Well, Beltzville is solid over 8 inches of black, we were averaging a hit/2 hits an hour. We had 5 people and tip up spread to beat the band. Seems slow but I have to tellya, they were all slammers. several 21-22 inch picks, and nice bass one in the 4- 5 lbs slot. Most bass 2 lbs. Stripers also getting wacked in 8-12 feet at preachers and other locations.