MyFishFinder.com Just like iceshanty but warmer
There will always be some ready early, I had a few females dropping eggs once on the ice more than a week ago. Water temps still too cold, 1 or 2 thaws don't help temps that much, only start to signal to them to move in closer. Occasionally they will start to spawn under the ice, but that's just a few, each species has the early birds that can't wait.
Iam surprized it dosent seem to me anyway, that the fish are moving into there spawn areas yet
well at least where i have been
Not only have perch ( also crappie) been known to spawn more than one time per year. But different fish drop at different times. Some females I've been catching the past couple weeks have been REAL lose, if not oozing row, and many are still REAL tight! Not all the fish spawn at the same time. And water temps really have nothing to do with it, it's all just a cycle. lets just say the water was never going to get very warm again, do you really think the fish would stop reproducing? It's just coincidence you happen to notice water temps when the fish usually spawn, cause it's usually around the same time each year, and the water temps are about the same at that time of year as well...
Not only have perch ( also crappie) been known to spawn more than one time per year. But different fish drop at different times.Amazing isn't it ! Some females I've been catching the past couple weeks have been REAL lose, if not oozing row, They're still nowhere near spawing. The oozing you're seeing is caused by stress that the fish suffer from being caught. Those little bubbles of eggs that the females seem to be squirting out are not ready to be dropped as per the regular spawn. and many are still REAL tight! Only because they started their egg development later in the season based on where those fish were (water temperature) Not all the fish spawn at the same time. And water temps really have nothing to do with it, it's all just a cycle. OK...this is where I have to say YOU'RE DEAD WRONG ! lets just say the water was never going to get very warm again, do you really think the fish would stop reproducing? Absolutely ! That's why in many far northern lakes, there are no warm water species such as perch ! It's just coincidence you happen to notice water temps when the fish usually spawn, cause it's usually around the same time each year, and the water temps are about the same at that time of year as well... Can you give us a hint at what you've been drinking today ? C'mon John. These comments you've made are the least accurate that I've ever seen you post and I totally respect your abilities on the ice and open water. I believe it's time for you to take a little course in aquaculture ! I did years ago. The whole perch spawn (as all other fish) is water temperature related ! It's not a coincidence that perch just happen to be spawning around the same time each year. EVERYTHING pertaining to the perch spawn is in coordination with water temperature !
i agree with you about the water temp and spawn,i believe that the number of hours of day light have more of an effect the temps
I guess I agree with both of you. The increasing daylight is what "triggers" the fish to prespawn feed and head towards the spawning grounds.Not true ! Believe me...It's water temperature ! In controlled environments (Aquaculture) perch spawn no matter what the light conditions are. If kept totally dark, they'll still spawn when the water temps are between 45 and the low 50 degree mark . If kept in well lit areas, the water temp is what triggers them to spawn. Doesn't matter how many hours of daylight there are. They're not mammals. To put a twist on it, you could say that coincidentally, the hours of daylight are about the same each year when the water temps are between 45 and 53 degrees :^) Since the fish are cold blooded (that means they take on the temperature of the water they are swimming in), it takes some warmer water (different temps for every species of fish) to"loosen" up the eggs and sperm. Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it....
not saying whos right or wrong cause i dont know, i always thought it was water temp, but then last yr kings were in the SR in aug and that water was like bath water, so i didnt understand that
There's a HUGE difference between cold water species (Salmon, trout etc) and warm water species (perch, walleyes pike bass, panfish) Although the cooler waters will trigger salmon to move into the estuaries and rivers, it's the 3 year cycle that commands their desire and need to spawn !
well i know the 3 yr cycle, just thought water temp is what keyed them into moving closer to shore
Water temp is part of the spawning criteria for salmon but it's not THE main factor as it is with perch and other warm water species !
Mission accomplished!!! Thanks Gamma!! Your WAY to easy, AND predictable!! Kinda like a perch spawn!! I was going to end my rebuttal with a....Gamma?...What do you think? But figured it would just be more fun this way! And I was correct!!!!
well with the salmon this year did have to do with the water temps cuz the water temps on the lake this year were crazy we had one wee kwhen the surface temp was 40 degress and down 100 ft it was 75 ... then a week later the surface temp was 75 and you had to go out to 500 ft just to find that 40 degree temp
Even in animals, people think the cold is what makes buck rut, its not all about how much light is in the day
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