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Title: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: perchnut on Nov 18, 2015, 08:08 PM
So Ive done some good mods to my 2 man flip over.  I just ordered a pop up (otter) for when the ice isnt thick enough to drag my clam out there with the snowmobile, and I need some cover.  Or for when I have more than a couple of us out there who want to sit in a shelter......So are there any neat must haves for fishing in a hub?  Obviously a heater,,,,What other accessories are must have for the pop up.....
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: walley250 on Nov 18, 2015, 08:15 PM
I like my clam chairs.  They are compact and decent to sit in for most the day.  Hooks are nice for coats and other gear, and some lighting too.  The clam hub light looks nice but they want plenty of money for it.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: COLD-AS-ICE on Nov 18, 2015, 08:51 PM
I bought cheap led 12v lights and hooked up to a small battery. Had the lights attached to the bars at the ceiling. Had more light than I knew what to do with
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Post by: dairyman on Nov 18, 2015, 09:45 PM
where did you pick up the cheap led lights
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Westsloper on Nov 19, 2015, 12:37 PM
where did you pick up the cheap led lights

Amazon
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Nov 19, 2015, 12:56 PM
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Here is my setup I did a couple of days ago. I used LED light strips that I bought off of Amazon. They are 16 ft strips that I cut down to fit on the ceiling poles and are ran off of a vexilar 12v battery.  Hope this helps.  If you have any questions about it just email me.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Raquettedacker on Nov 19, 2015, 01:09 PM
Thats sweet....    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Nov 19, 2015, 02:10 PM
It works for me.  Hopefully it will give Perchnut some ideas.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: holehopper on Nov 19, 2015, 02:11 PM
Owen:  The only thing missing is a disco ball hanging in the middle!  :) 
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Nov 19, 2015, 02:18 PM
LOL, very true.  I can't wait until we get some hardwater so I can put it to good use!
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: B540glenn on Nov 19, 2015, 07:43 PM
I have a small battery operated (2 D-cell) fan to circulate the hot air from the heater.  It's quiet enough and moves enough air to help with the hot/cold spots. 
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: perchnut on Nov 28, 2015, 01:00 PM
I was thinking Owen might have a brass pole in there too somewhere!!  Thanks for the ideas.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Nov 28, 2015, 09:28 PM
No brass pole. I ran the wires along the seam and tied them up with fine wire.  The only thing that has any weight to this setup is the batteries that are in the baskets up on top.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Chris338378 on Nov 29, 2015, 12:58 AM
That looks great.
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Post by: DawntoDusk on Nov 29, 2015, 05:40 AM
really nice...good job
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Nov 29, 2015, 12:11 PM
Thanks everyone. Hope this helps Perchnut in tricking out hub style shanty's.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: chilly-willy on Nov 30, 2015, 02:06 AM
portable dvd player? got one for mine... I am talking the kind that straps to the back of car seats.. I made a adaptor to fit a vexilar battery so it runs off 12 volts.... mine has two screens just encase you bring your buddy along... be sides this your going to want lighting and some sort of shelf would be nice to put gear on like that calm hub shelf....   I use my hub in the fall threw spring till it warms up...  almost year round when fishing steel head and salmon from the piers.... that dvd player is nice to have on long trips....
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: DR.SPECKLER on Nov 30, 2015, 07:31 AM
not much of a trick but I got one of the folding clam tables for my hub.it was cheap and its nice for my bait, gloves, flasher or whatever I don't want sitting on the ice.doesnt weigh anything and folds up in a little bag.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: mukluk on Dec 29, 2015, 10:12 PM
Thanks for the pics Owen did the same to my 949I tonight. Love the amount of light and no shadows. Now working on my flip over power box.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Johnsonarcher on Dec 30, 2015, 09:32 AM
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Here is my setup I did a couple of days ago. I used LED light strips that I bought off of Amazon. They are 16 ft strips that I cut down to fit on the ceiling poles and are ran off of a vexilar 12v battery.  Hope this helps.  If you have any questions about it just email me.

Very awesome, I think I am going to have to do that to mine.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: 32footsteps on Dec 30, 2015, 02:38 PM
I use those interlocking foam exercise mats as a floor.  It helps to keep things warm and the biggest bonus is that without a floor in a hub footing can be a bit tricky once you start heating them up. 

Mine is not insulated right from the factory but I did custom cut some reflectix that can be stuffed in between the fabric and the braces for extremely cold days.  I usually won't even bring that stuff out until it's at least -10.  When I do I won't cover all of the walls with it but I will stuff some behind my heater and in the ceiling.  When fishing at night you won't need much light at all to see things because it bounces off of the reflectix pretty well. 

New for this year I modified the rear of my smitty sled so it can be slid underneath a wall of my hub.  I don't have a pic of it so bear with me.  Imagine a smitty sled...on the rear cross member I built it up vertically so that my otter sled can fit in between the uprights.  On top of the uprights is a box/shelf where I can put a radio, battery, gloves, etc.  Below that shelf and at the same level as the top of the original smitty I have a piece of plywood on a hinge which flips down as an electronics shelf or I can put my heater there if I wanted....or I can flip that board up, drill another hole and jig from the center of the hub.  Towards the top of the uprights I have two "wings" on each side that fold up when in transport or if I want to get them out of the way when they are in the hub.  On each of these wings I have a rattle reel.  When deployed I can drop lines off of these rattle reels towards each edge of my hub....or deploy one rattle reel or none.  It depends on the mood I'm in and what I'm targeting.  Back to the uprights....on one upright I have a boat cleat which can be used to set my camera depth.  Just wrap my camera cable through the cleat and the depth is set. On the other upright I have a bottle opener...well, because you have to have one along.  On both uprights I have a ladder hook to coincide with ladder hooks running off of my front cross member.  When in transport I put my hub on one side and my auger on the other freeing the sled up to carry other gear.  That top box/shelf I mentioned is high enough where I can fit a tall 6 gallon bucket underneath it when that bucket is in the otter sled. 

I haven't had a chance to use this thing yet because of a lack of ice.  In theory I think it should be pretty slick and I wanted a way to run rattle reels inside of my hub.  Unfortunately in the few months since I built this thing I've come up with other ideas that might be a bit more efficient so it might be getting an overhaul at some point in the near future.   
   
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Dec 31, 2015, 10:25 AM
Johnsonarcher:
It only took me a few hours to set this up.  Most of the time was brainstorming on how I wanted to do it.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: trex59 on Jan 25, 2016, 12:08 PM
luckowen, I was doing a search on hub lighting and came across this subject.  Have you been out on the ice yet with your hub?  I was wondering how your lighting worked out after its been folded up. I have the 949i and I can attest that the hardest part is fiquring out what you want to do!!
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Jan 26, 2016, 11:53 AM
trex59,
I have used my hut for about a month non-stop and it works great!  I have only had to charge the batteries up once so far.  The lighting is excellent and I ran the lights from the side to the top so it didn't interfere with the top hub damaging any wires.  So, to your question about if being folded up, there isn't any problems with that, other than the companies don't make the bags a little bigger...lol
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Uncle Al on Jan 28, 2016, 07:29 AM
luckyowen98, I bought some led strip lights and clips for the ends to power them, these clips are a pita to attach to the strips, most just tear the strip and don't really line up with the small tabs. How do you get power to your strips? Thanks................ .......al
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Feb 01, 2016, 08:53 PM
Uncle al. I use two small vexilar style batteries that I store up in the mesh baskets on top of the hut. I was beating my head trying to figure out how to get power to them without running wires to the ground and that was my only solution.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Uncle Al on Feb 02, 2016, 07:07 AM
thanks owen, I understand the battery part, but hooking the LED's to the battery is where I'm having trouble, I bought clips that the LED'S are supposed to"clip" into but they just tear the strip, and don't really make contact with the strip, How do you hook the strip to the battery?
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Feb 02, 2016, 10:13 AM
Oh OK, I got these male/female hookups. They look like the kind that works on the vexilar charger. I just clipped off the two wires and ran the pos/neg to the respective terminals on the batteries.  I will get pics of the battery and what it looks like up here today. The other end I had to solder onto the strip itself and used electrical tape to cover the end up. 
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Post by: Uncle Al on Feb 02, 2016, 11:35 AM
K thanks, I'll get a pic of what I have too
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Post by: Uncle Al on Feb 04, 2016, 11:54 AM
Sorry about the poor pic but you can get the idea, the strip slides under the two contacts, and the other end goes to the battery.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Feb 08, 2016, 11:01 AM
Check these out.

http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=6881

http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=6880
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Uncle Al on Feb 09, 2016, 07:37 AM
Thanks for the links. I've been struggling with mine, and am ready to toss them in the woodburner.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: sdatver on Feb 10, 2016, 08:47 AM
Thanks for the links. I've been struggling with mine, and am ready to toss them in the woodburner.


I put led lights in my hub shelter pretty much copying luckyowen's design and even emailed him and got some further advice.  I used the clips you have pictured.  I cut the rubber off of the last 1/8" of the strip and slid that connecter on to the strip.  Then when I attached the lights to the poles I used a generous amount of electrical tape around the light strip and connector and put it on pretty tight.  With the tape on both keeping them in place I haven't had any problems. Maybe this will help.



Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Feb 17, 2016, 09:20 AM
sdatver

Awesome man...Hope to see some pics up here soon!  I'm glad this is taking off lol.  There isn't much to do to trick out a hub shelter and this is the one thing I found to do.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: sdatver on Feb 17, 2016, 04:08 PM
sdatver

Awesome man...Hope to see some pics up here soon!  I'm glad this is taking off lol.  There isn't much to do to trick out a hub shelter and this is the one thing I found to do.

Thanks for your guidance on this one.  I changed things up a bit and used some power cords that I had laying around to connect them in the middle and then in one corner I put a 2 pin connecter and then made a little jumper harness to go from the power box up to the corner when I need the lights.  Didn't have the connector yet when I took the pictures and was using some jumper wires with alligator clips to see if everything worked.


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Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Luckyowen98 on Feb 19, 2016, 08:25 AM
Nice man!
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Mkroulik on Jan 16, 2018, 04:47 AM
Sorry to bring up a dead thread but does anyone know how lucky Owen connectected the LED strips to each other?  It looks like he has all the strips connected in the center of the ceiling. I am hoping to do the same. Then I figured I could run wiring down on of the poles to connect a battery.  And help would be appreciated.

Mike
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: sdatver on Jan 17, 2018, 04:09 PM
Sorry to bring up a dead thread but does anyone know how lucky Owen connectected the LED strips to each other?  It looks like he has all the strips connected in the center of the ceiling. I am hoping to do the same. Then I figured I could run wiring down on of the poles to connect a battery.  And help would be appreciated.

Mike

I used some of the stretchy cigarette lighter cords o got on Amazon. Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017GBBZVI/ref=mp_s_a_1_25?ie=UTF8&qid=1516226877&sr=8-25&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=cigarette+lighter+power+supply
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Post by: Mkroulik on Jan 17, 2018, 04:54 PM
Thanks, I think I came up with an option. I am going to start them both in the same corner, and make two 7s. The first one will go across the side then across the diagonal roof, the second will go across the other diagonal roof the. Across the other side, which will make like an hour glass pattern, and both ends at the same point.

Mike
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: 4x4Dad on Feb 07, 2018, 07:59 AM
This is just a curiosity question . I see the lights are white ? Did you consider Red to preserve your night vision when fishing at night ? Or am I just over thinking the lighting ?
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Mkroulik on Feb 07, 2018, 01:32 PM
I did think about getting the RGB ones just for the heck of it, but for me it just seemed unnecessary. When I am using them I want it as bright as possible in there. I really would only go outside to pack up and leave so the night vision adjusts quick enough for me.

Mike
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Post by: 4x4Dad on Feb 07, 2018, 02:19 PM
I understand . It really does look good being up in the roof instead of a lantern shining in your eyes . With those many LEDs , how long does your battery last ? Seems like a lot of amp draw .
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Mkroulik on Feb 07, 2018, 02:34 PM
I’m not sure. I’m building a battery box so I’ll let you know.

Mike
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: Warren_G on Feb 08, 2018, 08:33 AM
Just weighing in on the wiring questions, I would avoid using the clips to attach wire to the LED strips, and solder to them instead. I can see the clip being the first cause of failure. As well, if you can solder wires to the LED strips, then attach them to the hub poles with clear tape over the strip and the wire, this should be very durable, and ensure that you dont have wires coming off from opening and closing your hub.
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Post by: RyanW on Feb 08, 2018, 09:04 AM
Just weighing in on the wiring questions, I would avoid using the clips to attach wire to the LED strips, and solder to them instead. I can see the clip being the first cause of failure. As well, if you can solder wires to the LED strips, then attach them to the hub poles with clear tape over the strip and the wire, this should be very durable, and ensure that you dont have wires coming off from opening and closing your hub.

For a hub shack application, soldering is a must. I don’t see how anyone gets these LED strips to function properly with just the clips. I just put some in my hub. I cut the clips off of the barrel jack connectors and soldered directly to the strip then put some heat-shrink over the connection. Then I daisy chained 3 strips together using and old guitar pedal power supply daisy chain. It is important to make sure you don’t have cords extending past the end of your torn-down hub, just for durability and weather resistance sake. I had to shorten my strips to accomadate that. I used electrical tape and zip ties to secure the strips to the ceiling poles but I think I’m going to get some of those Velcro straps used for cable management so my lights can be modular.


For those who are nervous or don’t know, soldering basic things like this is super easy. I got a soldering iron last Christmas and this was the first thing I ever soldered. It was super easy and creates a much much better connection than any clip.
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: 4x4Dad on Feb 08, 2018, 10:03 AM
JMHO , but I would think the Velcro is a better application than tape , because if movement is required during fold up or fold down , the Velcro will move easier than tape . Hopefully limiting any damage to the lights .
Title: Re: Tricking your pop up hub???
Post by: RyanW on Feb 08, 2018, 10:36 AM
That was my exact thought aswell and why I didn’t use a whole bunch of electrical tape. The flexing of the poles will put too much stress on the strips and the strips need a little bit of free movement to counteract the flexing. Zip ties work great but I don’t want to go through a billion of them. I plan on using the same strips for my tent come camping season and using zip ties would just be a waste.
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Post by: 4x4Dad on Feb 08, 2018, 11:04 AM
Funny you mentioning summer camping . I was thinking the same thing . Only early spring or early fall . This is one of the reasons I bought a Eskimo shelter . The windows are removable . A guy  already had a seamstress make up a stove jack panel out of welding blanket ( Harbor Freight has them ) that can be velcro'd into the hole of the window . Then he made a tripod type support for the stove pipe about 5 ft. out so you don't get sparks landing on your roof . This way you can operate a small wood stove if you like . I can't stand sleeping in my own sweat in a tent in the summer . Unless of course someone has an idea for portable air conditioning !

Now , on the subject of using our shelters when rain is a possibility , are any shelters ( other than the Polar Bird ) actually waterproof ? If not , I was thinking a 10x10 pop-up canopy over the roof would probably work . Or just bunji a 10x12 tarp over the roof down to the wind strap loops ? A tarp would also be better protection from campfire or stove fire sparks .