stops.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 06, 2019, 08:02 PM
Definitely sounds like some folks are encountering the drill's overload protection feature a bit prematurely.  Similar to the Milwaukee head-to-head comparo video earlier in the thread.  If I were having this problem (and as my video shows, I'm clearly not), I would definitely be exchanging the drill head ASAP!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 06, 2019, 08:24 PM
1 out of 21 had the early protection kick in too soon. just exchange it. could get a few and return the one you don't want. i'll probably call ridgid and talk to them.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Tool-Only-R8611506B/304304102#customer_reviews
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 06, 2019, 09:09 PM
One thing I’ve noticed about my Rigid after a few days on the ice now is that when the point of the auger is on the ice, when I pull the trigger it doesn’t always activate the drill. It does it sporadically and sometimes I can drill 5-8 holes in a row normally and then the next one the drill won’t spin but the chuck light does go on so it knows I depressed about the trigger.  If I take the pressure off the drill and push the trigger with the auger in the air and under no load,  it always will go. My Dewalt has never acted like this. Any advice or has this happened to others?
Can’t say I experienced this with any of the 150 holes I cut.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 06, 2019, 09:44 PM
your mileage may vary, and I would expect much more holes with a shaver blade, but I prefer to use the KDrill so this is how I tested it and how each drill handled it.

I might pick up a 9ah battery for the DeWalt just so I can get a good fair baseline comparison.

My thoughts on this.  The Ridgid Octane is going to be plenty of drill for the vast majority of people and the cutout issue will be a non-factor.  However, I don't think  it can be ignored either.

&feature=youtu.be

The video shows the Ridgid drill's protection circuitry off quite well.  It could be looked at as either a hinderance, or a great feature that's preventing you from frying your drill/battery, depending on which way you're looking at it.

I would like to know if it was the over temperature protection or the over load protection shutting the drill off.  Another possibility could be deep discharge of the battery, where too much change is being used too quickly.  If he had the BT app enabled (looks like he did, it flashed blue at one point when he was showing the charge gage), a quick check of the alert history would show what's up.  I'll go comment on his video and see if he could let us know.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Jan 06, 2019, 09:49 PM
Wow!!! VERY unimpressive for a 9ah battery.... 14 inches of ice x 40 holes= 560 inches. I guess you get what you pay for, The Milwaukee does that many holes on 1-5ah battery and doesn't lay down on you halfway through the battery charge. Great video thanks for posting :tipup:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 06, 2019, 10:23 PM
Wow!!! VERY unimpressive for a 9ah battery.... 14 inches of ice x 40 holes= 560 inches. I guess you get what you pay for, The Milwaukee does that many holes on 1-5ah battery and doesn't lay down on you halfway through the battery charge. Great video thanks for posting :tipup:

No.  ::)  Taken totally out of context.  Are you cutting all those holes with your Milwaukee all at once? Read back a bit further:

Finally ran the battery down. Heres my cutting totals!!

First day: +\- 50 holes in 7-8” of ice.
Second day: +\- 30 holes through 10” of ice.
Third day: +\-30 holes in 12” of ice.
Fourth Day. +/- 20 holes in 12" of ice.
Fifth Day: 6 holes in 14" of ice.

All ice was hard, solid ice. The last 3 times I used this set up was below freezing.

The battery still had a little juice today, but was cutting out every second or two. Id say thats pretty good.

Have to say I chuckle every time I see/hear someone cranking on an old jiffy/eskimo.

NOT run back-to back, the OP of this thread has cut about 115 FEET of ice on one battery charge.  The test in this video is not typical of real-world usage, where the OP's is much more realistic.  I've personally cut 40 holes the past 2 days (plus or minus a few) in 6"-7" of ice, 6-7 holes at a time, and my drill had ZERO issues and the battery is still at 85% charge.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Jan 07, 2019, 06:11 AM
well DTro I guess you'll have to do another vid. 6 holes at a time switching drills.  lol 

great vid DTro :clap:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 07, 2019, 06:26 AM
Another thing I noticed with my octane is when i first put my auger on it was a tight fit and I couldn’t rotate the auger left and right.now after cutting 75 holes i can spin the auger left or right almost 2”.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 07, 2019, 06:41 AM
What's that dewalt model! He said rigid octane, no specify with dewalt?

Dewalt 996 w/5 ah battery
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 07, 2019, 06:47 AM
Yes, there are a variety of tests that would be interesting to try.  I thought about doing 10-20 holes each day without charging and see how many days I can go.   It sort of replicates more of the average fisherman, however I'd bet most of those guys are charging in between trips.   Also the DeWalt model was DCD996, I think I mentioned it several times in the video.



Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 07, 2019, 07:04 AM
I'm not brand bias. Only interested because I bought the octane. Something seems not right? i used a 8 inch lazer yesterday each hole about a 12 inch ice. I drilled over 20 holes and have 3/4 battery left and left out on ice. Now for some reason right when I started first hole just in beginning it cut out. Never did it again? Have 1/2-3/4 free movement in chuck. Like someone Maybe spinning a auger something is happening and not intended to do that lol
Have dewalt products too. What's price point comparison between the two?
I'll keep using see what happens. Next If I get a chance I'll drill bunch holes in a row
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 07, 2019, 07:27 AM
I'm not brand bias. Only interested because I bought the octane. Something seems not right? i used a 8 inch lazer yesterday each hole about a 12 inch ice. I drilled over 20 holes and have 3/4 battery left and left out on ice. Now for some reason right when I started first hole just in beginning it cut out. Never did it again? Have 1/2-3/4 free movement in chuck. Like someone Maybe spinning a auger something is happening and not intended to do that lol
Have dewalt products too. What's price point comparison between the two?
I'll keep using see what happens. Next If I get a chance I'll drill bunch holes in a row
same thing I  started out with chuck rock solid with no movement .now I can turn mine pretty far right or left.run it till it breaks.lifetime warranty anyways.i drilled about 75 holes so far and mine has cutout 5 times.so random too.sometimes first thing in the morning without even cutting a hole,sometimes after 8 holes,other times wont do it  at all.the play in the chuck is not good I don't think.lol
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 07, 2019, 08:05 AM
call them if you want answers.

Ridge Tool Company
400 Clark St
Elyria, Ohio 44035
United States

Phone: 1-800-4-RIDGID (1-800-474-3443)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 4Buck on Jan 07, 2019, 08:46 AM
same thing I  started out with chuck rock solid with no movement .now I can turn mine pretty far right or left.run it till it breaks.lifetime warranty anyways.i drilled about 75 holes so far and mine has cutout 5 times.so random too.sometimes first thing in the morning without even cutting a hole,sometimes after 8 holes,other times wont do it  at all.the play in the chuck is not good I don't think.lol


Do you have yours on the Clam Plate? Mine was doing the same thing and I kept moving the adjusting the trigger on the plate and now it doesn't seem to do it anymore.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 09:09 AM
your mileage may vary, and I would expect much more holes with a shaver blade, but I prefer to use the KDrill so this is how I tested it and how each drill handled it.

I might pick up a 9ah battery for the DeWalt just so I can get a good fair baseline comparison.

My thoughts on this.  The Ridgid Octane is going to be plenty of drill for the vast majority of people and the cutout issue will be a non-factor.  However, I don't think  it can be ignored either.


Have to say I'm surprised to see the difference between the Nils and KDrill. I got 150 holes with my Nils. Shocked you only got 40 with your KDrill. I knew the Kdrill chipper blade would be less, but am shocked at the difference.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Jan 07, 2019, 09:34 AM
Have to say I'm surprised to see the difference between the Nils and KDrill. I got 150 holes with my Nils. Shocked you only got 40 with your KDrill. I knew the Kdrill chipper blade would be less, but am shocked at the difference.

I don't think you would get 150 holes on the same day.  In his last test I think the shaver blade cut close to 50% more holes against the kdrill.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: luv2fish2 on Jan 07, 2019, 11:31 AM
Yeah i purchased one for my friend and he just texted me it's cutting out like it's the overload protection, he's b***hing ( i new it was to good to be true) you know what they say no good deed goes unpunished like its all my fault
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 07, 2019, 12:14 PM
swap it out or exchange or get a refund. no need for him to complain to you. only one person has bothered to swap it out and he is good to go now.

sounds like it's the poor way the kdrill cuts is affecting the overload protection. the load is not consistent and the way the motor talks to the battery trying to figure out the load while people are raising their bits to try to clear out the shavings is messing with it. those who keep a constant or somewhat constant load aren't having so much trouble.

tell him to keep the bit under the same load the entire cut and see what happens instead of stopping the cut to raise the cutting head to spin off the shavings. pretty sure this is the problem.

QUOT:
This means, under heavy loads, the tool talks to the battery to determine when to draw maximum power to the motor, allowing the tool to increase performance and finish the task.
END QUOT
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Tool-Only-R8611506B/304304102
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 12:27 PM
I don't think you would get 150 holes on the same day.  In his last test I think the shaver blade cut close to 50% more holes against the kdrill.
I probably wouldn't. Did 50 holes the first day I had it on the ice (8".) 20 of them back to back just to test it out. Had just dropped to 3/4 on my last few holes.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 12:29 PM
Yeah i purchased one for my friend and he just texted me it's cutting out like it's the overload protection, he's b***hing ( i new it was to good to be true) you know what they say no good deed goes unpunished like its all my fault
HD will return it no questions asked. Mines been 100% flawless. Ive had a few people message me saying their drill "was cutting out" and 9/10 of them didn't have it on the correct settings. Not saying your buddies wasnt, but has to be on setting 1, drill mode. It will cut out every time on setting 2.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 12:36 PM
swap it out or exchange or get a refund. no need for him to complain to you. only one person has bothered to swap it out and he is good to go now.

sounds like it's the poor way the kdrill cuts is affecting the overload protection. the load is not consistent and the way the motor talks to the battery trying to figure out the load while people are raising their bits to try to clear out the shavings is messing with it. those who keep a constant or somewhat constant load aren't having so much trouble.

tell him to keep the bit under the same load the entire cut and see what happens instead of stooping the cut to raise the cutting head to spin off the shavings. pretty sure this is the problem.

QUOT:
This means, under heavy loads, the tool talks to the battery to determine when to draw maximum power to the motor, allowing the tool to increase performance and finish the task.
END QUOT
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Tool-Only-R8611506B/304304102

Well said 3300. I was thinking of a tactful was of addressing this. Ive had several people (25 or so) message me about the Octane. Both through here, FB and YouTube. 75% have been with the K-Drill, 25% strikemaster/eskimo shaver blade style augers. Once my Nils starts cutting it melts through the ice. Seems like the KDrill folks aren't as smooth. I wish I had someone close by who had the KDrill, id love to see how it ran on my Octane. Ive heard nothing about good things with the Octane/Nils crowd. Not to offend anyone, but think the Octane excels with the Nils.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Jan 07, 2019, 12:42 PM
swap it out or exchange or get a refund. no need for him to complain to you. only one person has bothered to swap it out and he is good to go now.

sounds like it's the poor way the kdrill cuts is affecting the overload protection. the load is not consistent and the way the motor talks to the battery trying to figure out the load while people are raising their bits to try to clear out the shavings is messing with it. those who keep a constant or somewhat constant load aren't having so much trouble.

tell him to keep the bit under the same load the entire cut and see what happens instead of stooping the cut to raise the cutting head to spin off the shavings. pretty sure this is the problem.

QUOT:
This means, under heavy loads, the tool talks to the battery to determine when to draw maximum power to the motor, allowing the tool to increase performance and finish the task.
END QUOT
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Tool-Only-R8611506B/304304102

Except that at least 2 I see complaining about the issue are using lazer.  No problems in 3 years with my kdrill and milwaukee. Always smooth and haven't changed or sharpened the blades yet.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 4Buck on Jan 07, 2019, 12:56 PM
I would like to know how many that are having the cutting out problem are using the Clam Plate?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Jan 07, 2019, 01:06 PM
Well said 3300. I was thinking of a tactful was of addressing this. Ive had several people (25 or so) message me about the Octane. Both through here, FB and YouTube. 75% have been with the K-Drill, 25% strikemaster/eskimo shaver blade style augers. Once my Nils starts cutting it melts through the ice. Seems like the KDrill folks aren't as smooth. I wish I had someone close by who had the KDrill, id love to see how it ran on my Octane. Ive heard nothing about good things with the Octane/Nils crowd. Not to offend anyone, but think the Octane excels with the Nils.

What makes you say that?

What are people messaging you about? The drill cutting out? Or they are telling you the octane isn't smooth with the kdrill?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 07, 2019, 01:08 PM
nate the milwaukee obviously does not have this intelligent circuit the ridgid has so it seems to ignore the load differences.  as far as i know this is ridgids first go with it.
there are other tools that have this circuit it in now including milwaukee newest right angle drill or seems to have it because it stops if the load is too much instead of breaking wrists and not using a clutch system like drill modes do not use.
the folks having poor results with their lazers would more than likely have even worse resits with the kdrill.
yes there are a few other large bit issues and swapping the drill out for another one is the resolve for them. i have no idea why they are not staying consistent between drills. it seems to be tolerances in their circuits are different for some reason.
the dewalt also isn't using this newest protection/load draw circuit nor are any of my older ridgid tools including 4 other ridgid drills.
if it is a problem, ridgid will have to change the circuit to remedy the situation or adjust it if it's adjustable. it acts like it is adjustable with the different results folks are getting, but who knows for sure other than ridgid.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 07, 2019, 01:10 PM
Do you have yours on the Clam Plate? Mine was doing the same thing and I kept moving the adjusting the trigger on the plate and now it doesn't seem to do it anymore.
yes mine is on a clam plate and the trigger mech is hitting it dead on.my light comes on so I know the trigger is pushed in.mines not overloading I wouldnt  think because sometimes it does it before I even cut a single hole..it really not that bad and its a second out of the day but don't know if it will get worse.starting out with a octane that had a tight chuck with no left/right play and now I can turn it by hand over a inch either way is more concerning.i have 90 days to run it and lsa so time will tell.im running a mora 8".the drill rips lots  of holes easy most times and I have done 10 in a row then put it down for a few hrs then it may work or shutoff sporadic.never know when its going to happen.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Jan 07, 2019, 01:13 PM
If it is true that it cant handle variable load then it sounds like poor engineering on behalf of Ridgid. In a perfect world there may be a constant load on a tool but here in the real world that is not the case. Drilling through layers of different materials, hitting a knot in wood, or drilling through laminations just to name a few. Sounds to me like they may be afraid of burning up a motor that can't output the rated torque for anything more than a short burst. It is a good thing for the consumer that the warranty is there. Probably a bad idea to tell them it is being used for an ice auger. If we ever get ice again I want to do some more testing with mine. If the second drill has issues then it may be time to pull the plug while I still can.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 07, 2019, 01:20 PM
but were are talking about a video that stress's these systems to see what happens and we are talking about the results of it. you don't cut as many holes as it can for kicks in a real world to see what happens. you cut what you need to cut.

when i said variable i said full on and full off. not some where in between.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Finnt on Jan 07, 2019, 01:21 PM
A friend of mine bought a rigid drill from home depot and used it with a 7 in lazer and it was cutting out after 3 holes ,and after 15 holes later thru out the day noticed the drill had a lot backlash in the gearing.  Went out the next day and drilled 4 holes and something snapped in the drill and locked up. He took it back to store and returned it and got the dewalt 996 with 2 5amphr. Batts and charger. He used that all day with the same augers no problems, plus the side handle is better design than the rigid and the Milwaukee, No snapping handles off with the dewalt. I run my dewalt 996 with the same auger as him and have not had any problems at all. Sounds like the rigid has has some issues with torque and battery overload  protection
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Jan 07, 2019, 01:44 PM
but were are talking about a video that stress's these systems to see what happens and we are talking about the results of it. you don't cut as many holes as it can for kicks in a real world to see what happens. you cut what you need to cut.

when i said variable i said full on and full off. not some where in between.

What I'm getting at here is a drill that cannot handle dynamic load is poorly engineered. The majority of these drills being sold will never see an ice auger. In the real world someone will use the drill where the load will go from full to nothing back to full. Like drilling through steel tubing. I also just came across a couple test videos on youtube putting the ridgid against a milwaukee. The ridgid was cutting out on overload turning a spade bit. The milwaukee did too until they switched to the 6ah high output battery. Then the Milwaukee had no cutout issues. That said If the octane can only reliably operate with a nils auger then that counts me and many others out.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Jan 07, 2019, 01:46 PM
nate the milwaukee obviously does not have this intelligent circuit the ridgid has so it seems to ignore the load differences.  as far as i know this is ridgids first go with it.
there are other tools that have this circuit it in now including milwaukee newest right angle drill or seems to have it because it stops if the load is too much instead of breaking wrists and not using a clutch system like drill modes do not use.
the folks having poor results with their lazers would more than likely have even worse resits with the kdrill.
yes there are a few other large bit issues and swapping the drill out for another one is the resolve for them. i have no idea why they are not staying consistent between drills. it seems to be tolerances in their circuits are different for some reason.
the dewalt also isn't using this newest protection/load draw circuit nor are any of my older ridgid tools including 4 other ridgid drills.
if it is a problem, ridgid will have to change the circuit to remedy the situation or adjust it if it's adjustable. it acts like it is adjustable with the different results folks are getting, but who knows for sure other than ridgid.

You said kdrill was the problem when clearly it isn't.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 02:02 PM
What makes you say that?

What are people messaging you about? The drill cutting out? Or they are telling you the octane isn't smooth with the kdrill?
I was referring to people messaging me about the octane cutting out with KDrill, Lazer and Eskimo type Auger.

A good majority of them folks didn’t have the drill set up correctly either. Example trying to run on setting 2.

My set up hasn’t cut out once, and  I’ve had more KDrill/ Lazer users say they love the Octane vs not.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 07, 2019, 02:03 PM
You said kdrill was the problem when clearly it isn't.
it certainly seems to be with the ridgid. isn't that the discussion as of late?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 02:08 PM
it certainly seems to be with the ridgid. isn't that the discussion as of late?
I'm going to see if I can track down a KDrill and see how it works with my Ridgid.

Did the other guy get 25 holes back to back before the overload kicked in??? I watched the video but cant remember if it cut out before.


Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 07, 2019, 02:21 PM
yep 25 no problem other than some video glitch where he lost his data on his device and did a redo the next day and didn't show a full charge on the batteries before hand.

i'd like to add that last i knew, lithium does not take a full and complete charge on the first few charges. they need a few more charges to balance out the cells.
i used to make battery packs for racing and i would match the cells to have the same charge/discharge rate as close as i could to get best results. i am pretty sure no tool company is doing this, but so you know you should get better results after your first few cycles on the battery. because the cells are in one line to create the desired voltage the first cell gets fully charged while the last gets the least. to keep the first from being over charged it has to stop charging so the charger says it's done. leaving it on the charger may float charge them and give a much more thorough charge from start to end. but we want them charged now, so they fast charge them. it doesn't matter who's cell's are being used. we have no idea how many times the new 9 amp batteries with cut-out issues have been cycled, so there is that to consider.

What I'm getting at here is a drill that cannot handle dynamic load is poorly engineered. The majority of these drills being sold will never see an ice auger. In the real world someone will use the drill where the load will go from full to nothing back to full. Like drilling through steel tubing. I also just came across a couple test videos on youtube putting the ridgid against a milwaukee. The ridgid was cutting out on overload turning a spade bit. The milwaukee did too until they switched to the 6ah high output battery. Then the Milwaukee had no cutout issues. That said If the octane can only reliably operate with a nils auger then that counts me and many others out.
for now it is speculation or theory from what information is being presented on this forum. we will know in due time what the situation really is.
i called where i take my tools and they have no octane tools in shop for repairs and haven't heard of octane having issues. because it is early for the tool to go thru all of the paces we put them thru, speculation or returning them is all we have.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 07, 2019, 02:24 PM
A friend of mine bought a rigid drill from home depot and used it with a 7 in lazer and it was cutting out after 3 holes ,and after 15 holes later thru out the day noticed the drill had a lot backlash in the gearing.  Went out the next day and drilled 4 holes and something snapped in the drill and locked up. He took it back to store and returned it and got the dewalt 996 with 2 5amphr. Batts and charger. He used that all day with the same augers no problems, plus the side handle is better design than the rigid and the Milwaukee, No snapping handles off with the dewalt. I run my dewalt 996 with the same auger as him and have not had any problems at all. Sounds like the rigid has has some issues with torque and battery overload  protection

the 996 is 841 inch pounds. better than ridgid's pre-octane specs of 780 for their brushed gen5x (what i have and works as it should) and 750 for their gen5x brushless. the new milwaukee has the improved handle trying to get away from the cracked gear cases the version before it produced.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Jan 07, 2019, 02:37 PM
sounds like it's the poor way the kdrill cuts is affecting the overload protection.

It is happening with kdrill and the shavers (mora,lazer), so I'm not sure how you got this "conclusion."

a drill that cannot handle dynamic load is poorly engineered.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Jan 07, 2019, 02:54 PM
I was referring to people messaging me about the octane cutting out with KDrill, Lazer and Eskimo type Auger.

A good majority of them folks didn’t have the drill set up correctly either. Example trying to run on setting 2.

My set up hasn’t cut out once, and  I’ve had more KDrill/ Lazer users say they love the Octane vs not.

So 75 percent of people who have messaged you about the octane cutting out were using a kdrill?  Hope your Nils keeps working out for ya, I loved mine for half a season, until it didn't want to cut anymore and I had to spend money and time sending it out to get sharpened (which I didn't, just went back to the trusty mora I had used my whole life previously, Nils is still just sittin in the shed). When they are sharp it is the smoothest cutting bit I've tried for sure.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Finnt on Jan 07, 2019, 02:57 PM
3300 the drill my buddy bought was the rigid 1300 in lbs with the 9 amp he batts . I had a Milwaukee m18 fuel  that was recommended for the k-drill that I also bought at the same time.  the handle broke off and the case separated. Got rid of both and got  the 996 and lazer for a lot less.  The k-drill is lighter than the lazer but it generates a lot of torque . Lazer augers has about half of the torque that is needed for a kdrill.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 07, 2019, 03:02 PM
I'm gonna tell you right now I have no horse in this race.  Strictly doing it for a subject on my YouTube channel and to help out fellow ice fisherman.  I can assure you with 100% certainty that the battery was fully charged and I was in the correct mode.   The first day segment didn't record for some reason.  I do have the audio I can play for you though.  LOL    The same exact thing happened on both days.  24 or 25th hole and it cut out.

What I can tell you is that I noticed the cutting out was happening with some sort of variation.  First I would question why it didn't cut out during the first 25 holes?   Next I would question when it did cut out, why more frequently after it happened the first time.  It's obvious its related to a weaker battery and or heat issue.   

Again, no horse in this race and no inherent bias.   I'll be doing more tests this week. 

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 4Buck on Jan 07, 2019, 03:07 PM
yes mine is on a clam plate and the trigger mech is hitting it dead on.my light comes on so I know the trigger is pushed in.mines not overloading I wouldnt  think because sometimes it does it before I even cut a single hole..it really not that bad and its a second out of the day but don't know if it will get worse.starting out with a octane that had a tight chuck with no left/right play and now I can turn it by hand over a inch either way is more concerning.i have 90 days to run it and lsa so time will tell.im running a mora 8".the drill rips lots  of holes easy most times and I have done 10 in a row then put it down for a few hrs then it may work or shutoff sporadic.never know when its going to happen.

Yep mine was doing the same thing with the light coming on and no drill, let off and it would work fine the next time. I messed around with the trigger on the clam plate several times now it seems to work great. What I was getting at is I am not sure if there is a problem with this issue if not using a clam plate??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 4Buck on Jan 07, 2019, 03:11 PM
Sounds like Home Depot is out of stock on the drills now anyway.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 03:15 PM
So 75 percent of people who have messaged you about the octane cutting out were using a kdrill?  Hope your Nils keeps working out for ya, I loved mine for half a season, until it didn't want to cut anymore and I had to spend money and time sending it out to get sharpened (which I didn't, just went back to the trusty mora I had used my whole life previously, Nils is still just sittin in the shed). When they are sharp it is the smoothest cutting bit I've tried for sure.
Yes, but keep in mind a good majority of that 75% had their drill on the wrong settings. In my conversation travels, i've only talked with, or saw 2 people who returned the Octane due to it cutting out.

As seen is the other guys video, he got 24 holes through 14" of ice with the KDrill before it shut down, which I think is amazing for a KDrill as they aren't as smooth as my Nils. I personally like the override.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: ranger10 on Jan 07, 2019, 03:45 PM
I am using the Octane with a clam plate and 8" kdrill, I was able to get 52 holes in 8" to 10" of ice. It did not cut out until I had two lights on the battery. really started to notice it more as the battery got lower. I am running the drill in drill mode and the lower speed setting.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 07, 2019, 03:55 PM
They give lifetime warranty.
Business stand point:
override/cutting out is protection for drill/ company, hence lifetime warranty? If drill breaks, get it replaced for free. (Is that no extra fees?or flat out free)

Dewalt gives a year... you burn it out, your  buying another.
 I have some dewalts too, first rigid for me.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 03:59 PM
I am using the Octane with a clam plate and 8" kdrill, I was able to get 52 holes in 8" to 10" of ice. It did not cut out until I had two lights on the battery. really started to notice it more as the battery got lower. I am running the drill in drill mode and the lower speed setting.
Great review Ranger10. Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Finnt on Jan 07, 2019, 04:02 PM
I am not one of the people that have used the drill in the wrong speed . I had the Milwaukee m18,  the drill I had was the first version they made recommended for the k-drill . It just failed mechanically and I found out this was happening a lot to others, so I returned it and got the dewalt that was recommended for kdrill. All manufacturers of all power tools will have limitations. We are putting a lot of torque on these drills buy putting all kinds augers on them. I will tell you if tell them that the drill broke or failed electronically while coupled with a ice auger they would not warranty them. I think the manufacturers will change the wording in the warranty that they offer.  We are abusing these drills with our sport of ice fishing lol. If my 996 dies I will get the dewalt mud mixer it's made to mix concrete it looks like a traditional gas augers and has different rpm settings and you can put any type augers bit on it even a gasses bit
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 04:03 PM
They give lifetime warranty.
Business stand point:
override/cutting out is protection for drill/ company, hence lifetime warranty? If drill breaks, get it replaced for free. (Is that no extra fees?or flat out free)

Dewalt gives a year... you burn it out, your  buying another.
 I have some dewalts too, first rigid for me.

Reasons I went with the Ridgid over the Milwaukee or Dewalt. In order of importance.
1.) Lifetime Warranty on drill and battery.
2.) Had the 9ah battery vs 2 5ah like the Milwaukee's and Dewalts.
3.) Was cheaper.
4.) Had 1300 in/lbs of torque.
5.) I liked the slightly bigger profile knowing i was going to use it as an auger power head.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 07, 2019, 04:21 PM
Thats what we're looking for.
Price point? Does do the job?
Are you happy with it? Etc..
something wrong don't like ..go get it replaced or return it
 
I like mine so far, if it has bad issues I'll return and try one more. Next one has issues. I myself.. kicking myself in butt for selling my like new gas auger.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: luv2fish2 on Jan 07, 2019, 04:27 PM
Well said 3300. I was thinking of a tactful was of addressing this. Ive had several people (25 or so) message me about the Octane. Both through here, FB and YouTube. 75% have been with the K-Drill, 25% strikemaster/eskimo shaver blade style augers. Once my Nils starts cutting it melts through the ice. Seems like the KDrill folks aren't as smooth. I wish I had someone close by who had the KDrill, id love to see how it ran on my Octane. Ive heard nothing about good things with the Octane/Nils crowd. Not to offend anyone, but think the Octane excels with the Nils.
        he's using an 8" lazer not a kdrill , I my self have an 8" kdrill with 1st gen clam plate and 2604 milwaukee never had one problem just thought it was a good deal for the the rigid  , as for swapping it out ,  I ordered on line the closest one in stock at a store is 70 miles away pia to swap it out!  I've got a bad taste from rigid i'll trade it in for a different brand seems alot of people are having the same problem and you try and get a "good one" by opening boxes sorry i'm not happy  >:( and no he didnt' use on the wrong speed that was first thing he checked
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 07, 2019, 06:24 PM
10 pages?  Who's winning?  Josh I like your setup but have always been a nils fan.  Speaking of...if anyone needs to rehome a Tanaka power head.  PM me!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 06:49 PM
10 pages?  Who's winning?  Josh I like your setup but have always been a nils fan.  Speaking of...if anyone needs to rehome a Tanaka power head.  PM me!

Haha. A healthy back and forth I’d say. Actually been a pretty productive post.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Ice Thunder on Jan 07, 2019, 08:28 PM
My first post here.

I enjoyed this post so much I too bought a Ridgid and plan to use a spare Strikemaster 8" power bit on it.

One question on the drill itself.

When I slide/snap the 9 amp battery on the drill, there is a 1/8"-1/4" of "front to back play"/looseness of the battery on the drill.

The drill seems to function as it should regardless, the battery stays on and I believe I have installed the battery correctly, because it won't pull off without pressing the releases and it's pretty simple to install.

Is this "play/looseness" normal??

On other cordless drills I own the batteries are all on pretty firm with no play.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Ice Thunder on Jan 07, 2019, 08:31 PM
Reasons I went with the Ridgid over the Milwaukee or Dewalt. In order of importance.
1.) Lifetime Warranty on drill and battery.
2.) Had the 9ah battery vs 2 5ah like the Milwaukee's and Dewalts.
3.) Was cheaper.
4.) Had 1300 in/lbs of torque.
5.) I liked the slightly bigger profile knowing i was going to use it as an auger power head.

My reasons EXACTLY. (and YOU led me there, so thanks!)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Jan 07, 2019, 08:54 PM
First the Octane wouldn't  work with a Clam plate and now the Octane lovers say it wont work with the K-drill??? Heres a idea... Maybe the Octane is a diy home owners unit built toward the LSA. My opinion is to buy the best and cry once!!!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Jan 07, 2019, 09:08 PM
Maybe RIDGID stands for...

Ridgid
Isnt a
Drill
Good for
Ice
Drilling
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 07, 2019, 09:19 PM
First the Octane wouldn't  work with a Clam plate and now the Octane lovers say it wont work with the K-drill??? Heres a idea... Maybe the Octane is a diy home owners unit built toward the LSA. My opinion is to buy the best and cry once!!!
What ever!!! You can buy the best and still be disappointed! What a bunch of crap!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Jan 07, 2019, 09:30 PM
What ever!!! You can buy the best and still be disappointed! What a bunch of crap!
Well atleast you have a good warranty...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 09:32 PM
First the Octane wouldn't  work with a Clam plate and now the Octane lovers say it wont work with the K-drill??? Heres a idea... Maybe the Octane is a diy home owners unit built toward the LSA. My opinion is to buy the best and cry once!!!
Don't remember anyone saying the Octane doesn't work with the KDill. The other guy who posted a video got 24 holes back to back with the KDrill. I have mentioned the Nils seems to excel with the Octane, as I feel it would with any other drill. The post I made about people messaging me in regards to the Octane cutting were mostly due to the drill not being set up properly, ex being on setting 2. Its no secret the KDrills chipper blades will get less holes per charge compared to shaver type blades. I have 3 Milwaukee drills, and a ton of Milwaukee bits, bags, boxes etc, and love every one of them. Ive had probably 15 random people try my set up and each's jaw just about hit the ice they were so impressed with it.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Shack man Shoney on Jan 07, 2019, 09:39 PM
I'm not really talking about Milwaukee.... im talking about the Octanes disappointing performance. Its a cheap drill and thats exactly what your buying. If you buy the cheap drill and match it with a Nils it seems to do good. But any drill seems to accel with a nils....
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 07, 2019, 09:41 PM
I'm not really talking about Milwaukee.... im talking about the Octanes disappointing performance. Its a cheap drill and thats exactly what your buying. If you buy the cheap drill and match it with a Nils it seems to do good. But any drill seems to accel with a nils....
Fair Enough!!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Mein4877 on Jan 07, 2019, 10:36 PM
I ran my Octane with the newer clam plate with the clam extension and an 8" lazer. I drilled 30+ holes through 8" of ice. Left the drill and battery outside in the cold. Drill attached to the plate just fine. I did put a spacer so the light didn't turn on. Drill never cut out or got hung up on the bottom. Drill didn't have a noticable wobble while cutting. Auger didn't walk at all. Had plenty of battery left. My only complaint is that it cuts too fast and throws water everywhere. Overall I'm very impressed with the unit.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Jan 07, 2019, 10:46 PM
I ran my Octane with the newer clam plate with the clam extension and an 8" lazer. I drilled 30+ holes through 8" of ice. Left the drill and battery outside in the cold. Drill attached to the plate just fine. I did put a spacer so the light didn't turn on. Drill never cut out or got hung up on the bottom. Drill didn't have a noticable wobble while cutting. Auger didn't walk at all. Had plenty of battery left. My only complaint is that it cuts too fast and throws water everywhere. Overall I'm very impressed with the unit.

Ha ha, awesome, sometimes it's the Indian and not the bow so much. Gotta sorta be able to run it properly too.. Congrats on a matched up rig.. Pretty soon you'll be able to tell it's about to break through and let up on the gas pedal some, might stay dryer..

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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 08, 2019, 02:30 AM
I'm not brand bias. Only interested because I bought the octane. Something seems not right? i used a 8 inch lazer yesterday each hole about a 12 inch ice. I drilled over 20 holes and have 3/4 battery left and left out on ice. Now for some reason right when I started first hole just in beginning it cut out. Never did it again? Have 1/2-3/4 free movement in chuck. Like someone Maybe spinning a auger something is happening and not intended to do that lol
Have dewalt products too. What's price point comparison between the two?
I'll keep using see what happens. Next If I get a chance I'll drill bunch holes in a row

same thing I  started out with chuck rock solid with no movement .now I can turn mine pretty far right or left.run it till it breaks.lifetime warranty anyways.i drilled about 75 holes so far and mine has cutout 5 times.so random too.sometimes first thing in the morning without even cutting a hole,sometimes after 8 holes,other times wont do it  at all.the play in the chuck is not good I don't think.lol

Any chance that the chuck is loosening on the shaft somehow?  There's a screw down at the bottom of the inside of the chuck that locks it to the shaft.  Check if that's loose?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 08, 2019, 02:38 AM
First the Octane wouldn't  work with a Clam plate and now the Octane lovers say it wont work with the K-drill??? Heres a idea... Maybe the Octane is a diy home owners unit built toward the LSA. My opinion is to buy the best and cry once!!!

Maybe RIDGID stands for...

Ridgid
Isnt a
Drill
Good for
Ice
Drilling

I'm not really talking about Milwaukee.... im talking about the Octanes disappointing performance. Its a cheap drill and thats exactly what your buying. If you buy the cheap drill and match it with a Nils it seems to do good. But any drill seems to accel with a nils....

Are you just here to troll?   >:(  :nono:  Because you sure as heck don't seem to be doing much else...  ::)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 08, 2019, 02:43 AM
I'm gonna tell you right now I have no horse in this race.  Strictly doing it for a subject on my YouTube channel and to help out fellow ice fisherman.  I can assure you with 100% certainty that the battery was fully charged and I was in the correct mode.   The first day segment didn't record for some reason.  I do have the audio I can play for you though.  LOL    The same exact thing happened on both days.  24 or 25th hole and it cut out.

What I can tell you is that I noticed the cutting out was happening with some sort of variation.  First I would question why it didn't cut out during the first 25 holes?   Next I would question when it did cut out, why more frequently after it happened the first time.  It's obvious its related to a weaker battery and or heat issue.   

Again, no horse in this race and no inherent bias.   I'll be doing more tests this week.

OK, I think it's clear you're the guy that did the video.  Question - did you download the BlueTooth app for the battery, and connect to it? I saw a blue flash in the video where you were showing the change level, so it makes me think you did.  If so, can you go look at the app and see if you had the battery alerts enabled?  Because if you did, you could go back and look at WHY IT WAS CUTTING OUT ON YOU.  The three options appear to be Deep Discharge, Over Temperature Protection, or Over Load Protection.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 08, 2019, 05:41 AM
I ran my Octane with the newer clam plate with the clam extension and an 8" lazer. I drilled 30+ holes through 8" of ice. Left the drill and battery outside in the cold. Drill attached to the plate just fine. I did put a spacer so the light didn't turn on. Drill never cut out or got hung up on the bottom. Drill didn't have a noticable wobble while cutting. Auger didn't walk at all. Had plenty of battery left. My only complaint is that it cuts too fast and throws water everywhere. Overall I'm very impressed with the unit.
Thanks for the review. Keep us posted with any other findings
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 08, 2019, 06:33 AM
OK, I think it's clear you're the guy that did the video.  Question - did you download the BlueTooth app for the battery, and connect to it? I saw a blue flash in the video where you were showing the change level, so it makes me think you did.  If so, can you go look at the app and see if you had the battery alerts enabled?  Because if you did, you could go back and look at WHY IT WAS CUTTING OUT ON YOU.  The three options appear to be Deep Discharge, Over Temperature Protection, or Over Load Protection.

The blue flash is what happens when you hold the button down for a bit (bluetooth pairing mode).   I had not connected the battery to my phone for this test. However I'm working on another one and I will be sure to connect the phone this time to see what it tells me (if anything). 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 08, 2019, 07:06 AM
I really don't see any reason to do this kind of test. It is wear and tear on any unit and if you use one drill first there is a possibility the blade of the auger is slightly duller for the next drill. If you do this test again start with the Ridgid this time. Just to be fair. When is anyone ever going to go out and drill 20 plus holes in the same area on a regular basis? Don't get me wrong I have drilled over 30 holes before but there was some walking involved between groups of holes which would let any drill have time to cool down. I drilled over 30 holes many times last year using my older GEN5X Ridgid and the 7" Nero. Right at the end of the year I did get the drill to shut off but I think it was either the blades got dual or I was going in at an angle. My Shaft on my Nero extension was bent somewhere along the line. Not sure if it was bent from the start or one of those trips out. I replaced it with the Clam Extension and connected to the Kovac Ice Master both my Nero and Eskimo Silvertip spin true. Not so much when it was hooked to the clam plate which has been returned. And by the way when I say my Auger shut off I mean for a few seconds only.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 08, 2019, 07:20 AM
I think you are really splitting hairs if you think dulling between holes with this chipper blade is going to bias the results.   I’ve probably got 1000 holes on the current blade and have only seen it dull slightly from new.    Also MANY people go out and drill more than 20 holes at a time.  It’s more common than you think.   Not everyone fishes the same way and while it may be a pointless test for you, others have found it useful.   
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 08, 2019, 07:21 AM
I really don't see any reason to do this kind of test. It is wear and tear on any unit and if you use one drill first there is a possibility the blade of the auger is slightly duller for the next drill. If you do this test again start with the Ridgid this time. Just to be fair. When is anyone ever going to go out and drill 20 plus holes in the same area on a regular basis? Don't get me wrong I have drilled over 30 holes before but there was some walking involved between groups of holes which would let any drill have time to cool down. I drilled over 30 holes many times last year using my older GEN5X Ridgid and the 7" Nero. Right at the end of the year I did get the drill to shut off but I think it was either the blades got dual or I was going in at an angle. My Shaft on my Nero extension was bent somewhere along the line. Not sure if it was bent from the start or one of those trips out. I replaced it with the Clam Extension and connected to the Kovac Ice Master both my Nero and Eskimo Silvertip spin true. Not so much when it was hooked to the clam plate which has been returned. And by the way when I say my Auger shut off I mean for a few seconds only.
i agree i like the real world test of how many holes can be done in a days fishing.not drilling consecutive holes until the drill is dead or shutoff.a true test would just go out icefishing and see how many holes you get.probably get more holes that way.you get 25 holes all in a row in these tests but ive drilled 35 in a days fishing and still could drill 30 more if i wanted.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 08, 2019, 07:26 AM
I didn't say it was pointless just not an everyday thing I would do. If people are drilling over 20 holes in one area I would think they need to fish a lot more and worry about drilling less.
I have fished for Perch/Crappie and I usually start out with 4 or 5 holes in a line. Drop the finder down and check them out. If no signs move on. I like catching more than fishing just like the next guy but making Swiss cheese of the lake is ridiculous.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Theshad on Jan 08, 2019, 07:32 AM
I've been drilling holes for 3 or 4 people the last couple times out. 15 tip ups each x 3. 45+ holes in one shot, not counting a few paces in between them.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Jan 08, 2019, 07:39 AM
I think you are really splitting hairs if you think dulling between holes with this chipper blade is going to bias the results.   I’ve probably got 1000 holes on the current blade and have only seen it dull slightly from new.    Also MANY people go out and drill more than 20 holes at a time.  It’s more common than you think.   Not everyone fishes the same way and while it may be a pointless test for you, others have found it useful.

You'll never make everyone happy. Appreciate you taking the time to do a comparison. A torture test is useful in that it will prove which equipment is more robust. Hard use exposes flaws quickly. Most of the critics arent shelling out their money or seeking out equipment to trial on loan and spending their free time to test equipment, post their video and subject themselves to scrutiny of internet experts. People tend to have a bit too much emotional investment into a brand and it shows. All I ask of my equipment is for it to work. I dont necessarily care what brand is on the tool although I have my bias. It comes from years of using tools and sticking with what works. It has likely stopped me from using some really great tools that may have been helpful. Anyhoo keep at it. The videos are helpful to those who are in the market.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 08, 2019, 08:00 AM
I've been drilling holes for 3 or 4 people the last couple times out. 15 tip ups each x 3. 45+ holes in one shot, not counting a few paces in between them.
Yeah, I see where some lucky people need a lot of holes. We in Colorado can have 2 holes per person. One is the extra rod stamp for an additional fee.
I guess some states just have a lot more fish than others and that is why you get 15 poles/Tip ups.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 08, 2019, 08:29 AM
I did the drill different on clam plate. The u bolt was hitting the light button, I mounted the finger that hits the trigger on drill on the same slot as the u bolt, which aloud me to bump the drill back just enough to miss the light button. Hits the trigger great. Might help someone, no spacer needed
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 08, 2019, 08:31 AM
I did the drill different on clam plate. The u bolt was hitting the light button, I mounted the finger that hits the trigger on drill on the same slot as the u bolt, which aloud me to bump the drill back just enough to miss the light button. Hits the trigger great. Might help someone, no spacer needed
yep thats how its done!i could not get anything lined up right with the trigger mech in the other slot like the directions said.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 08, 2019, 08:37 AM
Then I took a square and made shaft straight up/down best I could before tightening bolts.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: tswoboda on Jan 08, 2019, 11:44 AM
DTro, not sure if you take requests but I'd like to see this same test but with the 8" pistol bit.  And the only other difference should be to switch drills out every 10 holes.  Also do it on like a 0 degree weather day.

I mean I'm sure you have nothing better to do than record yourself drilling holes for a bunch of dudes on the internet.   ::)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Jan 08, 2019, 03:45 PM
we haven't gotten any ice yet but I tried the new drill. I have an old 8"jiffy from garage sale, I use for digging post holes and putting in plants in spring.  it did great on that hard old ground.  well, until it twisted the adapter off. lmao.  it was made for 3/8 chuck, so I knew it wouldn't hold the new drill, but had to try.  easy fix to cut it off and mill a new end for the 1/2" chuck.  drilled rite down into the cold wet clay I have here.  im pretty confident it will drill ice like butter. ;D
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 08, 2019, 04:08 PM
All I can say is WOW!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 08, 2019, 04:33 PM
DTro, not sure if you take requests but I'd like to see this same test but with the 8" pistol bit.  And the only other difference should be to switch drills out every 10 holes.  Also do it on like a 0 degree weather day.

I mean I'm sure you have nothing better to do than record yourself drilling holes for a bunch of dudes on the internet.   ::)

I gave away my pistol bit to a lucky winner for Christmas on my Facebook page. Otherwise I probably would.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Jan 08, 2019, 07:34 PM
reading in the manual I noticed a warning.  the batteries mite explode if by an ignition source.  that could be a heater or lantern in a shack real easy!!!!  take note and watch it all.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: slipperybob on Jan 08, 2019, 07:56 PM
reading in the manual I noticed a warning.  the batteries mite explode if by an ignition source.  that could be a heater or lantern in a shack real easy!!!!  take note and watch it all.

Something about lithium can't be in airplanes too.  Like laptops and cell phones and etc.,...   ;D
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 09, 2019, 10:30 AM
we haven't gotten any ice yet but I tried the new drill. I have an old 8"jiffy from garage sale, I use for digging post holes and putting in plants in spring.  it did great on that hard old ground.  well, until it twisted the adapter off. lmao.  it was made for 3/8 chuck, so I knew it wouldn't hold the new drill, but had to try.  easy fix to cut it off and mill a new end for the 1/2" chuck.  drilled rite down into the cold wet clay I have here.  im pretty confident it will drill ice like butter. ;D
That is a great way to test the drill. Thanks for sharing your findings!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 10, 2019, 07:13 AM
I should be wrapping up my Round 2 of testing today. I was hoping to be done yesterday....but the Ridgid won't quit.  LOL

I have learned quite a bit since the first test and I think the results are going to be very interesting, especially compared to the first test. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: RStock521 on Jan 10, 2019, 07:16 AM
I should be wrapping up my Round 2 of testing today. I was hoping to be done yesterday....but the Ridgid won't quit.  LOL

I have learned quite a bit since the first test and I think the results are going to be very interesting, especially compared to the first test.
  Sweet, can't wait to see the results.  Thanks for sharing with all of us!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Ice Thunder on Jan 10, 2019, 10:30 AM
My first post here.

I enjoyed this post so much I too bought a Ridgid and plan to use a spare Strikemaster 8" power bit on it.

One question on the drill itself.

When I slide/snap the 9 amp battery on the drill, there is a 1/8"-1/4" of "front to back play"/looseness of the battery on the drill.

The drill seems to function as it should regardless, the battery stays on and I believe I have installed the battery correctly, because it won't pull off without pressing the releases and it's pretty simple to install.

Is this "play/looseness" normal??

On other cordless drills I own the batteries are all on pretty firm with no play.


ANY feedback, crickets since I posted (with one PM)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Jan 10, 2019, 11:00 AM

ANY feedback, crickets since I posted (with one PM)

I'll check mine when I get home and report back. All my work tools are makita so the ridgid doesnt ride in the van.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: shiveringjoe on Jan 10, 2019, 11:21 AM
My octane has a super tight battery fit, actually makes it difficult to get off when attached to the clam plate.  My old ridgid x4 which got a lot of ice and construction time has a decent amount of wiggle with the battery but works fine.

I'll check mine when I get home and report back. All my work tools are makita so the ridgid doesnt ride in the van.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 10, 2019, 02:45 PM
My first post here.

I enjoyed this post so much I too bought a Ridgid and plan to use a spare Strikemaster 8" power bit on it.

One question on the drill itself.

When I slide/snap the 9 amp battery on the drill, there is a 1/8"-1/4" of "front to back play"/looseness of the battery on the drill.

The drill seems to function as it should regardless, the battery stays on and I believe I have installed the battery correctly, because it won't pull off without pressing the releases and it's pretty simple to install.

Is this "play/looseness" normal??

On other cordless drills I own the batteries are all on pretty firm with no play.
yes you can force it to move about 1/4". it isn't moving freely.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: TNT5859 on Jan 10, 2019, 03:26 PM
Had a chance to try out the Ridgid Octane today! It cut like a beast.

One concearn I had was I am able to twist the auger forward  and reverse  a little bit. Is this normal?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 10, 2019, 03:54 PM
Had a chance to try out the Ridgid Octane today! It cut like a beast.

One concearn I had was I am able to twist the auger forward  and reverse  a little bit. Is this normal?
mine wasn't like that when I first put it together but after cutting 75 holes it does.might be the drill breaking in?idk it cuts fast!! use the clam plate?that wobble isn't a concern when cutting ice now?cuts so fast I don't even notice a wobble anymore..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 10, 2019, 03:55 PM
Used mine again today. No cut out. Drilled 4 holes over 12 inch ice. Still full battery 🤓
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: TNT5859 on Jan 10, 2019, 04:02 PM
mine wasn't like that when I first put it together but after cutting 75 holes it does.might be the drill breaking in?idk it cuts fast!! use the clam plate?that wobble isn't a concern when cutting ice now?cuts so fast I don't even notice a wobble anymore..


I don't feel hardly any wobble at all! . It doesn't walk either. All I can say is WOW. This thing is fast!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 10, 2019, 04:09 PM

I don't feel hardly any wobble at all! . It doesn't walk either. All I can say is WOW. This thing is fast!
nice.that clam wobble thread had me worried for sure, but I stuck with it till I cut some ice holes just to see what was going to happen.what happened was quick effortless drilling without worrying about a tweaked wrist.lol
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Jan 10, 2019, 04:17 PM

ANY feedback, crickets since I posted (with one PM)

Mine has about 3/16 play. Works fine at any position so I'm not going to worry about it.

It also has a little play in the chuck. Has only drilled a handful of holes so far. Our ice is very thin right now. Last year we had 12" at this time.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: TNT5859 on Jan 10, 2019, 04:25 PM
nice.that clam wobble thread had me worried for sure, but I stuck with it till I cut some ice holes just to see what was going to happen.what happened was quick effortless drilling without worrying about a tweaked wrist.lol

Same here. I think I even started that thread!! I found out today, nothing to be worried about!!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 10, 2019, 04:28 PM
Same here. I think I even started that thread!! I found out today, nothing to be worried about!!
yep you started that thread.had me worried, think we bought the same setup around the same time..lol
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: atcman42 on Jan 10, 2019, 06:04 PM
got the octane and a new nils 8".  first time out with it, drilled 12 holes in a line 10" of ice, no plate. put the drill in my sled and it sat in the cold for 6 hours. battery was full when I got to my truck. no issues to report.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Cjnstorm on Jan 10, 2019, 06:15 PM
The battery on mine does slide back and forth a little bit, i saw a YouTube video of one guy using his octane and the battery kept falling off while drilling into ice, any one have that problem
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 10, 2019, 07:25 PM
Well, I've spent most of the week doing a rematch between the Ridgid and the DeWalt.  The Ridgid showed up to battle this time. :) 
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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Ice Thunder on Jan 10, 2019, 07:43 PM
Awesome test!!

And thanks for the feedback on the battery looseness/play.  ;)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: TNT5859 on Jan 10, 2019, 07:54 PM
yep you started that thread.had me worried, think we bought the same setup around the same time..lol

I think we did. First outing and I couldn't be happier. It took a little getting used to and I drilled about 15 holes through about 6 inches of ice.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 10, 2019, 08:14 PM
Awesome test!!

And thanks for the feedback on the battery looseness/play.  ;)

Thanks for noticing.  :)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: TNT5859 on Jan 10, 2019, 08:25 PM
Great job on the comparison!!!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 11, 2019, 06:10 AM
Thanks for the Video DTro. Very well done. So the Octane did do 50% more which is higher than I expected.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 11, 2019, 07:17 AM
Thanks, Actually about 35% more holes on the Ridgid.   The battery is about 45% bigger so it's about what I expected.


I guess the best thing to take away from the video is this:

Both good drills that will work great and based on 15" of ice and using the 8" KDrill

690" of ice with the Ridgid and 9ah battery
450" of ice with the DeWalt and 5ah battery
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Drift Dodger on Jan 11, 2019, 09:45 AM
Excellent on-ice review DTro!

Correction on the math ... 9Ah is 80% greater than 5Ah (9Ah/5Ah x 100% = 180%).
 
The DeWalt cut more inches of ice per (rated) Ah capacity than the Ridgid. However what it comes down to for most is the overall 'bang-for-the-buck' which of course includes several factors, the most significant to any particular person may or may not be the initial up-front cost. I purchased the DeWalt product (same as depicted in the video) because I was already utilizing the DeWalt 20V platform (which I'm happy with) and the deal at the time l was just too good to pass up. We rarely get great deals up here north of the border.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 11, 2019, 10:24 AM
Good review DRto.

Not knocking the KDrill, but have to say it still surprises me how many more holes I can drill with the Nils. I did 136 holes, 1380 inches, 115 ft of ice with the Ridgid. Them chipper blades must really grab.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: hardwater diehard on Jan 11, 2019, 12:21 PM
Cue the wardrobe montage music please ...great video DTro..real world anticipated situations ...thank you for your time and effort ..I like that you were using the Kdrill the way it is recommended/intended to be used ...too many videos in which the Kdrill is improperly used ...thus not giving a true head to head auger drill unit comparison . Wrote off the Ridgid Octane based on the last video... which had cut out issues ...now it seems to be a non issue ..do you think it may be because your utilizing the blue tooth function by chance ...just a thought .Once again you have helped many of Ice Shanty members w/o even knowing it . :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Jan 11, 2019, 01:48 PM
another great video DTro!  thanks
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 11, 2019, 06:08 PM
That was good video. Well done!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Jan 11, 2019, 09:56 PM
Thanks guys, I would have really liked to do the flexvolt 9ah battery on the DeWalt, but it is what it is.  I think at some point we are splitting hairs about a few seconds or a few more holes. 

The funny thing is that in a year or two all this will be obsolete and we will be debating the latest and greatest.  We the consumers are winners with all these choices. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 12, 2019, 08:18 AM
Drilled lots holes yesterday. I had a lot of cut out, because of so much ice building on my auger. Drill few holes set it down, drill few more, over the course of hours on ice, the ice kept building up on the auger. Had to take it in shanty the thaw the head off lol then drill wouldn't cut out. To me its little annoying, but not enough to take it back. Because my other augers would ice up too.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 12, 2019, 08:34 AM
Drilled lots holes yesterday. I had a lot of cut out, because of so much ice building on my auger. Drill few holes set it down, drill few more, over the course of hours on ice, the ice kept building up on the auger. Had to take it in shanty the thaw the head off lol then drill wouldn't cut out. To me its little annoying, but not enough to take it back. Because my other augers would ice up too.
Yeah icing up is not good even for a Gas auger. Had that problem and it wouldn't cut at all just walk all over the place until I knock off the ice.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 12, 2019, 08:52 AM
Drilled lots holes yesterday. I had a lot of cut out, because of so much ice building on my auger. Drill few holes set it down, drill few more, over the course of hours on ice, the ice kept building up on the auger. Had to take it in shanty the thaw the head off lol then drill wouldn't cut out. To me its little annoying, but not enough to take it back. Because my other augers would ice up too.
after you get done drilling run the drill/auger in the air to fling water off the blades.ice cant form with no water on the blades.it works pretty good and i have to do that with my gas augers too.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 12, 2019, 08:57 AM
after you get done drilling run the drill/auger in the air to fling water off the blades.ice cant form with no water on the blades.it works pretty good and i have to do that with my gas augers too.

(https://i.postimg.cc/75Vcp1k1/thumbs-up.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/75Vcp1k1)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 12, 2019, 11:10 AM
Just a quick update from my morning. Was -10F, drilled 10 holes through 16” of ice in 20 minutes or so. No problem with the cold temps. Didn’t baby the battery at all. Was on my auger, in my jet sled all morning. Chewed through the 16” of ice without a problem!! Still haven’t found anything negative to say about this drill on my end!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Jan 12, 2019, 12:16 PM
Got a chance to get out and drill with what is my second octane. I had returned my first one because it would cut out on every hole and wouldnt drill again until I pulled the battery. This drill did not have those same issues. It did cut out once when the auger hung up on the bottom but releasing the trigger and squeezing it again did the trick. No battery removal required. It was a hard hang up as well. I was also feathering it trying to go slow so that probably didnt help. Anyway I am happy with #2 so far. Running it on a clam plate with a 7" lazer.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 13, 2019, 03:45 PM
For anyone that cares, here's a link to my new thread detailing my custom drill adapter:

My ~$10 Adjustable Electric Drill Auger Adapter (https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=365217.0)



Well, I've spent most of the week doing a rematch between the Ridgid and the DeWalt.  The Ridgid showed up to battle this time. :) 
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Great follow-up review DTro!!!  :thumbsup:  That definitely more closely resembles real-world usage IMO.  Thanks for going the extra mile and dedicating yourself for 4 days to get this done!

My drill is going strong!  After cutting over 30 holes in 7-8" of ice yesterday, I now have about 75 holes under my belt (20 in 5", the remainder in 7-8"), and my drill says it has 70% capacity remaining.  @) Impressive.  I actually felt sorry for the guy that showed up yesterday with an old 8" Jiffy, and took ~1:30 to cut holes...  (Yeah, really.  A minute and 30 seconds.  After his 3rd of 6 holes, we started timing him.  :'()
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 13, 2019, 04:43 PM
Someone was next to me other day. Gas auger. Started that up. I said wth hell is that. Triple turbo charged auger...guy said it's a old jiffy. lol I said that sob is freaking loudest thing I ever heard. Then after they left, we limited out on crappie lol
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Jan 13, 2019, 07:08 PM
Cut 30 or so holes in 6-8" of ice today. Battery was 70% when I got inside. I do notice the chuck has a fair amt of play in it.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 13, 2019, 07:40 PM

I actually felt sorry for the guy that showed up yesterday with an old 8" Jiffy, and took ~1:30 to cut holes...  (Yeah, really.  A minute and 30 seconds.  After his 3rd of 6 holes, we started timing him.  :'()

I got a clip of the same thing. My buddy was drilling, I came into the frame, kicked out some snow, drilled with my octane, cleared the hole before he finished his.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: kayl on Jan 13, 2019, 07:54 PM
Cut 30 or so holes in 6-8" of ice today. Battery was 70% when I got inside. I do notice the chuck has a fair amt of play in it.

One of the tool review channels on YouTube had a chuck issue. If yours keeps getting loose it may have the same thing. Their replacement was fine.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: Cjnstorm on Jan 13, 2019, 08:49 PM
So I made myself a home made ice master auger adapter, I thought about just buying one but after what my new Octane did to my aluminum adapter seen in the picture, I wasn't sure if it was steel or aluminum, so I purchased a stainless steel one, pic 2 from Vendetta Precision EBAY. went to home depot and purchased a IPS Pipe Escutcheon 1 inch, Did have to take my Dremell and widen the hole a little to spin freely , a couple eye bolts and a piece of paracord .I did have to remove the wing nut and use a stronger grade bolt , one that wont hit the eyebolts as it spins.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4HXcpKL3/49617522-795162227484572-2631874380379979776-n.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4HXcpKL3)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 13, 2019, 09:32 PM
Cut 30 or so holes in 6-8" of ice today. Battery was 70% when I got inside. I do notice the chuck has a fair amt of play in it.

Mine has developed a little bit of rotational play.  It's not bad, nothing that worries me (yet anyway).  I would expect that once the gears start wearing in a little bit, there is going to be a bit of backlash.  If it gets any worse, I'll report back.  I'm not worried one bit, have 90 days to exchange, and the LSA worst case.

One of the tool review channels on YouTube had a chuck issue. If yours keeps getting loose it may have the same thing. Their replacement was fine.

Interesting.  Link to video?

I got a clip of the same thing. My buddy was drilling, I came into the frame, kicked out some snow, drilled with my octane, cleared the hole before he finished his.

LOL! ;D
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 13, 2019, 09:38 PM
So I made myself a home made ice master auger adapter, I thought about just buying one but after what my new Octane did to my aluminum adapter seen in the picture, I wasn't sure if it was steel or aluminum, so I purchased a stainless steel one, pic 2 from Vendetta Precision EBAY. went to home depot and purchased a IPS Pipe Escutcheon 1 inch, Did have to take my Dremell and widen the hole a little to spin freely , a couple eye bolts and a piece of paracord .I did have to remove the wing nut and use a stronger grade bolt , one that wont hit the eyebolts as it spins.
(https://i.postimg.cc/4HXcpKL3/49617522-795162227484572-2631874380379979776-n.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4HXcpKL3)

Boy, I don't know...  :unsure:  I'm usually all about paracord, but if that piece somehow gets caught while drilling, it would probably rip off the T-handle, and could become a whirling rope of dismemberment with the eye bolts attached on each end.  :o  :wacko:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Jan 14, 2019, 03:56 AM
One of the tool review channels on YouTube had a chuck issue. If yours keeps getting loose it may have the same thing. Their replacement was fine.

Noted - thanks
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Jan 14, 2019, 07:58 AM

Boy, I don't know...  :unsure:  I'm usually all about paracord, but if that piece somehow gets caught while drilling, it would probably rip off the T-handle, and could become a whirling rope of dismemberment with the eye bolts attached on each end.  :o  :wacko:
thinking the same.
bungee is used on the icemaster 2. it's easy to get and won't cut your fingers off. it keeps pressure on the spinning disc. i would drill holes (already made) for the bungee and tie a knot under the holes to keep the bungee from pulling out. ditch the bolts and paracord.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 20, 2019, 11:29 AM
So I'm about a month into using my Ridgid Octane Hammer drill, and so far I'm very pleased with it. In this video I cut 10 holes through 18" of ice, and talk about my other cutting totals I've had this season. If your looking to get into a cordless drill for an auger power head, check out this video.

If interested, click on the link:

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: zubie on Jan 20, 2019, 12:30 PM
Thank you for another great video Pike Fisherman! I have really been pleased with my Ridgid Octane with 9.0 battery and Mora 7 auger so far this season as well. I have yet to experience the drill cutting out and have drilled 40+ holes in 12 inches of ice in one outing. I ended up buying another 9.0 battery on sale but can’t decide if I should keep it as I have 2 new 4.0 batteries as well...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: zubie on Jan 20, 2019, 12:36 PM
I will add that I was set on buying the Milwaukee fuel 1200lb hammer drill as an upgrade from my 700lb brushless Hitachi but decided on the Octane due to the great sale and don’t regret my purchase. If I already owned other Milwaukee tools I would have went that route because overall I think Milwaukee does offer nicer power tools, but I am not a carpenter so I was buying this drill and battery for my auger... didn’t take long for me to buy a Ridgid 1/2 impact now which will be nice to bring with when towing the camper
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Jan 20, 2019, 03:33 PM
I popped about 40 holes with mine on Sat and it ended up dying a few hours later when I tried one last hole.  I think the -15 wind chill may have had a little to do with it, lol.

I do notice that when I hesitate on the trigger it will start for a second, then cut out.  Wondering if my trigget may be bad or something. When it stops I have to wait like 2 seconds before it will come back on....I have the app but cant find where the error reports go? 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 20, 2019, 04:35 PM
I popped about 40 holes with mine on Sat and it ended up dying a few hours later when I tried one last hole.  I think the -15 wind chill may have had a little to do with it, lol.

I do notice that when I hesitate on the trigger it will start for a second, then cut out.  Wondering if my trigget may be bad or something. When it stops I have to wait like 2 seconds before it will come back on....I have the app but cant find where the error reports go?
this is what mine does with or without the clam plate too. that's the only glitch I have with mine..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: TNT5859 on Jan 20, 2019, 04:42 PM
this is what mine does with or without the clam plate too. that's the only glitch I have with mine..


Same with mine.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: .Pan Handler on Jan 20, 2019, 04:55 PM
I posted about that same hesitation problem with mine also. I have to let off the trigger wait a second then push again.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Jan 20, 2019, 05:35 PM
Its not too bad to deal with, but it makes no sense that it's happening. Maybe Ridgid has some answers. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: CO_Dinky on Jan 27, 2019, 12:06 AM
On my first hole one trip out recently, I started having the same issue, or so I thought.  Then I noticed that somehow, my drill was in the wrong gear.  :-\  Switched back and no problemo from then on.  Kids must have been messing with the drill when I was charging the battery.  ::)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: FishGut on Jan 27, 2019, 08:33 AM
On the app click on the little menu icon on the top left corner of the start page.  (Three horizontal lines)

Once you open that up you'll see an alert history.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Jan 27, 2019, 08:36 AM
On the app click on the little menu icon on the top left corner of the start page.  (Three horizontal lines)

Once you open that up you'll see an alert history.
mine doesn't show any problems in the alert history when it fails to start drilling.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: FishGut on Jan 27, 2019, 09:06 AM
You'll have to set which notifications you get. Also in the same menu area, and have the app open on your phone while using the drill. Just minimize it.




Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. INITIAL ON ICE REVIEW. BATTERY UPDATE
Post by: defish on Jan 27, 2019, 09:31 AM
I popped about 40 holes with mine on Sat and it ended up dying a few hours later when I tried one last hole.  I think the -15 wind chill may have had a little to do with it, lol.

I do notice that when I hesitate on the trigger it will start for a second, then cut out.  Wondering if my trigget may be bad or something. When it stops I have to wait like 2 seconds before it will come back on....I have the app but cant find where the error reports go?

This sounds like an overload protection feature and NOT a glitch. 

Electronics don't like fast on/off/on cycles.  Some components retain a momentary charge and a second quick switch to ON adds normal voltage on top of the retained voltage which is like jolting them with double voltage.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: VTMatt on Jan 27, 2019, 05:01 PM
Yeah, I figured theres a reason for it. Especially with the battery technology.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Jan 27, 2019, 11:27 PM
cut at least 50 8 inch holes the last 2 days with a new lazer and auxiliary handle with 3 bars left on the battery that's been left out in my vehicle for days. i am super glad i returned the wobbly clam plate! this set up drills so fast it throws water up to my knees and makes you want to kill it before it gets into the water. it reminds me of the icegator big time!
there is absolutely zero hang up issues getting thru the ice because it turns the auger way to fast to have any issue like that. i kept checking to make sure it was in speed 1 because of how fast it was cutting ice and throwing it and water.
puts my gen5x 780 inch pound ridgid to shame. if they made a 10 inch auger that would fit it, it would cut fast too.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 27, 2019, 11:37 PM
cut at least 50 8 inch holes the last 2 days with a new lazer and auxiliary handle with 3 bars left on the battery that's been left out in my vehicle for days. i am super glad i returned the wobbly clam plate! this set up drills so fast it throws water up to my knees and makes you want to kill it before it gets into the water. it reminds me of the icegator big time!
there is absolutely zero hang up issues getting thru the ice because it turns the auger way to fast to have any issue lie that. i kept checking to make sure it was in speed 1 because of how fast it was cutting ice and throwing it and water.
puts my gen5x 780 inch pound ridgid to shame. if they made a 10 inch auger that would fit it, it would cut fast too.

You noticed how fast it cut??  so did the group of fishermen next to me with a ryobI one plus drill.. the ryobi cooked threw two batteris in about 15 to 25 holes.. I think they were 4 amp?? Any how I think they were glad when there last battery died I asked them if they wanted me to drill them some holes ??  Only did cause I did not want to wreck my 6 inch nils blades ya know green horns on augers.. might have to get another laser auger cause tell you one think nills is to expensive on the up keep..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: littlepineguy on Jan 28, 2019, 09:33 AM
Has anyone with the Octane tried it with a 10" lazer bit? Just bought a wheelhouse and like the larger hole for that application, but wondering if I have to dust off the old SM Electra.  Would be nice just packing the Ridgid for cranking the wheels and drilling the holes, but understand there is a limit to what these things can/should do.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DTro on Jan 28, 2019, 09:50 AM
I am also interested in any 10" options.  Even if it only means drilling 5-6 holes. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: gamefisher on Jan 28, 2019, 09:55 AM
Used my ridgid octane / fin bore set up for first time since early ice yesterday just to see what it would do now that we are up to 2' of ice in Maine.  Only drilled a few holes to jig out of.  Trigger seemed very finicky, one hole bailed right through no problem, another one would quit and then when you let off trigger and start again would go.  Almost seems like there is a difference to when you have auger pressed against ice vs. hovering slightly above.  Weird.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 28, 2019, 03:19 PM
Plastic sucks and is good for toys...not ice drills...glad I dont own one!

(https://i.postimg.cc/JthKSKs7/51112661-10161389986405204-3297252096855769088-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JthKSKs7)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: kayl on Jan 28, 2019, 03:23 PM
Plastic sucks and is good for toys...not ice drills...glad I dont own one!

(https://i.postimg.cc/JthKSKs7/51112661-10161389986405204-3297252096855769088-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JthKSKs7)

I'm thinking there's more to the story there (IE misuse) than suggested.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: Northern_MN Outdoorsan on Jan 28, 2019, 03:33 PM
2.5 seasons in using my KDrill with well over 1000+ holes drilled with it and not one time have I ever come close to this happening. I agree with Kayl. There is definitely much more to the story than we've been told.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 28, 2019, 03:38 PM
I guess the plus side is the flights never worked well anyways!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: VTMatt on Jan 28, 2019, 03:39 PM
Plastic sucks and is good for toys...not ice drills...glad I dont own one!

(https://i.postimg.cc/JthKSKs7/51112661-10161389986405204-3297252096855769088-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JthKSKs7)

Looks like someone left that in a hole and it froze back solid
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 28, 2019, 03:40 PM
Plastic sucks and is good for toys...not ice drills...glad I dont own one!

(https://i.postimg.cc/JthKSKs7/51112661-10161389986405204-3297252096855769088-o.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JthKSKs7)
THis looks like there was a lot of ice built up on the auger and then it was dropped a few times.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: NateD on Jan 28, 2019, 03:44 PM
Plastic sucks and is good for toys...not ice drills...glad I dont own one!


How much does nils pay you every time you bash k drill? 30 bucks in flights and he's back in business. That thing must have been dragged behind a sled for miles, I was bashing ice off of mine with a dipper last week.  4 years throwing mine around haven't even broke one flight, my nils wouldn't cut after half a season. Glad I own one!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 28, 2019, 03:49 PM
Nate you know better to hit on a troll.  I thought the kdrill pic was funny and knew a bunch if loyal kdrill owners would blindly defend the brand. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: NateD on Jan 28, 2019, 03:51 PM
Nate you know better to hit on a troll.

I do, but you hit me where it hurts and you know it lol
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 28, 2019, 03:53 PM
I do, but you hit me where it hurts and you know it lol

I sell big ticket software for a living so I know the emotional triggers.  No one wants to admit they bought a brick when they wanted a ball.  This is no different again I thought the pic was funny.  Who knows what happened.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: luv2fish2 on Jan 28, 2019, 03:54 PM
first i've heard of this and they've been out awhile sounds like operator error , thousands of them beeing used
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: NateD on Jan 28, 2019, 04:01 PM
I sell big ticket software for a living so I know the emotional triggers.  No one wants to admit they bought a brick when they wanted a ball.  This is no different again I thought the pic was funny.  Who knows what happened.

I’m not blindly defending though I actually do like it whether you can believe that or not, very little of my fishing equipment lasts for seasons without something going wrong or needing fixing. I busted my nils in half a season, and used to need a new set of mora blades every year. I bought a ball and so far it is still bouncing.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 28, 2019, 05:07 PM
I've used the kdrill and liked it.  Just not enough to own one. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: Iceicemike on Jan 28, 2019, 05:13 PM
My drill been working great! Attached it to a 12 inch auger and zipped right thru....lol j/k
There some moments of hesitation but happy with it
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: missoulafish on Jan 28, 2019, 06:58 PM
Should cut down the weight a bit, prob get 20 more holes per battery now...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 28, 2019, 09:06 PM
Quick question for those having shut down issues with their drills / batteries could useing a non blue tooth octane battery effect preformance ?? I know there a few electric circuits in those new blue tooth octane batteries has any one tried with say a standard 4 or 6 amp battery??  to see if it still shut off??  I have not run in to this problem yet with mine and I am looking to get more batteries and was wondering if I should go new 9 amp or older 6 amp.. any how  was just wondering if switchung batteries worked to solve problem??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Jan 29, 2019, 09:42 AM
anyone having issues, just swap it out. i highly doubt anyone bench tests tools for qc. it's a hassle free 90 day return/exchange policy at hd.

the 6 amp is the same as the 9 amp being it is the octane battery. the 6 amp is 140$. two 9 amps are 200$. both deals have limited 3 year warranty. the lifetime warranty is important to me. i would buy another 9 amp battery and charger and get another free tool to keep the lsa. they never made an older style 6 amp, only 4 amp and smaller.

6 amp octane
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Bluetooth-6-0-Ah-High-Capacity-Battery-AC8400806/304350782

two 9 amp's
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Bluetooth-9-0-Ah-High-Capacity-Battery-2-Pack-AC800/304829433

9 amp and charger kit
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-9-0-Ah-Lithium-Ion-Battery-and-Charger-Kit-AC801/304740781

this says you loose 65% plus power using non octane batteries. kind of like putting regular fuel in a race car. that would make it a 455 inch pound drill with out octane batteries.
about the octane tech:
The OCTANE Brushless 18-Volt Hammer Drill/Driver (Tool Only) features High Performance Brushless Motors and Advanced Electronics that provide Best-in-Class Power and Intelligence. While providing increased performance with all RIDGID 18-Volt batteries, OCTANE tools provide maximum performance when paired with OCTANE batteries (not included). Paired with an OCTANE battery (not included), this tool gives an Industry-Leading 1,300 in./lbs. of Torque and Over 65% More Power when needed for High Demand Applications. This means, under heavy loads, the tool talks to the battery to determine when to draw maximum power to the motor, allowing the tool to increase performance and finish the task.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DTro on Jan 29, 2019, 10:24 AM
There is a guy commenting on one of my videos that he is having cutout issues and says they are telling him it's user error and having a hard time with HD/Ridgid.  Just thought i'd add it for the discussion here.

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What is the model number on the Ridgid hammer drill you are using?  The overload switch cuts off power to my brand new Ridgid hammer drill when I start drilling at low speeds.  Just not right.  I am currently fighting Home Depot and Ridgid over this design flaw.  They are calling it a user issue when I have never had an issue with any DeWalt, Milwaukee, or Makita drill I've used.
 

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DTroFishOn
16 hours ago
Model #R8611506B I used mine with the KDrill on Sat.  15 holes though 18" of ice.  No issues.

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Gui Jo
13 hours ago
@DTroFishOn Thank you.   I had model R86116.  Must be a newer model with faulty circuit board or switch from production.  5 of 6 at the store did the same thing.  Only 1 floor model worked properly... Very upset with Ridgid right now.  They are telling me that it is a user issue.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 29, 2019, 10:55 AM
anyone having issues, just swap it out. i highly doubt anyone bench tests tools for qc. it's a hassle free 90 day return/exchange policy at hd.

the 6 amp is the same as the 9 amp being it is the octane battery. the 6 amp is 140$. two 9 amps are 200$. both deals have limited 3 year warranty. the lifetime warranty is important to me. i would buy another 9 amp battery and charger and get another free tool to keep the lsa. they never made an older style 6 amp, only 4 amp and smaller.

6 amp octane
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Bluetooth-6-0-Ah-High-Capacity-Battery-AC8400806/304350782

two 9 amp's
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Bluetooth-9-0-Ah-High-Capacity-Battery-2-Pack-AC800/304829433

9 amp and charger kit
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-9-0-Ah-Lithium-Ion-Battery-and-Charger-Kit-AC801/304740781

this says you loose 65% plus power using non octane batteries. kind of like putting regular fuel in a race car. that would make it a 455 inch pound drill with out octane batteries.
about the octane tech:
The OCTANE Brushless 18-Volt Hammer Drill/Driver (Tool Only) features High Performance Brushless Motors and Advanced Electronics that provide Best-in-Class Power and Intelligence. While providing increased performance with all RIDGID 18-Volt batteries, OCTANE tools provide maximum performance when paired with OCTANE batteries (not included). Paired with an OCTANE battery (not included), this tool gives an Industry-Leading 1,300 in./lbs. of Torque and Over 65% More Power when needed for High Demand Applications. This means, under heavy loads, the tool talks to the battery to determine when to draw maximum power to the motor, allowing the tool to increase performance and finish the task.


So ware does it say it loses 65%power with out useing octane batteries?? I curious ware it says that??  If you know ohms law or any electrical princeaples you relize there no way to do as you said.. if you do know your electrial think about it long enough  you will relize it.. so if it's 18 volt 1.5 amp versus 18 volt 9 amp all that will happen is the battery will be used faster on the 1.5 amp versus the 9 amp.. please let me know ware it say the drill loses 65 percent power with non octane batteries??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Jan 29, 2019, 12:04 PM
Product Overview
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Tool-Only-R8611506B/304304102


So ware does it say it loses 65%power with out useing octane batteries?? I curious ware it says that??  If you know ohms law or any electrical princeaples you relize there no way to do as you said.. if you do know your electrial think about it long enough  you will relize it.. so if it's 18 volt 1.5 amp versus 18 volt 9 amp all that will happen is the battery will be used faster on the 1.5 amp versus the 9 amp.. please let me know ware it say the drill loses 65 percent power with non octane batteries??

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lefty2053 on Jan 29, 2019, 12:08 PM
Over 65% more power in high demand applications when paired with an OCTANE battery
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Jan 29, 2019, 12:27 PM
also, you would need to know what the motor amp rating is before you could calculate that assumption. we know the motor is rated 18 vdc, but we do not know what their rated amps are for it. lets take a guess that it is a 6 amp rated motor and if you use a 10 amp battery it still uses up 6 amps depending on the load. now if you use a 4 amp, it will use 4 amps and still function, but not at peek/rated performance. these values are rated per hour by the way. that's why they are rated X amp hours. as you seem to know more amp hours equals longer run times also. voltage carries amperage. that's why the 18 vdc batteries will function on it.

ridgids own statement says "paired with the octane battery (tells me it's a 6 amp motor because that is the smallest octane battery) that is will provide 65% plus more power". they also are saying compared to their older tech batteries in their own statements. so if you don't use octane batteries, this means it can not provide that 65% more power based on ridgids own statements.


So ware does it say it loses 65%power with out useing octane batteries?? I curious ware it says that??  If you know ohms law or any electrical princeaples you relize there no way to do as you said.. if you do know your electrial think about it long enough  you will relize it.. so if it's 18 volt 1.5 amp versus 18 volt 9 amp all that will happen is the battery will be used faster on the 1.5 amp versus the 9 amp.. please let me know ware it say the drill loses 65 percent power with non octane batteries??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 29, 2019, 12:48 PM
That 65%more power then standard battery is what your referring too.??  I am sure it is..


Also they are 100% compatible with all 18 volt rigid batteries.. just got to read futter down on that link you gave 3300..

If you think about it long enough a 3 amp battery is 65% less then a 9 amp battery is what there referring to.. 

Buy the way the guys haveing the drill shut off is more then likely caused the intelligent technology In the blue tooth version  probably sensing too much drain etc and shuts battery off.. this is why I was wondering if any one compared the older battery too new for those have the shut off issues ??  Cause it might be a overly sensitive circuit on the battery causeing the problem?? If that's the case I would avoI'd buying blue tooth smart batteries for augerkng.. if that's the case?? only thing you can do is try to narrow down the problem..   by process of  elimination... if it the smart battery or drill??  Just by useing a older battery with out smart technology with the newer drill .. that simple to narrow down the problem componet..

so if some one tries the older battey on a octane hammer drill with a k drill let me know if you have this problenm with the newer octane battery and if problem went away when you used older non smart technology 18volt batteries??  I don't see a problem doing this cause the link 3300 just gave says it 100%,compatible with all 18 volt ridgid batteries..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 29, 2019, 04:19 PM
cut at least 50 8 inch holes the last 2 days with a new lazer and auxiliary handle with 3 bars left on the battery that's been left out in my vehicle for days. i am super glad i returned the wobbly clam plate! this set up drills so fast it throws water up to my knees and makes you want to kill it before it gets into the water. it reminds me of the icegator big time!
there is absolutely zero hang up issues getting thru the ice because it turns the auger way to fast to have any issue like that. i kept checking to make sure it was in speed 1 because of how fast it was cutting ice and throwing it and water.
puts my gen5x 780 inch pound ridgid to shame. if they made a 10 inch auger that would fit it, it would cut fast too.
Great review of your experience 3300. Just burried mine in 25" of ice Sunday. I filmed a quick video and it will be up tomorrow.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 29, 2019, 04:21 PM
Has anyone with the Octane tried it with a 10" lazer bit? Just bought a wheelhouse and like the larger hole for that application, but wondering if I have to dust off the old SM Electra.  Would be nice just packing the Ridgid for cranking the wheels and drilling the holes, but understand there is a limit to what these things can/should do.
Didnt know Lazer made a 10". Is it a hand auger, or their gas powerhead auger. Last I knew Nils only had a 10' hand auger.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 29, 2019, 04:22 PM
Used my ridgid octane / fin bore set up for first time since early ice yesterday just to see what it would do now that we are up to 2' of ice in Maine.  Only drilled a few holes to jig out of.  Trigger seemed very finicky, one hole bailed right through no problem, another one would quit and then when you let off trigger and start again would go.  Almost seems like there is a difference to when you have auger pressed against ice vs. hovering slightly above.  Weird.
Interesting. I have noticed sometimes if I stop mid cut, that it is a little more sluggish.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: MT204 on Jan 29, 2019, 06:55 PM
we know the motor is rated 18 vdc, but we do not know what their rated amps are for it.
I posted earlier on this, they are really not 18 VDC motors.
They are brushless motors which are a whole different animal.
To the best of my knowledge all cordless power tool lithium-ion batteries are in fact between 19.5 and 21.5 VDC (can depend on fully charged or at rest/dead).
18 volt(ish) batteries went by the way side with nicad and NiMH batteries.
That's one of the reasons why if you use a Ridgid nicad (18v ish) battery in a drill and then use a lithium-ion (20 v ish) battery in the same drill you will have more power at the chuck. Milwaukee marketed their cordless that way when the started the switch to lith-ion batteries way back.
Most company's Ridgid, Milwaukee and a few others still call their batteries 18 v to not confuse people. DeWalt markets theirs as 20v max because after all they have higher voltage batteries than everyone else, right? Wrong.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 29, 2019, 07:53 PM
Didnt know Lazer made a 10". Is it a hand auger, or their gas powerhead auger. Last I knew Nils only had a 10' hand auger.

Probably wondering on the 10 inch power head bit it sounds like is my guess ??  They do need a adaptor to use I gor so much going on have not had a chance to find one yet and play with it..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: littlepineguy on Jan 30, 2019, 08:35 AM
Yes, it is a 10" bit from a Lazer Pro powerhead. I'll grab an adapter this week and give it a try this weekend; It certainly won't be the lightest setup with the rather beefy flighting, but that's not an issue when I'm only moving 12' for 7 holes! I'll report back...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25" OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 30, 2019, 04:06 PM


Just a quick video of the Octane ripping through 25" of ice.
 
Link to the footage:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 30, 2019, 05:20 PM
Should cut down the weight a bit, prob get 20 more holes per battery now...


Hahahha!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 30, 2019, 05:22 PM
Nice video pike fishermen!!  I am wondering if the guys with k-drills cut ice that easily and fast as your nils?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 7lazy77 on Jan 30, 2019, 05:44 PM
.....and I am wondering if the guys with a Nils think it is so much better to get a hole punched & save a whole .5 seconds?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: FISHFORPIKE on Jan 30, 2019, 05:46 PM
.....and I am wondering if the guys with a Nils think it is so much better to get a hole punched & save a whole .5 seconds?

YES!  :P
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 30, 2019, 06:15 PM
.....and I am wondering if the guys with a Nils think it is so much better to get a hole punched & save a whole .5 seconds?
I like the 2-3x more holes per charge much more than the cutting speed advantage
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 31, 2019, 04:57 AM
.....and I am wondering if the guys with a Nils think it is so much better to get a hole punched & save a whole .5 seconds?

....and I wonder if all kdrill onwers are sad they got lied to about their auger size, the crappy flight design, the cost, and the kdrills ability to suck battery juice like a lush on a Friday night.

I've cut with both, I like both...both make holes in ice. The nils in my opinion is better.

It is actually 8" and the nils is much smoother probably because the flights actually work. Better than that the nils flight length matches normal human size.  I always wondered if they made the kdrill for short people.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DTro on Jan 31, 2019, 06:32 AM
If someone could show me the Nils drilling 3 holes overlapping in a triangle pattern without wrecking the blade or walking into the adjacent hole I'll buy one tomorrow, until then I'll deal with slower drilling and more power consumption.  I beat the living tar out of the so called cheap plastic flighting and it's taking it like a champ. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: Deal Ninja on Jan 31, 2019, 07:46 AM
If someone could show me the Nils drilling 3 holes overlapping in a triangle pattern without wrecking the blade or walking into the adjacent hole I'll buy one tomorrow, until then I'll deal with slower drilling and more power consumption.  I beat the living tar out of the so called cheap plastic flighting and it's taking it like a champ.

I've wanted to try drilling overlapping holes with my Nils PP head, but I'm afraid of screwing it up and then I'd have to use my crappy backup auger until I got the Nils head back from Frank.  Still might give it a shot.

DN 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: RStock521 on Jan 31, 2019, 08:01 AM
I've wanted to try drilling overlapping holes with my Nils PP head, but I'm afraid of screwing it up and then I'd have to use my crappy backup auger until I got the Nils head back from Frank.  Still might give it a shot.

DN
DN, just out of curiousity, what's your crappy backup auger?

I accidentally drilled overlapping holes last weekend with my Nils non-power point and lived to tell the tale.  I was trying to drill a hole for my transducer, but accidentally got too close to my first hole and they overlapped.  Didn't seem to damage my cutting head.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: Deal Ninja on Jan 31, 2019, 08:07 AM
DN, just out of curiousity, what's your crappy backup auger?

I accidentally drilled overlapping holes last weekend with my Nils non-power point and lived to tell the tale.  I was trying to drill a hole for my transducer, but accidentally got too close to my first hole and they overlapped.  Didn't seem to damage my cutting head.

My backup is a 7 1/2" K-Drill.

I might give it a shot then.  Would be nice to have my transducer very near, but not in the same hole that I'm fishing through.

DN

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: luv2fish2 on Jan 31, 2019, 11:17 AM
it always seems it's a p#$^ing match about auger's and drill's i think they all have their strong point's guy's that like nils stick with them guy's that like k drill go for it i'm glad that there are options myself some excel in diff situations ,speed ,longevity , weight , size , ease of replacement pieces etc. use what u like and fault someone else for their's . anyway's how's everyone's rigid working out got one for my friend and it's doing the overload gig kinda irritating without having to drive 75 miles one way to replace it looking for a progress report
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 31, 2019, 12:22 PM
If someone could show me the Nils drilling 3 holes overlapping in a triangle pattern without wrecking the blade or walking into the adjacent hole I'll buy one tomorrow, until then I'll deal with slower drilling and more power consumption.  I beat the living tar out of the so called cheap plastic flighting and it's taking it like a champ.

You sir will have a clip shortly.  Probably Sunday.   I won't ask why anyone would want to constantly make man killers in the ice...

Also lets not get emotional....plastic is cheap...its not so called cheap...it is cheap....but its light.  Remember, I've used and like both so unlike some, I am not trying to win the vote of personal opinions on kdrill vs nils.   Right now I don't use either!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DTro on Jan 31, 2019, 12:45 PM
You sir will have a clip shortly.  Probably Sunday.   I won't ask why anyone would want to constantly make man killers in the ice...

Also lets not get emotional....plastic is cheap...its not so called cheap...it is cheap....but its light.  Remember, I've used and like both so unlike some, I am not trying to win the vote of personal opinions on kdrill vs nils.   Right now I don't use either!

Here’s the biggest problem, people make hipshot comments without thinking about who, what, why, where, or how.   Very few people fish the way I do (on a river for 100+lb fish).  I understand that, and take it with a grain of salt.   River ice is dirty ice. Not only silt, but sticks, gravel etc.   No matter what anyone tells me, I know first hand that “man killer” holes are needed for a fish you might encounter that is 6ft long and 3ft around.   Especially when you have 20+” of ice.   

Cleary some augers cut faster than others, and clearly your mileage may vary as to which auger is best for you.   The KDrill is a great auger with a few shortcomings.  For me personally it’s the best choice, especially since nobody yet has offered me a better alternative.    Are there people that just randomly go out and buy a KDrill because of marketing and hype?  Of course. Are there others that have made an educated choice?  Absolutely

Oh and by the way.  Plastic is not “cheap”.  That's a broad brush.  In fact some poly composites are more durable than metals or alloys in many applications.   You should see me reverse drill those “man killer” holes to get rid of the slush.  Every time, I think, holy balls how are the flights not breaking? 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 7lazy77 on Jan 31, 2019, 12:57 PM
Here’s the biggest problem, people make hipshot comments without thinking about who, what, why, where, or how.   Very few people fish the way I do (on a river for 100+lb fish).  I understand that, and take it with a grain of salt.   River ice is dirty ice. Not only silt, but sticks, gravel etc.   No matter what anyone tells me, I know first hand that “man killer” holes are needed for a fish you might encounter that is 6ft long and 3ft around.   Especially when you have 20+” of ice.   

Cleary some augers cut faster than others, and clearly your mileage may vary as to which auger is best for you.   The KDrill is a great auger with a few shortcomings.  For me personally it’s the best choice, especially since nobody yet has offered me a better alternative.    Are there people that just randomly go out and buy a KDrill because of marketing and hype?  Of course. Are there others that have made an educated choice?  Absolutely

Oh and by the way.  Plastic is not “cheap”.  That's a broad brush.  In fact some poly composites are more durable than metals or alloys in many applications.   You should see me reverse drill those “man killer” holes to get rid of the slush.  Every time, I think, holy balls how are the flights not breaking?

Well said....to each their own!  What works for me, may not work for the next person & vise versa.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 31, 2019, 01:01 PM
I agree.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 31, 2019, 02:03 PM
I like the 2-3x more holes per charge much more than the cutting speed advantage

Exactly!!  but is the cutting head sharpening price really worth it?? For the nils?? That's why I have been looking hard at the k drill.. some of it turn me off towards the k drill aluminum shaft could be a problem ?? Flighting is another and speed of cutting..

I think it was Dtro that said plastic can be better then metal...   dtro is correct look at bullet proof poly carbonate etc..  there has been a lot of advancements in plastics since the 50's when they were useing bake lite and soy bean type plastics .. also look at plastics they don't rust like steel does living in salt beLt you car will be gone quicker with high tinsel strength steel versus aluminum or plastics most likely why ford went to aluminum in there f150's??  Don't get me wrong chevy makes a damn good engine  but should have thought before blasting ford for aluminum in there bodies of their trucks??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 31, 2019, 06:02 PM
Exactly!!  but is the cutting head sharpening price really worth it?? For the nils?? That's why I have been looking hard at the k drill.. some of it turn me off towards the k drill aluminum shaft could be a problem ?? Flighting is another and speed of cutting..

I think it was Dtro that said plastic can be better then metal...   dtro is correct look at bullet proof poly carbonate etc..  there has been a lot of advancements in plastics since the 50's when they were useing bake lite and soy bean type plastics .. also look at plastics they don't rust like steel does living in salt beLt you car will be gone quicker with high tinsel strength steel versus aluminum or plastics most likely why ford went to aluminum in there f150's??  Don't get me wrong chevy makes a damn good engine  but should have thought before blasting ford for aluminum in there bodies of their trucks??

Im 4 years in with my Nils and haven't sent mine out for sharpening. Still cuts like new. Im around 200 holes so far this year, conservatively 500 over the past 4 years. I do do a light honing twice a year on the nils, which I don't recommend people trying. But in my opinion, if I had to send it out every two years for a $40 professional sharpening it wouldn't bother me one bit. I am super careful with it tho, if I know I'm drilling ultra shallow (1-2ft of water), I use a 15 dollar craigslist back up. Biggest overall advantage for me is that im not married to a drill with the Nils like you are with the KDrill. To each their own!!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: FISHFORPIKE on Jan 31, 2019, 06:10 PM
Dtro - how about some PICs of a few of those 100 lb. fish, through the ice.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: VTMatt on Jan 31, 2019, 06:48 PM
Im 4 years in with my Nils and haven't sent mine out for sharpening. Still cuts like new. Im around 200 holes so far this year, conservatively 500 over the past 4 years. I do do a light honing twice a year on the nils, which I don't recommend people trying. But in my opinion, if I had to send it out every two years for a $40 professional sharpening it wouldn't bother me one bit. I am super careful with it tho, if I know I'm drilling ultra shallow (1-2ft of water), I use a 15 dollar craigslist back up. Biggest overall advantage for me is that im not married to a drill with the Nils like you are with the KDrill. To each their own!!
Why exactly is the K drill married to a drill, and why would that even matter?  I've had a 6" k drill out twice now and do like the weight difference for sure.  Drill setups nowadays cut so fast and the batteries last so long, who cares....I highly doubt anyones burning through a 9 AG ridgid battery in a normal day.  I run and gun and still had almost 1/2 of battery life left.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: FISHFORPIKE on Jan 31, 2019, 07:02 PM
Why exactly is the K drill married to a drill, and why would that even matter?
It's not!  Just advertised that way.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 31, 2019, 07:11 PM
Why exactly is the K drill married to a drill, and why would that even matter?  I've had a 6" k drill out twice now and do like the weight difference for sure.  Drill setups nowadays cut so fast and the batteries last so long, who cares....I highly doubt anyones burning through a 9 AG ridgid battery in a normal day.  I run and gun and still had almost 1/2 of battery life left.
Certainly weren't bashing the KDill. Was just stating I like that I can use my Nils as a hand auger and that you can't with the KDrill(last I knew.) I don't plan on using my Octane drill till at least 16" of ice next season because it cuts so good manually.  Weren't implying that anyone would burn through a battery either. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 31, 2019, 07:13 PM
It's not!  Just advertised that way.
Can you use the KDrill as a hand auger?? Didnt think you could, but may have been mistaken.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: FISHFORPIKE on Jan 31, 2019, 07:21 PM
Never saw one.  It would have be a custon rig.  Why would anyone want to do such a thing.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Jan 31, 2019, 07:24 PM
Never saw one.  It would have be a custon rig.  Why would anyone want to do such a thing.
I certainly wouldn't with the ripper blades. Just weren't exactly sure that you meant in your comment.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: John_BZ on Jan 31, 2019, 07:56 PM
Never saw one.  It would have be a custon rig.  Why would anyone want to do such a thing.

Whats hard to understand? Reasoning here is the k drill is married to a drill. The nils or any hand auger for that matter has manual backup if you bring the handle with. Drill has a problem, run out of battery, forgot to charge, s**t happens moment, you are covered with a very easily carried means of back up. The k drill lacks that.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Jan 31, 2019, 10:14 PM
Dtro - how about some PICs of a few of those 100 lb. fish, through the ice.


Why would you want a sturgeon picture never seen one??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jan 31, 2019, 10:28 PM

Why would you want a sturgeon picture never seen one??

Why the heck would anyone here not want to see a pic of that.  What a silly question....oh wait...Fishforpike isn't a kdrill zealot so we gotta disagree with him right?   :P
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 01, 2019, 01:47 AM
Heres a good video of one you guys will like !!


https://youtu.be/snmVbGetO3s (https://youtu.be/snmVbGetO3s)

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DTro on Feb 01, 2019, 06:47 AM
Heres a good video of one you guys will like !!


https://youtu.be/snmVbGetO3s (https://youtu.be/snmVbGetO3s)

That one was actually on a stocked pond. But yeah you get the idea.   

Here's a decent one we got on video, but only about 50lbs.  I've seen them caught up to 130lbs in the same spot.




I caught this one in the same area a few years ago.  The biggest I've seen caught there this year so far was 77" and about 125lbs.



Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lowaccord66 on Feb 01, 2019, 07:20 AM
That's awesome.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 01, 2019, 08:05 AM
OK I got a question 3300. Will the 6 or 9 ah Octane batteries work on the Gen5x 700 Drills? OH never mind, I looked at them and it said it works with all 18 volt .
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Feb 01, 2019, 10:16 AM
yes
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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 01, 2019, 10:23 AM
yes
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So does it work the same? I see I can get 2 6ah octanes for $139 right now. The 9Ah is $184
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: MT204 on Feb 01, 2019, 11:09 AM
I personally would always recommend 2-6 AH batteries over 1-9 AH.
Then again 2-9 AH would be even better yet!
2 is almost always better when it comes to batteries. ::)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Feb 01, 2019, 12:08 PM
 went out at 5:30pm last wednesday while we were in windchill warnings just before dark to set up for fishing. the drill and battery had been in my vehicle for weeks. the air temp was minus 15 and the wind chills were minus 40. i knew right where i wanted to fish so i popped two eight inch holes no problem at all and set up over. i cut a partial hole to have it hold the auger and drill up and fished from 5:30pm to 8pm when the fish shut down. went to pack up and get the auger/drill put away, but the cold told the motor not to turn even tho it had 75% battery left. the led in the chuck just blinked. i had to shove the auger back and forth to free it and it had water seep into the hole. was 2 inches water at ramp on top of the ice.

 so it seems the minus 40 degree windchill affected the system big time. makes me want to know if i had a cover if it would make a difference or not. i normally have several bags over the system, but have not done so on the octane yet.

 was so cold my fx100i froze up and the right hole kept freezing with the heater on high and a fan over the heater blowing heat back down. i sat in the shelter with no coat and was good to go. i think the drill is good for minus 4 degrees.

right hole keep freezing and line was icing up.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/75L5ySZY/screenshot-140.png) (http://postimg.cc/75L5ySZY)

got stuck after 2 hours.
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worth it. 18 keepers. 12 went back in.
(https://i.postimg.cc/QBgXvtZJ/screenshot-142.png) (http://postimg.cc/QBgXvtZJ)

i should have thought it out better and brought the drill in with me into the shack, but i didn't need it anymore either.

So does it work the same? I see I can get 2 6ah octanes for $139 right now. The 9Ah is $184
i'll take the 780 inch pound with me, but i am using a new 8 inch lazer. the 4 amp and 6 inch lazer with zero problems. thinking the 9 amp will just run longer is all and not give more torque, but i'll try it for kicks.

the 9 amp battery/charger kit for 199$ lets you pick a free tool including the octane drill and you get a lsa on all of it which is important to me. i would go that route before buying 3 year limited warranty battery(s) and get nothing more. it's only 10$ more than the 9 amp battery alone.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: FishGut on Feb 01, 2019, 07:03 PM
150+ holes in, and 1.7 hrs of use from first charge my battery is at 45%

The drill paired with my 7 inch lazer is a beast. My worry is the Strikemaster adapter I'm using. Ive already got a twist forming on the part that locks into the chuck. I bet it's my own fault for not seating it deep enough.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Feb 01, 2019, 08:05 PM
150+ holes in, and 1.7 hrs of use from first charge my battery is at 45%

Awesome. 150 holes on one charge in insane.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: TickleStick on Feb 01, 2019, 10:22 PM
Just picked up my drill today, now I have to wait for the batteries....
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: badger132 on Feb 02, 2019, 10:37 AM
2 questions:
1. It seems like the efficiency of the bit is key. I use a 5 inch Lazer and 4.5 Nils, and the Nils is a lot easier, but it is also smaller. Has anyone tested anything that is less power then a Nils for the same diameter?

2. I have 2,3 and 4 AH batteries for my drill. The larger batteries also should have higher peak current capacity, because of how they are made. Since the current capacity goes down with temperature, seems like the bigger batteries might have enough juice to work even lower. Has anyone seen this? It has not been cold enough here to be a problem for any of my batteries this year.

Should have asked last week. Perfect test conditions in the midwest!

 :tipup:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: John_BZ on Feb 02, 2019, 11:52 AM
12"of ice today. Drilled 20 holes. About 25 degrees out. Drill and battery sat in truck overnight fully charged. Had a few instances where the chuck light flashed and the drill wouldn't start to turn at the very beginning of a hole. Other than that it drilled extremely fast. I may try it without the clam plate and see if it makes any difference.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Feb 02, 2019, 12:26 PM
i think what we might be seeing is the resistance to the motor before it actually begins turning. being it has new intelligent tech built in it may not know how to deal with resistance before starting up if you will.

2 questions:
1. It seems like the efficiency of the bit is key. I use a 5 inch Lazer and 4.5 Nils, and the Nils is a lot easier, but it is also smaller. Has anyone tested anything that is less power then a Nils for the same diameter?

2. I have 2,3 and 4 AH batteries for my drill. The larger batteries also should have higher peak current capacity, because of how they are made. Since the current capacity goes down with temperature, seems like the bigger batteries might have enough juice to work even lower. Has anyone seen this? It has not been cold enough here to be a problem for any of my batteries this year.

Should have asked last week. Perfect test conditions in the midwest!
answer to large amp battery and cold
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=362620.msg3948342#msg3948342

it would appear to be a temperature control protection system in the bms that keeps it from operating. as noted the chuck led blinked meaning it had communication with the battery, but it was told not to engage the motor being so cold with 75% charge remaining. the same bms keeps the motor from operating in high heat temps also.

with out going to hd or ridgids site to look at the specs, it should be minus 4 degrees is what they are rated for.

your question #1, i think your asking if a smaller powered drill will work with a 4.5 inch nils? if so, yes about any 500 inch pound plus drill should turn it. recommend 4 amps or more. if your asking about battery power, then yes, some have used 2 amp batteries on their augers to get a few holes cut.

down pressure such as added weight from a clam plate or knowing you have dull blades and push down on the auger would worsen results accordingly.

you already know the colder the temps, the less power we have stored in a battery. car batteries have the cca rating, but not power tools. they just have a minimum temp they will operate in and as i mentioned earlier the windchill affects them and mine would not start in minus 40 degree windchill's after being left in it for over 2 hours, but would work to make the holes in minus 15. being a large battery (9 amp) it must have held some heat to be able to function although it spent weeks out in my vehicle.


Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 02, 2019, 07:35 PM
Pretty warm today 40 degrees cut 45 holes in pretty thick double layer ice.4” of white and 6” of clear ice and had 3 bars left and app said 70% battery left.the weird intermediate trigger no power deal a few times but still working great.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 02, 2019, 07:36 PM
So if the drill and battery are rated at -4 and someones using it on a 20 degree day and its cutting out then clearly somethings up.  Mine wouldnt work on the first try in like 10 of 40 holes today...gets annoying having to wait and try again over and over....
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 02, 2019, 07:39 PM
Seems like everyones drill cuts out regardless of temp....so clearly somethings wrong with the drills.  If someone was doing an outdoor project in 30-40 degree temps and the drill cut out 25% of the time, it'd be returned instantly.  I love the drills performance when it DOES work, but getting it to consistently work is the issue....

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 02, 2019, 07:40 PM
My trigger cutout pattern is never in the middle of cutting or break thru.always right at the beginning.hit trigger,nothing,let off hit it again and it cuts.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 02, 2019, 07:47 PM
My trigger cutout pattern is never in the middle of cutting or break thru.always right at the beginning.hit trigger,nothing,let off hit it again and it cuts.

Yup, same....can be very annoying!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 02, 2019, 07:49 PM
Mine only did it 3 times out of 45 holes so it wasnt too bad.temp doesnt matter either.its done it a 5 degrees or 40 degrees.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 02, 2019, 07:51 PM
Mine only did it 3 times out of 45 holes so it wasnt too bad.temp doesnt matter either.its done it a 5 degrees or 40 degrees.

I sent Ridgid a message about it....will see what they say. If the tools rater at -4 then we shouldn't be having issues in temps above freezing..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 02, 2019, 08:38 PM
Pretty warm today 40 degrees cut 45 holes in pretty thick double layer ice.4” of white and 6” of clear ice and had 3 bars left and app said 70% battery left.the weird intermediate trigger no power deal a few times but still working great.


That's why I was wondering if the batteris could be  the problem??cauae temp does not matter... then could it be the batteris new circuits they put in?? See if you can narrow the problem down  by taking one of the new items out of the equation..  cause there bolth new the battery and the drill.. do so  by process of elimination like a know working battery from a working  used older model battery..  see if it cuts out at all..  if it does or does not e mail rigid is all I can suggest.. but from what I am hearing is its the drill??  Could be the trigger swictch can't tell ya yet have not had this problem my self yet...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Feb 02, 2019, 10:30 PM
just got in from 9 hours of fishing with friends.

i tried the ridgid 780 inch pound brushed drill with 4 amp and 9 amp on a new 8 inch lazer and it cut about 2 to 3 inches and cut out.

tried my 4 amp battery on the octane and it cut out after about the same depth.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 03, 2019, 06:10 AM
just got in from 9 hours of fishing with friends.

i tried the ridgid 780 inch pound brushed drill with 4 amp and 9 amp on a new 8 inch lazer and it cut about 2 to 3 inches and cut out.

tried my 4 amp battery on the octane and it cut out after about the same depth.
Very disheartening, I went ahead and bought me a new Eskimo M51 for thick ice. Was thinking about buying some 6AH Octane batteries but I think I made the better choice. I will still continue to use my Ridgid(non Octane) until I can no longer get it to work. I made a warmer for the batteries,oiled the blades and will stop going in -20 degree weather. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DTro on Feb 03, 2019, 08:43 AM
20" of ice last night.  On hole # 10 it cut out on me (8" KDrill)

I was cutting 4 sets of 3 overlapping holes so essentially one after another.

It seems as when the battery is drawn down it cannot tolerate the initial high loads as well.  I was still at 2 bars.  I think it might be heat related too.

It's annoying for sure, but if it protects the drill for longer life I'm ok with that.   

I do have a spare 9ah battery now, so next time I'm bringing that with to do a "cut out hot swap" and see what happens. I'm curious if the new battery will help or if the drill and battery talk to each other and if the drill is seeing a temp spike maybe a fresh battery won't help.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Feb 03, 2019, 10:25 AM
let us now how the 2nd 9 amp swap out goes. i think it will be back like new with a fresh battery.

when you think about batteries and the load, the battery can not provide the full 9 amps or voltage during the the entire discharge that the bars represent. i would imagine 2 bars (50%) means 4.5 amps or there about. i'm not certain what it may mean in volts although lithium is supposed to stay near it's rated voltage until the bms kicks in at the lower end of the volatge rating. as voltage drops so should amperage. would be cool if someone had a means to measure the drop in both volts and amps, but we are seeing the drop in performance as the amps fade because it shuts down with battery power left.
there should be some reserve or recovery in the cells also that the drill isn't seeing when it shuts off, but the meter can after the load is removed.
i think the 6 amp octane battery would could out much sooner or less holes cut. it's probably why hd was giving the octane drill with the 9 amp battery kit and not the 6 amp battery and why they don't make a 6 amp battery and charger kit.

i drilled at least 40 holes in 8 inches of ice that had water on top with an 8 inch lazer and had 75% remaining. never cutout or hesitated on start up.

i notice that even tho the battery levels drop, the performance seems to stay the same. so at some point the amps or voltage (maybe both) tells it when to stop and my guess is it's done in the bms. i listen to each cut and the whoosh sounds it makes when it gets into the water and pulls the water up to my knees even tho i am trying to keep it from bringing up all of that water. it just cuts so fast i can't prevent it. my older 780 inch pound ridgid drill and 6 inch lazer is much different. after break thru i would keep the drill cutting to bring water up to clear shavings. this rig cuts so fast there are very little shavings left to clear even when stopping as fast as i can on break thru. it is amazing to see an use and have a comparison to know the differences.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: John_BZ on Feb 03, 2019, 10:48 AM
let us now how the 2nd 9 amp swap out goes. i think it will be back like new with a fresh battery.

when you think about batteries and the load, the battery can not provide the full 9 amps or voltage during the the entire discharge that the bars represent. i would imagine 2 bars (50%) means 4.5 amps or there about. i'm not certain what it may mean in volts although lithium is supposed to stay near it's rated voltage until the bms kicks in at the lower end of the volatge rating. as voltage drops so should amperage. would be cool if someone had a means to measure the drop in both volts and amps, but we are seeing the drop in performance as the amps fade because it shuts down with battery power left.
there should be some reserve or recovery in the cells also that the drill isn't seeing when it shuts off, but the meter can after the load is removed.
i think the 6 amp octane battery would could out much sooner or less holes cut. it's probably why hd was giving the octane drill with the 9 amp battery kit and not the 6 amp battery and why they don't make a 6 amp battery and charger kit.

i drilled at least 40 holes in 8 inches of ice that had water on top with an 8 inch lazer and had 75% remaining. never cutout or hesitated on start up.

i notice that even tho the battery levels drop, the performance seems to stay the same. so at some point the amps or voltage (maybe both) tells it when to stop and my guess is it's done in the bms. i listen to each cut and the whoosh sounds it makes when it gets into the water and pulls the water up to my knees even tho i am trying to keep it from bringing up all of that water. it just cuts so fast i can't prevent it. my older 780 inch pound ridgid drill and 6 inch lazer is much different. after break thru i would keep the drill cutting to bring water up to clear shavings. this rig cuts so fast there are very little shavings left to clear even when stopping as fast as i can on break thru. it is amazing to see an use and have a comparison to know the differences.

That's not quite how that works. The amp hour rating is just a way to standardize the measurement of how long a battery will last. If the battery is at 50% it doesn't mean it can only supply 4.5a of current.  All it means is if it is a 9ah battery, the battery will put out 9 amps for 1 hour. Or 1amp for 9 hours. The battery is capable of outputting far more than 9 amps even if it is partially discharged. The drill is probably pulling close to 20amps of inrush current when it is starting locked rotor under load.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: MT204 on Feb 03, 2019, 12:15 PM
Most don't understand how ohms law works and that's why most electrical problem arises.
Most 20 ish volt power tool batteries can supply upwards of 50 amps or more "if" there is a load that needs that much, most cordless brushless motors will never need that much and have the circuitry (both tool & battery) so that their design limits can't be exceeded to save the battery and tool.
I have personally watched a 20 ish volt  power tool battery melt a piece of #12 gauge wire!
Most are forgetting NONE of the cordless drill/mixers on the market were ever designed to operate implements such as but not limited to an 8 inch auger! NONE!
The Octane drill "seems" to be working for some, others not so much?
Whats the one constant in all this?
Simple, the operator is different in almost all cases.
I think we have all seen the guy that could break an anvil and this is also true with cordless drills and ice augers!
Yesterday we drilled over 50 holes with a Milwaukee Mudmixer and 8" k drill in 20" of ice on 1-9 amp hr battery. This was the first time we had a battery go dead. Swapped the "dead" battery into my Vex and it read 98% (good for the rest of the day on the Vex) and put the 5 amp hr in the mixer for the last few holes of the day!
If you go to the K drill web page they talk of doom and gloom and don't recommend the Milwaukee MM?
I will not say this is the way to go because others are having "all sorts" of problems with the MMixer, but it works very well for us and ya I know someone is going to pipe up and say "just wait".
I have personally seen the carnage of using cordless drills for ice augers or things the tool  was not designed for and so far I personally have seen very few tools that will stand up to something they were not designed for!
The internet is wonderful but so often people give advice they shouldn't and the person that took it shouldn't have taken it, by the time the right answer comes along the damage has been done. Problem is most don't know "who" is giving advice on the other end.
I have quoted for many years "the right tool for the right job" still holds true.
And yes your mileage may vary. ::)

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: fishscales62 on Feb 03, 2019, 12:31 PM
Is the mudmixer a heavier duty drill? I fish the reservation all the time and have been thinking I would get a 8 inch K-drill.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 03, 2019, 01:15 PM
just got in from 9 hours of fishing with friends.

i tried the ridgid 780 inch pound brushed drill with 4 amp and 9 amp on a new 8 inch lazer and it cut about 2 to 3 inches and cut out.


tried my 4 amp battery on the octane and it cut out after about the same depth.


Sure the batteries don't have a overload circuit in them??  You said you did this on a 8 inch drill with a 725 inch pound brushed rigid is the therory behind this 100 inch pounds for every inch of auger ??   Like 800 inch pounds min for a 8 inch auger?? I am assuming the 8 inch laser cuts similar to the k drill?? with those ice breaking bars on it??  thing is to cut threw ice with them it's harder on Drill ?? I have been useing my nils on my clam plate the nils is a 8 inch..  I have been using it problem free. Same with my 6 inch by the way  I have a 7 inch mora that cut similar to the nils cause I put a laser blade adaptor set on with 7 inch laser blades.. I gave my brother my 8 and 5 inch laser and my older shappell s3000.. so I don't have my 8 inch laser to prove this question..   or point about  the drill cutting out under heavy load..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 03, 2019, 06:13 PM
just got in from 9 hours of fishing with friends.

i tried the ridgid 780 inch pound brushed drill with 4 amp and 9 amp on a new 8 inch lazer and it cut about 2 to 3 inches and cut out.

tried my 4 amp battery on the octane and it cut out after about the same depth.

@3300
Did you always use the laser 8 inch with the 780 inch pound drill ??  Last I remembered you had a great working set up with the 780 inch pound rigid.. could it be auger design of the 8 inch??  I know my 8 inch nils Flys threw the ice but the 8 laser on the 780 inch pound is not?? same with the 1300 inch pound rigid ?? Could the k drill have a flawed design  too??

If the designs are flawed causeing inrush current to high getting the protect circuits to shut off the drill.. 

"the following explains  why the circuits saved your drill  if uninteresting skip rest"..

 just like lra as in locked rotor amps  the Current is what will destroy a drill windings..same as electrial heating element have a set resistance to produce heat.. it's the resistance that cause the amprage to produce heat..

this all will destroy the drill windings  by breaking down the shielding from heat produced from too much current.. this is  described as amperage squared by resistance..   describing as copper loss in long transmission line runn of a 100 foot plus when you lose energy over long runs ..they all have point on this.. 

 the resistance of wire and amperage will produce  heat .. the sheilding breaks down on the motor winding of the drill.. the windings are a very long glass coated wire..  when the glass break down or wares off..   cause glass  is a insulator like thermal plstic on extension cords is.. when sheilding on windings break down smoke and fire follow..  so just be glad the circuit shut your drill off..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: MT204 on Feb 03, 2019, 06:25 PM
just got in from 9 hours of fishing with friends.

i tried the ridgid 780 inch pound brushed drill with 4 amp and 9 amp on a new 8 inch lazer and it cut about 2 to 3 inches and cut out.

tried my 4 amp battery on the octane and it cut out after about the same depth.

What's the model number of the drill in question?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: MT204 on Feb 03, 2019, 06:29 PM
just got in from 9 hours of fishing with friends.

i tried the ridgid 780 inch pound brushed drill with 4 amp and 9 amp on a new 8 inch lazer and it cut about 2 to 3 inches and cut out.

tried my 4 amp battery on the octane and it cut out after about the same depth.

What's the model number brushed drill in question?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 03, 2019, 06:38 PM
@3300 I am assumeing same reason i did this to my 8 inch ht auger it's causeing your drI'll to shut off?? Since it's the new auger bit why not try old?? On bolth drill see if they still cut out??


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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 03, 2019, 06:45 PM
I know my problem doesnt have anything to do with overloading it or overheat.mine does it without even turning the auger sometimes.like put auger down to get ready to cut,pull trigger..nothing.let of and hit trigger and it cuts.its a tad annoying but only a few seconds out of my day.im running mine till its broken.lsa time then.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 03, 2019, 06:51 PM
I know my problem doesnt have anything to do with overloading it or overheat.mine does it without even turning the auger sometimes.like put auger down to get ready to cut,pull trigger..nothing.let of and hit trigger and it cuts.its a tad annoying but only a few seconds out of my day.im running mine till its broken.lsa time then.


Ya  that would be a tad anoying.
 I am guessing a trigger issue there..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: kayl on Feb 03, 2019, 07:37 PM
I was out Friday, yesterday, and this morning with my Octane drill paired with a clam plate, clam extension, and 8" Mora and was very happy. The lakes I was on had about 24-26" of ice and the Octane was fantastic. I could notice a slight difference in power between Friday and the 0° temp and yesterday and today's warmer temps. I also noticed that the drill worked best when I cleared my shavings after about 18-20".  My only regret is not getting a second extension for more comfortable drilling.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: TNT5859 on Feb 03, 2019, 07:56 PM
I know my problem doesnt have anything to do with overloading it or overheat.mine does it without even turning the auger sometimes.like put auger down to get ready to cut,pull trigger..nothing.let of and hit trigger and it cuts.its a tad annoying but only a few seconds out of my day.im running mine till its broken.lsa time then,


Same thing with mine. I absolutely love it!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: Damn Yankee on Feb 03, 2019, 08:01 PM
 
Yesterday we drilled over 50 holes with a Milwaukee Mudmixer and 8" k drill in 20" of ice on 1-9 amp hr battery. This was the first time we had a battery go dead. Swapped the "dead" battery into my Vex and it read 98% (good for the rest of the day on the Vex) and put the 5 amp hr in the mixer for the last few holes of the day!
If you go to the K drill web page they talk of doom and gloom and don't recommend the Milwaukee MM?
I will not say this is the way to go because others are having "all sorts" of problems with the MMixer, but it works very well for us and ya I know someone is going to pipe up and say "just wait".
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Ask a Milwaukee techie why they have 2 6AH batteries. The standard 48-11-1860 and the 48-11-1865 (high output). The 1865 is physically the same size as their 9AH battery. Different internal cells and logic. Was told "it is for this exact situation you speak of".
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 04, 2019, 10:01 AM
Looks like the free tool special on the 9ah battery has ended.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 04, 2019, 10:08 AM
Yup that tool deal on that one ended but this one's stI'll there last I looked.


https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Compact-Hammer-Drill-with-2-1-5-Ah-Batteries-and-18-Volt-Charger-R861162SB/304583628 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Compact-Hammer-Drill-with-2-1-5-Ah-Batteries-and-18-Volt-Charger-R861162SB/304583628)

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 04, 2019, 10:12 AM
Yup that tool deal on that one ended but this one's stI'll there last I looked.


https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Compact-Hammer-Drill-with-2-1-5-Ah-Batteries-and-18-Volt-Charger-R861162SB/304583628 (https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Compact-Hammer-Drill-with-2-1-5-Ah-Batteries-and-18-Volt-Charger-R861162SB/304583628)
Ya know I don't get this deal. I have a 700 Inch Pound Ridgid and this says it is 750. Did they really make 2 drills that are that different? Or did they figure out the 700 was in deed 750? Inquiring minds want to know.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 04, 2019, 10:21 AM
700 inch pound
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-GEN5X-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Brushless-1-2-in-Compact-Hammer-Drill-Driver-Tool-Only-R86116N/206947557

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Compact-Hammer-Drill-Kit-with-2-2-0-Ah-Batteries-Charger-and-Bag-R86116K/206596560

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-Hammer-Drill-and-Impact-Driver-2-Tool-Combo-Kit-with-2-4-0Ah-Batteries-Charger-R9205/206127587

750 inch pound
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Compact-Hammer-Drill-with-2-1-5-Ah-Batteries-and-18-Volt-Charger-R861162SB/304583628

780 inch pound and what i own
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-5-Tool-Combo-Kit-with-2-4-0-Ah-Batteries-18-Volt-Charger-and-Contractor-s-Bag-R9652/205883898
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: winterbuddy on Feb 04, 2019, 10:39 AM
Not that this helps; I almost decided to try an Octane, but decided to stick with Milwaukee, so got two gen3 2804 drills as an auger upgrade.  Both sporadically hesitate on the trigger as described above.  My two Fuel 2604 drill setups never did that.  Maybe it's a design feature.. :-\?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 04, 2019, 10:40 AM
So that makes 3 different models 700,750 and 780. I emailed them to ask them if it was a mistake or if they really made those different models.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON UPDATE!!!
Post by: 3300 on Feb 04, 2019, 10:46 AM
@3300 I am assumeing same reason i did this to my 8 inch ht auger it's causeing your drI'll to shut off?? Since it's the new auger bit why not try old?? On bolth drill see if they still cut out??
i did all the testing and posted already.
i used a new 8 inch only lazer with gen5x 780 inch pound drill with 9 amp and 4 amp batteries and it cut out after 2 to 3 inches in ice starting a new hole for each test.

i used a gen5x 4 amp battery in the octane drill and it did the same thing.

yes, my 6 inch lazers and 4 inch lazer work fine on the 780 and 500 inch pound ridgid drills. no need to test them on a 1300 inch pound drill. maybe for those who are having cut out issues and don't want to exchange theirs, they might want to do some testing, but i would just exchange it. it would be good to know using two octane drills and two octane 9 amp batteries where the cut out is coming from for those having cut out issues.
as i said before, i am certain that each unit is not quality control inspected. also, each electronic component have tolerances and are like 5/10% +/-. this means they should all act differently to some extent.

i did this test because you thought the octane battery was the issue with cut outs and you asked someone to try the gne5x 4 amp. being they do not make a 4 amp octane i knew it would fail, but tested per your request anyway.

i do not have cut out issues. i had one issue with it not starting while fishing in minus 40 windchill's and i left it standing on the ice in a partial hole for over 2 hours. it did cut just fine while leaving the drill and battery over nite in my vehicle and the air temp was minus 17 before i cut the holes. so some where in between those values is when it can not operate. i did not have any cover over the drill/battery while it stood in the wind during that time. in hindsight, covering it may have made a difference, but i only use 2 shopping bags to keep moisture away so standing is my second go to option.
i can do more testing if it gets that cold again, but it's 50 out right now.

you asked which drill is my 780 inch pound drill. it is the R8611503 hammer drill.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-5-Tool-Combo-Kit-with-2-4-0-Ah-Batteries-18-Volt-Charger-and-Contractor-s-Bag-R9652/205883898
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 04, 2019, 12:04 PM
Just took my 8 inch nils off the octane and threw it on my r86116 hammer drill with 750 inch pounds claimed on box..  anyhow the drill cut out several times wile drilling with the 8 inch nils and smaller drill.. this  does not happen with the octane and the 8 inch nils..  so I am assumeing from this their is too much torqe on the drill..  and something is sensing this and cutting out.. I did not have this cUT out isSue with my 7 inch mora or my 6 inch nils on this drill  the r86116 with 750 inch pounds.. but never tried the 8 inch nils till now on the r86116..  so that should give you guys some insight on what's going on..  with the batteries and drill it's a protect circuit some ware in the two causeung it to shut off  by the way I used my 1.5 amp batteries and it shut off..  its not just the blue tooth batteries.. I think the octane is doing as should but your over loading with the 8 inch laser and k drill augers..  lf it were me . I would  try a octane mud mixer and if it don't work return cause you guys still got ice to try it this year!! And a 30 return on rigid products ?? If you think you can use a mud mixer?? Don't know what a wife would say if you can't or don't ever use the tool after buying...  thats why caution is used on saying that.. tread lightly lols..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 04, 2019, 12:14 PM
Just took my 8 inch nils off the octane and threw it on my r86116 hammer drill with 750 inch pounds claimed on box..  anyhow the drill cut out several times wile drilling with the 8 inch nils and smaller drill.. this  does not happen with the octane and the 8 inch nils..  so I am assumeing from this their is too much torqe on the drill..  and something is sensing this and cutting out.. I did not have this cUT out isSue with my 7 inch mora or my 6 inch nils on this drill  the r86116 with 750 inch pounds.. but never tried the 8 inch nils till now on the r86116..  so that should give you guys some insight on what's going on..  with the batteries and drill it's a protect circuit some ware in the two causeung it to shut off  by the way I used my 1.5 amp batteries and it shut off..  its not just the blue tooth batteries.. I think the octane is doing as should but your over loading with the 8 inch laser and k drill augers..  lf it were me . I would  try a octane mud mixer and if it don't work return cause you guys still got ice to try it this year!! And a 30 return on rigid products ?? If you think you can use a mud mixer?? Don't know what a wife would say if you can't or don't ever use the tool after buying...  thats why caution is used on saying that.. tread lightly lols..
And did you try the 9ah Octane battery on the 750 Ridgid and 8" Nils?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 04, 2019, 12:31 PM
Want me to?? I am thinking same results cause the bits to big for drill..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 04, 2019, 12:38 PM
Want me to?? I am thinking same results cause the bits to big for drill..
Couldn't hurt to try.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 04, 2019, 12:47 PM
Give me a few to get ya some results..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: TickleStick on Feb 04, 2019, 12:56 PM
I want to pick up a extra battery, what would be the best price and amp?

Using a 8" lazer
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 04, 2019, 01:09 PM
stay with 9 amp. unless you need the lower profile for other tools like the circular saw and fan and panel light.

you can get two 9's for 2 bills and 3 year warranty or one 9 and one charger for 2 bills and lsa. your choice unless you want to buy one 9 amp for 184 and 3 year warranty. they sell a four pack of 9's for 4 bills and 3 year warranty.

they are 90 day returns and price match.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 04, 2019, 01:24 PM
Couldn't hurt to try.

My 9 amp worked fine with the 8 inch and the 750 inch pound drill..  the 1.5 amp battery on and the drill shut off on two out of the three holes..   I drill with the 1.5 amp the 9 amp not one shut off of the three holes I just drilled with the 9 amp ..  so I am guessing issue with batteries..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 04, 2019, 01:29 PM
My 9 amp worked fine with the 8 inch and the 750 inch pound drill..  the 1.5 amp battery on and the drill shut off on two out of the three holes..   I drill with the 1.5 amp the 9 amp not one shut off of the three holes I just drilled with the 9 amp ..  so I am guessing issue with batteries..
Thanks for trying. This whole shut off deal is getting more interesting.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 04, 2019, 01:58 PM
Wondering if the cell are bad in the lithium ion packs of the drill or its circuits etc???
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: shiveringjoe on Feb 04, 2019, 02:11 PM
Sorry to see people are having problems with the Octane. I have an octane, 9ah battery, clam plate, and a new 8" lazer. Used it several times in December when the ice was under 8", once in early january on 12" ice when it was around 0 degrees, and then twice this weekend on 14-16" of ice and 10-15 degrees. Only had one cutout ever and it was in a spot with some refrozen ice chunks that I couldn't see after I finished the hole and sprayed water everywhere. I don't feather the throttle at all and I don't apply any downward pressure besides the weight of the auger setup. I did around 40 holes yesterday in 14" and had more than 50% battery remaining. In my group was a Milwaukee Fuel (1200 torque) with an eskimo 6" and a Ridgid X5 with a 6" mora. I was cutting holes at least twice as fast (certainly some of this is from sharper blades).  Only complaint with the setup is that it is difficult to pull the battery while mounted to the clam plate.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 04, 2019, 02:42 PM
Here’s the reason I think it’s safety feature with the batteries.   For me personally, it’s only happening after drilling a bunch of holes in succession.  I can physically feel the drill get a bit slower in RPM before it starts happening.   Up until that point it rips.   Something is telling the battery, “hey we need to control this a bit”.    Some say it’s a bad thing some say it’s a good thing.  I would side on the good thing because it is essentially protecting your drill.  Annoying?…yes.    My DeWalt didn’t do that, however I could smell not so good things going on at about the same point in which the Ridgid starting cutting out.   I can’t imagine that was a good thing, but it never really seem to hurt anything either.  Maybe a long term factor?     
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 04, 2019, 02:44 PM
Well said dtro thinking same thing my self..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 04, 2019, 03:29 PM
Here’s the reason I think it’s safety feature with the batteries.   For me personally, it’s only happening after drilling a bunch of holes in succession.  I can physically feel the drill get a bit slower in RPM before it starts happening.   Up until that point it rips.   Something is telling the battery, “hey we need to control this a bit”.    Some say it’s a bad thing some say it’s a good thing.  I would side on the good thing because it is essentially protecting your drill.  Annoying?…yes.    My DeWalt didn’t do that, however I could smell not so good things going on at about the same point in which the Ridgid starting cutting out.   I can’t imagine that was a good thing, but it never really seem to hurt anything either.  Maybe a long term factor?   

Like I have posted before...mine has cut out after only a few holes....on mild days....on a full battery.

On a side note, Ridgid responded by saying it's not a known issue and I need to take the drill to an authorized servic3 center, lol. 

In other words, they have no idea whats going on.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 04, 2019, 03:51 PM
Like I have posted before...mine has cut out after only a few holes....on mild days....on a full battery.
On a side note, Ridgid responded by saying it's not a known issue and I need to take the drill to an authorized servic3 center, lol. 
In other words, they have no idea whats going on.
it seems like you are the main person having issues. it's a good thing that they don't know what's going on. that make it a widespread problem for them and us.

i contacted my small independent authorized service center that i like a lot and used one time and asked if they have had any of these new octane tools going in for repairs and he said no. i asked if he heard of any issues at all and he said no.

if it's too late to return/swap yours, then either wait out the season to keep using it or take it in and get a new battery or just contact yours and let them know you think the problem is battery related and you can not go with out the tool and want to swap out batteries.
there shouldn't be much else they can do for it except to replace the motor and you'll know if it is motor or battery by having a different battery. it could be a switch related issue, but i highly doubt that it is.

another option is to buy a new battery, test your system and if it checks out ok, then return the new battery and then tell your shop you know it is the battery and you need a new one asap. mean while you have 90 days to keep using the new one. that should get you thru the season. same for the drill if it is not the battery.
 if you were closer i would help you out by swapping components with you to test.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 04, 2019, 05:21 PM
it seems like you are the main person having issues. it's a good thing that they don't know what's going on. that make it a widespread problem for them and us.

i contacted my small independent authorized service center that i like a lot and used one time and asked if they have had any of these new octane tools going in for repairs and he said no. i asked if he heard of any issues at all and he said no.

if it's too late to return/swap yours, then either wait out the season to keep using it or take it in and get a new battery or just contact yours and let them know you think the problem is battery related and you can not go with out the tool and want to swap out batteries.
there shouldn't be much else they can do for it except to replace the motor and you'll know if it is motor or battery by having a different battery. it could be a switch related issue, but i highly doubt that it is.

another option is to buy a new battery, test your system and if it checks out ok, then return the new battery and then tell your shop you know it is the battery and you need a new one asap. mean while you have 90 days to keep using the new one. that should get you thru the season. same for the drill if it is not the battery.
 if you were closer i would help you out by swapping components with you to test.

Already have a brand new second 9 AH battery - still cuts out when I press the trigger.

Seems like every single person has experienced a cutout of some sort with their Ridgid Octane drills.  Maybe mine is worse or maybe it just bugs me a little more to know I spent alot of money on the drill and batteries to have it work intermittently at times. 

If I swap the drill out and it does the same thing, I'll be even more irritated.

The fact that their CS gave me a generic response tells me they don't even know of a "safety" shutoff feature.  All we are doing is guessing what is wrong...and the only people that would know for sure are Ridgid, but apparently they have no idea.

 ???
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 04, 2019, 06:05 PM
Already have a brand new second 9 AH battery - still cuts out when I press the trigger.

Seems like every single person has experienced a cutout of some sort with their Ridgid Octane drills.  Maybe mine is worse or maybe it just bugs me a little more to know I spent alot of money on the drill and batteries to have it work intermittently at times. 

If I swap the drill out and it does the same thing, I'll be even more irritated.

The fact that their CS gave me a generic response tells me they don't even know of a "safety" shutoff feature.  All we are doing is guessing what is wrong...and the only people that would know for sure are Ridgid, but apparently they have no idea.

 ???
im on your side.mine cuts out so random. but not cutting holes that much.just randomly does it before cutting the first hole,getting 8 holes cut then pull the trigger and nothing on the 9th.but its takes less than a second to let off the trigger and press it again to start cutting ice.the light comes on so I know the trigger is pressed in.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 04, 2019, 06:09 PM
im on your side.mine cuts out so random. but not cutting holes that much.just randomly does it before cutting the first hole,getting 8 holes cut then pull the trigger and nothing on the 9th.but its takes less than a second to let off the trigger and press it again to start cutting ice.the light comes on so I know the trigger is pressed in.

A few seconds isnt bad...but this weekend mine just kept blinking. Wouldnt work...had to take the battery off which is a pita...mine has to be forced off which I guess ia good.  But yes, very random cutouts...but mostly before the hole is even started.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: kayl on Feb 04, 2019, 06:17 PM
I had my auger out this weekend and had some friends using it. For what it's worth, the cut outs I saw were user error. Most common was starting too slow. The next was putting weight on the auger. I only had one cutout myself and that was for a dead battery. 😎
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 04, 2019, 06:31 PM
I had my auger out this weekend and had some friends using it. For what it's worth, the cut outs I saw were user error. Most common was starting too slow. The next was putting weight on the auger. I only had one cutout myself and that was for a dead battery. 😎
yeah well theres not much error to be had by putting the auger down on the ice to cut a hole and pull the trigger and nothing happening.its not to much of a issue for me yet.never had to take the battery off and I probably drilled 200 holes so far and its done the random no start or stop around 15 times.always before cutting never during is the puzzling part to me.so its not overloading or overheating.my drilling technique is to just pull the trigger fully.if I don't and start out slow my mora wants to walk.learned that on the very first hole.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 04, 2019, 07:24 PM
Did you guys connect it to your phone/bluetooth to see what the actual error code is?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 04, 2019, 07:36 PM
Did you guys connect it to your phone/bluetooth to see what the actual error code is?
i have it connected.no codes or notifications and i have all them checked to notify on the app.that app not that accurate.hrs used says 2.5 hrs but ive only used it less than a hr.charge times are off.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 04, 2019, 07:40 PM
Did you guys connect it to your phone/bluetooth to see what the actual error code is?

I guess I will have to.  Nothing better than taking my gloves off in the winter to dig my phone out, open an app and then drill until it cuts out..lol fun..

As for user error - not even close.  I've tried multiple things.  Hammering the trigger, starting it in the air, feathering the trigger...

The one steady thing seems to be the cold.  Clearly something is going on with the batteries or the drill itself causing it to  shut off. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 04, 2019, 08:58 PM
Seems we all have different symptoms of drill problems  like mine on first hole 3 inches in to the cutting while trigger is full bore the dang drill shuts off completely trigger still held full down. Looked to check ..

this was on the 750 inch pound drill..  i did mark which battery did this and it's a small battery of 1.5 amp..  though it was cause of the auger bit at first..  as soon as you let off trigger and pull trigger again. It fires right up ..and some times shuts back off.. 


my 9 amp battery don't do this!!  same thing with my 9 amp on my octane drill  have not tried the 1.5 amp on the octane drill.. so I am assume till I get a chance to try it it's same issue..  any how I  bought this drill days before I found out about the 9 amp battery sale and free octane drill..  I also bought the octane weeks later before battery deal.. 

then bought a 9 amp kit with a square drive impact driver more weeks later.. figured I could use it?  I think I got my first set during the rush to buy these batteries..  the second battery I got at a odd time??  while not much hubbub about the 9 amp was going on.. any how I know it's not the drills I have right now..  and I am guessing it's not a circuit??


 I am thinking it's a bad cell in the drill batteries??  lithiom ion is know for bad cells in batteries when produced..  like in the Samsung note 7 that cought fire .. and had bad bateries etc and they have had problems with other lithom ion batteries being bad  days after bought bringing a recall on them...  read that about another tool company..  any how just thinking we got a bad batch..

 I would not rush to turn them in all at once every one ..  that might be what caused if it is a holiday rush!! Or similar??  By the way I did notice a burning smell either from drill or 1.5 amp battery wile driving home..  so i suggest useing  caution till you get your self a good battery ..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Feb 05, 2019, 01:12 AM
Already have a brand new second 9 AH battery - still cuts out when I press the trigger.

Seems like every single person has experienced a cutout of some sort with their Ridgid Octane drills.  Maybe mine is worse or maybe it just bugs me a little more to know I spent alot of money on the drill and batteries to have it work intermittently at times. 

If I swap the drill out and it does the same thing, I'll be even more irritated.

The fact that their CS gave me a generic response tells me they don't even know of a "safety" shutoff feature.  All we are doing is guessing what is wrong...and the only people that would know for sure are Ridgid, but apparently they have no idea.

 ???

Not every single person.  ;)  I count myself lucky, I have not had any issues that were not related to something being set wrong.  When mine is in the correct gear, it cuts like a demon every single time!  :thumbsup:  Only problem I ever had was due to the drill being in the wrong gear, likely from the kids messing with it at home before I headed out.  Mine has close to 200 problem-free holes on the clock, with only a single recharge thus far.  ;D
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Rather-B-Fishin on Feb 05, 2019, 01:33 AM
I have the same set up, using 8" mora... I don get intermittent shut off that makes the usage choppy. I have not figured out a pattern yet. Some times I can make a dozen holes with no issue. As long as it works and I have the original handle as a backup and fish are on the ice , I am not going to worry about it. It will be interesting to see what happens when some of us actually use the drill for what it is intended. I have to drill some holes in stone this spring that will be my indicator as to how annoyed I am going to get.
I wonder what all these companies think of us crazy ice fishermen using cordless drills on the ice?
Can you imagine being someone foreign to ice fishing in CS getting this complaint?  ??? ::)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Feb 05, 2019, 01:53 AM
I wonder what all these companies think of us crazy ice fishermen using cordless drills on the ice?
Can you imagine being someone foreign to ice fishing in CS getting this complaint?  ??? ::)

I could imagine if CS found out that a person was having problems and that they were using the drill to cut 8" holes in ice, they would probably make up some BS excuse that it was "abuse" of the tool, and cite that as a reason not to honor the warranty.  ::)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 05, 2019, 04:37 AM
Seems we all have different symptoms of drill problems  like mine on first hole 3 inches in to the cutting while trigger is full bore the dang drill shuts off completely trigger still held full down. Looked to check ..

this was on the 750 inch pound drill..  i did mark which battery did this and it's a small battery of 1.5 amp..  though it was cause of the auger bit at first..  as soon as you let off trigger and pull trigger again. It fires right up ..and some times shuts back off.. 


my 9 amp battery don't do this!!  same thing with my 9 amp on my octane drill  have not tried the 1.5 amp on the octane drill.. so I am assume till I get a chance to try it it's same issue..  any how I  bought this drill days before I found out about the 9 amp battery sale and free octane drill..  I also bought the octane weeks later before battery deal.. 

then bought a 9 amp kit with a square drive impact driver more weeks later.. figured I could use it?  I think I got my first set during the rush to buy these batteries..  the second battery I got at a odd time??  while not much hubbub about the 9 amp was going on.. any how I know it's not the drills I have right now..  and I am guessing it's not a circuit??


 I am thinking it's a bad cell in the drill batteries??  lithiom ion is know for bad cells in batteries when produced..  like in the Samsung note 7 that cought fire .. and had bad bateries etc and they have had problems with other lithom ion batteries being bad  days after bought bringing a recall on them...  read that about another tool company..  any how just thinking we got a bad batch..

 I would not rush to turn them in all at once every one ..  that might be what caused if it is a holiday rush!! Or similar??  By the way I did notice a burning smell either from drill or 1.5 amp battery wile driving home..  so i suggest useing  caution till you get your self a good battery ..

1 5 ah batteries arent strong enough for an auger, people recommend at least 4 ah for a reason. 

So your 9 AH batteries also have problems or no?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 05, 2019, 05:13 AM
I could imagine if CS found out that a person was having problems and that they were using the drill to cut 8" holes in ice, they would probably make up some BS excuse that it was "abuse" of the tool, and cite that as a reason not to honor the warranty.  ::)

As far as I'm concerned there is no difference in using it on an auger and using it with a big concrete drill.

If you got your drill wet and it malfunctioned, that's a different story.  The drill for me isn't cutting out mid-cut, it's cutting out before it even starts spinning, so regardless of what I'm using it for, there is still a problem with it.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 05, 2019, 05:16 AM
Not every single person.  ;)  I count myself lucky, I have not had any issues that were not related to something being set wrong.  When mine is in the correct gear, it cuts like a demon every single time!  :thumbsup:  Only problem I ever had was due to the drill being in the wrong gear, likely from the kids messing with it at home before I headed out.  Mine has close to 200 problem-free holes on the clock, with only a single recharge thus far.  ;D

So if you've never had it cut out, that shows inconsistency as well.  If we ALL have cutout issues, we could assume it's either supposed to happen OR it was something that got overlooked during testing. But your setup seems to be fine....even more confusing.  What kind of temps are you using it in?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 05, 2019, 05:27 AM
Those drills are made to turn at least a 4" Wood hole cutting bit if not a 6".  I don't see using 8" Augers going through Ice with sharp blades putting any more torque on it than the Wood bits or the Concrete bits. But of course those Wood and Concrete bits don't weigh anywhere near the same as an Auger bit.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 05, 2019, 06:34 AM
I guess I will have to.  Nothing better than taking my gloves off in the winter to dig my phone out, open an app and then drill until it cuts out..lol fun..

As for user error - not even close.  I've tried multiple things.  Hammering the trigger, starting it in the air, feathering the trigger...

The one steady thing seems to be the cold.  Clearly something is going on with the batteries or the drill itself causing it to  shut off.

You can pair your phone to the battery before you go fishing, then check the stored codes later.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Feb 05, 2019, 08:20 AM
So if you've never had it cut out, that shows inconsistency as well.  If we ALL have cutout issues, we could assume it's either supposed to happen OR it was something that got overlooked during testing. But your setup seems to be fine....even more confusing.  What kind of temps are you using it in?
I’m well over 200 holes with my Octane/Nils combo. Not one cut out. We’re sitting at 25” of ice currently. I had mine in -10F. Worked flawlessly, with no babying the battery.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 05, 2019, 08:26 AM
I’m well over 200 holes with my Octane/Nils combo. Not one cut out. We’re sitting at 25” of ice currently. I had mine in -10F. Worked flawlessly, with no babying the battery.

Looks like I'll be swapping my drill out then.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Feb 05, 2019, 10:03 AM
Looks like I'll be swapping my drill out then.

My first octane had issues cutting out on the break through on the bottom of every hole. I swapped it out and now experience intermittent cutout issues before the bit turns like many others. When it does cut it works great. This one does not cut out when the drill punches through. Just the random failures to turn. Release the trigger and wait a couple seconds and it goes.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Feb 05, 2019, 10:07 AM
I have the same set up, using 8" mora... I don get intermittent shut off that makes the usage choppy. I have not figured out a pattern yet. Some times I can make a dozen holes with no issue. As long as it works and I have the original handle as a backup and fish are on the ice , I am not going to worry about it. It will be interesting to see what happens when some of us actually use the drill for what it is intended. I have to drill some holes in stone this spring that will be my indicator as to how annoyed I am going to get.
I wonder what all these companies think of us crazy ice fishermen using cordless drills on the ice?
Can you imagine being someone foreign to ice fishing in CS getting this complaint?  ??? ::)

I used mine in January to turn a 3" bulb drill to plant some tulip bulbs in frozen ground that my wife had forgotten about. No issues. Nearly broke a wrist when the bulb drill grabbed a tree root. Drill didn't cut out once for 50 holes in the ground.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: badger132 on Feb 05, 2019, 10:21 AM
I have an old Ridgid 780 in-lb, and have never seen the stall issue when the temp was above -20. I can only imaging the torque you must get with the 1300 in-lb setup. Makes me think that the people with stalls have a bad drill. I would be more worried about a broken wrist with this setup!

 :tipup:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Feb 05, 2019, 11:35 AM
I have an old Ridgid 780 in-lb, and have never seen the stall issue when the temp was above -20. I can only imaging the torque you must get with the 1300 in-lb setup. Makes me think that the people with stalls have a bad drill. I would be more worried about a broken wrist with this setup!

 :tipup:
Haven’t had one jerk of the wrist with my Octane/Nils. Cuts through like the ice isn’t there
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 05, 2019, 11:44 AM
Haven’t had one jerk of the wrist with my Octane/Nils. Cuts through like the ice isn’t there
same here. feels like there is too much momentum to have it hang up. cuts super fast and no slow down on the motor ever for me and a new 8 inch lazer. no catching on the bottom of the cut at all and throws water up to the knees.
zero issues with the octane and about 120 holes cut.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 05, 2019, 12:05 PM
I have an old Ridgid 780 in-lb, and have never seen the stall issue when the temp was above -20. I can only imaging the torque you must get with the 1300 in-lb setup. Makes me think that the people with stalls have a bad drill. I would be more worried about a broken wrist with this setup!

 :tipup:

I havent had any jerking issued at all with a 6" K Drill. Only issue is the cutting out.  >:(
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 05, 2019, 01:26 PM
It is nor the battery or the drill.. did you guys read your manuals that came with the drill??


Take a gander at this if you have not read your manuals my point proven it's a safty circuit any how there are a few other isues that might need addressing be sides the over load protection issue I had .. thats why I assumed it was the auger bit but now you know..


(https://i.postimg.cc/0bJKCSs4/20190205-142220.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0bJKCSs4)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Feb 05, 2019, 02:21 PM
It is nor the battery or the drill.. did you guys read your manuals that came with the drill??


Take a gander at this if you have not read your manuals my point proven it's a safty circuit any how there are a few other isues that might need addressing be sides the over load protection issue I had .. thats why I assumed it was the auger bit but now you know..


Ya everyone knew that already, way back in the thread, or possibly a different one, its all confusing now.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 05, 2019, 02:42 PM
Something I found interesting in my testing.    With the Ridgid and 8” KDrill I got approx 350” of ice drilled before I started getting any cutoff.  I was just watching back my video and the cutoff happened mid mid hole and without warning.   At that point I struggled with it afterwards and got maybe 2-3 more holes each time I disconnected the battery and let it sit for about 5 min.       The second test I ran, I did approx 600” of ice spread out over 3 days without any cutoffs.     This leads me to believe that it is heat/temp related.     When given time to cool down in-between I got a full 250” more ice with no cutouts. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 05, 2019, 03:59 PM
It is nor the battery or the drill.. did you guys read your manuals that came with the drill??


Take a gander at this if you have not read your manuals my point proven it's a safty circuit any how there are a few other isues that might need addressing be sides the over load protection issue I had .. thats why I assumed it was the auger bit but now you know..


(https://i.postimg.cc/0bJKCSs4/20190205-142220.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/0bJKCSs4)

This is a given for any tool....my Ion did the same thing if I got stuck in a hole.  My Ridgid has cut out on me the same way because I had a ton of ice build up on the head and chips in the hole.  People are not concerned with that, we're concerned that when you grab a brand new battery, walk out onto the ice, press the trigger to cut a hole and .......nothing. 

Not from too much heat, not from a half dead battery, not from the auger getting stuck, it's a malfunction with the drill itself.  People can call it what they want, all I see is a defective product. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 05, 2019, 04:18 PM
I've mentioned this before about overloading cordless tools when using large bits.
I personally haven't used my GAS power auger for a few years and sometimes my memory dims but I seem to recall that if I overloaded it or caught the bit when it went through that it stopped spinning? Clutch or something I think they called it, to protect the operator and engine? ::) ::) ::)
Yes there is some sarcasm here.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 05, 2019, 05:05 PM
I've mentioned this before about overloading cordless tools when using large bits.
I personally haven't used my GAS power auger for a few years and sometimes my memory dims but I seem to recall that if I overloaded it or caught the bit when it went through that it stopped spinning? Clutch or something I think they called it, to protect the operator and engine? ::) ::) ::)
Yes there is some sarcasm here.

Why are people bringing up "load" when the main issue is the drill WONT turn on when literally no force is being applied.
..am I in the twilight zone here??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 05, 2019, 05:08 PM
Why are people bringing up "load" when the main issue is the drill WONT turn on when literally no force is being applied.
..am I in the twilight zone here??
lol. Right .mine does it most before it even starts cutting.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Feb 05, 2019, 05:11 PM
Why are people bringing up "load" when the main issue is the drill WONT turn on when literally no force is being applied.
..am I in the twilight zone here??

Yes. Trying to fight ignorance with reason is very difficult.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 05, 2019, 05:21 PM
Yes. Trying to fight ignorance with reason is very difficult.
;)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 05, 2019, 05:32 PM
I have a thought about this. Not sure if anyone has tried it this way or not. Before pulling that trigger make sure the auger isn't just hanging in the air. Make sure there is some pressure so as not to have the weight of the auger pulling away from the drill. Just a thought it might be the weight pulling on the chuck that causes the no go problem sometimes. Interested if it makes a difference.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: FishGut on Feb 05, 2019, 05:41 PM
Well I had cut out issues today. Didn't even want to make it through the first hole. I believe it's a temperature extreme issue, coupled with the Octane "smart" circuitry. I left my battery and drill overnight in the truck, and it got down to 0*.  When I coupled the app, the battery temperature read 470 degrees?!? While sitting in the cab of the truck, it eventually calibrated to 32*. Even though it was fully charged, I was reading only 80%

I had a hard time drilling five holes. It seemed that if I ran the drill with no load for a few seconds (warming it up a touch?), it would cut through a bit better.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 05, 2019, 05:42 PM
I have a thought about this. Not sure if anyone has tried it this way or not. Before pulling that trigger make sure the auger isn't just hanging in the air. Make sure there is some pressure so as not to have the weight of the auger pulling away from the drill. Just a thought it might be the weight pulling on the chuck that causes the no go problem sometimes. Interested if it makes a difference.
i tried that lefty.thats how mine does it most.drill on ice ready to cut,hit trigger and nothing.mine has never done it running in the air tho.its not temp related for me either.its done it in 5 up to 45 degrees.my issue isnt severe like others and has never cut out cutting the hole.alway at the start before the auger even turns.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 05, 2019, 06:14 PM
Ok,
Only for the no start issue.
Take your drill inside and let it warm up.
Nice warm battery just charged.
All the adjustments where they should be.
NO bit in tool.
Try turning it on and off.
Any problems?
The reason I'm asking is that "maybe" the "load" of the auger at start up is to much, as in the drill thinks it's stuck/overloaded?

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 05, 2019, 06:16 PM
i tried that lefty.thats how mine does it most.drill on ice ready to cut,hit trigger and nothing.mine has never done it running in the air tho.its not temp related for me either.its done it in 5 up to 45 degrees.my issue isnt severe like others and has never cut out cutting the hole.alway at the start before the auger even turns.
Glad I asked, Just was curious if it made a difference.  Thanks for the quick reply.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Sandcountrylivin on Feb 05, 2019, 10:43 PM
So just to add my experience as we try to make sense of everyone’s different results. The first day I used my octane /9amp/Nero I left the drill and battery in the truck overnight around zero temperatures and experienced both bottom of the whole cut outs and before I started first pull of the trigger cutouts. The problem was rectified by holding the auger in the air and engaging the trigger and setting the auger straight down on the ice and it would pull itself through the ice. After many trips out with my combo since and having never left the battery out overnight I have not experienced more that one or two cutouts all season.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 06, 2019, 10:29 AM
Why are people bringing up "load" when the main issue is the drill WONT turn on when literally no force is being applied.
..am I in the twilight zone here??
I asked in another post but no one has answered.
With an auger on the drill there IS a load at start up it's called rotating mass and "can" consume a tremendous amount of energy be it just for a nano second!
Have you tried slowly starting the drill with the auger (warm or cold)?
Have you tried starting the drill with nothing attached (warm or cold)?
Not being a smart ass but by process of elimination trying to help.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: shiveringjoe on Feb 06, 2019, 10:49 AM
I asked in another post but no one has answered.
With an auger on the drill there IS a load at start up it's called rotating mass and "can" consume a tremendous amount of energy be it just for a nano second!
Have you tried slowly starting the drill with the auger (warm or cold)?
Have you tried starting the drill with nothing attached (warm or cold)?
Not being a smart ass but by process of elimination trying to help.
I was wondering about rotational mass being too much at startup, but when I fishing Sunday I probably had 15 pound of ice on my lazer and still had no issues. I just put my blades on the ice, pull the trigger all the way and hold on!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: pmaloney86 on Feb 06, 2019, 11:27 AM
i tried that lefty.thats how mine does it most.drill on ice ready to cut,hit trigger and nothing.mine has never done it running in the air tho.its not temp related for me either.its done it in 5 up to 45 degrees.my issue isnt severe like others and has never cut out cutting the hole.alway at the start before the auger even turns.

I'm right there with ya.  Luckily I never got rid of my Ion.  My buddy had ten holes cut before I could even gut the dumb drill to engage and then I ran into that for almost ever hole I drilled.  I'm using a clam plate as well.  The Ion is 300% a better product.  I wish I saved my money but its nice being able to lug out two augers that weigh less than a gas auger, especially when you bring out other people that don't have an auger.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: pmaloney86 on Feb 06, 2019, 11:29 AM
My first octane had issues cutting out on the break through on the bottom of every hole. I swapped it out and now experience intermittent cutout issues before the bit turns like many others. When it does cut it works great. This one does not cut out when the drill punches through. Just the random failures to turn. Release the trigger and wait a couple seconds and it goes.

I've got the same issue.  Might be bringing my drill back.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 06, 2019, 12:40 PM
because there are so many variables, maybe this might help some.

there is fail to start (fts) and cut out (co) issues for some, but we don't know the percentage or why. some are calling fts a co when it's not a co issue at all.

would be interesting to see (poll) what is being used/done on these conditions such as clam plate or not. type of blades and age. if pushing down at all or lifting at all on start up and cutting or one or the other.
if yours works well and are just trying to help out here your input should be helpful.

i will start by saying i use a brand new kovac icemaster 2 auger to drill adapter that uses a bungee to help lift some of the weight, but not much from the chucks carry load and i use a brand new strikemaster lazer 8 inch and no extension and have zero issues with co or fts.

i leave all of it outside all of the time and exposed to what ever temp it will be used in so it is acclimated to the air temp.
i do let the entire weight rest on the ice before starting the cut. i don't have to baby the cut in any way at any time like slower drills do on breakthrough with lazers augers sometimes will unless lifted to take less ice per revolution.

having been from this brand drill and auger and adapter for years, it is a very nice upgrade and well worth owning for myself and i wish all of you could have the same experience. it is impressive to say the least.

if you want to help
*temp of battery/drill/air when having issues: minus 15 to 40
*surface of lake snow/ice and wet ice or dry: mixed/all conditions
*brand/size/age/type of blades of blades auger: lazer 8" brand new
*plate or no plate: none
*adapter:
*extension brand or none: none
*lift at all or rest entire weight or push down: allow eight to rest entire cut
*acclimated or not, drill and/or battery: both
*cut out at bottom or not or in the middle: no co
*if you have any of these issues, what have you done to try to remedy it. example try another battery or remove it or make sure it's tight, exchanges an idea has been brought up to try w/o auger for those with fts: none needed

i am curious if the plate trigger paddle is messing with the trigger switch for fts issues. nothing stops it from being pushed to hard at all and the angle is wrong on the trigger. tends to touch one point only and for me was on the bottom.
the plate is not built for this drill at all.
if you use a plate and co issues, please try it with out it and test unless your are not good with power tools and feel uncomfortable with out it. if the plate is hurting the switches, then the damage is done and not using the plate will make no difference. i read about other brand triggers getting broken from the plates trigger paddle. they need to make an adjustable stop for it or make a flexible trigger paddle system.

best option is to always exchange a faulty unit. you have 90 days to return or exchange when bought from home depot on anything. all they ask is if anything is wrong with it. i am not sure what happens if you say nothing is wrong with it, but it may go back on the shelf so please let them know what it is doing like stops cutting or wont start cutting. you don't have to be more specific.
someone said they tried another battery and their issue remained. that would tell us that issue is in the drill so only the drill would need exchanging. this is why we should work together to figure this out instead of giving up.
if your past the 90 days, you still have options such as buy another drill knowing it is going back after season and take your faulty unit to a small independent authorized service center and tell them what it's doing. they will have to install a new motor for co from the sounds of it and maybe a trigger switch for fts.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 06, 2019, 12:55 PM
Mine is in the fts group.with or without the clam plate running a 8” mora.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 06, 2019, 01:10 PM
did it always have that issue or did it start later on?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 06, 2019, 01:14 PM
did it always have that issue or did it start later on?
it did it from day one on the 2nd hole i drilled.it does it a few times a day drilling 30 to 40 holes.not enough to worry about yet.I just let off and hit the trigger again.it has never cut out in a hole.that would aggravate me alot more.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 06, 2019, 01:42 PM





best option is to always exchange a faulty unit. you have 90 days to return or exchange when bought from home depot on anything.
if your past the 90 days, you still have options such as buy another drill knowing it is going back after season and take your faulty unit to a small independent authorized service center and tell them what it's doing. they will have to install a new motor for co from the sounds of it and maybe a trigger switch for fts.
Please be careful recommending that the tool be "EXCHANGED"!
If the tool has been registered or not and it's "exchanged" the warranty is 3 years from the date on the receipt or if that's not available the date code on the tool!
The "exchanged" tool can not be registered for the lifetime warranty (LSA). The receipts are different. This has always been the case unless it has changed in the last few weeks (it may have, things change everyday).
If they want a new tool and warranty, take the tool back and get a store credit, then go buy a new tool.
Then remember to register it within the 90 day period.
If there is an electrical problem the entire motor, circuitry, switch and battery hold is one unit as are most brushless tool today.
Cheers.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 06, 2019, 02:08 PM
Please be careful recommending that the tool be "EXCHANGED"!
If the tool has been registered or not and it's "exchanged" the warranty is 3 years from the date on the receipt or if that's not available the date code on the tool!
The "exchanged" tool can not be registered for the lifetime warranty (LSA). The receipts are different. This has always been the case unless it has changed in the last few weeks (it may have, things change everyday).
If they want a new tool and warranty, take the tool back and get a store credit, then go buy a new tool.
Then remember to register it within the 90 day period.
If there is an electrical problem the entire motor, circuitry, switch and battery hold is one unit as are most brushless tool today.
Cheers.
i called in to double check. yes you can get the lsa transferred to your replacement tool and it has to be done on the phone explaining the tool exchange and with in the 90 days of original purchase.
1-800-474-3443
also on replacement parts such as batteries, you'll need to re-register those to keep the lsa on them with in 90 days of replacement(s). it's about having the serials registered before there is any issue, not after.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 06, 2019, 03:32 PM
i called in to double check. yes you can get the lsa transferred to your replacement tool and it has to be done on the phone explaining the tool exchange and with in the 90 days of original purchase.
1-800-474-3443
also on replacement parts such as batteries, you'll need to re-register those to keep the lsa on them with in 90 days of replacement(s). it's about having the serials registered before there is any issue, not after.
Thanks for calling.
I knew that if Ridgid replaced a tool (because a part was not available) the customer could re-register the new/replacement tool.
Must be something new that the customer can call in if it's exchanged threw HD as that has not been the case in the past!
But definitely they have to call.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 06, 2019, 04:50 PM
So I decided to do a bit of testing this afternoon.
Now before anyone gets all upset the tests were on Milwaukee tools, sorry no spare Ridgids to experiment on.
My interest was the inrush current (amps) on the tool with or without a auger attached, in this case an 8" (7.75") auger.
I used 2 older Milwaukee 2604 brushless drilsl and a MudMixer (my auger tool).
Kinda interesting and I repeated the test on 2 different 2604 drills.
For the max in rush it was pull the trigger full blast for all it was worth.
2604 drill   low range (1) no bit/no load running 3.3 amps, max inrush 80 amps.
2604 drill  high range (2) no bit no load running 5.0 amps, max inrush 100 amps
2604 drill low range (1) with 8" Krill  no load running 12.5 amps, max inrush 250 amps, (yep that correct in speed 1)!
MudMixer ran on 5 speed setting.
MudMixer running with out auger 5.5 running amps, inrush 35 amps.
MudMixer running with 8" Kdrill 6.5 running amps, inrush 41 amps.
By starting the drills "slowly" I could limit the inrush to under 10 amps on both tools!
Now I know your all wondering what the "max loaded" amperage was. Well just didn't have enough hands, wire and a load to do that.
I was able to put some load on the MudMixer with the auger but didn't see anything over 10 amps kinda inconclusive.
Whats my take on this data?
Ya I know it's Milwaukee but probably pretty close for most other brands.
I personally feel that the "fail to start" issue is because the Octane has so much power in a small chassis that the inrush/starting current is tripping the overload circuitry of the drill and/or battery (as they talk to each other).
I also feel that the "cut out" CO issue is the tool trying to save it's self.
This sorta makes since as the MudMixer doesn't have the fail to start issue but some are having the stop on break through.
Bottom line TRY starting slowly, don't push so hard on break through?
Just some food for thought.
Your mileage may vary.


Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: shiveringjoe on Feb 06, 2019, 05:52 PM
Thank you for the test and explanation. I was curious if the start load was an issue. was your auger vertical or horizontal for the test?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 06, 2019, 06:32 PM
I have tried to feather the trigger on startup...didn't make a difference  :-\

I'll test it tomorrow after work without an auger...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 06, 2019, 06:36 PM
Thank you for the test and explanation. I was curious if the start load was an issue. was your auger vertical or horizontal for the test?
With the Milwaukee items it made no difference.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Feb 06, 2019, 07:42 PM
Although it didnt start well I was able to get my octane/clam plate/7" lazer to run in succession without failing to start. First hole was fine. Second hole I got a fail to start. After it happened I started to play with it a little more. I noticed it was turning the auger a very minute amount, almost unnoticeable, then stopping and blinking. I found that if I hovered the bit in the air and was extremely light on the trigger I could reliably get the bit to turn very slowly.  From there if I hammered down to full power then made light contact with the ice it drilled everytime. If I just got after it I could make it fault out every few holes. I'm going to continue trying this. It may just take a very light touch to keep the overload circuit happy with the combination I am running.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: winterbuddy on Feb 06, 2019, 07:55 PM
You Rigid jockeys need to figure this out..  ;D  I really want to switch brands so I can use that Rigid bluetooth radio charger.   
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Feb 07, 2019, 11:11 AM
I used mine yesterday in 2' + of ice.  When it works it works great but many times just stops and you lift it up a little, press switch again, and it goes.  I haven't used drill for intended purpose yet but sure hope it doesn't do this, just kind of annoying.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 07, 2019, 11:26 AM
Grandson who does carpentry who works in Telluride Colorado said he has to warm up their batteries before any of them work.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Feb 07, 2019, 04:54 PM
So a little dovetail off this topic. Here are 3 reasons why I went with the Nils over the KDrill 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 08, 2019, 03:26 AM
What am I missing?  The nils blade style looks exactly like the Lazer blades.  ???
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 08, 2019, 06:26 AM
Nils is nothing like the Lazer blades.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 08, 2019, 07:04 AM
I think the video is the classic example of what works best for each angler.   The nils is a great auger, I had one paired with the Tanaka powerhead about 10 years ago.    Has anyone tried drilling overlapping holes with the Nils?  I'm curious how it would work. 

Back then on my Nils, the cutting head was just slightly bigger than the flighting which left a LOT of slush in the holes too.  I didn't like that.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: fishlessman on Feb 08, 2019, 08:08 AM
just put this setup together and have a question. have not tried it in ice, but running it it bangs hard to a stop when releasing the trigger, even if released slowly. is that normal
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 08, 2019, 08:21 AM
just put this setup together and have a question. have not tried it in ice, but running it it bangs hard to a stop when releasing the trigger, even if released slowly. is that normal

It's the brake.  Yes it's normal.  Actually you shouldn't really be running it without a load applied because when the brake stops like that it will tend to loosen the chuck.   However, when I'm done I'm guilty of doing it too, just to spin off the excess water. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Feb 08, 2019, 08:36 AM
just put this setup together and have a question. have not tried it in ice, but running it it bangs hard to a stop when releasing the trigger, even if released slowly. is that normal
Normal. But like DTro said you shouldn’t make a habbit of activating the drill/auger combo without a load on the auger. It’s a lot of weight and momentum to slow down.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Feb 08, 2019, 08:43 AM
when im done drilling for a while, I drill a half hole and leave the auger in it.  don't seem to have ice up issues.


im guessing there is more shut down issues with the more aggressive auger heads.  my "shaving jiffy" doesn't even faze this drill.  I had 1 shut down, with the old 8"er in the garden clay, when it hit a root.  other than that none.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: fishlessman on Feb 08, 2019, 09:12 AM
good to know,  just made the adaptor and wanted to see how true it spun the nils, wobbles less than the old powerhead. wasnt expecting the hard brake action
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: slipperybob on Feb 08, 2019, 01:29 PM
It's the brake.  Yes it's normal.  Actually you shouldn't really be running it without a load applied because when the brake stops like that it will tend to loosen the chuck.   However, when I'm done I'm guilty of doing it too, just to spin off the excess water.

I was wondering how people say they lose their auger with the chuck loosening.  Mine hasn't loosen at all and I was wondering why I put in the big disc to prevent loss of auger in the first place.  Since it is sort of in the way while transporting.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Theshad on Feb 08, 2019, 01:34 PM
I lost mine do to a cheaply made adapter that crushed as the chuck tightened. Aluminum, bad choice.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Feb 08, 2019, 03:49 PM
oh no! you lost the auger? bummer.  mine is made from 3/4 bar stock with plexi plate for a saver.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Feb 08, 2019, 04:29 PM
I lost mine do to a cheaply made adapter that crushed as the chuck tightened. Aluminum, bad choice.
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Any of you using the kovac ice master adapter I'm here to tell you the bungie provided will last between 50-100 holes before breaking.  Picked up a much beefier bungie at hardware store today for $2.  Although my fin bore has not loosened at all from chuck, good insurance policy for money.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 08, 2019, 08:18 PM
Nils is nothing like the Lazer blades.


The 6 inch laser is pretty much a nills you throw a off set handle on a 6 inch laser they cut the same..  but a 7 and 8 inch laser is a way different ball game.. cause of those vee'd bars on the cutting head.. the laser take more effort cause of those bars..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Theshad on Feb 08, 2019, 08:24 PM
Used a magnet on a rope and got it back. Then bought a steel adapter with the bungee, problem solved.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: tater140 on Feb 09, 2019, 06:24 AM
My kovac bungee saved my auger the other day. The chuck loosened and the whole thing hung by the bungee in the hole. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 09, 2019, 10:05 AM
saved mine more times than i can think of over the years. it's easy to install it in the chuck on the high points of the adapter, so just the other day it saved mine 3 times in a row. every time i thought it was on the flats, but it wasn't. i ground down those high points on my first one so it had more of the flats for the chuck to grab so i am used to that.

i bought a new one for this season because the holes drilled in it are getting egg shaped and i bought a new 8 inch auger and wanted every thing new so there are no weak links. the high points where it is not a flat for the chuck to grab are rather large/wide. with the added torque of this drill i will not be grinding it at all and just have to get used to it.
it could use a sleeve welded to the inside to stop this wearing of the holes. first one is about 7 years old and still works.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 10, 2019, 01:32 PM
OK guys I NEED to share my experience with you that I had last night.   Get out to our spot.  We had 24" of measured ice and I have the 1300 and I brought my extra 9ah battery (so a total of 2 9ah batteries).  I have the 8" kdrill and drill 4 sets of 3 holes overlapped.   What I usually do is drill all three just about until they break through then finish them off.  I've noticed it takes a lot more torque to drill through the slurry slush if I drill each one through entirely. 

First off let me say that I did try messing with the trigger a bit when I first started and YES if I barely pulled the trigger it would cut out every time, even before i started one hole  I had to give it the nuts and it worked fine that way.

Ok so i get 3 sets of 3 drilled so basically 9 holes through 24".  And then 1/3 of the 4th set and the drill cut out mid hole (hole number 10).  So at that point I figure ok, I'll throw my spare battery on.  I connect it and same thing, it keeps cutting out and I can feel the heat.  Without a doubt it was heat/drill related as the new battery made no difference.  So I stumbled my way through the last hole (waiting a few minutes inbetween engagements). And decide to keep that set at only a double hole instead of a triple hole since I don't want to kill my drill.     After that I put the drill outside to cool off.   

Fast forward about 3 hours later and I get a MONSTER fish on.  I'm talking like fish of a lifetime Monster and of course its on the double hole not the triple hole.  We get it up and the fish has NO chance to come up the double hole.  So I go out and grab the drill to overlap another hole, and it won't drill.  It keeps cutting out.  Is to TOO COLD NOW?   I have no idea what was going on but one battery was at 3 bars and the other at 2 and neither was working well.  I was able to barely get one more hole in.  Then we find out that the fish won't come up 3 holes!   Well, now i'm stuck....   I put out an emergency call to nearby fisherman to come help me cut another hole and luckily someone came over with an ION and helped out.   

We did end up getting the fish through the hole (we actually need 5 8" holes), but man oh man, the Rigid flaked out on me and left me hanging. :(  With 2 9ah batteries I should have never had to worry at all.   I'm pretty sure I'm going to just go and return everything I bought.  I don't want to be in that position even again.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 10, 2019, 02:19 PM
Well that is a bummer.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: FISHFORPIKE on Feb 10, 2019, 02:55 PM
Where's the PIC of that fish!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 10, 2019, 03:17 PM
Is this  it?
Just ran across this.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 10, 2019, 03:30 PM
So i was in the fail to start group but today it quit mid hole after 15 holes.not all at once either,a few here and there.27 degrees and full battery and ice was about 10”.i hit the trigger and start cutting then stop,hit the trigger ,stop.i had to start new a new hole to get it to cut again.i think my drill is starting to act up worse with fail to start and cut out mid hole now.i told myself im running this drill until its broken.it cuts great when it works right.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 10, 2019, 03:46 PM
Yes, that's the video above.


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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: teampar on Feb 10, 2019, 03:51 PM
Awsome fish! congrats 😎

I have the Milwaukee Fuel/k-drill combo, overall I am happy with it. But I still consider it an early ice option. I am however glad I have the Milwaukee over the Rigid as their appears to be many people having issues with the Rigid.


Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: TickleStick on Feb 10, 2019, 05:05 PM
Damn nice fish  :clap:

Bummer about the drill, I'm still waiting to get my battery and charger delivered....I hope mine does not cause problems

It seems like they are all having issues on here on the forum
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Feb 10, 2019, 05:21 PM
As far as I'm concerned there is no difference in using it on an auger and using it with a big concrete drill.

If you got your drill wet and it malfunctioned, that's a different story.  The drill for me isn't cutting out mid-cut, it's cutting out before it even starts spinning, so regardless of what I'm using it for, there is still a problem with it.

I agree, but HD might not see it the same way.  I wouldn't mention it if I had to use the LSA.

So if you've never had it cut out, that shows inconsistency as well.  If we ALL have cutout issues, we could assume it's either supposed to happen OR it was something that got overlooked during testing. But your setup seems to be fine....even more confusing.  What kind of temps are you using it in?

I've definitely not been using it in as cold of temps as others.  I've had mine down to low 20's without any issue.

Those drills are made to turn at least a 4" Wood hole cutting bit if not a 6".  I don't see using 8" Augers going through Ice with sharp blades putting any more torque on it than the Wood bits or the Concrete bits. But of course those Wood and Concrete bits don't weigh anywhere near the same as an Auger bit.

The ice augers definitely have more mass/intertia, and that will most certainly make a difference in start-up load!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: FISHFORPIKE on Feb 10, 2019, 05:32 PM
Nice catch DTro   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Feb 10, 2019, 06:11 PM
Well I had cut out issues today. Didn't even want to make it through the first hole. I believe it's a temperature extreme issue, coupled with the Octane "smart" circuitry. I left my battery and drill overnight in the truck, and it got down to 0*.  When I coupled the app, the battery temperature read 470 degrees?!? While sitting in the cab of the truck, it eventually calibrated to 32*. Even though it was fully charged, I was reading only 80%

I had a hard time drilling five holes. It seemed that if I ran the drill with no load for a few seconds (warming it up a touch?), it would cut through a bit better.

Are you sure it was 470º and not 460º?  Mine does that too, as soon as the app shows it go below 32º, it reads 460º.   I'm betting the app developer messed up the equation to calculate from Rankine (or maybe even Kelvin) to Fahrenheit.  There's a "459.67º" in that equation...  Probably an absolute value or order of operations error in their conversion equation (though I would expect the error at 0º and not 32º, making me think the RTD or thermocouple is measuring in Kelvin, but I digress).

So I decided to do a bit of testing this afternoon.
Now before anyone gets all upset the tests were on Milwaukee tools, sorry no spare Ridgids to experiment on.
My interest was the inrush current (amps) on the tool with or without a auger attached, in this case an 8" (7.75") auger.
I used 2 older Milwaukee 2604 brushless drilsl and a MudMixer (my auger tool).
Kinda interesting and I repeated the test on 2 different 2604 drills.
For the max in rush it was pull the trigger full blast for all it was worth.
2604 drill   low range (1) no bit/no load running 3.3 amps, max inrush 80 amps.
2604 drill  high range (2) no bit no load running 5.0 amps, max inrush 100 amps
2604 drill low range (1) with 8" Krill  no load running 12.5 amps, max inrush 250 amps, (yep that correct in speed 1)!
MudMixer ran on 5 speed setting.
MudMixer running with out auger 5.5 running amps, inrush 35 amps.
MudMixer running with 8" Kdrill 6.5 running amps, inrush 41 amps.
By starting the drills "slowly" I could limit the inrush to under 10 amps on both tools!
Now I know your all wondering what the "max loaded" amperage was. Well just didn't have enough hands, wire and a load to do that.
I was able to put some load on the MudMixer with the auger but didn't see anything over 10 amps kinda inconclusive.
Whats my take on this data?
Ya I know it's Milwaukee but probably pretty close for most other brands.
I personally feel that the "fail to start" issue is because the Octane has so much power in a small chassis that the inrush/starting current is tripping the overload circuitry of the drill and/or battery (as they talk to each other).
I also feel that the "cut out" CO issue is the tool trying to save it's self.
This sorta makes since as the MudMixer doesn't have the fail to start issue but some are having the stop on break through.
Bottom line TRY starting slowly, don't push so hard on break through?
Just some food for thought.
Your mileage may vary.

Thank you for that explanation!  Some of the folks here clearly do not understand how the battery ratings are made.  Was really grating on my engineer brain.   ::)  "Ah" (Amp-hours) is a really dumb way to rate batteries in my opinion, it should be "Wh" (Watt-Hours) to be more accurate and take the operating voltage into account.

Also, battery "nominal" voltage is a bit stupid to me as well.  Our "18v" Ridgid tools are not really 18v.  Since an individual Li-Ion cell voltage typically varies from 3.6 volts when empty, to 4.2 volts at full charge, our tools are likely 5-cell (series) tools, and actually only at 18v when DEAD!  At full charge, they're more like 21 volts!  The 3Ah Octane battery would then be a 5-cell pack with the 5 cells wired in series, and the individual cells rated at 3,000 mAh (3Ah).  The Octane 9Ah pack would then be a 15-cell pack, with 3 parallel-wired groups of 5 cells wired in series.  Basically think of the 9Ah pack like 3 of the 3Ah packs hooked up to the drill all at once!

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Nils is nothing like the Lazer blades.

I wouldn't quite go that far.  The Lazer shaver blades have a VERY similar edge geometry to the Nils heads of the same diameter.  Like basically identical.  Close enough that when I've manually measured the angle of attack and curvatures between the two, I can't see a difference with 0.1º and 0.001" precision mechanical tools.  IF there is a difference at all, I'd need a 3D laser measurement device to see it.

This is why I laugh when folks always say the Nils is so superior to the Lazer...

The 6 inch laser is pretty much a nills you throw a off set handle on a 6 inch laser they cut the same..

Yep!

but a 7 and 8 inch laser is a way different ball game.. cause of those vee'd bars on the cutting head.. the laser take more effort cause of those bars..

I somewhat disagree.  Those bars are well behind the cutting edge and have little drag on a clean auger cutting the ice.  If the auger was threading through the ice instead of shaving it off, then maybe it would be an issue. But since the ice breaks apart when the edge hits it, those bars add little additional resistance.  Maybe a tiny bit, but not so much to be noticeable in my opinion.  They do provide additional support to the fighting that holds the blades in place, and keeping the geometry correct is pretty important!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Feb 10, 2019, 06:52 PM
OK guys I NEED to share my experience with you that I had last night.   Get out to our spot.  We had 24" of measured ice and I have the 1300 and I brought my extra 9ah battery (so a total of 2 9ah batteries).  I have the 8" kdrill and drill 4 sets of 3 holes overlapped.   What I usually do is drill all three just until they break through then finish them off.  I've noticed it takes a lot more torque to drill through the slurry slush if I drill each one through entirely. 

First off let me say that I did try messing with the trigger a bit when I first started and YES if I barely pulled the trigger it would cut out every time, even before i started one hole  I had to give it the nuts and it worked fine that way.

Ok so i get 3 sets of 3 drilled so basically 9 holes through 24".  And then 1/3 of the 4th set and the drill cut out mid hole (hole number 10).  So at that point I figure ok, I'll throw my spare battery on.  I connect it and same thing, it keeps cutting out and I can feel the heat.  Without a doubt it was heat/drill related as the new battery made no difference.  So I stumbled my way through the last hole (waiting a few minutes inbetween engagements). And decide to keep that set at only a double hole instead of a triple hole since I don't want to kill my drill.     After that I put the drill outside to cool off.   

Fast forward about 3 hours later and I get a MONSTER fish on.  I'm talking like fish of a lifetime Monster and of course its on the double hole not the triple hole.  We get it up and the fish has NO chance to come up the double hole.  So I go out and grab the drill to overlap another hole, and it won't drill.  It keeps cutting out.  Is to TOO COLD NOW?   I have no idea what was going on but one battery was at 3 bars and the other at 2 and neither was working well.  I was able to barely get one more hole in.  Then we find out that the fish won't come up 3 holes!   Well, now i'm stuck....   I put out an emergency call to nearby fisherman to come help me cut another hole and luckily someone came over with an ION and helped out.   

We did end up getting the fish through the hole (we actually need 5 8" holes), but man oh man, the Rigid flaked out on me and left me hanging. :(  With 2 9ah batteries I should have never had to worry at all.   I'm pretty sure I'm going to just go and return everything I bought.  I don't every want to be in that position even again.

Here's how it all unfolded.   

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AWESOME fish Dtro!!!   :o :clap: :thumbsup:  @) @) @) Pretty amazing video too!

I'm sad to hear that the Ridgid let you down here when it mattered the most.  I can understand it stopping itself to prevent overheating, and I'm OK with that.  But how cold was it out where the drill was sitting? I don't know why there's a low temperature issue, other than the Li-Ion batteries just might not be able to put out enough amperage when they're that cold.  The drill itself shouldn't have any problem with the cold.

It's a known issue, and chemistry-related, that Li-Ion cells can't do well when too cold, just the nature of the battery type.  Higher voltage (and thus lower amperage requirement per cell) is the only real solution here, and that is likely why many of the electric specific augers are 40 volts and above.  Can still get the higher wattage to the motor while keeping the amperage draw low to the individual cells.  The only thing we can do when using the more budget-friendly drill option is to keep the batteries from getting too cold in high demand applications like yours when the need to be able to drill through 2' of ice consistently.

Congrats again on the TROPHY!!!  :thumbsup:

So i was in the fail to start group but today it quit mid hole after 15 holes.not all at once either,a few here and there.27 degrees and full battery and ice was about 10”.i hit the trigger and start cutting then stop,hit the trigger ,stop.i had to start new a new hole to get it to cut again.i think my drill is starting to act up worse with fail to start and cut out mid hole now.i told myself im running this drill until its broken.it cuts great when it works right.

I'd definitely be getting that particular drill exchanged if I were in your shoes.  Dtro cut about 230" of ice, consecutively, using an 8" Kdrill which is probably the most taxing auger but you can put on the drill, before having an apparent heat-related shut off with his drill.  Unless yours is overheating at 150" for some reason? Did it feel hot? Was the battery full when you started?

Edit:  Ah, I see you're using a Clam plate.  That could be it too.  Perhaps that is causing additional stress/resistance on the drill vs. just having the auger mounted directly?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 10, 2019, 06:59 PM
Battery was at 3 bars because i used it the day before.85% charged according to the app.never gets hot even after cutting 25 holes back to back.the fail to start problems are from day one.the cutout mid hole started today.think it may have bound up on a double layer section of ice but even when it was out of the hole it did the fail to start.it does the fts with or without the plate.im running this drill until it breaks.guys that have returned or exchanged still have the same problems so i will just run it.non of the problems prevents me to drill 25 to 40 holes per day.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Feb 10, 2019, 07:01 PM
Definitely an exchange candidate then, IMO.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 10, 2019, 07:05 PM
I already knew the drill for a auger is not answer to everything but for the skinny ice we have it works alright.it works but still wont be a replacement for my gas or propane augers.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 11, 2019, 08:23 AM
I was going to buy 2 6AH batteries this year and the 1300 "# next year. I am really glad I bought the Eskimo M51 Gas auger instead. I am 66 but hey 32 #'s is not a problem for me. I will continue with it until I can no longer fish. My Z51 I had was still running strong when I sold it. And I can sharpen these blades with no problem. I will use my Mini Nero for early ice only.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 11, 2019, 09:10 AM
Alright so I went back and watched my video footage (edited parts I clipped out)  I noticed that when I needed to drill the extra hole after I caught the fish, I went to drill and the auger head was froze up so I was banging on it a little bit to bite and also now I was drilling an overlapping hole that has already been drilled (remember I said I normally drill it and clean it out without breaking through).  Things I have taken away from this experience.

1.   Heat is definitely a factor when continuously drilling hole after hole in succession.  I’ve proven this by swapping out a new battery after it cuts out and also letting it sit up to 24 hours between holes.
2.   Drilling overlapping holes in anything over 12” is a big problem, especially when the holes are full of water and slush.  If you are going to do this get your holes mostly drilled and cleaned out and then break through one by one.  It’s amazing how much more torque it takes to overlap the hole when it fills with water and slush.  It REALLY taxes the drill. 
3.   The overload protection might be too sensitive on this Ridgid drill, but also probably not designed for our application.
4.   For most people this drill will work great. 

For how I fish, I wonder if an ice saw wouldn’t be a better option for connecting holes, especially late season when the ice is really thick.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lowaccord66 on Feb 11, 2019, 09:26 AM


As for overlapping, Drill them close and use your spud.  Quick and easy and you won't wreck your drill!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 11, 2019, 09:50 AM
Alright so I went back and watched my video footage (edited parts I clipped out)  I noticed that when I needed to drill the extra hole after I caught the fish, I went to drill and the auger head was froze up so I was banging on it a little bit to bite and also now I was drilling an overlapping hole that has already been drilled (remember I said I normally drill it and clean it out without breaking through).  Things I have taken away from this experience.

1.   Heat is definitely a factor when continuously drilling hole after hole in succession.  I’ve proven this by swapping out a new battery after it cuts out and also letting it sit up to 24 hours between holes.
2.   Drilling overlapping holes in anything over 12” is a big problem, especially when the holes are full of water and slush.  If you are going to do this get your holes mostly drilled and cleaned out and then break through one by one.  It’s amazing how much more torque it takes to overlap the hole when it fills with water and slush.  It REALLY taxes the drill. 
3.   The overload protection might be too sensitive on this Ridgid drill, but also probably not designed for our application.
4.   For most people this drill will work great. 

For how I fish, I wonder if an ice saw wouldn’t be a better option for connecting holes, especially late season when the ice is really thick.

i'm not experiencing the extra load on my auger while overlapping holes at all using lazer 8 inch, but it's not a foot of snow either. the way mine cuts it doesn't slow down ever and i listen to each cut. listening allow you to know if you should lighten up the speed of the cut by lifting some so it takes less materiel per revolution. the weight or inertia might be another factor that the lazer and nils have over composite augers.

the flight system clears shavings and pulls water up to the knees. i never have to raise or lift any pressure from my auger or try to help it clear out any thing. after it's done making a hole it is clear of shavings. it does it so fast i try to shut the motor off on break thru so i don't fill the tops of boots and the front of my bibs with water that quickly turns to ice.

so it sounds like a combination of the krdill chipper blades and composite flight system that is ineffective of removing shavings fast enough and on it's own is the difference. the blades don't have a sharp edge all of the way across so the parts that don't just slow the cut and take more energy and create more heat. the flight can't remove the weight of the shavings on the back side of the blades and again creates a bigger load and uses more energy and creates more heat. when you lift to try to clear them the octane must see the load differences and tries to adjust for them. then there is the going straight back down the hole the same way it was cut each time you lift not being exact and what that may do to the system. the difference between this drill and the rest is the intelligent circuit system that tries to match the power output based on the load. you keep changing it with the kdrill.

what does your dewalt do in same conditions drilling that many overlapping holes?

don't you have a different auger from before the kdrill to use?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 11, 2019, 10:18 AM
i'm not experiencing the extra load on my auger while overlapping holes at all using lazer 8 inch, but it's not a foot of snow either. the way mine cuts it doesn't slow down ever and i listen to each cut. listening allow you to know if you should lighten up the speed of the cut by lifting some so it takes less materiel per revolution. the weight or inertia might be another factor that the lazer and nils have over composite augers.

the flight system clears shavings and pulls water up to the knees. i never have to raise or lift any pressure from my auger or try to help it clear out any thing. after it's done making a hole it is clear of shavings. it does it so fast i try to shut the motor off on break thru so i don't fill the tops of boots and the front of my bibs with water that quickly turns to ice.

so it sounds like a combination of the krdill chipper blades and composite flight system that is ineffective of removing shavings fast enough and on it's own is the difference. the blades don't have a sharp edge all of the way across so the parts that don't just slow the cut and take more energy and create more heat. the flight can't remove the weight of the shavings on the back side of the blades and again creates a bigger load and uses more energy and creates more heat. when you lift to try to clear them the octane must see the load differences and tries to adjust for them. then there is the going straight back down the hole the same way it was cut each time you lift not being exact and what that may do to the system. the difference between this drill and the rest is the intelligent circuit system that tries to match the power output based on the load. you keep changing it with the kdrill.

what does your dewalt do in same conditions drilling that many overlapping holes?

don't you have a different auger from before the kdrill to use?

I also noticed a big tax on the DeWalt when it flooded the overlapping hole.  The difference was that the DeWalt just slow down and not smell very good.  :)    I've always been told that overlapping holes with a shaver blade (lazer) is not a good thing to do.  Maybe I should give that a try.  Was also considering stepping down to a 6" kdrill or Nils and drilling separate adjacent holes and then connecting them with an ice saw instead of overlapping.  This big hole game is a different beast with 24" of ice and I understand is a very niche thing that most people will never have to deal with. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 11, 2019, 10:22 AM
I have a fishs sporting ice saw.i cuts ice so easy.drill 3 or 4 holes and connect them.a few sweeps with that saw even in thick ice and done.overlapping holes with shaver blades doesnt work very good and i can see it shutting a drill down.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 11, 2019, 11:18 AM
i did it off and on with my 6 inch lazer for 7 years at least. i also used it to make ice top coolers to keep fish in. make partial holes and build an area that can be filled with water so they can breath in it. it finally acted up last season so i replaced it with new in the 6 inch lazer. it acted like one blade wasn't working so i installed new blades to see if it would help and it did not. i know it could be adjusted, but not sure how to make it match the other side. this season with this drill out i wanted to try fishing from a bigger hole and went with the 8 inch lazer in part because it has kickers built-in kickers to keep the blade pitch in tact. the 6 inch didn't have it.

you might think about going smaller to connect the dots for that sort of fishing or try another brand that is all steel with kickers like the lazer has on the 8 inch. i'm not sure if it's on the 7 inch. i don't think the nils has them.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: TickleStick on Feb 11, 2019, 11:58 AM
Is it good to run these batteries completely dead or have them completely charged?

My battery and charger should be here today....
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 11, 2019, 12:09 PM
Is it good to run these batteries completely dead or have them completely charged?

My battery and charger should be here today....
Keep them charged!!!!
Do not run them dead dead if possible.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 11, 2019, 12:35 PM
for more than 10 days storage they should be near 72%. when you know you'll use them before 10 days keep them ready. the charger left unplugged can discharge them for you. the bms will protect them from discharging too far, but there is no memory like ni-cads had.
you can use the app to monitor discharge percentage.

they won't be fully cycled for the first few charges, but do charge it before using it.

100% charge stress the cells out as does other things like extreme temps. you may not see or know the difference it makes until long term, but won't have a comparison either. with ridgid it's ok if you don't baby them as they will give you new ones and you just register the new battery(s) each time you get them to get the lsa on them.

my dji mavic pro drone batteries take care of this for me. 10 days is standard setting, but i can adjust how many days it takes for them to self discharge.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 11, 2019, 12:56 PM
i did it off and on with my 6 inch lazer for 7 years at least. i also used it to make ice top coolers to keep fish in. make partial holes and build an area that can be filled with water so they can breath in it. it finally acted up last season so i replaced it with new in the 6 inch lazer. it acted like one blade wasn't working so i installed new blades to see if it would help and it did not. i know it could be adjusted, but not sure how to make it match the other side. this season with this drill out i wanted to try fishing from a bigger hole and went with the 8 inch lazer in part because it has kickers built-in kickers to keep the blade pitch in tact. the 6 inch didn't have it.

you might think about going smaller to connect the dots for that sort of fishing or try another brand that is all steel with kickers like the lazer has on the 8 inch. i'm not sure if it's on the 7 inch. i don't think the nils has them.

"kickers"?   You mean the side support leg things?  Or is that something on the blades?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 11, 2019, 01:00 PM
goes from near outer end of each blade back to the augers shaft and welded. one for each blade. will make bending the flap that holds each blade much harder to do.

shows it on one side, but it is on both sides.
(https://i.postimg.cc/7C**censored**FLQ/screenshot-148.png) (http://postimg.cc/7C**censored**FLQ)

you can see the several blade designs strikemaster uses in here. the mora tends to walk and has less control before it gets started. that should make it hard to overlap holes. ht mini nero uses same design as the mora, so again not very stable getting started compared to the triangle shaped blades. i have a hand me down mora, but don't use it. the mora should be easier to sharpen from the looks of it. i think the finbore used the triangle shaped blades and used an offset handle was the only difference.
concave vs convex. concave gives more of a starting point than convex does. some have added a center point for their mora to get it under better control starting.
https://assets.fishusa.com/product_images/94097003/hand-auger-owners-manual.pdf
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: TickleStick on Feb 11, 2019, 07:49 PM
So I took mine out today, I got one of the batteries from ebay, it came 25% charged (one line) decided to go try it out.

I drilled probably 5-7 holes, it did cut out on me on every hole....

I will wait until I get the charger and another battery to try it again but if it does keep this up I will be exchanging it. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 11, 2019, 07:52 PM
I would expect it to cut out with 1 bar in the cold.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: TickleStick on Feb 11, 2019, 07:56 PM
I would expect it to cut out with 1 bar in the cold.

Agreed, that is why I will wait for the charger to come.

The ice was 14" with 4" of snow on top...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 11, 2019, 09:32 PM
batteries sold on ebay have zero warranty from ridgid. private sellers are not authorized retailers. if the seller told you differently, you should request your money back asap and maybe start a paypal dispute to hurry up the process. i called ridgid about this for someone asking in a pm. have to be careful with knock offs too.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 11, 2019, 09:44 PM
Are you sure it was 470º and not 460º?  Mine does that too, as soon as the app shows it go below 32º, it reads 460º.   I'm betting the app developer messed up the equation to calculate from Rankine (or maybe even Kelvin) to Fahrenheit.  There's a "459.67º" in that equation...  Probably an absolute value or order of operations error in their conversion equation (though I would expect the error at 0º and not 32º, making me think the RTD or thermocouple is measuring in Kelvin, but I digress).

Thank you for that explanation!  Some of the folks here clearly do not understand how the battery ratings are made.  Was really grating on my engineer brain.   ::)  "Ah" (Amp-hours) is a really dumb way to rate batteries in my opinion, it should be "Wh" (Watt-Hours) to be more accurate and take the operating voltage into account.

Also, battery "nominal" voltage is a bit stupid to me as well.  Our "18v" Ridgid tools are not really 18v.  Since an individual Li-Ion cell voltage typically varies from 3.6 volts when empty, to 4.2 volts at full charge, our tools are likely 5-cell (series) tools, and actually only at 18v when DEAD!  At full charge, they're more like 21 volts!  The 3Ah Octane battery would then be a 5-cell pack with the 5 cells wired in series, and the individual cells rated at 3,000 mAh (3Ah).  The Octane 9Ah pack would then be a 15-cell pack, with 3 parallel-wired groups of 5 cells wired in series.  Basically think of the 9Ah pack like 3 of the 3Ah packs hooked up to the drill all at once!

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I somewhat disagree.  Those bars are well behind the cutting edge and have little drag on a clean auger cutting the ice.  If the auger was threading through the ice instead of shaving it off, then maybe it would be an issue. But since the ice breaks apart when the edge hits it, those bars add little additional resistance.  Maybe a tiny bit, but not so much to be noticeable in my opinion.  They do provide additional support to the fighting that holds the blades in place, and keeping the geometry correct is pretty important!

I not talking as the cut comes off the blades..  I talking as your spinning the auger those vee bars pack the shaving that stack up in the whole and are not kicked out but the flighting fast enough .. which causes more and more bogging down of the auger.  TILL auger just stops.. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Feb 11, 2019, 09:57 PM
This thread is getting pretty lengthy lol...

If Clam ever got their gearbox working it would fix almost every issue mentioned in here...

I absolutely love my gearbox, as does my drills running it..

Even the octane doesn't want that much work to do..

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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Feb 12, 2019, 04:58 AM
Only shows it running up close at the very beginning.. 8" Lazer with a DeWalt...



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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Feb 12, 2019, 05:21 AM
he need extension on that back buster. lol 

agreed

if I had to use 8" holes I would probably buy or make a gear reduction deal like that.  with the 6" the drill is more than enough for me.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Feb 12, 2019, 05:21 AM
im waiting on the drill powered snowdog.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: TickleStick on Feb 12, 2019, 12:18 PM
How long does LSA take to receive after registering?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: badger132 on Feb 12, 2019, 01:10 PM
batteries sold on ebay have zero warranty from ridgid. private sellers are not authorized retailers. if the seller told you differently, you should request your money back asap and maybe start a paypal dispute to hurry up the process. i called ridgid about this for someone asking in a pm. have to be careful with knock offs too.

When I got mine, only batteries bought with a tool were eligible for the lifetime warranty, and you had to register them, which took some doing as I recall. I registered my first Ridgid 3/8 drill and batteries, and have had both the Nicad batteries and the drill replaced under warranty. I got them in the '90's, so when the batteries died, they gave me new lithium batteries and a new charger to replace them.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 12, 2019, 01:31 PM
How long does LSA take to receive after registering?

10 day less or more depending on amount of back log they got..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: tater140 on Feb 12, 2019, 01:53 PM
im waiting on the drill powered snowdog.
I have considered powering my kayak with it in the summer.  an old trolling motor shaft may be the ticket
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: TickleStick on Feb 12, 2019, 02:37 PM
Finally got my charger and extra battery, charging now...

If this does not work I think I will be making a exchange for a Milwaukee M18 fuel.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 12, 2019, 02:38 PM
I have considered powering my kayak with it in the summer.  an old trolling motor shaft may be the ticket
I can see it now. Lost my drill in the lake while trolling. Chuck came loose. LOL
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: badger132 on Feb 12, 2019, 02:44 PM



Done!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 12, 2019, 02:57 PM
I just hate it when a girl has a better shop then mine. What makes it worst is that she is craftier than I am also.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 12, 2019, 07:22 PM
Well, my drill seems to have recovered from my trip the other night.  A couple observations.  If I spin up the drill with the KDrill attached at a certain point the brakes activate (sounds terrible) it doesnt do this with a 1/2 drill bit in it.  Also I'm noticing some in/out play in the chuck.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 12, 2019, 07:34 PM
Well, my drill seems to have recovered from my trip the other night.  A couple observations.  If I spin up the drill with the KDrill attached at a certain point the brakes activate (sounds terrible) it doesnt do this with a 1/2 drill bit in it.  Also I'm noticing some in/out play in the chuck.


ive noticed that chuck play in mine too.back and fourth play started the second day i used it.now up and down play also.i thought it was my clam plate slop.lol.these drills are not made for augers.i already knew that but im running my octane until its done for.have you checked the fastener that holds the chuck on?it could be coming loose.looks like it wobbles some too.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: tater140 on Feb 12, 2019, 07:34 PM
I can see it now. Lost my drill in the lake while trolling. Chuck came loose. LOL
I think the LSA warranty should cover that shouldn't it?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: tater140 on Feb 12, 2019, 07:39 PM
My Octane has been great for me all year.  In approx. 150 holes it has cut out a couple of times.... I blip the trigger and away we go.  In fact the last time out it didn't do it once.   I haven't charged it once this year yet, and it still has 3 bars on the battery.  My drill is a 6" laser with new blades, and I use the kovac adapter.   Also no hang up at the bottom of the hole.  It hasn't seemed to matter if i start the auger spinning before contacting the ice, or starting it once it's on the ice.  For me the drill has been a great addition to the line-up.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Feb 12, 2019, 09:33 PM
there ya go tater.  7dollar harbor freight angle grinder and your in business. put clam plate on top then sell them the prototype. lol

weedeater shaft mite work for an outboard/drill rig?  if that cable will stand the torque.  probably not though?


whenever a thread comes up like this, it makes me think of this guy.


wonder if he has worn the blades off that thing yet. lol
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 12, 2019, 10:27 PM
When I got mine, only batteries bought with a tool were eligible for the lifetime warranty, and you had to register them, which took some doing as I recall. I registered my first Ridgid 3/8 drill and batteries, and have had both the Nicad batteries and the drill replaced under warranty. I got them in the '90's, so when the batteries died, they gave me new lithium batteries and a new charger to replace them.
same thing goes for the tool(s) also. if they quit supporting it they will replace it with a current version of it for free.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Feb 12, 2019, 11:28 PM
Well, my drill seems to have recovered from my trip the other night.  A couple observations.  If I spin up the drill with the KDrill attached at a certain point the brakes activate (sounds terrible) it doesnt do this with a 1/2 drill bit in it.  Also I'm noticing some in/out play in the chuck.



A 1/2" drill bit has almost no rotational inertia when compared to an ice auger, and I think it's confusing the "smart" electronics in the drill, causing the brake to activate when there's even slight negative acceleration while the auger bit is spinning freely at a nearly steady state/speed.

ive noticed that chuck play in mine too.back and fourth play started the second day i used it.now up and down play also.i thought it was my clam plate slop.lol.these drills are not made for augers.i already knew that but im running my octane until its done for.have you checked the fastener that holds the chuck on?it could be coming loose.looks like it wobbles some too.

In and out play on these types of hammer drill chucks is normal.  That's how the hammer part engages when in that setting.  Try this - without anything chucked into the drill, put the drill in hammer mode, set it on speed 1, and pull the trigger.  No "hammer" sound.  Now, carefully push in on the chuck with your hand, and you'll hear/feel the vibration from the "hammer".  The harder you push on it, the more the hammer effect happens.  That's because the "hammer" in this class hammer drill isn't really a hammer at all, it's the drive train riding on a grooved/ridged ring, bouncing along the way.  Sort of like a washboarded road.  The weight of the drill and the user pushing on it is what is providing the hammer force on these drills.

Also, a small amount of rotational backlash is normal as well.  It's gear slop in the transmission.

(Edited for more info.)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 13, 2019, 06:28 AM
Yeah I figured the extra load of the auger was causing the brake to engage even when spinning forward, just took me by surprise the first time. 

As long as the drill has the LSA, maybe I just run it until she dies.   i just want something that is reliable out on the ice though.  That is actually more important to me than being able to replace it over and over. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: teampar on Feb 13, 2019, 08:46 AM


  i just want something that is reliable out on the ice though.  That is actually more important to me than being able to replace it over and over.


Exactly right Dtro!! The argument for that drill is the LSA, having a reliable product that actually works consistently is way more important. If you have to keep replacing it alot of good that does you. All the drill/auger combo's  have their pro's/cons, but as many have said most drills are simply not made for running an auger. I would suspect that over time this will change.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 13, 2019, 08:53 AM
I think the quality control might be better next round. Might even consider people using them for Ice Augers. But It is hard to make a cordless drill work as well as a Gas motor. My last Eskimo was working fine after I had it 9 years. Now I bought another Eskimo gas auger which I hope last as long. 5 Year warranty on it so that is a big plus as well as the $284 I paid for it.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Feb 13, 2019, 09:15 AM

  i just want something that is reliable out on the ice though.  That is actually more important to me than being able to replace it over and over.


Exactly right Dtro!! The argument for that drill is the LSA, having a reliable product that actually works consistently is way more important. If you have to keep replacing it alot of good that does you. All the drill/auger combo's  have their pro's/cons, but as many have said most drills are simply not made for running an auger. I would suspect that over time this will change.

I can't argue with how the ridgid works WHEN it works Matt, it's just is the start, stop, start again that is a bit of nuisance.  When it engages and stays engaged, it pulls you right down through the ice, 2'+.  I too don't want to be sending these things back every other day, I just want it to work.  I really only bought it as a novelty for early ice and walking trips and because I needed a new homeowner drill, I would not have bought it without the lifetime on batteries.  I don't see the 10" jiffy going anywhere anytime soon, I hate an 8" hole when it's zero degrees and don't see me making any upgrades to this contraption.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Feb 13, 2019, 10:29 AM
One would think that with a drivetrain that supposedly can handle the 1300in/lbs the gearbox produces, it would be sufficiently strong enough. It is early but evidence suggests it may not. The exteneral forces may be too great and the construction inferior. I'm in the fence about returning mine. I knew going in that a drill isnt designed to be an ice auger. I know all drills can have problems but I'm not hearing this many issues with the Milwaukee users.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 13, 2019, 12:47 PM
If you don't got the gear box for the clam plate why use a 8 inch laser or 8 inch kdrill??   If your useing the octane and it's shuting off constantly on the kdrill of laser 8 inch that's not rigid fault it's yours for not relizing your over loading the drill . If you want the set up to work with a 8 inch bit get a nils plain and simple..  have not had a cut out with the 8 inch nils and octane combo. ..  I have had problem same as you with cUT out on thd smaller dtill the r86116 modEl with 750 inch pounds with the 8 inch nils bit.. when you read the manual the auto shut off is cause from over loads . If you start complaining about this to rigid there going to void your warranty..  cause your over loading the drill..  it's not there fault.. you got to read the booklet that came with the drill.. read and under stand whats going on there.. plain and simple there going to void your warranties.. for over loading the drill with the auger.. it's no one else fault except yours if your drill fails and you tell them your using it attached to a ice auger.. of course there going to void warranty and stick you with bill every time .. why do you think it's called a over load protection in there booklet.. it explain how to reset the drill after this happens and etc..  if you explain you fried your drill after reseting the overload saftey several times..  there going to void your warranty.. so why stick with the auger bit that will void your warranty?? Why not just get a nils and be done with it?? If it's about money thing about it they void your warranty??  it costs you money every time it breaks down!!  All caused by the auger bit so wich has less cost fixing drill or buying new bit in long run?? Or trying to get a gear box to run the laser or k drill??in the 8 inch ??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 13, 2019, 01:52 PM
chilly-willy, you need to chill-out a little. None of these guys need to hear that. Using a drill has been around a long time and when the Octane came out with 1300 "# everyone thought they would give it a try. I don't think everyone is having the problem so clearly it is some defective drives/batteries.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Feb 13, 2019, 01:57 PM
If you don't got the gear box for the clam plate why use a 8 inch laser or 8 inch kdrill??   If your useing the octane and it's shuting off constantly on the kdrill of laser 8 inch that's not rigid fault it's yours for not relizing your over loading the drill . If you want the set up to work with a 8 inch bit get a nils plain and simple..  have not had a cut out with the 8 inch nils and octane combo. ..  I have had problem same as you with cUT out on thd smaller dtill the r86116 modEl with 750 inch pounds with the 8 inch nils bit.. when you read the manual the auto shut off is cause from over loads . If you start complaining about this to rigid there going to void your warranty..  cause your over loading the drill..  it's not there fault.. you got to read the booklet that came with the drill.. read and under stand whats going on there.. plain and simple there going to void your warranties.. for over loading the drill with the auger.. it's no one else fault except yours if your drill fails and you tell them your using it attached to a ice auger.. of course there going to void warranty and stick you with bill every time .. why do you think it's called a over load protection in there booklet.. it explain how to reset the drill after this happens and etc..  if you explain you fried your drill after reseting the overload saftey several times..  there going to void your warranty.. so why stick with the auger bit that will void your warranty?? Why not just get a nils and be done with it?? If it's about money thing about it they void your warranty??  it costs you money every time it breaks down!!  All caused by the auger bit so wich has less cost fixing drill or buying new bit in long run?? Or trying to get a gear box to run the laser or k drill??in the 8 inch ??

3 seasons on my 8 inch K/milwaukee/clam plate (no gear box) combo.  Only cut out I've had is a dead battery.  Tried Nils, wouldn't cut anymore after half a season. Chipper blades of the K drill have gone 3 seasons without a sharpening. Is nils faster and more efficient? for sure, is it as maintenance free? Not in my opinion.  The cut out issues have nothing to do with the auger and everything to do with the drill.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: shiveringjoe on Feb 13, 2019, 03:22 PM
chilly-willy, you need to chill-out a little. None of these guys need to hear that. Using a drill has been around a long time and when the Octane came out with 1300 "# everyone thought they would give it a try. I don't think everyone is having the problem so clearly it is some defective drives/batteries.
I agree. Not going through the entire thread again but it seems like there are only a few people who are having issues (and VTMatt doesn't count...sorry Matt you have terrible luck with everything). I have an octane with a clam plate and an 8" lazer. It screams through the ice and I've only had one cutout when the blades grabbed at the bottom of a hole in weird ice. I cut around 100 holes this weekend in 16-18" of ice and the only issue was that I had ice covering my bibs up to my thighs. Just from observations with my drill versus my neighbors M18 fuel, the octane seems to spin a lot faster in speed 1 and therefore will cut faster, assuming everything else is working. Hopefully the problematic drills are due to something like an overprotective load circuit. I hope that my drill keeps working this well and I can continue to be glad that I saved a pile of money over other options for an 8" drill setup.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: CO_Dinky on Feb 14, 2019, 01:07 AM
Definitely not everyone is having problems!  It's just that typically, the ones WITH the problems are the most vocal about it, while the happy owners just go merrily along on their way without shouting it out from the rooftops.

Mine is plugging along VERY well on my 7" Lazer! I finally got mine to cut out today though.  :-\ But I practically sprained my wrist in order to do it.  ;) I had to run it down a hole in 10" of ice, and roughly jam it sideways while spinnniig at the end of the hole before breaking through.  Yeah, then it stopped...  :o ::)

Yeah I figured the extra load of the auger was causing the brake to engage even when spinning forward, just took me by surprise the first time. 

As long as the drill has the LSA, maybe I just run it until she dies.   i just want something that is reliable out on the ice though.  That is actually more important to me than being able to replace it over and over.

No doubt a reliable drill is all anyone here wants.  I'd probably be tearing my hair out if I was having the cut out issues too.

One would think that with a drivetrain that supposedly can handle the 1300in/lbs the gearbox produces, it would be sufficiently strong enough. It is early but evidence suggests it may not. The exteneral forces may be too great and the construction inferior. I'm in the fence about returning mine. I knew going in that a drill isnt designed to be an ice auger. I know all drills can have problems but I'm not hearing this many issues with the Milwaukee users.

Not quite.  Go back when the Milwaukee first came out.  There were plenty of issues then too.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: ieatanimals128 on Feb 14, 2019, 08:18 AM
I am also having a great experience running the Octane with an 8 inch Nils and the Kovac adapter. I've gone out a couple of times and had a couple of very minor stop starts. I am blown away at how fast I can get through the ice with this setup. I got into the drill and 9ah battery for $199, for me the value has been excellent.

Thank you to PIKEFISHERMAN- his initial videos got me turned on to this setup. I can't believe how easily I can get through the ice now- cutting holes has always been a chore for me even with a gas auger, it's exciting to be able to plow through the ice in seconds with no effort with the Octane/Nils setup.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Feb 14, 2019, 10:48 AM
Not quite.  Go back when the Milwaukee first came out.  There were plenty of issues then too.

Got any links? I see the handle/cracked case issue from last year but not finding anything beyond that, just curious what issues people had.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: FISHFORPIKE on Feb 14, 2019, 11:40 AM
My M18 has been flawless for 2 seasons.  8" Nils, 6" Finbore Micro, 7" Mini Nero.  Never had a cutout, Handle is usually user error, i.e.not getting on the drill squarely, or kepping it tight.  I have mine on with blue loctite on the threads this season and it has not been a problem at all.
Anyone can get a bad tool/battery - I hope that is what it is with the few problems, return them/exchange them; there are lots of HD stores around.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Feb 14, 2019, 06:01 PM
I am also having a great experience running the Octane with an 8 inch Nils and the Kovac adapter. I've gone out a couple of times and had a couple of very minor stop starts. I am blown away at how fast I can get through the ice with this setup. I got into the drill and 9ah battery for $199, for me the value has been excellent.

Thank you to PIKEFISHERMAN- his initial videos got me turned on to this setup. I can't believe how easily I can get through the ice now- cutting holes has always been a chore for me even with a gas auger, it's exciting to be able to plow through the ice in seconds with no effort with the Octane/Nils setup.
You're welcome. Tried my best to give it an honest opinion. Just had mine on the ice today. +/- 30" of ice, and it chewed through it like it wasn't there. 10D, with 10 mph wind. Did have one, and my first cutout. Thinking the battery was getting low, went from 2, down to 1 bar after my first hole. I drilled 7 after so Im guessing thats what it was. Just released the trigger and finished the last 5-6". So far so good. Still a beast!!!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Rather-B-Fishin on Feb 14, 2019, 08:36 PM
I never would have thought 22 pages for this thread...just hope ridged doesn't pull some BS move about LSA !
Yeah ...I know how would they know...
I love my octane...cuts out on rare occasion but I can not pattern it because it is so rare...the real experience will be this spring hammer drilling 5 inches of granite.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Feb 14, 2019, 09:11 PM
the real experience will be this spring hammer drilling 5 inches of granite.

Got that right..

I don't have an Octane, but I love my other three Ridgid drills.. They've never really glitched on the ice unless the battery was almost dead.. Never had overheating issues on the ice, but they start crying to stop when I'm running a half inch masonry bits drilling concrete anchors when it's 95F!

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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 15, 2019, 04:41 PM
Good deal out there.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HrZjTTJS/octane.png) (https://postimg.cc/HrZjTTJS)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: kayl on Feb 15, 2019, 09:09 PM
I feel bad for everyone who is having issues. Another day with no cut outs except for one that was user error (slowly feathering it through the crusty snow on top and not hitting it quick enough when I got to the ice).
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Mein4877 on Feb 15, 2019, 10:52 PM
Here's a link. Milwaukee has it's issues too.
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/195143467342989/permalink/1037569646433696/

Got any links? I see the handle/cracked case issue from last year but not finding anything beyond that, just curious what issues people had.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: RStock521 on Feb 16, 2019, 09:18 AM
Here's a link. Milwaukee has it's issues too.
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/195143467342989/permalink/1037569646433696/
Thanks for posting.  In reading reviews for the new 2804 on Milwaukee's website and a couple other places, they definitely seem to have issues and low ratings.  Overheating and sloppy chucks being the two that I've seen the most.  I've got the 2704 and the only issue I've had is a broken side handle.  I've got to send it in at the end of the season to get fixed under warranty.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 16, 2019, 02:12 PM
Tried pairing the battery while on the ice today, and the battery wont pair. I already paired it at home...so I know it worked.  Tried restarting my phone, unhooking the battery, forgetting the battery and re-syncing....won't even recognize it now. 3 bars on the battery. Figures.  ::)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Feb 16, 2019, 04:28 PM
Here's a link. Milwaukee has it's issues too.
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/195143467342989/permalink/1037569646433696/
Don’t have Facebook
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: shawno on Feb 16, 2019, 04:57 PM
Don’t have Facebook

I don’t have Facebook either, but I’m curious what the issues are with the Milwaukee drills. I am just about ready to pull the trigger on a combo set. I just received my Nils plate the other day.

Can anyone give us the Coles Notes version of the issues??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 16, 2019, 05:33 PM
Just type in your Browser search bar Milwalkee Fuel hammer drill problems and you can find Triggers,Motors and Overheating problems.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: jedhead on Feb 16, 2019, 05:42 PM
Just got the Milwaukee 2704-20 let u know how I make out. Unfortunately no manufacturer is perfect.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 16, 2019, 07:31 PM
Better yet just type in your browser Brand x-y-z problems!
Oh wait a minute they ALL have problems if ya look, especially when they are used for what they are not designed for. :whistle:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: SLAYERFISH on Feb 16, 2019, 07:43 PM
Been running M-18 2703 for several years now. 90% of the time I turn a 6" Mora. 6-9" of ice I get easy 100 holes on a 5AH batt. 

BUT when I turn an 8" Mora Im lucky if I get 25 holes.  Same 5AH batts.

I'd like to try a NILS and see how big a diff. it makes.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Feb 16, 2019, 08:11 PM
Ran my octane clamplate 7" lazer today. Was a long day chasing perch on deep flats eating bloodworms. There was 8-10"of hard ice. Had periodic fail to starts but overall I had less trouble than I've been having now that there is a little time on the drill. Was 5 degrees first thing warming up to 25. Auger ran good. Didnt count but I drilled at least 80 holes today. Nearly ran the drill dead. 1 bar left. Started slowing down for the last 10 holes but never quit. Since it has started to break in I've been having fewer and fewer issues.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: FISHFORPIKE on Feb 17, 2019, 04:15 AM
Better yet just type in your browser Brand x-y-z problems!
Oh wait a minute they ALL have problems if ya look, especially when they are used for what they are not designed for. :whistle:
Yep, they all have a few problems, mostly just a quality issue with a few tools here and there.
Not made for it?  Who says?  They are made for work.  You can stall one of these things out in wood or concrete too. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 17, 2019, 06:08 AM
Ran my octane clamplate 7" lazer today. Was a long day chasing perch on deep flats eating bloodworms. There was 8-10"of hard ice. Had periodic fail to starts but overall I had less trouble than I've been having now that there is a little time on the drill. Was 5 degrees first thing warming up to 25. Auger ran good. Didnt count but I drilled at least 80 holes today. Nearly ran the drill dead. 1 bar left. Started slowing down for the last 10 holes but never quit. Since it has started to break in I've been having fewer and fewer issues.
This is a good thing to hear. More use better performance. Kinda like breaking in a car, once it is broke in it gets better fuel mileage.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MC_angler on Feb 17, 2019, 09:49 AM
Been running M-18 2703 for several years now. 90% of the time I turn a 6" Mora. 6-9" of ice I get easy 100 holes on a 5AH batt. 

BUT when I turn an 8" Mora Im lucky if I get 25 holes.  Same 5AH batts.

I'd like to try a NILS and see how big a diff. it makes.

The diameter of your auger is the biggest factor. The area of an 8 inch circle is 50.265 square inches verus only 28.27 square inches for a 6 inch auger.  An 8 inch auger means you are cutting 78% more ice than a 6 inch auger.  Actually lines up really close to your real-world experience, only getting about 25%  of the holes cut using an 8 compared to a 6
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 17, 2019, 09:57 AM
I had my octane kdrill combo out again last night.  Drilled several holes in 25" of ice.  I'm convinced the overlapping thing is was what really kills it.  It just does not like that at all. It's not so much the overlapping, but rather the hole you are drilling, getting flooded with water and slush from the adjacent hole.  12" is no problem, but 25" is a killer.  What sealed the deal is that my buddy had his DeWalt 996 out there with a 9ah battery and it really struggled too.  It didn't cut out, but it smelled horrible and released some magic smoke. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Feb 17, 2019, 10:01 AM
I had my octane kdrill combo out again last night.  Drilled several holes in 25" of ice.  I'm convinced the overlapping thing is was what really kills it.  It just does not like that at all. It's not so much the overlapping, but rather the hole you are drilling, getting flooded with water and slush from the adjacent hole.  12" is no problem, but 25" is a killer.  What sealed the deal is that my buddy had his DeWalt 996 out there with a 9ah battery and it really struggled too.  It didn't cut out, but it smelled horrible and released some magic smoke.

Don't drill any hole all the way through till all the holes are almost done..

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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 17, 2019, 10:05 AM
Don't drill any hole all the way through till all the holes are almost done..

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That's what I've been doing, but easier said than done. :)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Feb 17, 2019, 10:08 AM

That's what I've been doing, but easier said than done. :)

Yeah, I know it's not easy, I don't care what brand auger..

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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: SLAYERFISH on Feb 17, 2019, 10:20 AM
The diameter of your auger is the biggest factor. The area of an 8 inch circle is 50.265 square inches verus only 28.27 square inches for a 6 inch auger.  An 8 inch auger means you are cutting 78% more ice than a 6 inch auger.  Actually lines up really close to your real-world experience, only getting about 25%  of the holes cut using an 8 compared to a 6

Do the math, huh? ;D
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 17, 2019, 02:13 PM
Cant argue with the power and longevity of batteries. 

I didn't have issues until the 25th or so hole, then I had a cutout when I hit the trigger.  Bluetooth wouldn't work again.  Took hours for it to reconnect last night....anyone else have issues pairing in the cold, or pairing at all?  Even inside, it takes forever to connect, and even longer to show the battery % even when the batteries are room temp. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: stinkyfingers on Feb 17, 2019, 03:31 PM
Been running M-18 2703 for several years now. 90% of the time I turn a 6" Mora. 6-9" of ice I get easy 100 holes on a 5AH batt. 

BUT when I turn an 8" Mora Im lucky if I get 25 holes.  Same 5AH batts.

I'd like to try a NILS and see how big a diff. it makes.
Slayer...I ran an 8" blue Nils under a Clam plate and M18 2704 last year and it cut real silky but kinda precious when some dirty ice came along. This year I'm running a 7" Nero under a Kovac under an Octane drill and while not quite as silky as the Nils, it's a burner. Cheap, light and tough, like me except for the light part.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 17, 2019, 04:21 PM
So i think i know what causes my new symptoms of cutting out mid hole.today while cutting weak slush ice then a small gap of water then solid ice it wold quit when it hit the 2nd layer of black ice.the jolt going from easy soft ice to hard ice is making it cut out.yesterday when the ice was harder it never quit but had the fail to start deal.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 17, 2019, 06:09 PM
So i think i know what causes my new symptoms of cutting out mid hole.today while cutting weak slush ice then a small gap of water then solid ice it wold quit when it hit the 2nd layer of black ice.the jolt going from easy soft ice to hard ice is making it cut out.yesterday when the ice was harder it never quit but had the fail to start deal.

Slushy ice can cause huge strains on the drill....have to clear the slush as much as possible. My Ion would stall out in thick slush too, and that had some decent torque.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: spoofhoundicefisher on Feb 17, 2019, 06:42 PM
Better yet just type in your browser Brand x-y-z problems!
Oh wait a minute they ALL have problems if ya look, especially when they are used for what they are not designed for. :whistle:

what are they designed for then.  paper weight. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 17, 2019, 06:43 PM
Right.im thinking its not guys different augers combos at all.its different ice conditions.i was on the same lake with same auger and yesterday the ice was hard and the drill worked great besides the fail to start.today the ice was mushy in some spots and almost double layer and it cut out a bunch of times.drill not hot either.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: MT204 on Feb 17, 2019, 07:12 PM
what are they designed for then.  paper weight.
By reading some of these posts some feel that way.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: TickleStick on Feb 17, 2019, 11:10 PM
I traded mine it for the m18, problem has been fixed...


Just sayin
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: hays47 on Feb 18, 2019, 02:39 PM
Went to test set up today. 7 inch strikemaster lazer auger, mounted on clamplate ,with extension. Local pond had 2 inches of cloud ice and about 4 inches of hard stuff. Standing on dock about a foot above actual ice. I cut 10 holes as fast as I could.
Three times I had to reverse to get auger back up. The Ridgid Octane had no cutouts and actually no problems whatsoever.
I tried starting the drill high , resting upon the ice. Slow start and fast start. Every time it ripped right through.

To prevent drilling at any kind angle. I have bolted on a bullseye level. So that I am drilling at 90 degrees to the ice every time. Don't know if that helps but it certainly did not hurt anything.

With all the posts about troubles being had. Was concerned I made a bad investment. Not so thing passed with flying colors and with a 6 AH battery. Which still indicated full charge at completion of test.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Feb 18, 2019, 03:08 PM
Went to test set up today. 7 inch strikemaster lazer auger, mounted on clamplate ,with extension. Local pond had 2 inches of cloud ice and about 4 inches of hard stuff. Standing on dock about a foot above actual ice. I cut 10 holes as fast as I could.
Three times I had to reverse to get auger back up. The Ridgid Octane had no cutouts and actually no problems whatsoever.
I tried starting the drill high , resting upon the ice. Slow start and fast start. Every time it ripped right through.

To prevent drilling at any kind angle. I have bolted on a bullseye level. So that I am drilling at 90 degrees to the ice every time. Don't know if that helps but it certainly did not hurt anything.

With all the posts about troubles being had. Was concerned I made a bad investment. Not so thing passed with flying colors and with a 6 AH battery. Which still indicated full charge at completion of test.

Leave the setup outside for an hour in temps around 10-20 degrees and then try the test again.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 18, 2019, 03:12 PM
Mine worked great at 10 holes too.after 200+ holes you will have either a fail to start or cutout im betting.even with a few glitches here and there im happy with its ice shredding performance with a 8” mora.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 18, 2019, 03:12 PM
 I did some testing today.   
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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Feb 18, 2019, 03:30 PM
I did some testing today. 
i wouldnt be happy with that drill.mine has cutout but ive never had to take the battery off.mine never gets warm either but im only drilling about 8” of ice.i know my drill cuts out while cutting soft ice then hits hard good ice but thats expected because of a slight bind.its great to use a drill but i wont ever get rid of my jiffy.ice almost 2ft is going to be hard on any of the drills.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 18, 2019, 04:02 PM
Dtro have you tried same thing with a nils 8 inch see how many holes you get?? Compared to that of the 8 inch k drill??  Our ice here is no way 21 inch maybe 8 or so max inches.. I am wondering if it's strain on drill?? And it's not cooling off?? Cause we're smelling a little electrial burn smell..  when it cuts out some times.. my smaller drill had a smell when I put the 8 inch nils on it.. I am wondering if it's load on the drill or some thing similar..  that causes the circuit to trip?  if you noticed you got around 8 holes before it shut off?  then got one extra after resting it..  I am thinkin temp related??  Cause of extrem load like the the motors not cooling fast enough??   Could try it again and let drill sit 30 minutes between see if you get more holes.. then the last video after it trips.. I wonder if they under sizeds the cooling fan?? That's in the motor??
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Ice Scratcher on Feb 18, 2019, 05:03 PM
If you guys want to cool your drills off you should run them without a load for a little bit, that way the integrated cooling fan can work. Just stopping for a second and going again isn't cooling them down.. Just run it with the bit off the ice..

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Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 18, 2019, 05:38 PM
If you guys want to cool your drills off you should run them without a load for a little bit, that way the integrated cooling fan can work. Just stopping for a second and going again isn't cooling them down.. Just run it with the bit off the ice..

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Sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 18, 2019, 06:25 PM
If you guys want to cool your drills off you should run them without a load for a little bit, that way the integrated cooling fan can work. Just stopping for a second and going again isn't cooling them down.. Just run it with the bit off the ice..

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You get what I am saying good point!!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: kayl on Feb 18, 2019, 08:38 PM
I had yet another flawless day on Lake Winnebago with about 2' of ice. :-)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Rather-B-Fishin on Feb 18, 2019, 10:08 PM
get the 9 amp hour battery and it should fix the issues. fyi I have the Ridgid sawzaw and it will cut out if I really work it and it heats up...no biggie wait 2 seconds
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 19, 2019, 06:36 AM
get the 9 amp hour battery and it should fix the issues. fyi I have the Ridgid sawzaw and it will cut out if I really work it and it heats up...no biggie wait 2 seconds

As I showed in the video I posted,   I have the 9ah battery, and also you can see that once it starts cutting out, it keeps happening over and over so its more than just waiting 2 seconds.  In fact I waited an hour the other day and it didn't help.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Sharp Nils on Feb 19, 2019, 06:55 AM
 My Ridgid Octane with 9 amp hr battery has a around 1500 holes punched with a 8" Nils so far this season.   Currently drilling through 28" of ice and not once has it overheated and stopped cutting but I'm not cutting 20 holes all at once.

  While the drill/auger option is a legit one for normal fishing situations.   Drilling hole after hole to the point of overheating the drill as shown in Darren's demonstration is this combos limiting factor.   If the drill shuts down from overheating, you should stop drilling till the drill cools down on its own.  Yes you could spin the drill with no load and let its internally fan cool it but I wouldn't do that with an auger attached.    Removing the battery to reboot the shutdown and continuing on to drill more holes is going to ruin the drill.  The video is useful but I think it'll need new dilithium crystals sooner then later. :)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 19, 2019, 07:03 AM
I agree with what you say Frank.   With the way i fish, I set up in one spot and drill 12 holes.   If the tool won't do that for me without shutting down, then it's clearly the wrong tool.   I'm going to have to use something else I guess.  :(


Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 19, 2019, 11:14 AM
I agree with what you say Frank.   With the way i fish, I set up in one spot and drill 12 holes.   If the tool won't do that for me without shutting down, then it's clearly the wrong tool.   I'm going to have to use something else I guess.  :(


Before you go and sell it what about a ice kicker plate or a clam gear box?? Might take the major strain off motor ?? I think it's 2:1 gear reduction so the fan would spin faster and motor higher rms wich might solve the problem?? Good way to find out is find some one with  gear box clam plate and try it out??  With your drill and your auger bit..  or buy a ice kicker off ebay or amazon.. any how trying to save Ya by suggesting to borrow instead of buy.. you know the gig..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 19, 2019, 06:57 PM
Just a suggestion?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/clam-plate-geared-adapter-made-by-ice-kicker-adapter-only/163495362728?hash=item26111540a8:g:F6wAAOSwXHxb9uJC (https://www.ebay.com/itm/clam-plate-geared-adapter-made-by-ice-kicker-adapter-only/163495362728?hash=item26111540a8:g:F6wAAOSwXHxb9uJC)

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Feb 20, 2019, 10:49 AM
Just a suggestion?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/clam-plate-geared-adapter-made-by-ice-kicker-adapter-only/163495362728?hash=item26111540a8:g:F6wAAOSwXHxb9uJC (https://www.ebay.com/itm/clam-plate-geared-adapter-made-by-ice-kicker-adapter-only/163495362728?hash=item26111540a8:g:F6wAAOSwXHxb9uJC)

The k drill is built to spin fast I don't think it would work with the kicker.  My friend has a kicker and it is slow, it is nice and built really strong though.


Maybe a mud mixer or super hawg type tool would get the job done.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Feb 20, 2019, 05:31 PM
 friend that was with me last night had a lazer6" and the ridged 750"# model.  his was cutting out a bunch.  we put it on my jiffy 6 and it didn't cut out at all.  the extra torque needed to run the lazer seemed to cause its issues.  I realize its a smaller drill but most likely the same problem.  I couldn't be happier with mine so far.  only a couple cut outs but never had to remove battery yet.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 20, 2019, 07:15 PM
I'm thinking I'd like to try exchanging my drill out, perhaps a swap would help my issues.   Problem is that there is literally non in stock within 100 miles of me (bare tool).  Basically it's all in stock bundled with a small battery now.    Has anyone ever had any luck exchanging a bare tool for a combo unit and just swapping out the tool in the combo? 

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Feb 21, 2019, 05:29 AM
I'm thinking I'd like to try exchanging my drill out, perhaps a swap would help my issues.   Problem is that there is literally non in stock within 100 miles of me (bare tool).  Basically it's all in stock bundled with a small battery now.    Has anyone ever had any luck exchanging a bare tool for a combo unit and just swapping out the tool in the combo?
All you can do is try. Worst they can say is no. It's like playing the Lottery,if you don't buy in you can't win.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: JSONICE on Feb 21, 2019, 07:17 AM
The k drill is built to spin fast I don't think it would work with the kicker.  My friend has a kicker and it is slow, it is nice and built really strong though.


Maybe a mud mixer or super hawg type tool would get the job done.

Actually, Kdrill recommends setting the drill at its lowest speed..

Proper Drill Setup
1) Ensure that you have an adequate drill, meaning a half inch chuck and at least 725 in/lbs of torque.
2) Ensure the drill is set to its DRILL mode, not ratchet
or hammer.
3) Ensure the drill is set to its LOWEST (slowest) gear
setting.
4) Ensure your drill has a side-arm attachment so you
can maintain a secure two-handed hold on the drill.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Feb 21, 2019, 07:47 AM
Actually, Kdrill recommends setting the drill at its lowest speed..

Proper Drill Setup
1) Ensure that you have an adequate drill, meaning a half inch chuck and at least 725 in/lbs of torque.
2) Ensure the drill is set to its DRILL mode, not ratchet
or hammer.
3) Ensure the drill is set to its LOWEST (slowest) gear
setting.
4) Ensure your drill has a side-arm attachment so you
can maintain a secure two-handed hold on the drill.

The slowest speed of the drill is much faster than the ice kicker gearbox.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Feb 21, 2019, 08:03 AM
I'm thinking I'd like to try exchanging my drill out, perhaps a swap would help my issues.   Problem is that there is literally non in stock within 100 miles of me (bare tool).  Basically it's all in stock bundled with a small battery now.    Has anyone ever had any luck exchanging a bare tool for a combo unit and just swapping out the tool in the combo?
Honestly, from what I’ve seen I don’t see where your Octane has a problem. I do agree that the Octane paired with your KDrill, with your style of fishing isn’t a good combo. Like you mentioned, drilling multiple sets of overlapping holes is the problem, causing your drill to go into protection mode. I’m well over 500 holes with my Octane/Nils combo, and have experienced no cutouts. I’m up to 30” of ice, and it eats it’s. Had it out in -15D weather unprotected, still no problem. The protection mode is a love/hate relationship. I love it, I personally would not like pushing a drill to the point where it smells like it’s burning, like you referenced with the dewalt.  Just my opinion, but if I was in your scenario fishing for sturgeon, I’d pick up a 4.5-6” auger, and an ice saw. Drill 3-4 holes, connect with the ice saw and your off.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 21, 2019, 12:36 PM
I went ahead and exchanged my drill.  Not only did they allow me to swap out a combo unit, they even let me keep the bag.  :)

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-OCTANE-LIthium-Ion-Cordless-Brushless-1-2-in-Hammer-Drill-Kit-with-OCTANE-Battery-Charger-and-Contractor-Bag-R8611506SB/307490841
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 21, 2019, 01:46 PM
so you got an entire kit for the replacement drill? sounds like hd. don't forget to register it and the charger and battery asap.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 21, 2019, 01:50 PM
No, they just swapped drills for me and kept the charger and battery, but said "here why don't you keep the bag".  I was like ok sure.  :)

I already got the LSA swapped too.

Oh, by the way,  this kit I linked is $159 and I seen a bare 9ah batteries on the shelf on sale for $99, so $259 isn't a horrible deal for the drill, 2 batteries (9ah and 3ah), and a bag.





Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: gamefisher on Feb 21, 2019, 02:12 PM
No, they just swapped drills for me and kept the charger and battery, but said "here why don't you keep the bag".  I was like ok sure.  :)

I already got the LSA swapped too.

Oh, by the way,  this kit I linked is $159 and I seen a bare 9ah batteries on the shelf on sale for $99, so $259 isn't a horrible deal for the drill, 2 batteries (9ah and 3ah), and a bag.

Related, has anybody bought the $39 mini radio that pairs with this battery?  Thoughts?  I bought the phone charger, works great.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Feb 27, 2019, 06:23 PM
no, but iwas wondering what toys I could buy to run!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: kayl on Feb 27, 2019, 06:26 PM
Related, has anybody bought the $39 mini radio that pairs with this battery?  Thoughts?  I bought the phone charger, works great.

I haven't bought the radio, but I did get this light and like it a lot. It's great for picking up after dark on the ice and can hang in a shanty.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-GEN5X-Cordless-Flood-Light-Tool-Only-with-Detachable-Light-R8694620B/207041056
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Feb 27, 2019, 06:42 PM
I bet that's bright!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: kayl on Feb 27, 2019, 06:53 PM
I bet that's bright!

The best part is that it's dimmable. :)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: WYOBEAR on Feb 27, 2019, 07:20 PM
I have the light also and it's great.   Lasts forever and is pretty dam bright! I would like to get the radio at some point also. 
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Feb 27, 2019, 07:26 PM
Related, has anybody bought the $39 mini radio that pairs with this battery?  Thoughts?  I bought the phone charger, works great.


I bought it and returned it your better off with a blue version truthfully.. the only way to hook phone to it is a cord..  if cord breaks your sol .. now blue tooth you can play music threw it and listen to the radio.. there are free apps that play radio stations etc threw blue tooth..  I find it more bang for the buck..  by the way the band that holds your mp3 player..  not phone in the back is way to small for a phone.. like a galaxy type phone or I phone..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Feb 27, 2019, 08:00 PM
no, but i was wondering what toys I could buy to run!

i have these and take the light canon for spot checking and the panel light for hub fishing.
2500 lumen spot, adjustable, dual power
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-GEN5X-18-Volt-Dual-Power-Light-Cannon-R8694220B/207041035

2500 lumen panel, adjustable, hybrid. i have the tripod, but you can buy the light with out it.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-Hybrid-Panel-Light-Kit-with-7-ft-Universal-Stand-with-1-2-0-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-R8694221SB/302905073

their fan is nice too.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Cordless-Hybrid-Fan-Tool-Only-R860720B/205907844
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: shiveringjoe on Feb 27, 2019, 08:40 PM
I can't think of any ice fishing application... but the ridgid 4 angle grinder is pretty impressive. We bought one of the 5 tool kits for work and added the 4.5" angle grinder. Ended up using it far more than I would have expected and it has held up very well.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: GBguy on Feb 27, 2019, 10:09 PM
I just picked up the $159 combo with the hammer drill, charger, 3.0 ah battery and contractor bag, going to pair it with a 6" strike master auger. For my style of fishing where I usually fish alone, park in a spot and move maybe once or twice drilling 3-4 holes per spot, it should do just fine. Gotta love the LSA, too.

Going to take it out tomorrow and give it a whirl, should have 18" of ice or so to drill through, should be a good test.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Feb 28, 2019, 06:42 AM
I think this light would be awesome for ice fishing/shanty.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-LED-Mat-Light-Tool-Only-R8694520B/306898364?keyword=ridgid+mat+light&semanticToken=2021000000+%3E++st%3A%7Bridgid+mat+light%7D%3Ast+cnn%3A%7B2%3A0%7D+cnr%3A%7B8%3A1%7D+cnb%3A%7B9%3A1%7D+oos%3A%7B0%3A1%7D+br%3A%7Bridgid%2Cmat%7D%3Abr+pt%3A%7Blight%7D%3Apt+dln%3A%7B582637%7D+tgr%3A%7BNo+stage+info%7D+qu%3A%7Bmat+light%7D%3Aqu
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: badger132 on Feb 28, 2019, 08:58 AM
I can't think of any ice fishing application... but the ridgid 4 angle grinder is pretty impressive. We bought one of the 5 tool kits for work and added the 4.5" angle grinder. Ended up using it far more than I would have expected and it has held up very well.

Maybe cleaning those frozen fish?

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: smitty on Feb 28, 2019, 01:16 PM
So.. Finally got to try my new Rigid 18v octane brushless hammer drill with the 8" Nils.
I was in Maine last week there was 22" of solid ice this set up went through the ice like I was drilling through water.
It beat a 2 different gas powered Jiffy augers hands down I mean no contest at all.
Holes were drilled fast the set up is lite ( at least lighter than a gas auger) it did slip of the chuck twice but little extra torque when tightening fixed that problem. I was up there for 5 days never charged the battery. When a checked at the end of the trip the battery was 1/2 charged. Great drill and auger combo highly recommended!!!!!!

smitty :tipup:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: GBguy on Feb 28, 2019, 01:18 PM
Smitty was that the 9.0 ah battery? Any guess on how many holes you drilled?
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: smitty on Feb 28, 2019, 07:53 PM
Smitty was that the 9.0 ah battery? Any guess on how many holes you drilled?
Yes it was the 9.0 Ah battery. Not sure on the hole count.

smitty :tipup:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: GBguy on Feb 28, 2019, 09:16 PM
For anyone still considering this combo, I got my Ridgid Octane 1300 in/lb hammer drill with 3.0 ah battery out tonight and wanted to report on its performance. I paired it with a 6" black strikemaster auger bit and drilled 27 holes through 17" of ice. I drilled the first 6 holes at around 4:45, then let the drill sit until about 8:00 and wanted to see how many holes I could drill. Drilled 21 more holes and the drill quit on the 22nd hole. Outside temperature was 15-20 degrees. I am 100% pleased with this and cant believe I didn't switch sooner!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Rather-B-Fishin on Mar 01, 2019, 09:17 PM
GB ...now get the 9amphr battery and you can drill to ice out on same charge!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: ICEHOLE on Mar 02, 2019, 06:21 AM
I have a ridged x4 (returned it for cut out problems) got the x5 brushless with 4ah batteries. seemed to work good for a season with mora 8". Then this year is has been cutting out really bad, both batteries even fully charged.. sent the drill for warranty and picked up the new Octane. right out of the box, first attempt on my old 4ah batteries it shut down after quarter turn! So now im thinking it must be my batteries! Ridgid sends me 2 new 4ah batteries..give them a full charge and SAME PROBLEM! So now I have 2 Ridgid drill (x5 and octane) 4-4ah batteries and I get quarter turns out of every tool...Not sure what the deal is. Mora cuts great when it will spin..but I am about to give up on ridged.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lefty2053 on Mar 02, 2019, 06:36 AM
I have a ridged x4 (returned it for cut out problems) got the x5 brushless with 4ah batteries. seemed to work good for a season with mora 8". Then this year is has been cutting out really bad, both batteries even fully charged.. sent the drill for warranty and picked up the new Octane. right out of the box, first attempt on my old 4ah batteries it shut down after quarter turn! So now im thinking it must be my batteries! Ridgid sends me 2 new 4ah batteries..give them a full charge and SAME PROBLEM! So now I have 2 Ridgid drill (x5 and octane) 4-4ah batteries and I get quarter turns out of every tool...Not sure what the deal is. Mora cuts great when it will spin..but I am about to give up on ridged.
You would think that luck had 2 phases. Good and Bad but it looks like you only got the later. Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Mar 02, 2019, 07:16 AM
everyone needs tto read the drill chuck section of the manual.  I have ran into 3 guys that had problems with chuck coming undone.  read the manual and you will see why.  all three were tightening by holding chuck and hitting trigger.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Mar 02, 2019, 09:18 AM
I have a ridged x4 (returned it for cut out problems) got the x5 brushless with 4ah batteries. seemed to work good for a season with mora 8". Then this year is has been cutting out really bad, both batteries even fully charged.. sent the drill for warranty and picked up the new Octane. right out of the box, first attempt on my old 4ah batteries it shut down after quarter turn! So now im thinking it must be my batteries! Ridgid sends me 2 new 4ah batteries..give them a full charge and SAME PROBLEM! So now I have 2 Ridgid drill (x5 and octane) 4-4ah batteries and I get quarter turns out of every tool...Not sure what the deal is. Mora cuts great when it will spin..but I am about to give up on ridged.

the octane drill likes octane batteries even tho they say it works with all batteries. i already tested it with gen5x 4amp batteries and it didn't cut anything like the octane 9amp battery does. i also tested the gen5x 780 inch pound brushed drill with octane 9amp battery and all of the combinations failed except for the octane/octane matched system. i tested it on a brand new lazer 8' lazer so i know the blades were new and cutting well. 

a year ago, i also tested my gen5x with gen5x batteries on a 8" lazer with dull blades someone walking onto the ice had and couldn't cut one hole with it. you can listen to the drill motor to know whats going on. i could hear the motor struggle hard with the dull blades on the 8" laser.
for kicks, i tried a 6" lazer on a ridgid 12volt drill on my 6" lazer with sharp blades and it did what i expected it to and that was cut out with the results like your having now.

since you have the octane drill, you'll need the octane battery. it's not to late to return the drill and get the octane drill with 3 amp battery and charger kit for 160$. you'll be surprised the difference it makes when you use the matched system. i wouldn't want the 3amp battery, but it's almost free and comes with charger and a contractors bag.
remember you have 90 days to use anything you buy from hd.

the drill is 150$ tool only. the drill, 3 amp octane battery and charger and bag is 10$ more to try it out. you already have the 150$ into the drill. you missed the free drill with the 9amp battery/charger for 160$ deal that lasted nearly 3 month. xmas is always best time to buy tools. they do price match so if you buy the 9 amp drill kit and keep the drill, you can watch for a price drop on the 9 amp battery/charger kit to see if it goes on sale and make them match the price. i did just that and they gave me back 40$. you need the battery to be sold in a kit to be able to qualify the lsa and the charger/battery is a kit. batteries sold by themselves are not a kit and have only a 3 year warranty.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: badger132 on Mar 02, 2019, 10:28 AM
The battery packs inside are made of smaller cells in series and parallel. They put enough in series to get the required voltage (eg. 20V). Each battery then has so many Amp*hours of energy. It also has a maximum amperage it can supply when fully charged. They add more sets in parallel to get the capacity up. Each set increases the total energy proportionately, and increases the max current the pack can supply by the same amount. While there are electronics in the battery and the drill that may also limit, I have noticed that my larger packs have more torque (which comes from more amps) than the smaller ones. I have 1.5, 3, and 4.5 batteries from different tools, and this seems to track. I have a 5 inch laser and an old gen5 drill, which is no where close to the torque an 8 inch drill must need, but I am betting it is close to the limit based on the number of problems people have. If you can't get it to work with an 8 inch auger, get the largest battery for more current capacity. If that fails, I would either step down a size, or get one of the less aggressive cutting bits, like a k-drill, or a lower torque bit, like a Nils.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: chilly-willy on Mar 02, 2019, 10:52 AM
or get one of the less aggressive cutting bits, like a k-drill, or a lower torque bit, like a Nils.


Was thinking same thing but to get only a 1/4 turn on the cut and have it shut off is rediculous. For the person I am referring to..   I have not had this problem yet except on my small 750 inch pouND drill it was not a big deal.. the octane is going strong with a nils bit .. but I would wait till later to return it  maybe give them sone time to get the bugs worked out?? You start swamping them with extra work that's when more mistakes happen..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: ICEHOLE on Mar 06, 2019, 06:46 AM
the octane drill likes octane batteries even tho they say it works with all batteries. i already tested it with gen5x 4amp batteries and it didn't cut anything like the octane 9amp battery does. i also tested the gen5x 780 inch pound brushed drill with octane 9amp battery and all of the combinations failed except for the octane/octane matched system. i tested it on a brand new lazer 8' lazer so i know the blades were new and cutting well. 

a year ago, i also tested my gen5x with gen5x batteries on a 8" lazer with dull blades someone walking onto the ice had and couldn't cut one hole with it. you can listen to the drill motor to know whats going on. i could hear the motor struggle hard with the dull blades on the 8" laser.
for kicks, i tried a 6" lazer on a ridgid 12volt drill on my 6" lazer with sharp blades and it did what i expected it to and that was cut out with the results like your having now.

since you have the octane drill, you'll need the octane battery. it's not to late to return the drill and get the octane drill with 3 amp battery and charger kit for 160$. you'll be surprised the difference it makes when you use the matched system. i wouldn't want the 3amp battery, but it's almost free and comes with charger and a contractors bag.
remember you have 90 days to use anything you buy from hd.

the drill is 150$ tool only. the drill, 3 amp octane battery and charger and bag is 10$ more to try it out. you already have the 150$ into the drill. you missed the free drill with the 9amp battery/charger for 160$ deal that lasted nearly 3 month. xmas is always best time to buy tools. they do price match so if you buy the 9 amp drill kit and keep the drill, you can watch for a price drop on the 9 amp battery/charger kit to see if it goes on sale and make them match the price. i did just that and they gave me back 40$. you need the battery to be sold in a kit to be able to qualify the lsa and the charger/battery is a kit. batteries sold by themselves are not a kit and have only a 3 year warranty.
The batteries IS what I thought may be the problem...i do find it odd my x5 does the same thing on the original and new batteries (x5 4ah)..i asked ridgid if maybe a bigger battery or needing and octane battery was needed. they said no. Octane battery just has blue tooth feature, and the higher AH batteries should just be a larger "gas tank" and not direct impact on performance
on the fence about trying a 9ah octane battery or just getting Milwaukee...im thinking the later..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Mar 06, 2019, 07:16 AM
Since I have stopped worrying about keeping the battery warm and started leaving it in the garage with the drill I've been having almost no issues. I did have two cutouts yesterday related to low battery. I was on 1 bar of battery and had drilled out a large flat when it happened. Drill was starting to slow down so I knew I was nearing the end. I dont hold that against it.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: ICEHOLE on Mar 06, 2019, 08:27 AM
Since I have stopped worrying about keeping the battery warm and started leaving it in the garage with the drill I've been having almost no issues. I did have two cutouts yesterday related to low battery. I was on 1 bar of battery and had drilled out a large flat when it happened. Drill was starting to slow down so I knew I was nearing the end. I dont hold that against it.
Again, I have cut outs on first pull of trigger on 2 BRAND NEW drills and 2 BRAND new batteries after FULL CHARGE.
I am starting to convince myself the "new" technology is ridgid trying to keep up with warranty claims from ice fisherman and making them so they CANT break because they wont work hard enough..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: John_BZ on Mar 06, 2019, 10:51 AM
Again, I have cut outs on first pull of trigger on 2 BRAND NEW drills and 2 BRAND new batteries after FULL CHARGE.
I am starting to convince myself the "new" technology is ridgid trying to keep up with warranty claims from ice fisherman and making them so they CANT break because they wont work hard enough..

So did I. I even started a ridgid octane issues thread a couple months ago. My first drill would not operate at all for more than 1 hole without pulling the battery. Beginning post 18 in the thread I began experiencing fail to starts. With the same drill number 2 I have not experienced another fail to start in over 15 trips. Occasional cut outs mainly when the battery gets weak.
https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=364491.msg3911499#msg3911499 (https://www.iceshanty.com/ice_fishing/index.php?topic=364491.msg3911499#msg3911499)
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: ICEHOLE on Mar 06, 2019, 11:20 AM
just emailed them. AGAIN. I nicely asked them to upgrade my batteries or I will be returning it. I am sick of chasing this, and having my Milwaukee buddies harassing me..
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Mar 07, 2019, 07:36 PM
Mine still cuts out randonly but I found if I lift the auger up a little, it helps....I think their protection needs tweaking...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: Gills-only on Mar 07, 2019, 07:48 PM
just emailed them. AGAIN. I nicely asked them to upgrade my batteries or I will be returning it. I am sick of chasing this, and having my Milwaukee buddies harassing me..
.   The bigger batteries make a big difference the 9 ah and the 12 ah on the Milwaukee drills don’t know why they wouldn’t on the Ridgid
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: lowaccord66 on Mar 08, 2019, 01:19 AM
3 seasons on my 8 inch K/milwaukee/clam plate (no gear box) combo.  Only cut out I've had is a dead battery.  Tried Nils, wouldn't cut anymore after half a season. Chipper blades of the K drill have gone 3 seasons without a sharpening. Is nils faster and more efficient? for sure, is it as maintenance free? Not in my opinion.  The cut out issues have nothing to do with the auger and everything to do with the drill.

You should see mine.  One has a bent powerpoint, dent in the cutting head, the flights have most of the paint knocked off and the shaft is actually a bit bent and still drills.  I know people have issues with the nils but I've used my a lot and never had an issue.  Did notice when dull...they will eat a fuel battery up fast.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Mar 08, 2019, 11:09 AM
You should see mine.  One has a bent powerpoint, dent in the cutting head, the flights have most of the paint knocked off and the shaft is actually a bit bent and still drills.  I know people have issues with the nils but I've used my a lot and never had an issue.  Did notice when dull...they will eat a fuel battery up fast.

Ya man idk, this was before I had a drill setup so I haven't tried it like that, but by hand it just does not want to cut. It has the powerpoint which I always felt was a hindrance trying to cut by hand, but when they became all the rage and I had to have one I didn't even know there was different versions. I keep saying next year I'm going to send it out to get sharpened and never do it.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 350 Mag on Mar 09, 2019, 06:30 AM
I have never tried a Nils

But my Finbore III is one of fastest augers around ...
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: river_scum on Mar 09, 2019, 11:18 AM
drilled well over 50 holes the last 2 days n nights.(8" ice)  some nasty ice with what felt like a couple layers or huge cracks or something.  it was catching and busting chunks down there big time!  it only cut out one time and that's the third cutout total since I have had it on the ice. 

im very happy with my drill.  if anyone is having issues id send it back.  I have bee very impressed with mine.  construction worker all my life and have handled many.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. OVERLOAD PROTECTION TEST. 32" OF ICE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Mar 20, 2019, 05:38 PM
So I finally pushed the Octane to see how it does in deep ice. Have to say I'm more than impressed.

Overload protection test. 32" of ice. How many holes till the drill cuts out??

Link to the footage:
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Mar 20, 2019, 07:18 PM
impressive!
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: DTro on Mar 21, 2019, 06:53 AM
Thanks for doing the vid. Quite the eye opener!


That settles it.  I guess I'll be buying a Nils next year.  It appears to be superior to anything else out there and the issues I've seen with my Ridgid drill this year are very likely related to the extra torque needed for the KDrill.   I still need a bigger hole than 8" though so I'll pick up an ice saw to connect holes, but this test made me a believer that I probably need to ditch the KDrill and it's not a drill issue it's an auger issue.



Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: PIKE FISHERMAN on Mar 21, 2019, 07:07 AM
Thanks for doing the vid. Quite the eye opener!


That settles it.  I guess I'll be buying a Nils next year.  It appears to be superior to anything else out there and the issues I've seen with my Ridgid drill this year are very likely related to the extra torque needed for the KDrill.   I still need a bigger hole than 8" though so I'll pick up an ice saw to connect holes, but this test made me a believer that I probably need to ditch the KDrill and it's not a drill issue it's an auger issue.
You won’t regret getting a Nils. Not knocking the KDrill by any means, but they do draw more torque. If I was fishing like you, I’d have a saw.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: 3300 on Mar 21, 2019, 09:54 AM
also, the k-drill is not a true 8" auger either.

Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: VTMatt on Mar 21, 2019, 10:58 AM
I will say that I slapped my 8" Lazer on my ridgid recently, and the thing is nuts....cuts faster than my 6" K-Drill.

Not really impressed by the quality of the K-Drill blades tbh.  I picked up the 6" back in December I think, and it looked like someone had tried to drill through a rock with the blades....I contacted the Gander I got it from and they sent new blades.  I sharpened the crapty ones and put them back on.  It cut like butter for a week and then went dull again....I figured I didn't sharpen them right, or they were just too banged up. 

Put the brand new blades on, and after 1 weekend I had the same issue.  Threw up a huge burr on the cutting edge of the blades.  If it keeps happening next year I'll be running a 6" Lazer instead.
Title: Re: RIDGID OCTANE 1300 IN/LB HAMMER DRILL. MID SEASON + 25” OF ICE UPDATE
Post by: NateD on Mar 21, 2019, 12:04 PM
4 seasons now on my 1st set of k drill blades, never sharpened. I used my k drill this year side by side with a nero and it felt like the nero was using way more torque. The nero is much faster cutting big chunks of ice, which imo uses more torque. K drill takes a lot more revolutions to cut a hole, but less torque, those revolutions are why it eats battery faster. That's why it's gonna heat up your drill cutting a bunch of holes in a row. I was cutting 5-6 holes each 10 feet apart through 24 inches no problem.

Thanks for doing the vid. Quite the eye opener!


That settles it.  I guess I'll be buying a Nils next year.  It appears to be superior to anything else out there and the issues I've seen with my Ridgid drill this year are very likely related to the extra torque needed for the KDrill.   I still need a bigger hole than 8" though so I'll pick up an ice saw to connect holes, but this test made me a believer that I probably need to ditch the KDrill and it's not a drill issue it's an auger issue.

If you are getting a saw you can use any auger, might as well get a 5 inch lazer or something similar.
Title: K-Drill
Post by: captainanalfin on Jul 26, 2019, 03:27 PM
I bought the two Kdrills.  The 6 and 8 inch drill.  I used the Dewalt 996.  Complete game changer.  Faster and quieter than my other gas augers.  If I need a 10” hole I’ll use my Eskimo z71.  It doesn’t drill a hole.  It’s got so much power the hole ice sheet spins.