Author Topic: Tip up spools (Read 3541 times)

winnisquam guy · « **on:** Jan 23, 2020, 06:13 PM »

Hi all. Check out Tim Kimball. You'll find him on Facebook . He is making cnc machines aluminum tipup spools. 23 bucks

Lv2hunt · « **Reply #1 on:** Jan 23, 2020, 07:41 PM »

Those are some nice looking spools

esox_xtm · « **Reply #2 on:** Jan 23, 2020, 07:54 PM »

Those are killer! Even if they don't fit what I use. Very nice work and I'd say reasonably priced.

Arctic Addict · « **Reply #3 on:** Jan 23, 2020, 08:38 PM »

Man, thanks for heads up. I am building a set of tip-ups and will definitely check him out.

HuntnFish603 · « **Reply #4 on:** Jan 23, 2020, 09:35 PM »

Nice product. They look way better than most aluminum ones out there now. Hard to find good ones that don't get whacked out of balance, then have a slight wobble.
I'm very picky about what reels I use, for that reason alone. The slightest wobble can make all the difference, might as well throw the trap back in the truck. Alot are junk these days and dont stay "true" for the Long haul. Some of the new poly reels seem to hold up ok, but it's still plastic.
2 of my older sets of 40ups still have old-school reels that have stood the test of time. Can't get em anymore though. So I'm constantly in search of that perfect reel in case I ever need to replace some of those, or when I retrofit the newer sets I obtain from time to time.
These CNC milled aluminum look like a great new product to try! Thanks for sharing. Although, I can't find any contact info when I search for him....?

Roccus · « **Reply #5 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 07:36 AM »

Quote from: HuntnFish603 on Jan 23, 2020, 09:35 PM

Nice product. They look way better than most aluminum ones out there now. Hard to find good ones that don't get whacked out of balance, then have a slight wobble.
I'm very picky about what reels I use, for that reason alone. The slightest wobble can make all the difference, might as well throw the trap back in the truck. Alot are junk these days and dont stay "true" for the Long haul. Some of the new poly reels seem to hold up ok, but it's still plastic.
2 of my older sets of 40ups still have old-school reels that have stood the test of time. Can't get em anymore though. So I'm constantly in search of that perfect reel in case I ever need to replace some of those, or when I retrofit the newer sets I obtain from time to time.
These CNC milled aluminum look like a great new product to try! Thanks for sharing. Although, I can't find any contact info when I search for him....?

At some point this winter we will get together and fish, I'll let you examine one of my tip.ups up close with the 4" plastic spool.. your opinion will be changed forever.

HuntnFish603 · « **Reply #6 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 07:56 AM »

Quote from: Roccus on Jan 24, 2020, 07:36 AM

At some point this winter we will get together and fish, I'll let you examine one of my tip.ups up close with the 4" plastic spool.. your opinion will be changed forever.

Thanks. I'd like that Joe. I haven't made it over to your lake this year yet. But I will soon. Meant to bump into you there last year but I was fishing the other side.
I do have a few traps with the heritage 4" poly spool on them. They're growing on me..lol Seem durable and smooth. but I think I need to retrofit with bigger spool bolt and bushing since I get slight play.
But yes I'd like to check yours out up close. I've always wanted to build some of my own that resemble the 40 up.

Roccus · « **Reply #7 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 08:09 AM »

Quote from: HuntnFish603 on Jan 24, 2020, 07:56 AM

Thanks. I'd like that Joe. I haven't made it over to your lake this year yet. But I will soon. Meant to bump into you there last year but I was fishing the other side.
I do have a few traps with the heritage 4" poly spool on them. They're growing on me..lol Seem durable and smooth. but I think I need to retrofit with bigger spool bolt and bushing since I get slight play.
But yes I'd like to check yours out up close. I've always wanted to build some of my own that resemble the 40 up.

My spools are from HT. Tackle, I did modification of them to make the trigger..
Maybe we can do it when we get M M and CD out there, and if Wanes a good boy well invite him

Back on topic, those aluminum spools are nice... I almost made some from titanium ( I work in a machine shops )
.the heavier the spool, the better it turns..

HuntnFish603 · « **Reply #8 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 11:36 AM »

Quote from: Roccus on Jan 24, 2020, 08:09 AM

My spools are from HT. Tackle, I did modification of them to make the trigger..
Maybe we can do it when we get M M and CD out there, and if Wanes a good boy well invite him

Yep. I'd love that. Just let me know.

Quote from: Roccus on Jan 24, 2020, 08:09 AM

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Back on topic, those aluminum spools are nice... I almost made some from titanium ( I work in a machine shops )
.the heavier the spool, the better it turns..

I find that true as well. I'd be curious to see the weight of the above posted spools.

Roccus · « **Reply #9 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 11:58 AM »

The biggest issue with all tip up spools is the installation of the shaft, some use a pin into the wood, others through bolt, but Thier
issue comes when repeated soaking and drying of the wood, loosens the spool, most use 3/16 or # 10 hardware... I use a stainless insert that is internally threaded 1/4 -20.. the insert has a coarse exterior thread that inserts into the wood, I apply epoxy to this, the axel, is 1/ 4 - 20 and is threaded in the opposite side of the spool,then a custom nylon spacer is installed followed by a stainless lock nut... the axel can never loosen, and if you remove the spool (held on by a locking wing nut
Nut) you can nevet loose the spacer and the axel stays put and is tight, by using 1/4-20 I can drill the plastic spools with a number drill for a perfect , non wobbly fit,but the spools spin like they are on bearings, and being 4" don't seem to be prone to back lash, the larger size makes an easy tripping spool,the shear weight of 800 feet of dacron acts like a fly wheel and makes for a smooth pay out.

jibbs · « **Reply #10 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 12:15 PM »

I have switched to heritage plastic spools but love these ..

Roccus · « **Reply #11 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 12:40 PM »

Quote from: jibbs on Jan 24, 2020, 12:15 PM

I have switched to heritage plastic spools but love these ..

Pretty sharp looking for sure

flagup! · « **Reply #12 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 12:45 PM »

They are pretty. Wonder weight wise how they would be? Will the fish feel it?

HuntnFish603 · « **Reply #13 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 12:58 PM »

Joe, that's an awesome idea putting an actual hollow insert into the wood shaft. Never thought of that.
I bet it makes for easy change out of spools too, instead of unthreading the bolt out of the wood like you said.

Roccus · « **Reply #14 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 01:03 PM »

Quote from: HuntnFish603 on Jan 24, 2020, 12:58 PM

Joe, that's an awesome idea putting an actual hollow insert into the wood shaft. Never thought of that.
I bet it makes for easy change out of spools too, instead of unthreading the bolt out of the wood like you said.

I carry spare spools, it's as easy as winding off a wing nut, remove the spool, put on the new ( untangled spool or one with a different leader) and winding on the wing nut, they are self locking but can be use many time before they loose their self locking qualities.. it sure come in hand when the wind is cranking and that pint sized yellow takes just enough line to some how cause a big tangle..I carry a few spare wing nuts in case I drop one...I had some pictures of the set up, i'll try and find them

Roccus · « **Reply #15 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 01:05 PM »

Quote from: flagup! on Jan 24, 2020, 12:45 PM

They are pretty. Wonder weight wise how they would be? Will the fish feel it?

the weight works in your favor, once moving, the weight carries the momentum.. Newtons third law...the initial start is more dependent on the diameter than the actual weight, another good reason to keep your spools full. it takes less effort to turn a full one than it does one that is half filled.

zwiggles · « **Reply #16 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 02:23 PM »

Quote from: Roccus on Jan 24, 2020, 01:05 PM

the weight works in your favor, once moving, the weight carries the momentum.. Newtons third law...the initial start is more dependent on the diameter than the actual weight, another good reason to keep your spools full. it takes less effort to turn a full one than it does one that is half filled.

This.

I filled up a few, less than full spools last year on Roccus’ recommendation, and the difference in “starting” the spool was noticeably improved.

johnnh · « **Reply #17 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 03:14 PM »

When I was a young lineman early in my career, we spent endless hours running new electrical wire/cable up along the Hudson river in new york.

You may ask what does that have to do with a tip up spool.
It's the same principle. A full reel of cable was much easier to pull compared to a 1/2 reel. It's all about velocity.

A similar spool or reel reaction is a bait caster. Newer reels have static friction brakes and of course we all use the thumb method.
It's much easier to make longer casts with a full reel.

Coffin Dodger · « **Reply #18 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 04:19 PM »

Quote from: Roccus on Jan 24, 2020, 11:58 AM

The biggest issue with all tip up spools is the installation of the shaft, some use a pin into the wood, others through bolt, but Thier
issue comes when repeated soaking and drying of the wood, loosens the spool, most use 3/16 or # 10 hardware... I use a stainless insert that is internally threaded 1/4 -20.. the insert has a coarse exterior thread that inserts into the wood, I apply epoxy to this, the axel, is 1/ 4 - 20 and is threaded in the opposite side of the spool,then a custom nylon spacer is installed followed by a stainless lock nut... the axel can never loosen, and if you remove the spool (held on by a locking wing nut
Nut) you can nevet loose the spacer and the axel stays put and is tight, by using 1/4-20 I can drill the plastic spools with a number drill for a perfect , non wobbly fit,but the spools spin like they are on bearings, and being 4" don't seem to be prone to back lash, the larger size makes an easy tripping spool,the shear weight of 800 feet of dacron acts like a fly wheel and makes for a smooth pay out.

Clever idea with the inserts, Joe. The above and your tips below, on arbors, bigger and full spools and all, should be studied by all serious anglers. Especially those who target finicky trout.
Every advantage can help!

meatandmetal · « **Reply #19 on:** Jan 24, 2020, 06:51 PM »

Quote from: Roccus on Jan 24, 2020, 08:09 AM

My spools are from HT. Tackle, I did modification of them to make the trigger..
Maybe we can do it when we get M M and CD out there, and if Wanes a good boy well invite him

Back on topic, those aluminum spools are nice... I almost made some from titanium ( I work in a machine shops )
.the heavier the spool, the better it turns..

It's good having Wayne there with us old guys you will never know when we will need medical attention.